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6th Nov '16 9:10:18 PM CJCroen1393
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** The logic behind Flying-types being strong against Bug-types seems to be "birds eat bugs". That said, this can still be justified with creatures like Zubat and Aerodactyl as there are indeed species of bats, pterosaurs and flying insects that [[TruthInTelevision eat bugs as well]] (though a pterosaur as large as Aerodactyl would probably prefer more substantial prey). Less justified when you consider that the aforementioned dragons and manta rays share this advantage.

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** The logic behind Flying-types being strong against Bug-types seems to be "birds eat bugs". That said, this can still be justified with creatures like Zubat and Zubat, Aerodactyl and Scyther as there are indeed species of bats, pterosaurs and flying insects that [[TruthInTelevision eat bugs as well]] (though a pterosaur as large as Aerodactyl would probably prefer more substantial prey). Less justified when you consider that the aforementioned dragons and manta rays share this advantage.
6th Nov '16 9:09:33 PM CJCroen1393
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** The logic behind Flying-types being strong against Bug-types seems to be "birds eat bugs". That said, this can still be justified with creatures like Zubat and Aerodactyl as there are indeed species of bats, pterosaurs and flying insects that [[TruthInTelevision eat bugs as well]] (though a pterosaur as large as Aerodactyl would probably prefer more substantial prey). Less justified when you consider that the aforementioned dragons and manta rays share this advantage.
31st Jul '16 1:25:43 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is currently called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves, although Ornithosuchia was used prior to 1990), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is currently called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves, although Ornithosuchia was used prior to 1990), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' could ''not'' fly.
19th Apr '16 11:58:08 PM erforce
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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially absurd because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)

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* Done in-universe in ''IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''.''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''. Willie Scott, [[FishOutOfWater an]] ''[[FishOutOfWater extremely]]'' [[FishOutOfWater naïve Midwesterner]] who has apparently never been anywhere else other than Shanghai (where she performs her nightclub act), is riding an elephant through the Indian forest with Indiana and Short Round. She points out some "big birds" flying overhead - and Indy informs her that those aren't "big birds", but bats. (Especially absurd because there are ''several'' species of bats in Willie's native Missouri.)
9th Apr '16 6:02:11 AM Spinosegnosaurus77
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is currently called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), Pan-Aves, although Ornithosuchia was used prior to 1990), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 6:32:08 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this (the most liberal possible definition; this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:52:34 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the non-Avian dinosaurs[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the non-Avian dinosaurs[[/note]] ''non''-Avian dinosaurs, because modern birds are dinosaurs too[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:51:45 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most [[note]]of the non-Avian dinosaurs[[/note]] definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:46:28 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.

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* If you want to have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
8th Apr '16 4:39:15 PM LobsterMagnusNovus
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* If you have some fun with cladistics and define "bird" as everything that is closer related to modern birds than to modern crocodiles (this clade is called Avemetatarsalia or Pan-Aves), then that would indeed include the pterosaurs. But it would also include all dinosaurs, of which most definitely ''couldn't'' fly.
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