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24th Jun '17 5:48:53 PM Snowy66
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--->'''The Doctor:''' An archeologist?\\
'''River:''' You have a problem with archeologists?\\
'''The Doctor:''' I'm a time traveller. I ''point and laugh'' at archeologists.

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--->'''The Doctor:''' An archeologist?\\
archaeologist?\\
'''River:''' You have a problem with archeologists?\\
archaeologists?\\
'''The Doctor:''' I'm a time traveller. I ''point and laugh'' at archeologists.archaeologists.



'''River''': Archeology. ''[[[OffhandBackhand shoots alien behind her]]]'' Love a tomb.
** Being a time-travelling archeologist gives River plenty of foresight for her schemes. She had no need to fear Flemming in ''Series/TheHusbandsOfRiverSong'' because [[spoiler: she dug him up]].

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'''River''': Archeology.Archaeology. ''[[[OffhandBackhand shoots alien behind her]]]'' Love a tomb.
** Being a time-travelling archeologist archaeologist gives River plenty of foresight for her schemes. She had no need to fear Flemming in ''Series/TheHusbandsOfRiverSong'' because [[spoiler: she dug him up]].


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* ''Series/TheFlash2014'' Season 3 introduced Julian Albert, who in the past embarked on an expedition to finding the Brahmastra (or Philosopher's Stone). He donned a fedora and an attire much like that of Indiana himself. Later when Team Flash visit Gorilla City in Earth-2, Julian tags along once again wearing the same outfit, not wanting to pass up a trip to a parallel dimension that housed sentient apes.
* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' Season 2 has Nate Heywood, who is actually a historian, but also joins the time travelling team. He gets a lot more adventure than his typically literature job offers, being able to meet the historical figures and places up close.
19th Jun '17 5:55:06 PM JulianLapostat
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In RealLife, archeology is ''not'' the most fast paced of careers. It can involve a lot of research, dirt, and going over small details like diet and theorizing on them. A real archaeologist can make her or his career by the meticulous analysis of the contents of a garbage dump and indeed, they (well, a few) would ''prefer'' to find the dump rather than a king's tomb, since the dump can tell them far more about the way ordinary people lived, with far fewer legal and ethical ramifications. Additionally, a dump will have items of low or underestimated value, reducing the allure for tomb robbers who might have broken into tombs and ruined the information.

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In RealLife, archeology, or modern archeology to be specific, is ''not'' the most fast paced of careers. It can involve a lot of research, dirt, and going over small details like diet and theorizing on them. A real archaeologist can make her or his career by the meticulous analysis of the contents of a garbage dump and indeed, they (well, a few) would ''prefer'' to find the dump rather than a king's tomb, since the dump can tell them far more about the way ordinary people lived, with far fewer legal and ethical ramifications. Additionally, a dump will have items of low or underestimated value, reducing the allure for tomb robbers who might have broken into tombs and ruined the information.



Adventurer Archaeologists are capable of dressing up very well for more intellectual appearances, but forays into studying usually occur off-screen, and it's never implied to take very long. (Compare BadassBookworm.)

An Adventurer Archaeologist has an interesting morality. Ruins are rarely really "abandoned" as the descendants of the {{Precursors}}, or their ghosts, or even their mystically preserved selves are [[ChasedByAngryNatives very upset]] when outsiders intrude, and especially when they take the focal points of their culture with them.

Most people call this "theft," and in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom,'' it's noted that the title character has been called a "{{grave robb|ing}}er" (although real archaeologists were once considered that [[UsefulNotes/NativeAmericans and some still are]]). However, to an Adventurer Archaeologist, it's okay as long as it [[ItBelongsInAMuseum goes into a museum]]. To keep the audience rooting for the Adventurer Archaeologist, he or she is often pitted against an EvilCounterpart who wants the same treasure for themselves to hoard in a private collection, or to give it to the bad guys/sell to the highest bidder, use it to TakeOverTheWorld, etc.

This trope is OlderThanRadio, an accomplishment when considering that archeology is a profession less than two centuries old. Antiquarians, historians, and intellectual grave robbers were a staple of 19th Century gothic horror and ghost stories. They appeared regularly in pulp adventure novels and film adventures dating back to the dawn of talking pictures, including [[Film/TheMummysHand the Universal mummy movies]] and the Johnny Weismuller ''Film/{{Tarzan}}'' films. A certain Creator/GeorgeLucas and Creator/StevenSpielberg series made it big again in TheEighties. Indeed, while real archaeology is nothing like the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' movies, most every western Archaeologist since 1981 was inspired by him to become one.

It should be noted, however, that this Trope and its origins do come from [[TruthInTelevision Truth in err.... Literature]]. Early archaeologists tended to be more concerned about their own glory and getting museum trinkets that looked good than actually discovering information about ancient cultures, or preserving knowledge for future research -- let alone respecting or collaborating with the modern descendants of the people whose tombs and temples they excavated. Their methods were often horrible by modern scientific standards, as the examples below show, and they usually discarded artifacts that weren't glamorous or shiny, including some types that are considered quite scientifically or historically valuable today. As a result, no one knows how much historical evidence will never be known to us through the carelessness of 19th and early 20th century archaeologists.

To be fair, Howard Carter's expedition to retrieve Tutankhamen's body and treasures was sensational. Finding the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terracotta_Army Terracotta Army of Qin Shi Huang]] would have been a glorious experience, as well. So while there isn't quite the same level of swashbuckling that Indy experienced, if you're lucky, hitting the jackpot can still be one hell of an adrenaline rush.

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Adventurer Archaeologists are capable of dressing up very well for more intellectual appearances, but forays into studying usually occur off-screen, and it's never implied to take very long. (Compare BadassBookworm.)

) An Adventurer Archaeologist has an interesting morality. Ruins are rarely really "abandoned" as the descendants of the {{Precursors}}, or their ghosts, or even their mystically preserved selves are [[ChasedByAngryNatives very upset]] when outsiders intrude, and especially when they take the focal points of their culture with them.

them. It's not imperialism if the people who are guarding them aren't even human after all. Of course, real imperialists didn't believe the people around ancient sites were human either. Most people call this "theft," and in few others would call this "imperialism". In ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom,'' it's noted that the title character has been called a "{{grave robb|ing}}er" (although real archaeologists were once considered that [[UsefulNotes/NativeAmericans and some still are]]). However, to an Adventurer Archaeologist, it's okay as long as it [[ItBelongsInAMuseum goes into a museum]]. To keep the audience rooting for the Adventurer Archaeologist, he or she is often pitted against an EvilCounterpart who wants the same treasure for themselves to hoard in a private collection, or to give it to the bad guys/sell to the highest bidder, use it to TakeOverTheWorld, etc.

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This trope is OlderThanRadio, an accomplishment when considering that archeology is as a modern profession is less than two centuries old. Antiquarians, historians, and intellectual grave robbers were a staple of 19th Century gothic horror and ghost stories. They appeared regularly in pulp adventure novels and film adventures dating back to the dawn of talking pictures, including [[Film/TheMummysHand the Universal mummy movies]] and the Johnny Weismuller ''Film/{{Tarzan}}'' films. A certain Creator/GeorgeLucas and Creator/StevenSpielberg series made it big again in TheEighties. Indeed, while real archaeology is nothing like the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' movies, most every western Archaeologist since 1981 was inspired by him to become one.

It should be noted, however, that this Trope and its origins do come from [[TruthInTelevision Truth in err.... Literature]]. Early archaeologists tended to be more concerned about their own glory and getting museum trinkets that looked good than actually discovering information about ancient cultures, or preserving knowledge for future research -- let alone respecting or collaborating with the modern descendants of the people whose tombs and temples they excavated. Their methods were often horrible by modern scientific standards, as the examples below show, and they usually discarded artifacts that weren't glamorous or shiny, including some types that are considered quite scientifically or historically valuable today. As a result, no one knows how much historical evidence will never be known to us through the carelessness of 19th and early 20th century archaeologists.

archaeologists. To be fair, Howard Carter's expedition to retrieve Tutankhamen's body and treasures was sensational. Finding the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terracotta_Army Terracotta Army of Qin Shi Huang]] would have been a glorious experience, as well. So while there isn't quite the same level of swashbuckling that Indy experienced, if you're lucky, hitting the jackpot can still be one hell of an adrenaline rush.



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bruce,_7th_Earl_of_Elgin#Elgin_Marbles Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin]] spent much of his ambassadorship to the Ottoman Empire during the Greek War of Independence at the Parthenon, recently exploded after the Turks used it as an ammo dump. Elgin collected and removed various friezes and sculptures and sent them back to Britain and sold them to the British Museum, where the 'Elgin Marbles' still reside. This is despite the complaints of the Greek government, whose repeated requests/demands for the repatriation of the Marbles are enough of a feature that the Museum actually has small pamphlets in the gallery summarising their views on the matter: in essence, 'lol, nope'. Whether Elgin was a saviour of the priceless sculptures or, as Lord Byron phrased it, "a dishonest and rapacious vandal" is still an open question.
* T E Lawrence, a.k.a. Lawrence of Arabia, was an archaeologist who was sent to Arabia by the British government specifically because of his academic knowledge of the area. So, being an archaeologist really can lead to exciting adventures!

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* UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte's visit to Egypt arguably codified this trope. When Napoleon went to Egypt as a General, he carried an entire scientific expedition with him and he tried his best to blend in with the locals (try being the big word, [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy his behaviour was actually quite embarrassing]]), while visiting Alexandria and seeing the Pyramids. During his time there, his scientists collected a huge range of data and one of his officers discovered the Rosetta Stone. The stone would later fall into the hands of the English, but the French made etchings of it and took many samples and transcriptions back to France. It would take some two decades before Napoleon's expedition lead to the publication of "Descryption of Egypt" the birth of modern Egyptology including alongside it, Champollion's translation of the Rosetta Stone which deciphered the hieroglyphs. This was considered a seminal moment in modern archeology and it sparked and led to a huge drive among the English and other governments to start raiding tombs, discovering ruins, and grabbing stuff that didn't belong to them.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bruce,_7th_Earl_of_Elgin#Elgin_Marbles Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin]] spent much of his ambassadorship to the Ottoman Empire during the Greek War of Independence at the Parthenon, recently exploded after the Turks used it as an ammo dump. Elgin collected and removed various friezes and sculptures and sent them back to Britain and sold them to the British Museum, where the 'Elgin Marbles' still reside. This is despite the complaints of the Greek government, whose repeated requests/demands for the repatriation of the Marbles are enough of a feature that the Museum actually has small pamphlets in the gallery summarising their views on the matter: in essence, 'lol, nope'. Whether Elgin was a saviour of the priceless sculptures or, as Lord Byron phrased it, "a dishonest and rapacious vandal" is still an open question.
question. Incidentally his descendant was the guy who ordered [[MonumentalDamage the destruction of the Old Summer Palace at Beijing]], so some things do [[InTheBlood run in the family]].
* Sometimes of course, archaeology is about being in the right place at the right time. Two of the biggest and most influential archeological finds of the 20th Century were found by amateurs outside the profession:
** Poor Greek sponge divers in 1908 discovered the shipwreck that included the Antikythera Mechanism, the OlderThanYouThink gear-driven computer that everyone is still scratching their heads over.
** Bedouin Shephers likewise discovered the Dead Sea Scrolls, the series of documents that overnight altered Biblical scholarship and the history of the Levant.
* T E Lawrence, a.k.a. Lawrence of Arabia, was an archaeologist who was sent to Arabia by the British government specifically because of his academic knowledge of the area. So, being an archaeologist really can lead to exciting adventures!adventures! Although most of Lawrence's activities were of the non-archeological kind.



* A real danger is finding the lost city of somebody's drug operations in contractual archeology; being an archeologist can get more guns pointed at you than the normal person.
* Many college professors who focus on the Middle East occasionally get into slightly more perilous situations than the average archaeologist.
* Heinrich Schliemann may be the ur-example of this; in thieving, digging, and bombing his way to and through the ruins of Troy and Mycenae, Schliemann essentially invented modern archaeology by negation when observers compiled a list of his activities that archaeologists ''should never repeat''.

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* A real danger is finding the lost city of somebody's drug operations in contractual archeology; being an archeologist can get more guns pointed at you than the normal person.
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person. Many college professors who focus on the Middle East occasionally get into slightly more perilous situations than the average archaeologist.
* Heinrich Schliemann may be the ur-example of this; in thieving, digging, and bombing his way to and through the ruins of Troy the site he called "Troy", and then Mycenae, Schliemann essentially invented modern archaeology by negation when observers compiled a list of his activities that archaeologists ''should never repeat''.



* Another possible inspiration for both Franchise/IndianaJones and [[Creator/ArthurConanDoyle Arthur Conan Doyle's]] Professor Challenger was Percy Fawcett whose exploits in South America read like something from fiction - such as fighting giant snakes. He died at the age of [[BadassGrandpa fifty-seven]] while searching for the [[LostWorld 'The Lost City of Z']].

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* Another possible inspiration for both Franchise/IndianaJones and [[Creator/ArthurConanDoyle Arthur Conan Doyle's]] Professor Challenger was Percy Fawcett whose written exploits in South America read like something from fiction - -- such as fighting giant snakes. He snakes -- undoubtedly because they ''were'' fictions and most of his "adventures" were made-up tall tales greatly exaggerated by himself and his family out of proportion. Most anthropologists and archaeologists considered him a dangerous incompetent and idiot who got himself and his son killed during his "quest" to search what he claimed was ''Film/TheLostCityOfZ'', making basic mistakes, insulting native tribes, [[JerkAss beating their children and insulting them]], and in the opinion of the Brazilian anthropologists, the Villa-Boa brothers, he was a victim ''"[[TooDumbToLive as anyone else would have been, of the harshness and lack of tact that all recognised in him]]."'' In other words, Fawcett had the recklessness, casual racism, and maverick approach to archaeology of the Victorian BoldExplorer [[RealityEnsues and died at the age of [[BadassGrandpa fifty-seven]] while searching for the [[LostWorld 'The Lost City of Z']].trying to live up]] to what [[WrongGenreSavvy was already a highly popular heroic ideal in that time]].
19th Jun '17 5:20:21 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bruce,_7th_Earl_of_Elgin#Elgin_Marbles Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin]] spent much of his ambassadorship to the Ottoman Empire during the Greek War of Independence at the Parthenon, recently exploded after the Turks used it as an ammo dump. Elgin collected and removed various friezes and sculptures and sent them back to Britain, where the 'Elgin Marbles' still reside. Whether Elgin was a savior of the priceless sculptures or, as Lord Byron phrased it, "a dishonest and rapacious vandal" is still an open question.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bruce,_7th_Earl_of_Elgin#Elgin_Marbles Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin]] spent much of his ambassadorship to the Ottoman Empire during the Greek War of Independence at the Parthenon, recently exploded after the Turks used it as an ammo dump. Elgin collected and removed various friezes and sculptures and sent them back to Britain, Britain and sold them to the British Museum, where the 'Elgin Marbles' still reside. This is despite the complaints of the Greek government, whose repeated requests/demands for the repatriation of the Marbles are enough of a feature that the Museum actually has small pamphlets in the gallery summarising their views on the matter: in essence, 'lol, nope'. Whether Elgin was a savior saviour of the priceless sculptures or, as Lord Byron phrased it, "a dishonest and rapacious vandal" is still an open question.
16th Jun '17 10:05:27 PM nombretomado
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* ''[[SeventhSea 7th Sea]]'' has the Explorer's Society, a continent-spanning organization of Adventurer Archaeologists. And their rivals.

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* ''[[SeventhSea 7th Sea]]'' ''TabletopGame/SeventhSea'' has the Explorer's Society, a continent-spanning organization of Adventurer Archaeologists. And their rivals.
16th Jun '17 8:55:47 PM MagiMecha
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** Tanya of ''Series/PowerRangersZeo'' has parents that are these. Prior to the events of ''Mighty Morphin' Alien Rangers'', Tanya was left in an African village while they ended up disappearing. When Yellow Ranger Aisha, her and most of the world altered by Rita and Zedd putting the world back in time, came to retrieve a fragment of the Zeo Crystal, the two swap places. Not only does she become the new Yellow Ranger, being this allows her to rescue her parents and retrieve Auric the Conqueror
4th Jun '17 8:28:57 AM ZimFan89
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* ''ComicBook/StarWarsDarthVader'' introduces Doctor Aphra, basically a gender- and moral-flipped Indiana Jones (her first scene even parodies the opening of ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk''). She describes herself as a "rogue archaeologist", who specializes in retrieving rare and ancient objects (especially weapons) that she then sells to the highest bidder. Vader recruits her to act as his agent, helping him to build the resources necessary to stage a coup against the Emperor, and by the time the series reaches an end, she's become [[EnsembleDarkHorse popular enough]] that she gets [[ComicBook/StarWarsDoctorAphra her own]].
1st Jun '17 6:18:50 PM Mullon
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* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ComicBook/RedTornado, in his secret identity as an archaeology professor, tells his students that archaeology is not about adventuring but rather long hours of boring research. [[HypocriticalHumor Then he saves Christmas alongside Batman.]] The adventure itself had nothing to do with archaeology...

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* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ComicBook/RedTornado, in his secret identity as an archaeology professor, tells his students that archaeology is not about adventuring but rather long hours of boring research. [[HypocriticalHumor Then he saves Christmas alongside Batman.]] The ]][[note]]The adventure itself had nothing to do with archaeology...archaeology.[[/note]]
13th May '17 5:26:55 PM nombretomado
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* Averted with professional archaeologist Jacob Ramsey in Christie Golden's [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} Dark Templar trilogy]]. Though described as a "maverick" by his peers, he points out that archaeology is not all adventures and being chased by boulders and he doesn't go about trying to manhandle his way into the Xel'Naga "temple".

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* Averted with professional archaeologist Jacob Ramsey in Christie Golden's [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} [[VideoGame/StarCraft Dark Templar trilogy]]. Though described as a "maverick" by his peers, he points out that archaeology is not all adventures and being chased by boulders and he doesn't go about trying to manhandle his way into the Xel'Naga "temple".
6th May '17 2:33:47 PM IndustriousArc
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* In ''VideoGames/TheAgeOfDecadence,'' characters who choose the Loremaster class are specifically geared toward becoming this. Searching ancient ruins and uncovering the events that directly led to the game's apocalyptic setting. Often, however, digging up and fiddling with highly advanced ancient technology can have incredibly destructive results for the inhabitants of what remains of the world.
26th Apr '17 12:07:16 PM hszmv1
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*** Of course, the first lampshade leads to a BrickJoke later in the movie when Indie and co. figure out that the clue's answer is to look for the number 10 and they realize that the letters in the room are Roman Numerals. They can't find the number in question until Indie goes to the second floor and looks down from the railing to see a giant X marking the spot where they are looking for. For bonus points, the building in question was already established as being a library. [[FromACertainPointOfView Seems like he was taking some lessons from his Jedi friend.]] Becomes a bit more subtle when they actually do have to follow a map to a marked location (this time with a creasent, not an X) to find a lost city with treasure inside ([[TempleOfDoom though it wasn't buried until they came along.]]).
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