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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] work in ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression''. The other parts are ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagicPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].

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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] look like they work this way in ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression''. The other parts are ''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression'' however if you dig deeper it's really a combination of ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagicPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].
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* {{Animorphs}} used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day. Also, the series' treatment of [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone psychic phenomena]], and of the question of dolphin and whale intelligence, seems to be based on this trope.

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* {{Animorphs}} ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day. Also, the series' treatment of [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone psychic phenomena]], and of the question of dolphin and whale intelligence, seems to be based on this trope.
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* ''{{The X-Files}}'' uses the premises of innumerable fringe and obsolete theories as the premises of episodes and the show's sprawling MythologyArc. A partial list:

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* ''{{The X-Files}}'' uses the premises of innumerable fringe and obsolete theories as the premises of episodes and the show's sprawling MythologyArc.MythArc. A partial list:
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* A big part of the [[MadScientist Sons of Ether]] brand in MageTheAscension is science that go beyond conventional ideas of the "possible".

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* A big part of the [[MadScientist Sons of Ether]] brand in MageTheAscension ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' is science that go beyond conventional ideas of the "possible".
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* "[[SteamPunk Gaslamp fantasy]]" ''GirlGenius'' is all about this, but then, at least one character states that a strong spark is actually a RealityWarper.

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* "[[SteamPunk Gaslamp fantasy]]" ''GirlGenius'' ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' is all about this, but then, at least one character states that a strong spark is actually a RealityWarper.
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* Several short works by Hugo-winner Ted Chiang follow this formula, including one in which the tower of babel does in fact reach the sky (Tower of Babylon), and another exploring the ultimate consequences in a world where the theory of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism preformation]] is accurate (Seventy-Two Letters).

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* Several short works by Hugo-winner Ted Chiang follow this formula, including one in which the tower of babel does in fact reach the sky (Tower of Babylon), and another exploring the ultimate consequences in a world where the theory of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism preformation]] preformationist]] hypothesis is accurate (Seventy-Two Letters).
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* Many short works by Hugo-winner Ted Chiang follow this trend, including one in which the tower of babel does in fact reach the sky (Tower of Babylon), and another exploring the ultimate consequences in a world where the theory of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism preformation]] is accurate (Seventy-Two Letters).

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* Many Several short works by Hugo-winner Ted Chiang follow this trend, formula, including one in which the tower of babel does in fact reach the sky (Tower of Babylon), and another exploring the ultimate consequences in a world where the theory of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism preformation]] is accurate (Seventy-Two Letters).
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* Many short works by Hugo-winner Ted Chiang follow this trend, including one in which the tower of babel does in fact reach the sky (Tower of Babylon), and another exploring the ultimate consequences in a world where the theory of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preformationism preformation]] is accurate (Seventy-Two Letters).
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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] work in GeniusTheTransgression. The other parts are ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagicPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].

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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] work in GeniusTheTransgression.''TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression''. The other parts are ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagicPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].
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** It's also how [[EldritchLocation Bardos]] work. A theory of the universe is proven to be untrue? Then it simply spins off into an alternate dimension where it is. Certain Bardos include a model of the universe where the planets are crystal spheres pushed through seas of phlogiston by gigantic archangels, a dystopia that demonstrates both the failures and successes of Soviet totalitarianism, a [[JohnCarterOfMars Barsoom]]-like vision of Mars that came into existence when the Viking rover pictures came back, and the Hollow Earth, which is populated by both every sort of prehistoric creatures and Nazis.
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* {{Animorphs}} used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day. Also, the series' treatment of [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone psychic pheomena]], and of the question of dolphin and whale intelligence, seems to be based on this trope.

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* {{Animorphs}} used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day. Also, the series' treatment of [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone psychic pheomena]], phenomena]], and of the question of dolphin and whale intelligence, seems to be based on this trope.
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** This is also one of the noted problems of Lemurians and their [[{{Splat}} Brahmins]]. A Genius can easily cite any scientific theory, bunkum or backed-up, for why their device works, but the members of the Peerage have ''some'' understanding that what they're doing is not quite science. The Lemurians, on the other hand, believe that something went wrong with the standing model of the universe, and want to try to "fix it" to support their theories.
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The title of this trope is somewhat inaccurate. A Theory is actually something that has been proven and has been comprehensively explained. A Law is something that has been proven but has not been explained. This Trope refers to Hypotheses, predictions which are then tested to become Laws or be invalidated.
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** "Jersey Devil," "Quagmire," "Detour," and many others - Cryptids

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** "Jersey Devil," "JerseyDevil," "Quagmire," "Detour," and many others - Cryptids
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* ''{{The X-Files}}'' is perhaps the MostTriumphantExample of this trope, using the premises of innumerable fringe and obsolete theories as the premises of episodes and the show's sprawling MythologyArc. A partial list:

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* ''{{The X-Files}}'' is perhaps the MostTriumphantExample of this trope, using uses the premises of innumerable fringe and obsolete theories as the premises of episodes and the show's sprawling MythologyArc. A partial list:
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* A big part of the [[MadScientist Sons of Ether]] brand in [[MageTheAscension]] is science that go beyond conventional ideas of the "possible".

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* A big part of the [[MadScientist Sons of Ether]] brand in [[MageTheAscension]] MageTheAscension is science that go beyond conventional ideas of the "possible".
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** Somewhat ironic in that this theory was debunked slightly less than 200 years before the 1930s.
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The scientific counterpart of AllMythsAreTrue, this is when long-obsolete, fringe, or disproven scientific theories are considered true for the purposes of either RuleOfCool or ArtMajorTechnology. Examples should be distinguished from ScienceMarchesOn, as in this trope's case the use of dodgy science is quite deliberate. This is sometimes a supertrope of AncientAstronauts, LamarckWasRight, GeneticMemory, PsychicDreamsForEveryone and many other tropes found right here on this wiki, and arguably underpins most modern uses of alchemy in SpeculativeFiction. It's also rampant in SteamPunk, which is often set universes where, for example, the theory of the aether is true.

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The scientific counterpart of AllMythsAreTrue, this is when long-obsolete, fringe, or disproven scientific theories are considered true for the purposes of either RuleOfCool or ArtMajorTechnology.[[ArtMajorPhysics Art Major Technology]]. Examples should be distinguished from ScienceMarchesOn, as in this trope's case the use of dodgy science is quite deliberate. This is sometimes a supertrope of AncientAstronauts, LamarckWasRight, GeneticMemory, PsychicDreamsForEveryone and many other tropes found right here on this wiki, and arguably underpins most modern uses of alchemy in SpeculativeFiction. It's also rampant in SteamPunk, which is often set in universes where, for example, the theory of the aether is true.

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* StationeryVoyagers was inspired in part by theories about a universal wall, that the universe is shaped like an inverted onion, that misplaced blue shifts in certain cosmos that conflict with universal expansion indicate a galaxy "bouncing off the wall," and theological hypotheses of Heaven and Hell as AnotherDimension. It runs ape wild with these ideas.
** But the concept of spaceships having pseudo-gravity generators still ''[[AvertedTrope eludes]]'' the premise, and FasterThanLightTravel is outright rejected for all non-supernatural beings.
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** Not to mention the whole "the world is flat" thing, y'know?
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** "Unruhe" - Spirit photography.
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* ''Other Songs'', a [[NoExportForYou not-yet-translated]] novel by Polish author Jacek Dukaj, is set on alternate Earth where Aristotle was right.[[hottip:_:Well, not ''fully'' right; let's say as much as Newton was right in our world.]]
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* In ''{{Sliders}}'', the existence of the Kromaggs (humanoid creatures that evolved instead of ''Homo sapiens'' in various parallel universes) is ascribed to "Killer Ape Theory," which was a theory held by many 19th century naturalists about early ''human'' evolution. Notable in that in the real world, Killer Ape Theory tried (very inadequately) to explain the divergence between humans and the other apes, in the show the theory was appropriated to explain the divergence between Homo sapiens and Kromaggs from a common stock. [[DarthWiki/WallBanger And guess where the name "Kromagg" comes from?]]

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* In ''{{Sliders}}'', the existence of the Kromaggs (humanoid creatures that evolved instead of ''Homo sapiens'' in various parallel universes) is ascribed to "Killer Ape Theory," which was a theory held by many 19th century naturalists about early ''human'' evolution. Notable in that in the real world, Killer Ape Theory tried (very inadequately) to explain the divergence between humans and the other apes, in the show the theory was appropriated to explain the divergence between Homo sapiens and Kromaggs from a common stock. [[DarthWiki/WallBanger And guess where the name "Kromagg" comes from?]]
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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] work in GeniusTheTransgression. The other parts are ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagickPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].

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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] work in GeniusTheTransgression. The other parts are ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagickPoweredPseudoscience [[MagicPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].
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* This is the basis of the ''{{GURPS}}'' supplement "Fantasy Tech". Everything from the the popular belief that ancient armor was ridiculously heavy to the [[LittleKnownFacts scientific fact]] that the sun exerts a strong natural attraction on dew, so if you fill bottles with dew during the night you will rise upward during the day.



* The ''{{Fallout}}'' series

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* The ''{{Fallout}}'' series
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The trope comes in one of two flavors: Obsolete science may be used to evoke associations with the past in a manner resembling ZeerustCanon; alternately, fringe or obsolete science may be used to evoke the notion that all manner of far out ideas are really true in this particular fictional universe. More generally, it covers fringe or obsolete scientific concepts that are just part of a story's premise and aren't used to evoke anything.

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The trope comes in one of two flavors: Obsolete science may be used to evoke associations with the past in a manner resembling ZeerustCanon; alternately, fringe or obsolete science may be used to evoke the notion that all manner of far out ideas are really true in this particular fictional universe. More generally, it covers fringe or obsolete scientific concepts that are just part of a story's premise and aren't used to evoke anything.
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* ''[[TheXFiles The X-Files]]'' is perhaps the MostTriumphantExample of this trope, using the premises of innumerable fringe and obsolete theories as the premises of episodes and the show's sprawling MythologyArc. A partial list:

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* ''[[TheXFiles The X-Files]]'' ''{{The X-Files}}'' is perhaps the MostTriumphantExample of this trope, using the premises of innumerable fringe and obsolete theories as the premises of episodes and the show's sprawling MythologyArc. A partial list:



** "Humbug" - [[spoiler: Sentient]] fetus in fetu.

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** "Humbug" - [[spoiler: Sentient]] fetus in fetu.fetus.



** The show also used most of UFO lore, especially the Roswell and [[TheGrays Gray aliens]] theories.

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** The show also used most of UFO lore, especially the Roswell and [[TheGrays Gray [[TheGreys Grey aliens]] theories.



* Ditto the short-lived series ''DarkSkies'', based on UFOlogy and other 1960s ConspiracyTheory lore.
* In ''{{Sliders}}'', the existence of the Kromaggs (humanoid creatures that evolved instead of ''Homo sapiens'' in various parallel universes) is ascribed to "Killer Ape Theory," which was a theory held by many 19th century naturalists about early ''human'' evolution. Notable in that in the real world, Killer Ape Theory tried (very inadequately) to explain the divergence between humans and the other apes, in the show the theory was appropriated to explain the divergence between Homo sapiens and Kromaggs from a common stock. [[WallBanger And guess where the name "Kromagg" comes from?]]

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* Ditto the short-lived series ''DarkSkies'', based on UFOlogy [=UFOlogy=] and other 1960s ConspiracyTheory lore.
* In ''{{Sliders}}'', the existence of the Kromaggs (humanoid creatures that evolved instead of ''Homo sapiens'' in various parallel universes) is ascribed to "Killer Ape Theory," which was a theory held by many 19th century naturalists about early ''human'' evolution. Notable in that in the real world, Killer Ape Theory tried (very inadequately) to explain the divergence between humans and the other apes, in the show the theory was appropriated to explain the divergence between Homo sapiens and Kromaggs from a common stock. [[WallBanger [[DarthWiki/WallBanger And guess where the name "Kromagg" comes from?]]



* The Fallout series

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* That´s part of how [[AppliedPhlebotinum Wonders]] work in GeniusTheTransgression. The other parts are ''[[ClarksThirdLaw actual]]'' [[SubvertedTrope science]] and [[MagickPoweredPseudoscience Mania]].
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The scientific counterpart of AllMythsAreTrue, this is when long-obsolete, fringe, or disproven scientific theories are considered true for the purposes of either RuleOfCool or ArtMajorTechnology. Examples should be distinguished from ScienceMarchesOn, as in this trope's case the use of dodgy science is quite deliberate. This is sometimes a supertrope of AncientAstronauts, LamarckWasRight, GeneticMemory, and many other tropes found right here on this wiki, and arguably underpins most modern uses of alchemy in SpeculativeFiction. It's also rampant in SteamPunk, which is often set universes where, for example, the theory of the aether is true.

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The scientific counterpart of AllMythsAreTrue, this is when long-obsolete, fringe, or disproven scientific theories are considered true for the purposes of either RuleOfCool or ArtMajorTechnology. Examples should be distinguished from ScienceMarchesOn, as in this trope's case the use of dodgy science is quite deliberate. This is sometimes a supertrope of AncientAstronauts, LamarckWasRight, GeneticMemory, PsychicDreamsForEveryone and many other tropes found right here on this wiki, and arguably underpins most modern uses of alchemy in SpeculativeFiction. It's also rampant in SteamPunk, which is often set universes where, for example, the theory of the aether is true.



* {{Animorphs}} used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day.

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* {{Animorphs}} used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day.
day. Also, the series' treatment of [[PsychicDreamsForEveryone psychic pheomena]], and of the question of dolphin and whale intelligence, seems to be based on this trope.
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* {{Animorphs}} used this trope sometimes. In the case of Area 51...I mean, Zone 91...it was heavily {{Lampshaded}}. It was more moderately lampshaded when an Atlantis-type lost civilization turned out to be real. And there are also the Skrit Na, whose main purpose for being in the books was to be an alien race fitting the description of TheGreys. Subverted, though, when Erek is telling the story of how his Chee race arrived at the right time to be AncientAstronauts. When asked about the concept that they might have been the ones to design the pyramids, Erek clarifies that the Chee didn't interfere with human society in ways like that, just as they don't do things like that in the present day.

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