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* This is part of the back story for the iconic Slayer Zadim in ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}''. Sent to kill a Taldan noble who persecuted followers of Sarenae, He tracks him down but ultimately finds a Paladin who is actively working to atone for his past transgressions. He finds himself torn between becoming this or letting him find his forgiveness.
* This is part of the back story for the iconic Slayer Zadim in ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}''. Sent to kill a Taldan noble who persecuted followers of Sarenae, He tracks him down but ultimately finds a Paladin who is actively working to atone for his past transgressions. He finds himself torn between becoming this or letting him find his forgiveness.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget. However, Athena also notes [[EveryoneHasStandards even the Gods couldn't forget what he did]], so it's less intentional than others.
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* ''The Benchwarmers'' has one of the coaches for the RagtagBunchOfMisfits be a former bully who regrets his past actions. His team promptly turns on him once the secret gets out.
* Played around with in "Ringu 0". The journalist Akiko Miyaji was determined to find out about and get revenge on Sadako, knowing that she was responsible for her fiancé's death. However, we see that Sadako isn't really evil and malicious as the former believes. But when Akiko reveals Sadako's past traumas to the entire theatre group and audience, it leads to an inevitable yet depressing DownerEnding.
* Played around with in "Ringu 0". The journalist Akiko Miyaji was determined to find out about and get revenge on Sadako, knowing that she was responsible for her fiancé's death. However, we see that Sadako isn't really evil and malicious as the former believes. But when Akiko reveals Sadako's past traumas to the entire theatre group and audience, it leads to an inevitable yet depressing DownerEnding.
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* ''The Benchwarmers'' ''Film/{{Benchwarmers}}'' has one of the coaches for the RagtagBunchOfMisfits be a former bully who regrets his past actions. His team promptly turns on him once the secret gets out.
* Played around with in"Ringu 0"."[[Literature/TheRing Ringu 0]]". The journalist Akiko Miyaji was determined to find out about and get revenge on Sadako, knowing that she was responsible for her fiancé's death. However, we see that Sadako isn't really evil and malicious as the former believes. But when Akiko reveals Sadako's past traumas to the entire theatre group and audience, it leads to an inevitable yet depressing DownerEnding.
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* The League of Shadows are basically this in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Years after their first attempt to destroy Gotham in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', they try again, even though their job is to destroy cities where crime rules. So they try to reinstate their plan to destroy the city after '''eight years''' of peace in Gotham. Gets worse when you realize that 90% of the new crime wave in Gothmam was ''their'' fault (not such a surprise given that a large part of the reason Gotham became such a WretchedHive in the first place was because of their manipulations).
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* The League of Shadows are basically this in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Years after their first attempt to destroy Gotham in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', they try again, even though their job is to destroy cities where crime rules. So they try to reinstate their plan to destroy the city after '''eight years''' of peace in Gotham. Gets worse when you realize that 90% of the new crime wave in Gothmam Gotham was ''their'' fault (not such a surprise given that a large part of the reason Gotham became such a WretchedHive in the first place was because of their manipulations).
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* The League of Shadows are basically this in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Years after their first attempt to destroy Gotham in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', they try again, even though their job is to destroy cities where crime rule.rules. So they try to reinstate their plan to destroy the city after '''eight years''' of peace in Gotham. Gets worse when you realize that 90% of the new crime wave in Gothmam was ''their'' fault (not such a surprise given that a large part of the reason Gotham became such a WretchedHive in the first place was because of their manipulations).
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effort to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, whose vendetta towards Angel runs so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truly redeeming himself.
* In ''House Of Payne'', CJ becomes this when Blue, a drug dealer and BigBad of the story arc of Janine's crack addiction, seeks repentance in a church as he was dying of AIDS. When Janine and Ella work to help take care of him and pray for him, but CJ doesn't support him and gets mad at Janine for helping him. At one point he goes to the church and simply says "''I don't know what your trying to prove - that man is beyond your prayers''." and walks out. He gets better when [[spoiler: Ella gives him a WhatTheHellHero speech about being a true christian, and at Blue's last moments, CJ goes to pray for Blue's repentance at Blue's bedside.]]
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, whose vendetta towards Angel runs so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truly redeeming himself.
* In ''House Of Payne'', CJ becomes this when Blue, a drug dealer and BigBad of the story arc of Janine's crack addiction, seeks repentance in a church as he was dying of AIDS. When Janine and Ella work to help take care of him and pray for him, but CJ doesn't support him and gets mad at Janine for helping him. At one point he goes to the church and simply says "''I don't know what your trying to prove - that man is beyond your prayers''." and walks out. He gets better when [[spoiler: Ella gives him a WhatTheHellHero speech about being a true christian, and at Blue's last moments, CJ goes to pray for Blue's repentance at Blue's bedside.]]
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effort to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
**Likewise in Likewise, the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, whose vendetta towards Angel runs so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truly redeeming himself.
* In ''House Of Payne'', CJ becomes this when Blue, a drug dealer and BigBad of the story arc of Janine's crack addiction, seeks repentance in a church as he was dying of AIDS. When Janine and Ella work to help take care of him and pray for him,but CJ doesn't support him and gets mad at Janine for helping him. At one point point, he goes to the church and simply says "''I don't know what your you're trying to prove - that man is beyond your prayers''." and walks out. He gets better when [[spoiler: Ella [[spoiler:Ella gives him a WhatTheHellHero speech about being a true christian, Christian, and at Blue's last moments, CJ goes to pray for Blue's repentance at Blue's bedside.]]
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* In ''House Of Payne'', CJ becomes this when Blue, a drug dealer and BigBad of the story arc of Janine's crack addiction, seeks repentance in a church as he was dying of AIDS. When Janine and Ella work to help take care of him and pray for him,
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel separated from God and force them over the DespairEventHorizon.
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* [[BigBad Alistair Smythe]] is this to Curt Connors in ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan''. Ever since the Lizard's rampage, Smythe was made the head of Oscorp's science experiments, and always blamed Connors for the continuation of the Cross Species experiments. When the virus breaks out and Connors develops a cure, [[spoiler: he kidnaps Connors, and later reveals the reason he did so was because he didn't want the city to be saved with the solution Connors created, rather then the nanobot cocktail Smythe created.]]
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* [[BigBad Alistair Smythe]] is this to Curt Connors in ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan''. Ever since the Lizard's rampage, Smythe was made the head of Oscorp's science experiments, and always blamed Connors for the continuation of the Cross Species experiments. When the virus breaks out and Connors develops a cure, [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he kidnaps Connors, and later reveals the reason he did so was because he didn't want the city to be saved with the solution Connors created, rather then the nanobot cocktail Smythe created.]]
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* In the ''FamilyGuy'' episode, "And I'm Joyce Kinney", the title character tries to ruin Lois' reputation by revealing that she was in a porno movie, as payback for when Lois humilated her in High School. Should be noted when Lois is forgiven, Joyce gets angry.
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* In the ''FamilyGuy'' episode, "And I'm Joyce Kinney", the title character tries to ruin Lois' reputation by revealing that she was in a porno movie, as payback for when Lois humilated her in High School. Should be noted that when Lois is forgiven, Joyce gets angry.
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* In one ''FamilyGuy'' episode, ''I'm With Joyce Kinney'', has the title character trying to ruin Lois's reputation by revealing that she was in a porno movie, as payback for when Lois humilated her in High School. Should be noted when Lois is forgiven, Joyce gets angry.
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* [[BigBad Alistair Smythe]] is this to Curt Connors in ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderman''. Ever since the Lizards rampage, Smythe was put as the head of Oscorps science experiments, and always blamed Connors for the continuaton of the Cross Species experiments. When the virus breaks out and Connors develops a cure, [[spoiler: he kidnaps Connors, and later reveals the reason he did so was because he didn't want the city to be saved with the solution Connors created, rather then the nanobot cocktail Smythe created.]]
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* [[BigBad Alistair Smythe]] is this to Curt Connors in ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderman''. ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan''. Ever since the Lizards Lizard's rampage, Smythe was put as made the head of Oscorps Oscorp's science experiments, and always blamed Connors for the continuaton continuation of the Cross Species experiments. When the virus breaks out and Connors develops a cure, [[spoiler: he kidnaps Connors, and later reveals the reason he did so was because he didn't want the city to be saved with the solution Connors created, rather then the nanobot cocktail Smythe created.]]
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* The League of Shadows are basically this in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Years after their first attempt to destroy Gotham in ''Film/BatmanBegins'', they try again, even though their job is to destroy cities where crime rule. So they try to reinstate their plan after '''eight years''' of peace in Gotham, they decide to strike again. Gets worse when you realize that 90% of the new crime wave in Gothmam was ''their'' fault (not such a surprise given that a large part of the reason Gotham became such a WretchedHive in the first place was because of their manipulations).
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* In ''House Of Payne'', CJ becomes this when Blue, a drug dealer and BigBad of the story arc of Janine's crack addiction, seeks repentance in a church as he was dying of AIDS. When Janine and Ella work to help take care of him and pray for him, but CJ doesn't support him and gets made at Janine. At one point he goes to the church and simply says "''I don't know what your trying to prove - that man is beyond your prayers''." and walks out. He gets better when [[spoiler: Ella gives him a WhatTheHellHero speech about being a true christian, and at Blue's last moments, CJ goes to pray for Blue's repentance at Blue's bedside.]]
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* The League of Shadows are basically this in ''TheDarkKnightRises''. ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. Years after their first attempt to destroy Gotham in ''BatmanBegins'', ''Film/BatmanBegins'', they try again, even though their job is to destroy cities where crime rule. So they try to reinstate their plan after '''eight years''' of peace in Gotham, they decide to strike again. Gets worse when you realize that 90% of the new crime wave in Gothmam was ''their'' fault (not such a surprise given that a large part of the reason Gotham became such a WretchedHive in the first place was because of their manipulations).
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* The League of Shadows are basically this in ''TheDarkKnightRises''. Years after their first attempt to destroy Gotham in ''BatmanBegins'', they try again, even though their job is to destroy cities where crime rule. So they try to reinstate their plan after '''eight years''' of peace in Gotham, they decide to strike again. Gets worse when you realize that 90% of the new crime wave in Gothmam was ''their'' fault (not such a surprise given that a large part of the reason Gotham became such a HiveOfScumAndVillainy WretchedHive in the first place was because of their manipulations).
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* In one ''FamilyGuy'' episode, ''I'm With Joyce Kinney'', has the title character trying to ruin Lois's reputation by revealing that she was in a porno movie, as payback for when Lois humilated her in High School. Should be noted when Lois is forgiven, Joyce gets angry.
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So, you've got TheAtoner, he has done some bad things and regrets them. He works hard to be reddeemed and you think he's going to get support right ? Wrong there is a character, a very vidictive person who wants nothing better than to force the Atoner to wallow in his guilt.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert effort to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad,who's whose vendetta towards Angel is runs so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley truly redeeming himself.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad,
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated from God and force a DespairEventHorizon.
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated separated from God and force a them over the DespairEventHorizon.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later andManga]]the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated from God and force a DespairEventHorizon.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated from God and force a DespairEventHorizon.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated from God and force a DespairEventHorizon.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated from God and force a DespairEventHorizon.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget.
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** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/Angel'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/Angel'' ''Series/{{Angel}}'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
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* The Greek Gods of ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' are more or less this given that Athena tells Kratos that while they will forgive him for killing his family, they will never let him forget.
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* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', has the gypsies who gave Angel his soul, in retaliation for the murder of one of their own, in an effert to make him suffer eternal guilt. Generations later and the gypsies would try to make sure Angel never finds happiness, [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as him being happy will be enough to unleash his demonic split personality Angelus.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/Angel'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
** Likewise in the spinoff ''Series/Angel'' has Daniel Holtz, season three's BigBad, who's vendetta towards Angel is so deep, he actually goes as far as to erase Angel's heroic acts from recorded history and his EvilPlan was to keep Angel from truley redeeming himself.
* The TropeNamer {{Satan}} is called this. It is said when a sinner seeks repentence, that Satan would fill their hearts with guilty feelings to make them feel seperated from God and force a DespairEventHorizon.
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So, you've got TheAtoner, he has done some bad things and regrets them. He works hard to be reddeemed and you think he's going to get support right ? Wrong there is a character, a very vidictive person who wants nothing better than to force the Atoner to wallow in his guilt.
Perhaps TheAtoner was once TheDragon, and his master wants him to feel that redemption is virtually impossible, perhaps it was someone who was hurt by TheAtoner and doesn't want them to be redeemed, because they did something they find unforgivable. The former often overlaps with EvilCantComprehendGood and the latter this case usually overlaps with HeWhoFightsMonsters.
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Perhaps TheAtoner was once TheDragon, and his master wants him to feel that redemption is virtually impossible, perhaps it was someone who was hurt by TheAtoner and doesn't want them to be redeemed, because they did something they find unforgivable. The former often overlaps with EvilCantComprehendGood and the latter this case usually overlaps with HeWhoFightsMonsters.
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