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13th Jun '16 2:32:48 PM MarkLungo
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* This exchange from ''Series/DoctorWho: [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol A Christmas Carol]]'':

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* This exchange from ''Series/DoctorWho: [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol [[Recap/DoctorWho2010CSAChristmasCarol A Christmas Carol]]'':



** The new madeover incarnation of ''Doctor Who'' attracts snark from a significant minority of older people who fondly remember the original 1960's and 1970's series. To them, the New Who is too glossy, soul-less, over-produced, evidently made for the bloody Americans, it was at its best in the Patrick Troughton/Tom Baker/Peter Davison years, why can't we have it back as it was before, yes we ''KNOW'' the aliens were risible and the sets wobbled, but it was so bloody ''good'', especially when Creator/DouglasAdams wrote the scripts, why didn't they leave well alone, etc., etc.
*** Which actually demonstrates a subversion of this trope. Douglas Adams story-edited one season of ''Series/DoctorWho'', and it's considered to be one of the worst seasons of the series. However it contained City Of Death, which is considered to be one of the best episodes of either incarnation of the series. Yet people tend to have a cheery view of the time Douglas Adams spent on Doctor Who.
** Classic Who can get this a lot. For example, a lot of people think the companions were one-dimensional women whose main quality was screaming a lot. However many companions had strong and interesting personalities and people basically just remember the worst moments and qualities of companions. The first adult female companion on the whole show was a strong yet feminine female character who used her brain, got her hands dirty and shared one of the most profound Doctor/companion relationships with her Doctor, one that [[TookALevelInKindness set the precedent for his entire personality]] as well as did horrible damage to his mental health when she left it.

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** The new madeover incarnation of ''Doctor Who'' attracts snark from a significant minority of older people who fondly remember the original 1960's and 1970's series. To them, the New Who is too glossy, soul-less, over-produced, evidently made for the bloody Americans, it was at its best in the Patrick Troughton/Tom Baker/Peter Davison Creator/PatrickTroughton[=/=]Creator/Tom Baker[=/=]Creator/PeterDavison years, why can't we have it back as it was before, yes we ''KNOW'' the aliens were risible and the sets wobbled, but it was so bloody ''good'', especially when Creator/DouglasAdams wrote the scripts, why didn't they leave well alone, etc., etc.
*** Which actually demonstrates a subversion of this trope. Douglas Adams story-edited one season of ''Series/DoctorWho'', and it's considered to be one of the worst seasons of the series. However it contained "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E2CityOfDeath City Of Death, of Death]]", which is considered to be one of the best episodes of either incarnation of the series. Yet people tend to have a cheery view of the time Douglas Adams spent on Doctor Who.
''Doctor Who''.
** Classic Who ''Who'' can get this a lot. For example, a lot of people think the companions were one-dimensional women whose main quality was [[ScreamingWoman screaming a lot.lot]]. However many companions had strong and interesting personalities and people basically just remember the worst moments and qualities of companions. The first adult female companion on the whole show was a strong yet feminine female character who used her brain, got her hands dirty and shared one of the most profound Doctor/companion relationships with her Doctor, one that [[TookALevelInKindness set the precedent for his entire personality]] as well as did horrible damage to his mental health when she left it.



* In ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "One Breath", Melissa Scully calls Mulder out for doing this while trying to convince him to go to the hospital to see Dana, who is dying:

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* In ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "One Breath", "[[Recap/TheXFilesS02E08OneBreath One Breath]]", Melissa Scully calls Mulder out for doing this while trying to convince him to go to the hospital to see Dana, who is dying:



* There are lot of bands who made a career out of writing gloomy, depressing or melancholic lyrics. Especially in the ''goth'' genre.

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* There are lot of bands who made a career out of writing gloomy, depressing or melancholic lyrics. Especially in the ''goth'' {{Goth}} genre.



* ''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon'', as expected with a name like that. Posts daily to rip on the newspaper funnies. Notable in that as rough as it is on comics as a whole, it has managed to establish good relationships with the creators of many of these comics, especially Bob Weber Jr. of ''Slylock Fox'' and the late Al Scaduto of ''They'll Do It Every Time''. Also notable in that it occasionally does praise elements of the comics that it normally mocks. Occasionally.
** He has even been referenced within said comics. Such as one of his running gags being on a T-Shirt in "Archie", and outright insulted by the (late) creator of "Crock", and was (In a more affectionate way) featured as a criminal standing trial in "Jumble"

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* ''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon'', as expected with a name like that. Posts daily to rip on the newspaper funnies. Notable in that as rough as it is on comics as a whole, it has managed to establish good relationships with the creators of many of these comics, especially Bob Weber Jr. of ''Slylock Fox'' ''ComicStrip/SlylockFox'' and the late Al Scaduto of ''They'll Do It Every Time''. Also notable in that it occasionally does praise elements of the comics that it normally mocks. Occasionally.
** He has even been referenced within said comics. Such as one of his running gags being on a T-Shirt in "Archie", ''[[Franchse/ArchieComics Archie]]'', and outright insulted by the (late) creator of "Crock", ''Crock'', and was (In a more affectionate way) featured as a criminal standing trial in "Jumble" ''Jumble''.



** Unfortunately for Noah this has backfired, as he tends to get viewed as a {{Troll}} even when he's offering an honest (if negative) opinion. When he went on Twitter to say he didn't like ''Film/TheCabinInTheWoods,'' Creator/JossWhedon fans jumped on him, assuming he was specifically trying to screw with them.
*** Noah himself has remarked that his reputation as a FanHater comes from people doing this to ''him'', taking statements like "I didn't care for this" and interpreting it as "This sucks and so does anything who likes it". He's outright admitted that he can't enjoy things like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' as much as he'd like because of his own personal hang-ups, and said that he tried to give KristenStewart a fair chance but she just annoys the hell out of him and he doesn't think she's that good an actress.

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** Unfortunately for Noah this has backfired, as he tends to get viewed as a {{Troll}} even when he's offering an honest (if negative) opinion. When he went on Twitter Website/{{Twitter}} to say he didn't like ''Film/TheCabinInTheWoods,'' Creator/JossWhedon fans jumped on him, assuming he was specifically trying to screw with them.
*** Noah himself has remarked that his reputation as a FanHater comes from people doing this to ''him'', taking statements like "I didn't care for this" and interpreting it as "This sucks and so does anything anyone who likes it". He's outright admitted that he can't enjoy things like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' as much as he'd like because of his own personal hang-ups, and said that he tried to give KristenStewart Creator/KristenStewart a fair chance but she just annoys the hell out of him and he doesn't think she's that good an actress.



* WebVideo/JesuOtaku, similar to Spoony, often takes controversial opinions (believing the eponymous character of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is a DesignatedHero and a "cunt" comparable to Anakin Skywalker in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels, declaring WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} on the level of Nick Jr., celebrating ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice's'' cancellation, and general vitriol directed at fanbases he dislikes) and runs with them. Unlike Spoony, he has a genuine dislike of what he makes fun of.

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* WebVideo/JesuOtaku, similar to Spoony, often takes controversial opinions (believing the eponymous character of ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is a DesignatedHero and a "cunt" comparable to Anakin Skywalker in the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels, declaring WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' on the level of Nick Jr., celebrating ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice's'' cancellation, and general vitriol directed at fanbases he dislikes) and runs with them. Unlike Spoony, he has a genuine dislike of what he makes fun of.



* ''Website/{{Cracked}}.com's'' articles consist mainly (but, of course, not completely) of movie bashings, doomsday scenarios and explanations of "Why Good Thing X is actually a very Bad Thing". Ironically the other half is exactly the opposite of this, gushing stories about how awesome the world is.

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* ''Website/{{Cracked}}.com's'' articles consist mainly (but, of course, not completely) of movie bashings, doomsday scenarios and explanations of "Why Good Thing X is actually a very Bad Thing". Ironically the other half is exactly the opposite of this, gushing stories about [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome how awesome the world is.is]].



* The [[http://www.cartoonbrew.com/ animation news site]] Blog/CartoonBrew tends to do this a lot, especially with anything Disney or Dreamworks. This borders on FanDumb territory with the article bashing ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' for using a parody of the double rainbow, conveniently forgetting the time ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' parodied the same exact video in an ad.

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* The [[http://www.cartoonbrew.com/ animation news site]] Blog/CartoonBrew tends to do this a lot, especially with anything Disney from Creator/{{Disney}} or Dreamworks.Creator/DreamworksAnimation. This borders on FanDumb territory with the article bashing ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' for using a parody of the double rainbow, conveniently forgetting the time ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' parodied the same exact video in an ad.



* [[http://screamsheet.wordpress.com The Screamsheet]] has a lot of this trope, especially if the site owner gets talking about Creator/DavidLynch, ''Highlander'', or bad comics in general. He has apparently made more of an attempt to give credit where it is due and focus on the positive aspects of the things he discusses, but still does plenty of ranting and raving.

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* [[http://screamsheet.wordpress.com The Screamsheet]] has a lot of this trope, especially if the site owner gets talking about Creator/DavidLynch, ''Highlander'', ''Franchise/{{Highlander}}'', or bad comics in general. He has apparently made more of an attempt to give credit where it is due and focus on the positive aspects of the things he discusses, but still does plenty of ranting and raving.



* DownloadableContent. It's the modern ExpansionPack and it is well received for those that want to get some more content to their favorite game(s). But you wouldn't know that with all the InternetBackdraft on it, with quite a few claiming them; regardless of the actual content, as "overpriced cash cows hidden on the disc waiting to be unlocked."
** Keep in mind, these complaints were flowing freely ''before'' Capcom did one of their infamous moves [[note]] Capcom during the release of Street Fighter 4, caught some infamy when hackers found out that all DLC was already on disc and had to be purchased to unlocked, serving as a money based DoubleUnlock. This has become slightly more frequent with certain games now, but not by much [[/note]].

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* DownloadableContent. It's the modern ExpansionPack and it is well received for those that who want to get some more content to their favorite game(s). But you wouldn't know that with all the InternetBackdraft on it, with quite a few claiming them; regardless of the actual content, as "overpriced cash cows hidden on the disc waiting to be unlocked."
** Keep in mind, these complaints were flowing freely ''before'' Capcom Creator/{{Capcom}} did one of their infamous moves [[note]] Capcom during the release of Street Fighter 4, ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIV'', caught some infamy when hackers found out that all DLC was already on disc and had to be purchased to unlocked, serving as a money based DoubleUnlock. This has become slightly more frequent with certain games now, but not by much [[/note]].



** Creator/SiliconKnights get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman a game]] that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''VideoGame/XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over exaggerations about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human was shit and therefore so will Destiny be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.

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** Creator/SiliconKnights get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman ''VideoGame/TooHuman'', a game]] game that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''VideoGame/XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over exaggerations about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human ''Too Human'' was shit and therefore so will Destiny ''Destiny'' be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human ''Too Human'' wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.



* Anything released by Activision and VideoGame/ElectronicArts now. Mainly because most of what you see from either publisher is their well-over-known games, like ''Call of Duty'' or ''Battlefield.'' That and because both publishers have been known to have incredibly pricy downloadable content, because MoneyDearBoy.

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* Anything released by Activision Creator/{{Activision}} and VideoGame/ElectronicArts Creator/ElectronicArts now. Mainly because most of what you see from either publisher is their well-over-known games, like ''Call of Duty'' ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' or ''Battlefield.'' ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}''. That and because both publishers have been known to have incredibly pricy downloadable content, because MoneyDearBoy.



* WebVideo/AitorMolinaVs the first episode of Manga/{{Bleach}}.
** UpToEleven when he talks about [[VeteALaVersh Darkar]] or Elrubius.
* WebVideo/NonBronyCommentary: Baglady really, really hates MLP.

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* WebVideo/AitorMolinaVs ''WebVideo/AitorMolinaVs'' the first episode of Manga/{{Bleach}}.
''Manga/{{Bleach}}''.
** UpToEleven when he talks about [[VeteALaVersh [[WebAnimation/VeteALaVersh Darkar]] or Elrubius.
* WebVideo/NonBronyCommentary: ''WebVideo/NonBronyCommentary'': Baglady really, really hates MLP.''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''.



* In ''LetsPlay/LetsDrownOut'' Grand Theft Auto', Gabriel stated that he did not trust Yahtzee's ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' reviews due to its cynical nature, which Yahtzee admitted that it was a bit of an exaggeration and stated that he likes ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'' to prove said statement.

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* In ''LetsPlay/LetsDrownOut'' Grand Theft Auto', ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'', Gabriel stated that he did not trust Yahtzee's ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' reviews due to its cynical nature, which Yahtzee admitted that it was a bit of an exaggeration and stated that he likes ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'' to prove said statement.



Is that all? They didn't even mention my favourite show!

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[[TheStinger Is that all? all?]] [[HypocriticalHumor They didn't even mention my favourite show!show!]]
2nd Jun '16 1:04:09 PM Morgenthaler
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* OlderThanFeudalism: The Greek playwright {{Aristophanes}} was pretty fond of this, too, ruthlessly satirizing the philosophers and politicians of his day.

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* OlderThanFeudalism: The Greek playwright {{Aristophanes}} Creator/{{Aristophanes}} was pretty fond of this, too, ruthlessly satirizing the philosophers and politicians of his day.
10th Apr '16 3:29:57 PM aye_amber
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* World Famous Flea Market, hosted by "Hot" Johnny August and Ross "I'm Drunk" Vegas, is a youtube series that does this to backyard and extra-cheap indy "wrestling" matches. They rarely have anything good to say about the matches they show, and often come to regret it when they do. They also mock Wrestling/ScottHall in the form of a drinking game called "Drinking With The Bad Guy", in which you take shots after certain moments, such as working the wrong (in this case right) side of the opponent, which is accompanied by a voice clip of Scott Hall going "Hey Yo".

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* World Famous Flea Market, hosted by "Hot" Johnny August and Ross "I'm Drunk" Vegas, is a youtube series that does this to backyard and extra-cheap indy "wrestling" matches. They rarely have anything good to say about the matches they show, and often come to regret it when they do. They also mock Wrestling/ScottHall in the form of a drinking game called "Drinking With The with the Bad Guy", Guy," in which you take shots after certain moments, such as working the wrong (in this case right) side of the opponent, which is accompanied by a voice clip of Scott Hall going "Hey Yo".Yo."



** Keep in mind, these complaints were flowing freely ''before'' Capcom did one of their infamous moves [[note]]Capcom during the release of Street Fighter 4, caught some infamy when hackers found out that all DLC was already on disc and had to be purchased to unlocked, serving as a money based DoubleUnlock. This has become slightly more frequent with certain games now, but not by much[[/note]].
* In an in-universe and comedic example, Francis from ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'', who will proclaim [[MadLibsCatchPhrase "I hate (blank)!"]] several times throughout the game. The list of things he actually likes includes vests, steam, Jimmy Gibbs Jr.'s stock car, Music/DepecheMode, and Rochelle from the second game. The list of things he hates is...[[http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Francis#Hatred_of_Everything considerably larger.]]

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** Keep in mind, these complaints were flowing freely ''before'' Capcom did one of their infamous moves [[note]]Capcom [[note]] Capcom during the release of Street Fighter 4, caught some infamy when hackers found out that all DLC was already on disc and had to be purchased to unlocked, serving as a money based DoubleUnlock. This has become slightly more frequent with certain games now, but not by much[[/note]].
much [[/note]].
* In an in-universe and comedic example, Francis from ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'', ''VideoGame/Left4Dead,'' who will proclaim [[MadLibsCatchPhrase "I hate (blank)!"]] several times throughout the game. The list of things he actually likes includes vests, steam, Jimmy Gibbs Jr.'s stock car, Music/DepecheMode, and Rochelle from the second game. The list of things he hates is...[[http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Francis#Hatred_of_Everything considerably larger.]]



** Creator/SiliconKnights get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman a game]] that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''VideoGame/XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over exaggeration about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human was shit and therefore so will Destiny be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.

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** Creator/SiliconKnights get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman a game]] that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''VideoGame/XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over exaggeration exaggerations about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human was shit and therefore so will Destiny be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.
10th Apr '16 3:20:18 PM aye_amber
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* Creator/JoeQuesada later commented that some people were so negative of his and Creator/BillJemas run in charge of Creator/MarvelComics that even if they had given away free milk and cookies with every comic, they would've been accused of trying to kill readers with dairy allergy.

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* Creator/JoeQuesada later commented that some people were so negative of his and Creator/BillJemas ''Bill Jemas'' run in charge of Creator/MarvelComics that even if they had given away free milk and cookies with every comic, they would've been accused of trying to kill readers with dairy allergy.



** Not to mention, even though he really trashes and bashes movies, some of them he actually ''does'' legitimately like despite their flaws and cliches (''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' and ''Film/CoolRunnings''), and in some of his videos, mentions there are some things they did ''right'' at the end of the review. [[note]]He's stated that some movies have a lot of good intentions, loves to point out nice animation or well done shots, finds the "stuff" in ''Film/WaterWorld'' to work because it makes the world seem more plausible, and ha been known to outright praise good use of music.[[/note]]

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** Not to mention, even though he really trashes and bashes movies, some of them he actually ''does'' legitimately like despite their flaws and cliches (''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' and ''Film/CoolRunnings''), and in some of his videos, mentions there are some things they did ''right'' at the end of the review. [[note]]He's [[note]] He's stated that some movies have a lot of good intentions, loves to point out nice animation or well done shots, finds the "stuff" in ''Film/WaterWorld'' to work because it makes the world seem more plausible, and ha been known to outright praise good use of music.music. [[/note]]



* Noah Antwiler, aka "Spoony One", is the star of ''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment'', which is basically Angry Video Game Nerd if he were more {{Fan Hater}}y and less tongue-in-cheek. He does at least take everything in fun, and has a overlap in fandom with the Nerd.
** Unfortunately for Noah this has backfired, as he tends to get viewed as a {{Troll}} even when he's offering an honest (if negative) opinion. When he went on Twitter to say he didn't like ''Film/TheCabinInTheWoods'', Creator/JossWhedon fans jumped on him, assuming he was specifically trying to screw with them.

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* Noah Antwiler, aka "Spoony One", is the star of ''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment'', ''WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment,'' which is basically Angry Video Game Nerd if he were more {{Fan Hater}}y and less tongue-in-cheek. He does at least take everything in fun, and has a overlap in fandom with the Nerd.
** Unfortunately for Noah this has backfired, as he tends to get viewed as a {{Troll}} even when he's offering an honest (if negative) opinion. When he went on Twitter to say he didn't like ''Film/TheCabinInTheWoods'', ''Film/TheCabinInTheWoods,'' Creator/JossWhedon fans jumped on him, assuming he was specifically trying to screw with them.



* This is EGM game reviewer Creator/{{Seanbaby}}'s preferred method of reviewing, since he specifically seeks out bad games, mixed with TestosteronePoisoning and exaggerated metaphors. When one review of his was devoted solely to [[http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/karnaajrally.htm mocking the box art of a popular game]], people sent in letters demanding that he actually review the game itself. Seanbaby's response was "My review is done: the box isn't very good. If I knew how to review a game based on gameplay mechanics or whatever, me and my Gamecube wouldn't be forced to watch puppets shit every month."

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* This is EGM game reviewer Creator/{{Seanbaby}}'s preferred method of reviewing, since he specifically seeks out bad games, mixed with TestosteronePoisoning and exaggerated metaphors. When one review of his was devoted solely to [[http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/karnaajrally.htm mocking the box art of a popular game]], game,]] people sent in letters demanding that he actually review the game itself. Seanbaby's response was was: "My review is done: the The box isn't very good. If I knew how to review a game based on gameplay mechanics or whatever, me and my Gamecube wouldn't be forced to watch puppets shit every month."



* The biggest reason to watch Yahtzee's ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' reviews is to listen to a [[TheMeanBrit Mean Brit]] [[MotorMouth talk very fast]] about games he hates. There ''are'' some games he enjoys unreservedly, like ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}''. With ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'', he showed mild shock and disgust with ''himself'' for loving it so completely, and his ''Psychonauts'' review consisted of 40% [[ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow insulting the people who didn't buy it]], 20% bashing ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' and [[FanHater anyone that plays it]], 20% complaining that there aren't more original intellectual properties like this, and 20% actual praise. Not so surprisingly, he is a frequenter of the Website/SomethingAwful boards. Heck, he'll even do it to games he likes, like ''VideoGame/BioShock1'', ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty4'', and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI''! At one point he actually said "There are a few nitpicks I could make but I wouldn't be the critic I like to think I am if I didn't pick nits like an amphetamine-fueled chimp" so he pretty much bound to the formula. As he put it, "[[RuleOfFunny It's not very funny to like a game.]]"
** Yahtzee has also pointed out many times that just because he blasts every game he reviews with both barrels, he doesn't exactly hate it (unless he hates a game so much that he tears it a new one). Yahtzee has also gone out of his way to say that just because he doesn't like something doesn't mean that it is a bad game and that people should be able to form their own opinions, and that he only points out things he didn't like or found bad in his review - anything he didn't mention shouldn't count against the game.
* ''[[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/elders-of-zion-archives Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad]]''. While it did contain constructive criticism, the site absolutely ''hated'' the comics it reviewed and also bragged about hating the entire ''concept'' of a webcomic; it was not [[AffectionateParody affectionate]] or fannish in the least. Was it horrible or hilarious? ''You'' decide!

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* The biggest reason to watch Yahtzee's ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' reviews is to listen to a [[TheMeanBrit Mean Brit]] [[MotorMouth talk very fast]] about games he hates. There ''are'' some games he enjoys unreservedly, like ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}''. With ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'', he showed mild shock and disgust with ''himself'' for loving it so completely, and his ''Psychonauts'' review consisted of 40% [[ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow insulting the people who didn't buy it]], 20% bashing ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' and [[FanHater anyone that plays it]], 20% complaining that there aren't more original intellectual properties like this, and 20% actual praise. Not so surprisingly, he is a frequenter of the Website/SomethingAwful boards. Heck, he'll even do it to games he likes, like ''VideoGame/BioShock1'', ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty4'', ''VideoGame/BioShock1,'' ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty4,'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI''! ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI!'' At one point he actually said "There are a few nitpicks I could make but I wouldn't be the critic I like to think I am if I didn't pick nits like an amphetamine-fueled chimp" so he pretty much bound to the formula. As he put it, "[[RuleOfFunny It's not very funny to like a game.]]"
** Yahtzee has also pointed out many times that just because he blasts every game he reviews with both barrels, he doesn't exactly hate it (unless he hates a game so much that he tears it a new one). Yahtzee has also gone out of his way to say that just because he doesn't like something doesn't mean that it is a bad game and that people should be able to form their own opinions, and that he only points out things he didn't like or found bad in his review - -- anything he didn't mention shouldn't count against the game.
* ''[[http://badwebcomics.wikidot.com/elders-of-zion-archives Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad]]''. Bad.]]'' While it did contain constructive criticism, the site absolutely ''hated'' the comics it reviewed and also bragged about hating the entire ''concept'' of a webcomic; it was not [[AffectionateParody affectionate]] or fannish in the least. Was it horrible or hilarious? ''You'' decide!



* The operators of www.anti-shurtugal.com, an anti-fansite for ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'', founded the site because they discovered that they couldn't say anything critical about the books on the fansites without getting flamed, banned, and/or threatened. So they founded their own site explicitly to point out every single flaw with the books. They eventually added ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' to the list of literature they hate. The website is now curiously defunct.

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* The operators of www.anti-shurtugal.com, an anti-fansite for ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'', ''Literature/InheritanceCycle,'' founded the site because they discovered that they couldn't say anything critical about the books on the fansites without getting flamed, banned, and/or threatened. So they founded their own site explicitly to point out every single flaw with the books. They eventually added ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' to the list of literature they hate. The website is now curiously defunct.



* Most websites related to the "New Games Journalism" movement, especially heart of darkness [[http://www.insert-credit.com Insert Credit]] and ESPECIALLY its {{SpiritualSuccessor}}s [[http://www.actionbutton.net Action Button Dot Net]] and [[http://www.insomnia.ac Insomnia]]. Even positive reviews frequently go off into tangents [[TakeThat brutally bashing]] other games, the people who play them, or just about anyone who doesn't agree with the writer's opinion.

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* Most websites related to the "New Games Journalism" movement, especially heart of darkness [[http://www.insert-credit.com Insert Credit]] and ESPECIALLY its {{SpiritualSuccessor}}s {{Spiritual Successor}}s [[http://www.actionbutton.net Action Button Dot Net]] and [[http://www.insomnia.ac Insomnia]]. Even positive reviews frequently go off into tangents [[TakeThat brutally bashing]] other games, the people who play them, or just about anyone who doesn't agree with the writer's opinion.



* Creator/SeanMalstrom does this all the time, with his highly negative opinions on [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 every]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine 3D]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Mario]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 game]], as well as everything [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Yoshio Sakamoto]] touches, being some of the most notorious.

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* Creator/SeanMalstrom does this all the time, with his highly negative opinions on [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 every]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine 3D]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Mario]] [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 game]], game,]] as well as everything [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Yoshio Sakamoto]] touches, being some of the most notorious.



* Jim Adam wrote a [[SeriousBusiness 160-page]] essay on how the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books fail to live up to their promise. Though there are a few good points, most of it is complaining about Harry not being a [[GodModeSue God Mode Stu]].

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* Jim Adam wrote a [[SeriousBusiness 160-page]] essay on how the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books fail to live up to their promise. Though there are a few good points, most of it is complaining about Harry not being a [[GodModeSue God Mode Stu]].Stu.]]



* This is the main draw of Blog/DasSporking. The sporkers pick apart fanfiction, published literature, and even ''ComicBook/ChickTracts'', going into detail about what's done wrong with them. Although if something is done right, that will be pointed out as well.

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* This is the main draw of Blog/DasSporking. The sporkers pick apart fanfiction, published literature, and even ''ComicBook/ChickTracts'', ''ComicBook/ChickTracts,'' going into detail about what's done wrong with them. Although if something is done right, that will be pointed out as well.



* This is the basic premise of ''WebVideo/MusicalHell'', which identifies and punishes the “sins” of bad film musicals. And then inverts it with the “Saving Grace,” which highlights positive elements that shine out in spite of the rest of the film.
* Parodied in ''WebVideo/ThirdRateGamer'', where he'll very often nitpick minor details that have little to do with the game.
* ''WebVideo/SomeJerkWithACamera'' sometimes does this, such as with ''Disney/TheCountryBears'' and ''It's A Small World Holiday'', but just as often, Jerk is positive about the things he's reviewing.

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* This is the basic premise of ''WebVideo/MusicalHell'', ''WebVideo/MusicalHell,'' which identifies and punishes the “sins” "sins" of bad film musicals. And then inverts it with the “Saving Grace,” "Saving Grace," which highlights positive elements that shine out in spite of the rest of the film.
* Parodied in ''WebVideo/ThirdRateGamer'', ''WebVideo/ThirdRateGamer,'' where he'll very often nitpick minor details that have little to do with the game.
* ''WebVideo/SomeJerkWithACamera'' sometimes does this, such as with ''Disney/TheCountryBears'' and ''It's A Small World Holiday'', Holiday,'' but just as often, Jerk is positive about the things he's reviewing.



* Almost ''every single article'' in the [[BritishNewspapers British newspaper]] ''The Daily Mail'', popularly known, among other nicknames, as "The Daily Hate". This may or may not be a ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' reference.
* Most of CharlieBrooker's "Screen Burn" columns - and everything he does, such as programs like ''Series/{{Screenwipe}}'' - is all about tearing into the crass stupidity and manipulation of much of television. The rest is bemoaning other things, or praising something that deserves it.

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* Almost ''every single article'' in the [[BritishNewspapers British newspaper]] ''The Daily Mail'', Mail,'' popularly known, among other nicknames, as "The Daily Hate". Hate." This may or may not be a ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' reference.
* Most of CharlieBrooker's "Screen Burn" columns - and everything he does, such as programs like ''Series/{{Screenwipe}}'' - -- is all about tearing into the crass stupidity and manipulation of much of television. The rest is bemoaning other things, or praising something that deserves it.



* ''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}'''s slogan is, "The worst in [[ProfessionalWrestling wrestling]] is here!" and boy, do they live up to it. The tone varies by subject, from light-hearted jabbing to completely hateful ranting, but, with the exception of the ''Rewriting The Book'' section, it's always negative. Despite their negativity (or perhaps because of the good humor they show about it most of the time), they've managed to gain quite the following in the wrestling industry, and even managed to get an audio interview with one of their most common targets, Wrestling/VinceRusso.
* The so-called Website/YouTube [[InNameOnly "shooters"]] (intentionally put in quotes, because they're not in the wrestling business), like Bill & Doug (aka [=RVDTito4Life=]) and Kent Jones, who love to praise Wrestling/{{TNA}} and bash anything that's not TNA, like Wrestling/{{WWE}} or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor ROH]].
* And then there is the reaction from older British people who utterly loathe the American version of wrestling, which they see as over-produced, over-contrived, over-glitzy, over-glamorous, and unfortunately over here to the point of having displaced the native version from British TV screens. Like the American Army in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, American Wrestling is overmonied, oversexed, and over here, the grey squirrel imported from the USA and in the eyes of many, just as verminous. Older Brits look at the latest overmuscled American wunderkind shooting off at the lip, and speculate that arrogant bloody Yank wouldn't last five minutes in the ring with a ''real'' wrestler like Kendo Nagasaki or Mick [=Mc=]Manus. Their grandchildren, WWF devotees, then say "who, Grandad?", and the oldie will sigh and say "I know it's before your time, lad, but we used to have ''real'' wrestling on TV on a Saturday afternoon on ''World of Sport''. And I'm telling you, they were 'real'' wrestlers..." and so on. Even though World of Sport belongs to the 1970's and the sort of cheap 'n' cheerful British wrestling circuit it showcased is virtually dead now, older fans still look back and sigh for the good old days.

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* ''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}'''s ''Website/WrestleCrap'''s slogan is, "The worst in [[ProfessionalWrestling wrestling]] is here!" and boy, do they live up to it. The tone varies by subject, from light-hearted jabbing to completely hateful ranting, but, with the exception of the ''Rewriting The Book'' section, it's always negative. Despite their negativity (or perhaps because of the good humor they show about it most of the time), they've managed to gain quite the following in the wrestling industry, and even managed to get an audio interview with one of their most common targets, Wrestling/VinceRusso.
* The so-called Website/YouTube [[InNameOnly "shooters"]] (intentionally put in quotes, because they're not in the wrestling business), like Bill & Doug (aka [=RVDTito4Life=]) and Kent Jones, who love to praise Wrestling/{{TNA}} and bash anything that's not TNA, like Wrestling/{{WWE}} or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor ROH]].
ROH.]]
* And then there is the reaction from older British people who utterly loathe the American version of wrestling, which they see as over-produced, over-contrived, over-glitzy, over-glamorous, and unfortunately over here to the point of having displaced the native version from British TV screens. Like the American Army in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, American Wrestling is overmonied, oversexed, and over here, the grey squirrel imported from the USA and in the eyes of many, just as verminous. Older Brits look at the latest overmuscled American wunderkind shooting off at the lip, and speculate that arrogant bloody Yank wouldn't last five minutes in the ring with a ''real'' wrestler like Kendo Nagasaki or Mick [=Mc=]Manus. Their grandchildren, WWF devotees, then say "who, Grandad?", and the oldie will sigh and say "I know it's before your time, lad, but we used to have ''real'' wrestling on TV on a Saturday afternoon on ''World of Sport''. Sport.'' And I'm telling you, they were 'real'' wrestlers..." and so on. Even though World of Sport belongs to the 1970's and the sort of cheap 'n' cheerful British wrestling circuit it showcased is virtually dead now, older fans still look back and sigh for the good old days.



* Wiki/TVTropes itself tends to have this problem at times. [[TropesAreNotGood More negative tropes are seen around here more than positive ones]]. Some tropers here tend to be really itching to add negative tropes on [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike shows they don't like here]]. Not to mention the fact that TVTropesWillRuinYourLife. Recently, there has been a movement to lower such negativity in this wiki.

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* Wiki/TVTropes itself tends to have this problem at times. [[TropesAreNotGood More negative tropes are seen around here more than positive ones]]. ones.]] Some tropers here tend to be really itching to add negative tropes on [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike shows they don't like here]]. here.]] Not to mention the fact that TVTropesWillRuinYourLife. Recently, there has been a movement to lower such negativity in this wiki.



* HateDumb. Unlike FanDumb where "Unjust Praises" are shot down [[note]] Although some would argue that fans of TrueArt works are given a free pass to this, [[SacredCow but that's another]] [[UnacceptableTargets story entirely]][[/note]], some "Unjust Hatred" may be given a free pass, especially if the work in question is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].

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* HateDumb. Unlike FanDumb where "Unjust Praises" are shot down [[note]] Although some would argue that fans of TrueArt works are given a free pass to this, [[SacredCow but that's another]] [[UnacceptableTargets story entirely]][[/note]], entirely]] [[/note]], some "Unjust Hatred" may be given a free pass, especially if the work in question is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].popular.]]



* [[Recap/{{Recap}} TV Tropes Recap pages]] seems to suffer strongly from this - which is odd, because unless you really like the show, why are you bothering to write the Recap? And unless you really like the show, why are you bothering to read it?

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* [[Recap/{{Recap}} TV Tropes Recap pages]] seems to suffer strongly from this - -- which is odd, because unless you really like the show, why are you bothering to write the Recap? And unless you really like the show, why are you bothering to read it?



* {{Headscratchers}}. It was even changed from "It Just Bugs Me" to "Headscratchers" because people were using it to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain]], and even complaining when questions they asked got decisively answered/explained.

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* {{Headscratchers}}. It was even changed from "It Just Bugs Me" to "Headscratchers" because people were using it to [[Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike complain]], complain,]] and even complaining when questions they asked got decisively answered/explained.answered / explained.



* DownloadableContent. It's the modern ExpansionPack and it is well received for those that want to get some more content to their favorite game(s). But you wouldn't know that with all the InternetBackdraft on it, with quite a few claiming them; regardless of the actual content, as "overpriced cash cows hidden on the disc waiting to be unlocked".
** Keep in mind, these complaints were flowing freely ''before'' Capcom did one of their infamous moves[[note]]Capcom during the release of Street Fighter 4, caught some infamy when hackers found out that all DLC was already on disc and had to be purchased to unlocked, serving as a money based DoubleUnlock. This has become slightly more frequent with certain games now, but not by much.[[/note]].
* In an in-universe and comedic example, Francis from ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'', who will proclaim [[MadLibsCatchPhrase "I hate (blank)!"]] several times throughout the game. The list of things he actually likes includes vests, steam, Jimmy Gibbs Jr.'s stock car, Music/DepecheMode, and Rochelle from the second game. The list of things he hates is...[[http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Francis#Hatred_of_Everything considerably larger]].

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* DownloadableContent. It's the modern ExpansionPack and it is well received for those that want to get some more content to their favorite game(s). But you wouldn't know that with all the InternetBackdraft on it, with quite a few claiming them; regardless of the actual content, as "overpriced cash cows hidden on the disc waiting to be unlocked".
unlocked."
** Keep in mind, these complaints were flowing freely ''before'' Capcom did one of their infamous moves[[note]]Capcom moves [[note]]Capcom during the release of Street Fighter 4, caught some infamy when hackers found out that all DLC was already on disc and had to be purchased to unlocked, serving as a money based DoubleUnlock. This has become slightly more frequent with certain games now, but not by much.[[/note]].
much[[/note]].
* In an in-universe and comedic example, Francis from ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'', who will proclaim [[MadLibsCatchPhrase "I hate (blank)!"]] several times throughout the game. The list of things he actually likes includes vests, steam, Jimmy Gibbs Jr.'s stock car, Music/DepecheMode, and Rochelle from the second game. The list of things he hates is...[[http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Francis#Hatred_of_Everything considerably larger]].larger.]]



** In MOBA games like ''VideoGame/DefenseOfTheAncients'', ''VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth'', and ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends''. It's safe to say they'll never agree with anything.
* Heck, who says this happens on ''just'' official forums of any game? If you mention a game, most of the responses will be something about how much they hated it, [[HypeBacklash how much they thought it sucked despite being told it was good]], their worst experiences with it, their worst experiences with the community, etc.

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** In MOBA games like ''VideoGame/DefenseOfTheAncients'', ''VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth'', ''VideoGame/DefenseOfTheAncients,'' ''VideoGame/HeroesOfNewerth,'' and ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends''. ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends.'' It's safe to say they'll never agree with anything.
* Heck, who says this happens on ''just'' official forums of any game? If you mention a game, most of the responses will be something about how much they hated it, [[HypeBacklash how much they thought it sucked despite being told it was good]], good,]] their worst experiences with it, their worst experiences with the community, etc.



** Creator/ElectronicArts gets this the worst amongst other companies. They have a lot of terrible things...but a couple things they actually funded and saw great interest in are completely forgotten and they go un-credited for. For example, did you know some of Origin's later games (like ''VideoGame/UltimaOnline'') were only possible with their financial support? Or that when a couple studios who co-developed a game pitched an idea to them, they suggested making it a sequel to another well-received game, and the result was a SacredCow? What game was that, you might ask? ''VideoGame/SystemShock 2''.
** Creator/SiliconKnights get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman a game]] that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''VideoGame/XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over-exaggerations about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human was shit and therefore so will Destiny be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.

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** Creator/ElectronicArts gets this the worst amongst other companies. They have a lot of terrible things...but But a couple things they actually funded and saw great interest in are completely forgotten and they go un-credited for. For example, did you know some of Origin's later games (like ''VideoGame/UltimaOnline'') were only possible with their financial support? Or that when a couple studios who co-developed a game pitched an idea to them, they suggested making it a sequel to another well-received game, and the result was a SacredCow? What game was that, you might ask? ''VideoGame/SystemShock 2''.
2.''
** Creator/SiliconKnights get this to a smaller scale, though they still exemplify this trope beautifully. Essentially, after they [[DevelopmentHell took years]] to make [[TooHuman a game]] that ended up as, not bad, not cap, just SoOkayItsAverage. Then, their next game project ''VideoGame/XMenDestiny'' was announced, and about three quarters of any discussion was over-exaggerations over exaggeration about the game was instead about how SK are incompetent idiots who take too long to make crap games and that Too Human was shit and therefore so will Destiny be, while the remaining quarter was split between actual talk about the game, and people having to point out SK ''have'' made decent, if few, games in the past, and that Too Human wasn't that bad. The game itself ended up being released on time, to mediocre reviews, though official forums seemed to think it was decent, if short and not very groundbreaking.



* Anything released by Activision and VideoGame/ElectronicArts now. Mainly because most of what you see from either publisher is their well-over-known games, like ''Call of Duty'' or ''Battlefield''. That and because both publishers have been known to have incredibly pricy downloadable content, because MoneyDearBoy.

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* Anything released by Activision and VideoGame/ElectronicArts now. Mainly because most of what you see from either publisher is their well-over-known games, like ''Call of Duty'' or ''Battlefield''. ''Battlefield.'' That and because both publishers have been known to have incredibly pricy downloadable content, because MoneyDearBoy.



* Featured as a plot point ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility''. Collin's best friend, Fox, is also his boyfriend... Which means that when Fox screws up, or the relationship hits a rocky patch, misanthropic Collin doesn't really have anyone he can talk to about it. When he befriends Arath, he takes full advantage of the opportunity to unload some of his grudges and doubts about the relationship. Unfortunately, Collin takes much of his usually good love affair for granted, and therefore doesn't really mention the nice things about his boyfriend. Result? Arath begins to believe that Collin's boyfriend is a useless jerk who mistreats his partner.
* ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' thrives on this trope, but they also are able to be very funny [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/7/23/it-really-is-that-good/ when heaping]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/4/2/a-mech-moment-for-us/ unmitigated praise]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/10/1/ on something]].
* In ''[[Webcomic/MenageA3 Ménage à 3]]'', Jung plans to review the play Dillon's starring in:

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* Featured as a plot point ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility''. ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility.'' Collin's best friend, Fox, is also his boyfriend... Which means that when Fox screws up, or the relationship hits a rocky patch, misanthropic Collin doesn't really have anyone he can talk to about it. When he befriends Arath, he takes full advantage of the opportunity to unload some of his grudges and doubts about the relationship. Unfortunately, Collin takes much of his usually good love affair for granted, and therefore doesn't really mention the nice things about his boyfriend. Result? Arath begins to believe that Collin's boyfriend is a useless jerk who mistreats his partner.
* ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' thrives on this trope, but they also are able to be very funny [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/7/23/it-really-is-that-good/ when heaping]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/4/2/a-mech-moment-for-us/ unmitigated praise]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/10/1/ on something]].
something.]]
* In ''[[Webcomic/MenageA3 Ménage à 3]]'', ''Webcomic/MenageA3,'' Jung plans to review the play Dillon's starring in:



* ''Webcomic/ElectricWonderland'': "The Nameless Decade," in which Lululu (an outside agent of Trawn's paper) takes a field trip to the Nettropolis Museum and learns about how society had decayed from 2000-2009, features this trope when discussing [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/electricwonderland/index.php?issue=8&page=5 television]], [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/electricwonderland/index.php?issue=8&page=6 movies]], and [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/electricwonderland/index.php?issue=8&page=7 music]].

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* ''Webcomic/ElectricWonderland'': "The Nameless Decade," in which Lululu (an outside agent of Trawn's paper) takes a field trip to the Nettropolis Museum and learns about how society had decayed from 2000-2009, features this trope when discussing [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/electricwonderland/index.php?issue=8&page=5 television]], television,]] [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/electricwonderland/index.php?issue=8&page=6 movies]], movies,]] and [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/electricwonderland/index.php?issue=8&page=7 music]].music.]]



* WebVideo/AitorMolinaVs the first episode of {{Bleach}}.

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* WebVideo/AitorMolinaVs the first episode of {{Bleach}}.Manga/{{Bleach}}.
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* And then there is the reaction from older British people who utterly loathe the American version of wrestling, which they see as over-produced, over-contrived, over-glitzy, over-glamorous, and unfortunately over here to the point of having displaced the native version from British TV screens. Like the American Army in UsefulNotes/WW2, American Wrestling is overmonied, oversexed, and over here, the grey squirrel imported from the USA and in the eyes of many, just as verminous. Older Brits look at the latest overmuscled American wunderkind shooting off at the lip, and speculate that arrogant bloody Yank wouldn't last five minutes in the ring with a ''real'' wrestler like Kendo Nagasaki or Mick [=McManus=]. Their grandchildren, WWF devotees, then say "who, Grandad?", and the oldie will sigh and say "I know it's before your time, lad, but we used to have ''real'' wrestling on TV on a Saturday afternoon on ''World of Sport''. And I'm telling you, they were 'real'' wrestlers..." and so on. Even though World of Sport belongs to the 1970's and the sort of cheap 'n' cheerful British wrestling circuit it showcased is virtually dead now, older fans still look back and sigh for the good old days.

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* And then there is the reaction from older British people who utterly loathe the American version of wrestling, which they see as over-produced, over-contrived, over-glitzy, over-glamorous, and unfortunately over here to the point of having displaced the native version from British TV screens. Like the American Army in UsefulNotes/WW2, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, American Wrestling is overmonied, oversexed, and over here, the grey squirrel imported from the USA and in the eyes of many, just as verminous. Older Brits look at the latest overmuscled American wunderkind shooting off at the lip, and speculate that arrogant bloody Yank wouldn't last five minutes in the ring with a ''real'' wrestler like Kendo Nagasaki or Mick [=McManus=].[=Mc=]Manus. Their grandchildren, WWF devotees, then say "who, Grandad?", and the oldie will sigh and say "I know it's before your time, lad, but we used to have ''real'' wrestling on TV on a Saturday afternoon on ''World of Sport''. And I'm telling you, they were 'real'' wrestlers..." and so on. Even though World of Sport belongs to the 1970's and the sort of cheap 'n' cheerful British wrestling circuit it showcased is virtually dead now, older fans still look back and sigh for the good old days.



* HateDumb. Unlike FanDumb where "Unjust Praises" are shot down [[note]]Although some would argue that fans of TrueArt works are given a free pass to this, [[SacredCow but that's another]] [[UnacceptableTargets story entirely]][[/note]], some "Unjust Hatred" may be given a free pass, especially if the work in question is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].

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* HateDumb. Unlike FanDumb where "Unjust Praises" are shot down [[note]]Although [[note]] Although some would argue that fans of TrueArt works are given a free pass to this, [[SacredCow but that's another]] [[UnacceptableTargets story entirely]][[/note]], some "Unjust Hatred" may be given a free pass, especially if the work in question is [[ItsPopularNowItSucks popular]].



* Game developers and publishers. If they make a poorly received game, they must make five more good games before people forget about it... and even then they're lucky if they do.

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* Game developers and publishers. If they make a poorly received game, they must make five more good games before people forget about it... and And even then they're lucky if they do.



* Featured as a plot point ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility''. Collin's best friend, Fox, is also his boyfriend...which means that when Fox screws up, or the relationship hits a rocky patch, misanthropic Collin doesn't really have anyone he can talk to about it. When he befriends Arath, he takes full advantage of the opportunity to unload some of his grudges and doubts about the relationship. Unfortunately, Collin takes much of his usually good love affair for granted, and therefore doesn't really mention the nice things about his boyfriend. Result? Arath begins to believe that Collin's boyfriend is a useless jerk who mistreats his partner.

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* Featured as a plot point ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility''. Collin's best friend, Fox, is also his boyfriend...which Which means that when Fox screws up, or the relationship hits a rocky patch, misanthropic Collin doesn't really have anyone he can talk to about it. When he befriends Arath, he takes full advantage of the opportunity to unload some of his grudges and doubts about the relationship. Unfortunately, Collin takes much of his usually good love affair for granted, and therefore doesn't really mention the nice things about his boyfriend. Result? Arath begins to believe that Collin's boyfriend is a useless jerk who mistreats his partner.



* WebOriginal/{{Retsupurae}}: Deliberately seeking out the worst LetsPlays and Let's Players on Website/YouTube, and giving them the {{MST}} treatment.

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* WebOriginal/{{Retsupurae}}: Deliberately seeking out the worst LetsPlays [[LetsPlay Let's Plays]] and Let's Players on Website/YouTube, and giving them the {{MST}} treatment.
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Most of us love a good grumble. It's {{cathar|sisFactor}}tic to complain for a bit and get things off our chests. Problem is, "polite society" has a low tolerance level for this kind of thing, and someone who verbalizes their real thoughts on a lousy situation is likely to be frowned upon and labeled a [[{{Wangst}} whiner]] / [[GrumpyBear grouch]] / EmoTeen relatively quickly. For example, the "correct" answer to the question "How are you?" is either "Fine, thank you," or "Pretty good. And you?" (Or, if we're being formal, "How are you?") [[note]]Though, technically, the ''[[CannotTellALie correct]]'' answer should immediately reveal your status as an atheist or deist.[[/note]] Even if your house exploded in a freak accident that morning and you were flattened by a runaway horse and then fired for coming into work covered in hoofprints.

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Most of us love a good grumble. It's {{cathar|sisFactor}}tic to complain for a bit and get things off our chests. Problem is, "polite society" has a low tolerance level for this kind of thing, and someone who verbalizes their real thoughts on a lousy situation is likely to be frowned upon and labeled a [[{{Wangst}} whiner]] / [[GrumpyBear grouch]] / EmoTeen relatively quickly. For example, the "correct" answer to the question "How are you?" is either "Fine, thank you," or "Pretty good. And you?" (Or, if we're being formal, "How are you?") [[note]]Though, [[note]] Though, technically, the ''[[CannotTellALie correct]]'' answer should immediately reveal your status as an atheist or deist.[[/note]] Even if your house exploded in a freak accident that morning and you were flattened by a runaway horse and then fired for coming into work covered in hoofprints.



* '''[[DysfunctionJunction Everyone Is Messed Up]]''': See that well-adjusted character over there? [[BreakTheCutie Don't expect it to last]]. There's a reason that [[ThereAreNoPsychologists therapists are in short supply]] in many stories, both because of the assumption that TrueArtIsAngsty, and the belief that conflicted characters are more interesting. "Pure" heroes, like the KnightInShiningArmor, are seen as largely generic and similar to each other (and therefore are usually under-represented) while {{Dark and Troubled Past}}s and questionable morals make villains and {{AntiHero}}es distinct and recognizable, even if the troubled pasts and questionable morals keep expressing themselves in the same ways.

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* '''[[DysfunctionJunction Everyone Is Messed Up]]''': See that well-adjusted character over there? [[BreakTheCutie Don't expect it to last]]. There's a reason that [[ThereAreNoPsychologists therapists are in short supply]] in many stories, both because of the assumption that TrueArtIsAngsty, and the belief that conflicted characters are more interesting. "Pure" heroes, like the KnightInShiningArmor, are seen as largely generic and similar to each other (and therefore are usually under-represented) while {{Dark and Troubled Past}}s and questionable morals make villains and {{AntiHero}}es {{Anti Hero}}es distinct and recognizable, even if the troubled pasts and questionable morals keep expressing themselves in the same ways.
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* ''Podcast/TopDownPerspective'': If someone hates a game, you can bet they're always going to either have a snide comment ready about it right away or go off on an eviscerating rant about it. Jon's favorite target is ''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland'', while Sean takes any opportunity to put down ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''.

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* ''Podcast/TopDownPerspective'': If someone hates a game, you can bet they're always going to either have a snide comment ready about it right away or go off on an eviscerating rant about it. Jon's favorite target is ''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland'', ''[[VideoGame/YoshisIsland Yoshi's New Island,]]'' while Sean takes any opportunity to put down ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''.
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* '''[[DysfunctionJunction Everyone Is Messed Up]]''': See that well-adjusted character over there? [[BreakTheCutie Don't expect it to last]]. There's a reason that [[ThereAreNoPsychologists therapists are in short supply]] in many stories, both because of the assumption that TrueArtIsAngsty, and the belief that conflicted characters are more interesting. "Pure" heroes, like the KnightInShiningArmor, are seen as largely generic and similar to each other (and therefore are usually under-represented) while {{DarkAndTroubledPast}}s and questionable morals make villains and {{AntiHero}}es distinct and recognizable, even if the troubled pasts and questionable morals keep expressing themselves in the same ways.

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* '''[[DysfunctionJunction Everyone Is Messed Up]]''': See that well-adjusted character over there? [[BreakTheCutie Don't expect it to last]]. There's a reason that [[ThereAreNoPsychologists therapists are in short supply]] in many stories, both because of the assumption that TrueArtIsAngsty, and the belief that conflicted characters are more interesting. "Pure" heroes, like the KnightInShiningArmor, are seen as largely generic and similar to each other (and therefore are usually under-represented) while {{DarkAndTroubledPast}}s {{Dark and Troubled Past}}s and questionable morals make villains and {{AntiHero}}es distinct and recognizable, even if the troubled pasts and questionable morals keep expressing themselves in the same ways.
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* [[http://www.mrcranky.com/ Mr. Cranky]].

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* [[http://www.mrcranky.com/ Mr. Cranky]].Cranky.]]



* [[http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL86F4D497FD3CACCE&feature=plcp Screen Junkies']] WebVideo/HonestTrailers. At least in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' it ends with "Who am I kidding? That movie is still awesome!" to admit they're doing this. Similarly, in their trailer for ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' they mention how awesome the movie is, but note that they had to do this as a comedy series.

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* [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL86F4D497FD3CACCE&feature=plcp com/playlist?list=PL86F4D497FD3CACCE Screen Junkies']] WebVideo/HonestTrailers. At least in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' it ends with "Who am I kidding? That movie is still awesome!" to admit they're doing this. Similarly, in their trailer for ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' they mention how awesome the movie is, but note that they had to do this as a comedy series.



* Microsoft's XboxOne has been a target of this since its reveal in May 2013, mostly as the result of a counterattack.

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* Microsoft's XboxOne UsefulNotes/XboxOne has been a target of this since its reveal in May 2013, mostly as the result of a counterattack.



** [[UpToEleven Up to eleven]] when he talks about [[VeteALaVersh Darkar]] or Elrubius.

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** [[UpToEleven Up to eleven]] UpToEleven when he talks about [[VeteALaVersh Darkar]] or Elrubius.



* {{Nickelodeon}} has made many great cartoons over the years, and shows no signs of slowing down. However, it seems that among adults, even those who grew up with the channel, hate it with a burning passion, despite well-received shows like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'', people will always complain about ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum'', ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}'', and modern ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''.

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* {{Nickelodeon}} Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} has made many great cartoons over the years, and shows no signs of slowing down. However, it seems that among adults, even those who grew up with the channel, hate it with a burning passion, despite well-received shows like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'', people will always complain about ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum'', ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}'', and modern ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants''.
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* ''{{MTV}} Brazil'' had a show on this, ''Piores Clipes do Mundo'' (The Worst Videos In The World). Particularly the segment "Pérola Videoclíptica" ("Music Video Gem"), which had the host pointing out what's ridiculous in each shot of the video.

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* ''{{MTV}} ''Creator/{{MTV}} Brazil'' had a show on this, ''Piores Clipes do Mundo'' (The Worst Videos In The World). Particularly the segment "Pérola Videoclíptica" ("Music Video Gem"), which had the host pointing out what's ridiculous in each shot of the video.



* The LiveJournal community Stupid Free Drama. While many members are individually fact a very polite and supportive bunch, the group as a whole hates everything but recipes.

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* The LiveJournal Website/LiveJournal community Stupid Free Drama. While many members are individually fact a very polite and supportive bunch, the group as a whole hates everything but recipes.



* This is EGM game reviewer {{Seanbaby}}'s preferred method of reviewing, since he specifically seeks out bad games, mixed with TestosteronePoisoning and exaggerated metaphors. When one review of his was devoted solely to [[http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/karnaajrally.htm mocking the box art of a popular game]], people sent in letters demanding that he actually review the game itself. Seanbaby's response was "My review is done: the box isn't very good. If I knew how to review a game based on gameplay mechanics or whatever, me and my Gamecube wouldn't be forced to watch puppets shit every month."

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* This is EGM game reviewer {{Seanbaby}}'s Creator/{{Seanbaby}}'s preferred method of reviewing, since he specifically seeks out bad games, mixed with TestosteronePoisoning and exaggerated metaphors. When one review of his was devoted solely to [[http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/karnaajrally.htm mocking the box art of a popular game]], people sent in letters demanding that he actually review the game itself. Seanbaby's response was "My review is done: the box isn't very good. If I knew how to review a game based on gameplay mechanics or whatever, me and my Gamecube wouldn't be forced to watch puppets shit every month."



* [[http://screamsheet.wordpress.com The Screamsheet]] has a lot of this trope, especially if the site owner gets talking about DavidLynch, ''Highlander'', or bad comics in general. He has apparently made more of an attempt to give credit where it is due and focus on the positive aspects of the things he discusses, but still does plenty of ranting and raving.

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* [[http://screamsheet.wordpress.com The Screamsheet]] has a lot of this trope, especially if the site owner gets talking about DavidLynch, Creator/DavidLynch, ''Highlander'', or bad comics in general. He has apparently made more of an attempt to give credit where it is due and focus on the positive aspects of the things he discusses, but still does plenty of ranting and raving.
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