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19th Apr '16 11:58:08 PM erforce
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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially absurd because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)

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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''.''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially absurd because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)
9th Apr '16 6:02:11 AM Spinosegnosaurus77
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is currently called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), Pan-Aves, although Ornithosuchia was used prior to 1990), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 6:32:08 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:52:34 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the non-Avian dinosaurs[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the non-Avian dinosaurs[[/note]] ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:51:45 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the non-Avian dinosaurs[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:46:28 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:39:15 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
14th Feb '16 9:38:23 PM 10-13-2
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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially ridiculous because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)

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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially ridiculous absurd because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)
14th Feb '16 9:23:24 PM 10-13-2
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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially ridiculous because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)
17th Jan '16 3:06:21 PM nombretomado
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* In [[StarControl Star Control 2]] the Yehat have particularly bird-like mannerisms, and call themselves birds, despite clearly resembling either dragons or pterosaurs of some sort. Despite this, they are not earth animals at all, and are aliens. Their original dialog, before the 3DO version, and later the PC port The Ur-Quan Masters added voice, even had them squawking and making other various bird noises. This was replaced with a Scottish accent in the voiced editions.

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* In [[StarControl Star Control 2]] ''VideoGame/StarControlII'' the Yehat have particularly bird-like mannerisms, and call themselves birds, despite clearly resembling either dragons or pterosaurs of some sort. Despite this, they are not earth animals at all, and are aliens. Their original dialog, before the 3DO version, and later the PC port The Ur-Quan Masters added voice, even had them squawking and making other various bird noises. This was replaced with a Scottish accent in the voiced editions.
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