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* In [[TabletopGame Pathfinder]] there was ancient Thassilon, a human kingdom that existed over 10,000 years ago where humans not only reigned in great power but were (at least in 1st edition) superior to present day humans (having a +2 to all ability scores instead of just to one) and was ruled over by sevenj powerful wizards called the Runelords. The empire fell when the Aboleths tried to wipe out all life on the planet with a poisonous meteor that took the sacrifice of three deities to downgrade from "Planet-wide extinction" to "post-apocalypse". At least three of the first edition adventure paths deal with the runelords trying to return and reassert their dominance over Golarion.

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* In [[TabletopGame Pathfinder]] there was ancient Thassilon, a human kingdom that existed over 10,000 years ago where humans not only reigned in great power but were (at least in 1st edition) superior to present day humans (having a +2 to all ability scores instead of just to one) and was ruled over by sevenj seven powerful wizards called the Runelords.Runelords each of whom was the absolute master of one of the seven schools of magic. The empire fell when the Aboleths tried to wipe out all life on the planet with a poisonous meteor that took the sacrifice of three deities to downgrade from "Planet-wide extinction" to "post-apocalypse". At least three of the first edition adventure paths deal with the runelords trying to return and reassert their dominance over Golarion.
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* In TabletopGame/Pathfinder there was ancient Thassilon, a human kingdom that existed over 10,000 years ago where humans not only reigned in great power but were (at least in 1st edition) superior to present day humans (having a +2 to all ability scores instead of just to one) and was ruled over by sevenj powerful wizards called the Runelords. The empire fell when the Aboleths tried to wipe out all life on the planet with a poisonous meteor that took the sacrifice of three deities to downgrade from "Planet-wide extinction" to "post-apocalypse". At least three of the first edition adventure paths deal with the runelords trying to return and reassert their dominance over Golarion.

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* In TabletopGame/Pathfinder [[TabletopGame Pathfinder]] there was ancient Thassilon, a human kingdom that existed over 10,000 years ago where humans not only reigned in great power but were (at least in 1st edition) superior to present day humans (having a +2 to all ability scores instead of just to one) and was ruled over by sevenj powerful wizards called the Runelords. The empire fell when the Aboleths tried to wipe out all life on the planet with a poisonous meteor that took the sacrifice of three deities to downgrade from "Planet-wide extinction" to "post-apocalypse". At least three of the first edition adventure paths deal with the runelords trying to return and reassert their dominance over Golarion.
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* In TabletopGame/Pathfinder there was ancient Thassilon, a human kingdom that existed over 10,000 years ago where humans not only reigned in great power but were (at least in 1st edition) superior to present day humans (having a +2 to all ability scores instead of just to one) and was ruled over by sevenj powerful wizards called the Runelords. The empire fell when the Aboleths tried to wipe out all life on the planet with a poisonous meteor that took the sacrifice of three deities to downgrade from "Planet-wide extinction" to "post-apocalypse". At least three of the first edition adventure paths deal with the runelords trying to return and reassert their dominance over Golarion.
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* Creator/AndreiLivadny's novel ''Ark'' heavily implies that the planet that the titular Moon-sized starship (it ''is'' the actual Moon, hollowed-out and rigged with engines) crash-lands on is Earth in distant past, especially since the first person out of the ship is a shepherd named Noah. Oh, and the crash happens to have emptied (or ''parted'', perhaps) a sea. Apparently, the giant ship has somehow traveled back in time. The author obviously ignores the consequences of a Moon-sized object hitting Earth (not to mention a giant spherical mountain that we have somehow missed).

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* Creator/AndreiLivadny's Creator/AndreyLivadny's novel ''Ark'' heavily implies that the planet that the titular Moon-sized starship (it ''is'' the actual Moon, hollowed-out and rigged with engines) crash-lands on is Earth in distant past, especially since the first person out of the ship is a shepherd named Noah. Oh, and the crash happens to have emptied (or ''parted'', perhaps) a sea. Apparently, the giant ship has somehow traveled back in time. The author obviously ignores the consequences of a Moon-sized object hitting Earth (not to mention a giant spherical mountain that we have somehow missed).
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* ''Anime/TheLawsOfTheSun'': Before modern humans populated the planet, the Venusians and other human-like races under their care, the people of Mu, and the Atlanteans' civilizations were extremely advanced. However, such advances become their undoing as this made them forget their spiritual heritage, persecuting and destroying anyone who dared to acknowledge it. As a consequence, these people fall into Hell in droves upon dying and possess other living people as well, leading the Earth's consciousness to awaken every time this happens and cause cataclysms to cleanse the planet.
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' had the ancient Allagan Empire, which ruled over most of Eorzea in the past. The Allagans had a ton of advanced technology (facilities, machines, etc) whose remains can be see in the present time, but almost no one knows how to use them or even know what they are. [[spoiler: By ''Endwalker'', it's revealed that there was a civilization that's ''far'' older and more advanced than the Allagans; a race of people who were so skillful with manipulating aether and use of creation magicks that they could create lifeforms with ease. When the Final Days wiped out all but three of the ancients, one of the remaining three would build the Allagan Empire many years later. Unlike the Allagans, there are no traces of the civilization from the ancient past in the present.]]
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This is a thoroughly debunked view of the "dark ages". Technology actually advanced in western Europe following the fall of the Roman Empire.


* The fall of the Western Roman Empire was this for western Europe. The Roman system reached a level of sophistication and expanse that would not be equaled in western Europe for more than a thousand years after its fall. Centralized government and administration, professional armies, large-scale architecture - all these things would take hundreds of years to reemerge.
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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the episode "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS5E129Probe7OverAndOut Probe 7, Over and Out]]", Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the episode "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS5E129Probe7OverAndOut "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S5E9Probe7OverAndOut Probe 7, Over and Out]]", Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasy1'': In the original version, this is indicated by the Floating Castle (AKA Flying Fortress) is an orbital space station, referred to as a castle in-game because the characters don't have any other vocabulary to describe it. This is why you can see the stars out the windows and it's full of robots and other high-tech trappings. It also means that the "prosperous nations" of the past had access to super-modern technology and that the scope of devastation inflicted by Tiamat and Kraken is much more extensive than you first thought.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasy1'': ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyI'': In the original version, this is indicated by the Floating Castle (AKA Flying Fortress) is an orbital space station, referred to as a castle in-game because the characters don't have any other vocabulary to describe it. This is why you can see the stars out the windows and it's full of robots and other high-tech trappings. It also means that the "prosperous nations" of the past had access to super-modern technology and that the scope of devastation inflicted by Tiamat and Kraken is much more extensive than you first thought.

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': Gilgamesh is disgusted with modern civilization for this reason. During his reign, humanity was a very powerful and advanced race. Gilgamesh believes humanity has declined because there are so many humans now, and the intrinsic strength of humanity has become diluted in each human as a result. The reason he desires the Grail is because he wants to bring that golden age back [[spoiler:by using the Grail to kill most of humanity. He would then rebuild his kingdom with the worthy survivors]]. The disturbing part is that due to the way magic works, there's a good chance he's right.

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'': ''Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}'':
** Humans long ago established many civilizations thanks to gods ruling over them, particularly that of Atlantis, the progenitor of Greek civilization and the domain of the Twelve Olympians/Pillars/Machine Gods. All these civilizations came to an end when the alien Velber came to harvest civilizations and their data, which entailed deploying the White Titan Sefar on Earth to slaughter everything in its path. Humanity has long since forgotten about this time period, with their records only dating back to the dawn of modern civilization in Mesopotamia.
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Gilgamesh is disgusted with modern civilization for exactly this reason. During his reign, humanity was a very powerful and advanced race. Gilgamesh believes humanity has declined because there are so many humans now, and the intrinsic strength of humanity has become diluted in each human as a result. The reason he desires the Grail is because he wants to bring that golden age back [[spoiler:by using the Grail to kill most of humanity. He would then rebuild his kingdom with the worthy survivors]]. The disturbing part is that due to the way magic works, there's a good chance he's right.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Arknights}}'' has the unnamed {{Precursors}} race, which is implied to have come to Terra from another planet. They look like humans, with none of the LittleBitBeastly traits of modern-day people, and they've created (and left behind) super-computers, said LittleBitBeastly peoples, and a massive shield surrounding the entire planet. They are all but gone in the present day; [[spoiler:only Friston (albeit as a robot) and the Doctor you play as are confirmed to still be around.]]
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* Many creation scientists propose that the civilization before Noah’s Flood was highly advanced.
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* In ''FanFic/TheBridge'' hints established in the ''Heisei Godzilla'', ''Gamera'', and ''Rebirth of Mothra'' series (which were combine thanks to a SharedUniverse Retcon) were expanded upon. 77,000 years ago humanity had a full knowledge of mana using magic, lived alongside TheFairFolk, had Magitek advanced enough to control the weather and build floating cities; and [[AdvancedAncientAcropolis now mythical civilizations]] like Atlantis and the Mu empire were very real. And then the BigBad came along and enacted the ''Toba Catastrophe'', wiping out almost all sentient life. The effort to seal him away [[SealedEvilInACan under Attu Island]] took away most of the world's magic.

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* In ''FanFic/TheBridge'' hints established in the ''Heisei Godzilla'', ''Gamera'', and ''Rebirth of Mothra'' series (which were combine combined thanks to a SharedUniverse Retcon) were expanded upon. 77,000 years ago humanity had a full knowledge of mana using magic, lived alongside TheFairFolk, had Magitek advanced enough to control the weather and build floating cities; and [[AdvancedAncientAcropolis now mythical civilizations]] like Atlantis and the Mu empire were very real. And then the BigBad came along and enacted the ''Toba Catastrophe'', wiping out almost all sentient life. The effort to seal him away [[SealedEvilInACan under Attu Island]] took away most of the world's magic.
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* While there's no evidence of any civilizations with current day levels of technology, there were quite a few who were advanced compared to what followed, particularly since until a certain point, even the largest societies were at risk of being wiped out by a natural disaster. The Minoans of Santorini, considered a likely inspiration for the legend of Atlantis, are a prime example. They were quite advanced for 4000 years ago,[[note]]Their capital Akrotiri had paved roads, a sewer system and multi-story buildings, and they produced especially high-quality pottery.[[/note]] but unfortunately the wonderfully fertile island on which they built their civilization was ''the crater of a supervolcano''. Around 1600 BC, the city center was completely obliterated by one of the largest eruptions in human history, and the rest of the island was buried under the volcanic ash, with their empire splintering in the aftermath into the many Greek {{city state}}s.

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* While there's no evidence of any civilizations with current day levels of technology, there were quite a few who were advanced compared to what followed, particularly since until a certain point, even the largest societies were at risk of being wiped out by a natural disaster. The Minoans of Santorini, considered a likely inspiration for the legend of Atlantis, are a prime example. They were quite advanced for 4000 years ago,[[note]]Their capital Akrotiri had paved roads, a sewer system and multi-story buildings, and they produced especially high-quality pottery.[[/note]] but unfortunately the this wonderfully fertile island on which they built their civilization was ''the crater of a supervolcano''. Around 1600 BC, the city center was completely obliterated by one of the largest eruptions in human history, and the rest of the island was buried under the volcanic ash, with their empire splintering in ash. Contrary to popular belief, this didn't destroy the aftermath Minoan civilization immediately - Santorini was a colony of the similarly advanced Cretan cities - but it did send them into decline, and they got conquered by the many Greek {{city state}}s.highly militaristic Mycenean Greeks (the ancestors of the later Classical Greeks, and also the inspiration for the mythical heroes) a century or two later.
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* ''Manga/DrStone'': [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] where it is ''Modern'' day Humans that were the more advanced civilization [[TakenForGranite before all of Humanity was transformed into Stone Statues]] and was stuck for 3700 years, causing all of their structures and technology to slowly corrode and rust away. [[spoiler:The reason why there are non-petrified humans are because [[WhatAboutTheAstronauts they are the descendants of six Astronauts that were on the ISS at the time]] [[AdamAndEvePlot that came back down to Earth and started repopulating.]]]] [[ScienceHero Senku]] shares this information with Chrome, vowing to restart Human Civilization once again as The Kingdom of Science.

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* ''Manga/DrStone'': [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] where it is ''Modern'' day Humans that were the more advanced civilization [[TakenForGranite before all of Humanity was transformed into Stone Statues]] and was stuck for 3700 years, causing all of their structures and technology to slowly corrode and rust away. [[spoiler:The reason why there are non-petrified humans are because [[WhatAboutTheAstronauts [[ButWhatAboutTheAstronauts they are the descendants of six Astronauts that were on the ISS at the time]] [[AdamAndEvePlot that came back down to Earth and started repopulating.]]]] [[ScienceHero Senku]] shares this information with Chrome, vowing to restart Human Civilization once again as The Kingdom of Science.
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* ''The Second Sleep'' by Creator/RobertHarris at first appears to be set in the late Middle Ages. It is even explicitly stated to be set in the year 1468. However it is actually set some 800 years in the future, with the world having reset its dating system after an undefined - though implied to be a general failure of computer technology - apocalypse that led to the total collapse of 21st century society, with the date of the apocalypse, some time around our year 2025, retroactively labelled as Year 666. Remnants of 21st century technology have survived, but their study and use is strictly prohibited by a society that believes that "The Ancients" (i.e, ''us'') were led to sin by their reliance on technology and punished by God.
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* Creator/DeanKoontz's ''Twilight Eyes''. At some point in the distant past humanity had a highly developed civilization, including genetic engineering. They created a race of evil shapeshifters that [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters went out of control and destroyed civilization]] so thoroughly that modern humans can't find any trace of it.

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* In Creator/DeanKoontz's ''Twilight Eyes''. At ''Literature/TwilightEyes'', at some point in the distant past humanity had a highly developed civilization, including genetic engineering. They created a race of evil shapeshifters that [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters went out of control and destroyed civilization]] so thoroughly that modern humans can't find any trace of it.



* Creator/StephenBaxter's Manifold setting plays with this. It doesn't apply in the [[Literature/ManifoldTime first book]] because the Downstreamers are actually time travelers from the far future, but the [[Literature/ManifoldSpace second]] and [[Literature/ManifoldOrigin third]] books, as well as some of the short stories, take place in [[TheMultiverse various universes]] that the Downstreamers created at the end of the first book, where variations on humanity were guided to evolve as experiments under different conditions.

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* Creator/StephenBaxter's Manifold ''Manifold'' setting plays with this. It doesn't apply in the [[Literature/ManifoldTime first book]] because the Downstreamers are actually time travelers from the far future, but the [[Literature/ManifoldSpace second]] and [[Literature/ManifoldOrigin third]] books, as well as some of the short stories, take place in [[TheMultiverse various universes]] that the Downstreamers created at the end of the first book, where variations on humanity were guided to evolve as experiments under different conditions.
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* Creator/StephenBaxter's Manifold setting plays with this. It doesn't apply in the [[Literature/ManifoldTime first book]] because the Downstreamers are actually time travelers from the far future, but the [[Literature/ManifoldSpace second]] and [[Literature/ManifoldOrigin third]] books, as well as some of the short stories, take place in [[TheMultiverse various universes]] that the Downstreamers created at the end of the first book, where variations on humanity were guided to evolve as experiments under different conditions.
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It's unclear if the Hylians created the Ancient Robots in SS, or if Lanayru (one of the guardian dragons) created them


* The Hylians and Sheikah from ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' are portrayed as having once produced lots of advanced futuristic {{Magitek}} in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' and ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' respectively. In the former game, excessive development resulted in environmental degradation and desertification that left the advanced civilization in ruins, while in the latter game, the Kingdom of Hyrule deliberately abandoned the technology out of fear of its power and only dug it back up 10,000 years later to use it against Calamity Ganon.

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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'': The Hylians and Sheikah from ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' are portrayed as having once produced lots of advanced futuristic {{Magitek}} in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' and ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' respectively. In {{Magitek}}, to the former game, excessive development resulted in environmental degradation and desertification point that left the advanced civilization in ruins, while in the latter game, the Kingdom of Hyrule deliberately abandoned the technology out of fear of its power and only dug it back up 10,000 years later to use it against Calamity Ganon.
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* ''Creator/MasamuneShirow'' also plays with this in his second work, Orion. The main story takes place billions of years before present, in a multi-galactic Human precursor civilization. Many of the main characters and their personalities are based on Shinto or Buddhist deities or the Cthulhu Mythos.

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* ''Creator/MasamuneShirow'' Creator/MasamuneShirow also plays with this in his second work, Orion.''Orion''. The main story takes place billions of years before present, in a multi-galactic Human precursor civilization. Many of the main characters and their personalities are based on Shinto or Buddhist deities or the Cthulhu Mythos.
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* In later chapters of the original manga version of ''Manga/BlackMagicM66'', the cyberpunk Human civilization scours the surface of their home-world in a genocidal war with their Bioroid creations. [[spoiler:Venus never recovers, but the handful of refugees who make it to Earth flourish]]. Many of Black Magic's themes, including more oblique references to Precursor Humans, reappeared in ''Manga/Appleseed''

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* In later chapters of the original manga version of ''Manga/BlackMagicM66'', the cyberpunk Human human civilization scours the surface of their home-world in a genocidal war with their Bioroid bioroid creations. [[spoiler:Venus never recovers, but the handful of refugees who make it to Earth flourish]]. Many of Black Magic's ''Black Magic'''s themes, including more oblique references to Precursor Humans, {{Precursor|s}} humans, reappeared in ''Manga/Appleseed''''Manga/{{Appleseed}}''.



* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'', episode "Probe 7 - Over And Out": Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'', ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the episode "Probe 7 - "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS5E129Probe7OverAndOut Probe 7, Over And Out": and Out]]", Cook has a spaceship and Norda came from another planet, so she probably had one too. Their first names [[AdamAndEvePlot turn out to be Adam and Eve]].
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* In later chapters of the original manga version of ''Manga/BlackMagicM66'', the cyberpunk Human civilization scours the surface of their home-world in a genocidal war with their Bioroid creations. [[spoiler:Venus never recovers, but the handful of refugees who make it to Earth flourish]]. Many of Black Magic's themes, including more oblique references to Precursor Humans, reappeared in ''Manga/Appleseed''
* ''Creator/MasamuneShirow'' also plays with this in his second work, Orion. The main story takes place billions of years before present, in a multi-galactic Human precursor civilization. Many of the main characters and their personalities are based on Shinto or Buddhist deities or the Cthulhu Mythos.
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* The Indus Valley has a much higher background radiation field than the rest of Asia. Myth/HinduMythology contains references to aircraft (Vimaans), tanks (Juggernauts), and city-breaking superweapons (Brahmastras), leading some to hypothesize that it's actually a FutureImperfect retelling of a nuclear war. There is no archeological evidence of this so far, though, but it hasn't stopped some from claiming all these things really existed then.

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* The Indus Valley has a much higher background radiation field than the rest of Asia. Myth/HinduMythology contains references to aircraft (Vimaans), tanks (Juggernauts), and [[FantasticNuke city-breaking superweapons that left dangerous fallout]] (Brahmastras), leading some to hypothesize that it's actually a FutureImperfect retelling of a nuclear war. There is no archeological evidence of this so far, though, but it hasn't stopped some from claiming all these things really existed then.
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* The Elder Race of Man from the RockOpera ''Music/TwentyOneTwelve'' by ''Music/{{Rush}}''. A culture that valued creativity and the arts, the Elder Race was at some point thought destroyed and replaced by the Solar Federation. WordOfGod says the final track in the series is meant to represent the return of the Elder Race and the defeat of the culturally repressive Federation.

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* The Elder Race of Man from the RockOpera ''Music/TwentyOneTwelve'' by ''Music/{{Rush}}''.''Music/{{Rush|Band}}''. A culture that valued creativity and the arts, the Elder Race was at some point thought destroyed and replaced by the Solar Federation. WordOfGod says the final track in the series is meant to represent the return of the Elder Race and the defeat of the culturally repressive Federation.
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* ''[[Series/WonderWoman1975 Wonder Woman]]'': In "Fausta, the Nazi Wonder Woman", Wonder Woman tells us that the Amazons of Paradise Island have "existed in peace and happiness for twenty-six centuries", thus predating the Roman Empire. They have guns, invisible planes, telepathy, and each Amazon has SuperStrength.

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* ''[[Series/WonderWoman1975 Wonder Woman]]'': ''Series/WonderWoman1975'': In "Fausta, the Nazi Wonder Woman", Wonder Woman tells us that the Amazons of Paradise Island have "existed in peace and happiness for twenty-six centuries", thus predating the Roman Empire. They have guns, invisible planes, telepathy, and each Amazon has SuperStrength.
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Compare HumanAliens, AdamAndEvePlot, EarthAllAlong. For a specific subtrope of this, see {{Atlantis}} (depending on how advanced it's depicted as being). For ''any'' species that came before us, including aliens, see {{Precursors}}. Compare UltraTerrestrials, when an alien species turns out to also be from Earth but developed and left way in pre-history (before humans were around). Often overlaps with HumanityCameFromSpace. When the story is set in a future where humanity is extinct, see HumanitysWake. See HumanityIsAdvanced where humanity is the current Advanced Alien. If we have evolved to the point these guys are not immediately recognizable as human they may also be OriginalMan.

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Compare HumanAliens, AdamAndEvePlot, EarthAllAlong. For a specific subtrope SubTrope of this, see {{Atlantis}} (depending on how advanced it's depicted as being). For ''any'' species that came before us, including aliens, see {{Precursors}}. Compare UltraTerrestrials, {{Ultraterrestrials}}, when an alien species turns out to also be from Earth but developed and left way in pre-history (before humans were around). Often overlaps with HumanityCameFromSpace. When the story is set in a future where humanity is extinct, see HumanitysWake. See HumanityIsAdvanced where humanity is the current Advanced Alien. If we have evolved to the point that these guys are not immediately recognizable as human human, they may also be OriginalMan.
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', ancient humans were able to perform magic, which granted them safety from [[OurDemonsAreDifferent the Grimm]] and let them create wonders. However, [[spoiler:they were all wiped out by the God of Darkness, and their second generation was made without that capacity]], so modern humans have no magical prowess and live in fear of the Grimm. [[BigBad Salem]] and [[BigGood Ozpin]] are two people from this time and retained their magic in addition to the immortality they were cursed with.

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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', ancient humans were able to perform magic, which granted them safety from [[OurDemonsAreDifferent the Grimm]] and let them create wonders. However, [[spoiler:they were all wiped out by the God of Darkness, and their second generation was made without that capacity]], so modern humans have no magical prowess and live in fear of the Grimm.Grimm, who routinely destroy their societies. [[BigBad Salem]] and [[BigGood Ozpin]] are two people from this time and retained their magic in addition to the immortality they were cursed with.
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', ancient humans were able to perform magic, which granted them safety from [[OurDemonsAreDifferent the Grimm]] and let them create wonders. However, [[spoiler:they were all wiped out by the God of Darkness, and their second generation was made without that capacity]], so modern humans have no magical prowess and live in fear of the Grimm. [[BigBad Salem]] and [[BigGood Ozpin]] are two people from this time and retained their magic in addition to the immortality they were cursed with.

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