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*** Noah himself has remarked that his reputation as a FanHater comes from people doing this to him, taking statements like "I didn't care for this" and interpreting it as "This sucks and so does anything who likes it". He's outright admitted that he can't enjoy things like ''FinalFantasyIX'' and ''CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' as much as he'd like because of his personal hang-ups, and said that he tried to give KristenStewart a fair chance but she just annoys the hell out of him and he doesn't think she's that good an actress.

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*** Noah himself has remarked that his reputation as a FanHater comes from people doing this to him, taking statements like "I didn't care for this" and interpreting it as "This sucks and so does anything who likes it". He's outright admitted that he can't enjoy things like ''FinalFantasyIX'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' and ''CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' as much as he'd like because of his personal hang-ups, and said that he tried to give KristenStewart a fair chance but she just annoys the hell out of him and he doesn't think she's that good an actress.
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[[folder:Live Action TV - for those plebians who like their entertainment overpriced, or spoon-fed to them in-between bouts of soulless commercialism.]]

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[[folder:Comic Books, for lonely men who haven't learned to grow up but have the money to waste on kids stuff]]stories about men in bondage gear beating each other]]



[[folder:Literature, or rather, meaningless words on meaningless paper fit for the toilet.]]

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[[folder:Theater. That thing you can't afford to go to. Or rather, go to a 'good' one of. Even if you can, I'll bet you'll be paying too much for it.]]

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[[folder:Theater. That thing you can't afford to go to. Or rather, go to a 'good' one of. Even And if you can, I'll bet you'll be do, you're paying too much for it.watching annoying people talk about annoying problems. Art, indeed.]]
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** Yahoo Answers is a good place to go to to hear this opinion being expressed - and refuted - with some heat and passion.
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* Much of the RecordedAndStandUpComedy by comedians like Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Creator/BillHicks, Doug Stanhope, DenisLeary, [[Creator/RealTimeWithBillMaher Bill Maher]], Creator/LewisBlack, and Creator/DavidCross, among others. They're all observational comedians, and [[RuleOfFunny saying the world is lovely wouldn't be particularly funny, would it?]]

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* Much of the RecordedAndStandUpComedy by comedians like Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Creator/BillHicks, Doug Stanhope, DenisLeary, [[Creator/RealTimeWithBillMaher [[Series/RealTimeWithBillMaher Bill Maher]], Creator/LewisBlack, and Creator/DavidCross, among others. They're all observational comedians, and [[RuleOfFunny saying the world is lovely wouldn't be particularly funny, would it?]]
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* Much of the RecordedAndStandUpComedy by comedians like Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Creator/BillHicks, Doug Stanhope, Dennis Leary, [[RealTimeWithBillMaher Bill Maher]], LewisBlack, and David Cross, among others. They're all observational comedians, and [[RuleOfFunny saying the world is lovely wouldn't be particularly funny, would it?]]

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* Much of the RecordedAndStandUpComedy by comedians like Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Creator/BillHicks, Doug Stanhope, Dennis Leary, [[RealTimeWithBillMaher DenisLeary, [[Creator/RealTimeWithBillMaher Bill Maher]], LewisBlack, Creator/LewisBlack, and David Cross, Creator/DavidCross, among others. They're all observational comedians, and [[RuleOfFunny saying the world is lovely wouldn't be particularly funny, would it?]]

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* ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' thrives on this trope but they also are able to be very funny [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/7/23/it-really-is-that-good/ when heaping]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/4/2/a-mech-moment-for-us/ unmitigated praise]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/10/1/ on something]].

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* ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' thrives on this trope trope, but they also are able to be very funny [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/7/23/it-really-is-that-good/ when heaping]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/4/2/a-mech-moment-for-us/ unmitigated praise]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/10/1/ on something]].



** Earlier he lists 77 reasons why ''{{Friends}}'' sucked to Zii.

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** Earlier he lists 77 reasons why ''{{Friends}}'' ''Series/{{Friends}}'' sucked to Zii.


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[[folder:Web Original, or people whining in front of a camera like idiots, or idiots whining about other idiots, or weird and perverted sites]]
* ''Website/NotAlwaysRight'' thrives on showing the bad behavior of customers.
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* And then there is the reaction from older British people who utterly loathe the American version of wrestling, which they see as over-produced, over-contrived, over-glitzy, over-glamorous, and unfortunately over here to the point of having displaced the native version from British TV screens. Like the American Army in WW2, American Wrestling is overmonied, oversexed, and over here, the grey squirrel imported from the USA and in the eyes of many, just as verminous. Older Brits look at the latest overmuscled American wunderkind shooting off at the lip, and speculate that arrogant bloody Yank wouldn't last five minutes in the ring with a ''real'' wrestler like Kendo Nagasaki or Mick McManus. Their grandchildren, WWF devotees, then say "who, Grandad?", and the oldie will sigh and say "I know it's before your time, lad, but we used to have ''real'' wrestling on TV on a Saturday afternoon on ''World of Sport''. And I'm telling you, they were 'real'' wrestlers..." and so on. Even though World of Sport belongs to the 1970's and the sort of cheap 'n' cheerful British wrestling circuit it showcased is virtually dead now, older fans still look back and sigh for the good old days.

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* And then there is the reaction from older British people who utterly loathe the American version of wrestling, which they see as over-produced, over-contrived, over-glitzy, over-glamorous, and unfortunately over here to the point of having displaced the native version from British TV screens. Like the American Army in WW2, American Wrestling is overmonied, oversexed, and over here, the grey squirrel imported from the USA and in the eyes of many, just as verminous. Older Brits look at the latest overmuscled American wunderkind shooting off at the lip, and speculate that arrogant bloody Yank wouldn't last five minutes in the ring with a ''real'' wrestler like Kendo Nagasaki or Mick McManus.[=McManus=]. Their grandchildren, WWF devotees, then say "who, Grandad?", and the oldie will sigh and say "I know it's before your time, lad, but we used to have ''real'' wrestling on TV on a Saturday afternoon on ''World of Sport''. And I'm telling you, they were 'real'' wrestlers..." and so on. Even though World of Sport belongs to the 1970's and the sort of cheap 'n' cheerful British wrestling circuit it showcased is virtually dead now, older fans still look back and sigh for the good old days.
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* [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/ The Bad Webcomic Wiki]] is entirely about this trope. Unfortunately, [[SturgeonsLaw 90% of reviews aren't much else,]] [[InternetBackdraft with its review of]] 'Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' being particularly egregious. When [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/forum/t-214853/random-person-is-john-solomon John Solomon]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people,]] thinks you're being too negative, maybe you're accentuating the negative a little ''too'' much.

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* [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/ The Bad Webcomic Wiki]] is entirely about this trope. Unfortunately, [[SturgeonsLaw 90% of reviews aren't much else,]] [[InternetBackdraft with its review of]] 'Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' being particularly egregious. When [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/forum/t-214853/random-person-is-john-solomon John Solomon]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people,]] thinks you're being too negative, maybe you're accentuating the negative a little ''too'' much.
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* [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/ The Bad Webcomic Wiki]] is entirely about this trope. Unfortunately, [[SturgeonsLaw 90% of reviews aren't much else,]] [[InternetBackdraft with its review of 'Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' being particularly egregious.]] When [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/forum/t-214853/random-person-is-john-solomon John Solomon]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people,]] thinks you being too negative, maybe you're accentuating the negative a little ''too'' much.

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* [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/ The Bad Webcomic Wiki]] is entirely about this trope. Unfortunately, [[SturgeonsLaw 90% of reviews aren't much else,]] [[InternetBackdraft with its review of of]] 'Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'' being particularly egregious.]] egregious. When [[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/forum/t-214853/random-person-is-john-solomon John Solomon]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people,]] thinks you you're being too negative, maybe you're accentuating the negative a little ''too'' much.
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** Website/SomethingAwful has interforum rivalry where everything coming from the all purpose forum GBS is hated by the subforums, and everything else is hated by PYF, but the one thing SA loves to hate ''especially'' is FYAD (SomethingAwful's /b/), where it's not uncommon to have the disparate arguers of a thread team up to wail on the FYAD-er. 4chan has the same issue.

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** Website/SomethingAwful has interforum rivalry where everything coming from the all purpose forum GBS is hated by the subforums, and everything else is hated by PYF, but the one thing SA loves to hate ''especially'' is FYAD (SomethingAwful's /b/), where it's not uncommon to have the disparate arguers of a thread team up to wail on the FYAD-er.FYAD-er... and, oftentimes, vice versa. 4chan has the same issue.
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* The abridged movie scripts on TheEditingRoom condense movie scripts into a few minutes' worth of material with [[HilarityEnsues hilarious results]]. As in many of the above examples, this is done purely for [[RuleOfFunny humor's sake]] and the site's author provides a separate star rating indicating what he ''actually'' thought of a movie.

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* The abridged movie scripts on TheEditingRoom condense movie scripts into a few minutes' worth of material with [[HilarityEnsues hilarious results]]. sarcasm, nitpicking, and ripping apart cliches and bad artistic designs. As in many of the above examples, this is done purely for [[RuleOfFunny humor's sake]] and the site's author provides a separate star rating indicating what he ''actually'' thought of a movie.movie - which tends to be pretty harsh.
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* The (now-apparently dead) [[http://stuffgeekslove.wordpress.com/ Stuff Geeks Love]] is dedicated to exposing the geek subculture for the WretchedHive of racism, sexism, homophobia & [[PsychopathicManchild dangerous mental degeneracy]] it apparently is. Amusing for both its dead-accuracy as regards some people all geeks know (That One Guy), and for its slamming of them.

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* The (now-apparently dead) [[http://stuffgeekslove.wordpress.com/ Stuff Geeks Love]] is dedicated to exposing the geek subculture for the WretchedHive of racism, sexism, homophobia & [[PsychopathicManchild dangerous mental degeneracy]] it apparently is. Amusing for both its dead-accuracy as regards some people all geeks know (That One Guy), and for its slamming of them.
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** The new madeover incarnation of DrWho attracts snark from a significant minority of older people who fondly remember the original 1960's and 1970's series. To them, the New Who is too glossy, soul-less, over-produced, evidently made for the bloody Americans, it was at its best in the Patrick Troughton/Tom Baker/Peter Davison years, why can't we have it back as it was before, yes we ''KNOW'' the aliens were risible and the sets wobbled, but it was so bloody ''good'', especially when DouglasAdams wrote the scripts, why didn't they leave well alone, et c et c.

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** The new madeover incarnation of DrWho attracts snark from a significant minority of older people who fondly remember the original 1960's and 1970's series. To them, the New Who is too glossy, soul-less, over-produced, evidently made for the bloody Americans, it was at its best in the Patrick Troughton/Tom Baker/Peter Davison years, why can't we have it back as it was before, yes we ''KNOW'' the aliens were risible and the sets wobbled, but it was so bloody ''good'', especially when DouglasAdams wrote the scripts, why didn't they leave well alone, et c et c.etc., etc.
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* ''TheMuppetShow''' StatlerAndWaldorf has this as their shtick.

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* ''TheMuppetShow''' ''TheMuppetShow'''s StatlerAndWaldorf has this as their shtick.
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** There are some truly wonderful comics in DC's ''{{New 52}}'' relaunch. But the one everyone heard about was issue one of "Red Hood and the Outlaws". And even that was only because of some poorly thought out changes in the character of Starfire - changes that occupy maybe three pages out of the entire issue.
*** When the art for the tenth issue was released, there was even more complaining. Even though it has Starfire in a position of power (Commanding a spaceship) and fully clothed , HER BOOBS WERE TOO BIG!

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** * There are some truly wonderful comics in DC's ''{{New 52}}'' relaunch. But the one everyone heard about was issue one of "Red Hood and the Outlaws". And even that was only because of some poorly thought out changes in the character of Starfire - changes that occupy maybe three pages out of the entire issue.
*** ** When the art for the tenth issue was released, there was even more complaining. Even though it has Starfire in a position of power (Commanding a spaceship) and fully clothed , HER BOOBS WERE TOO BIG!
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** Of course the jobs being lost by high costs makes the employees worse off than before.
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** It doesn't help that he actually looks '''younger''' in the new season than when he started.
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* Jim Adam wrote a [[SeriousBusiness 160-page]] essay on how the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books fail to live up to their promise. Though there are a few good points, most of it is complaining about Harry not being a GodModeStu.

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* Jim Adam wrote a [[SeriousBusiness 160-page]] essay on how the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books fail to live up to their promise. Though there are a few good points, most of it is complaining about Harry not being a GodModeStu.[[GodModeSue God Mode Stu]].
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* Microsoft's XboxOne has been a target of this since its reveal in May 2013, mostly as the result of an InternetCounterattack.

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* Microsoft's XboxOne has been a target of this since its reveal in May 2013, mostly as the result of an InternetCounterattack. Heck, if the Xbox One's [[YMMV/XBoxOne YMMV section]] is any indication...
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*Microsoft's XboxOne has been a target of this since its reveal in May 2013, mostly as the result of an InternetCounterattack.
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* Comicbook/AvengersArena has had this from the day it was announced, people calling it {{gorn}} and disgustingly violent. This was before anyone read a page.
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** Yahtzee has also pointed out many times that just because he blasts every game he reviews with both barrels, he doesn't exactly he hates it (unless he hates a game so much that he tears it a new one). Yahtzee has also gone out of his way to say that just because he doesn't like something doesn't mean that it is a bad game and that people should be able to form their own opinions.
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* ''WrestleCrap'''s slogan is, "The worst in [[ProfessionalWrestling wrestling]] is here!" and boy, do they live up to it. The tone varies by subject, from light-hearted jabbing to completely hateful ranting, but, with the exception of the ''Rewriting The Book'' section, it's always negative. Despite their negativity (or perhaps because of the good humor they show about it most of the time), they've managed to gain quite the following in the wrestling industry, and even managed to get an audio interview with one of their most common targets, Vince Russo.
* The so-called Website/YouTube [[InNameOnly "shooters"]] (intentionally put in quotes, because they're not in the wrestling business), like Bill & Doug (aka [=RVDTito4Life=]) and Kent Jones, who love to praise {{TNA}} and bash anything that's not TNA, like the Wrestling/{{WWE}} or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor ROH]].

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* ''WrestleCrap'''s ''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}'''s slogan is, "The worst in [[ProfessionalWrestling wrestling]] is here!" and boy, do they live up to it. The tone varies by subject, from light-hearted jabbing to completely hateful ranting, but, with the exception of the ''Rewriting The Book'' section, it's always negative. Despite their negativity (or perhaps because of the good humor they show about it most of the time), they've managed to gain quite the following in the wrestling industry, and even managed to get an audio interview with one of their most common targets, Vince Russo.
Wrestling/VinceRusso.
* The so-called Website/YouTube [[InNameOnly "shooters"]] (intentionally put in quotes, because they're not in the wrestling business), like Bill & Doug (aka [=RVDTito4Life=]) and Kent Jones, who love to praise {{TNA}} Wrestling/{{TNA}} and bash anything that's not TNA, like the Wrestling/{{WWE}} or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor ROH]].
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* HGWells, in his late 19th century work of science-fiction, ''Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds'', had the all-destroying alien tripods land in London at least partly with the intention of having them reduce his home districts of London, Woking and Bromley, to smouldering corpse-heavy rubble. Wells utterly despised Bromley for its parochial mentality and its lower-middle-class smug smallmindedness. He also wanted to get even for long, soul-destroying thirteen hour days spent in a miserable Mac-job working for a tiny-minded bully. Although today's Woking, London, boasts a statue of an alien tripod on the main street, to commemorate Well's vision...

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* HGWells, Creator/HGWells, in his late 19th century work of science-fiction, ''Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds'', had the all-destroying alien tripods land in London at least partly with the intention of having them reduce his home districts of London, Woking and Bromley, to smouldering corpse-heavy rubble. Wells utterly despised Bromley for its parochial mentality and its lower-middle-class smug smallmindedness. He also wanted to get even for long, soul-destroying thirteen hour days spent in a miserable Mac-job working for a tiny-minded bully. Although today's Woking, London, boasts a statue of an alien tripod on the main street, to commemorate Well's vision...



* When humor columnist Dave Barry issued his "bad song survey," the idea of which was to ask his readers to vote for the worst song of all time, he received a greater amount of reader mail than ever before (the winner, incidentally, was "[[DonnaSummer MacArthur Park]]"). The result of this was his writing and publishing of a book entitled ''Dave Barry's Book of Bad Songs'', which consists entirely of him bashing songs he and his readers hate.

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* When humor columnist Dave Barry issued his "bad song survey," the idea of which was to ask his readers to vote for the worst song of all time, he received a greater amount of reader mail than ever before (the winner, incidentally, was "[[DonnaSummer "[[Music/DonnaSummer MacArthur Park]]"). The result of this was his writing and publishing of a book entitled ''Dave Barry's Book of Bad Songs'', which consists entirely of him bashing songs he and his readers hate.
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* Much of the StandUpComedy by comedians like Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Creator/BillHicks, Doug Stanhope, Dennis Leary, [[RealTimeWithBillMaher Bill Maher]], LewisBlack, and David Cross, among others. They're all observational comedians, and [[RuleOfFunny saying the world is lovely wouldn't be particularly funny, would it?]]
* Most fans enjoy ''MST3K'' for its [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealistic and fun]] atmosphere, despite the central tenet being one of mocking, sometimes quite brutally, bad movies. The fact that it is of such quality means that it rarely goes from "funny-mean" to just "mean", though it became more common to do so in later seasons.

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* Much of the StandUpComedy RecordedAndStandUpComedy by comedians like Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Creator/BillHicks, Doug Stanhope, Dennis Leary, [[RealTimeWithBillMaher Bill Maher]], LewisBlack, and David Cross, among others. They're all observational comedians, and [[RuleOfFunny saying the world is lovely wouldn't be particularly funny, would it?]]
* Most fans enjoy ''MST3K'' ''Series/MysteryScienceTheatre3000'' for its [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism idealistic and fun]] atmosphere, despite the central tenet being one of mocking, sometimes quite brutally, bad movies. The fact that it is of such quality means that it rarely goes from "funny-mean" to just "mean", though it became more common to do so in later seasons.
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* Aging. People constantly complain about the problems that come with aging (health complications, cultural expectations and stereotypes, etc.), but very few mention the positive aspects of getting older (increased maturity, increased wisdom, improved social skills, higher personal status, etc.).
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** AdalRamones is another good example. His monologues are basically taking this trope UpToEleven.
* Although it's definitely possible to avert this - Michael [=MacIntyre=] has become very successful with an observational style that's more about poking gentle fun at the absurdities of human behavior, for example.
* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' and ''Series/TheColbertReport'' also manage to do sharp satire without being overly cynical (e.g. the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear).
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** ''SiliconKnights'' get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman a game]] that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over-exaggerations about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human was shit and therefore so will Destiny be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.
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* Similar to ''New 52'', ''MarvelNOW'' has produced some wonderful new books, and even some of the worst are still mostly SoOkayItsAverage. Still, [[spoiler: Doc Ock killed Spider-Man and stole his life, while Cyclops, while possessed by a corrupted Phoenix Force, killed Charles Xavier and is now trying to redeem himself by doing whatever's unnecessary to protect mutants]], so many refuse to pick up any title until the whole thing is retconned out.

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