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* ''Film/ApocalypseNow'': Colonel Kurtz praises the dedication of the Vietnamese enemy and how they will do anything to win, and argues that America cannot afford to "play fair" or care what the rest of the world thinks. To win, America has to completely throw morality to the wind and completely destroy the Vietcong with every weapon and ruthless tactic they have at their disposal, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm or get the hell out of 'Nam. He expressly believes that if he had ten divisions of hardened soldiers who were willing to butcher children] to send a message, then he would win the war with them, and with alarming speed.

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* ''Film/ApocalypseNow'': Colonel Kurtz praises the dedication of the Vietnamese enemy and how they will do anything to win, and argues that America cannot afford to "play fair" or care what the rest of the world thinks. To win, America has to completely throw morality to the wind and completely destroy the Vietcong with every weapon and ruthless tactic they have at their disposal, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm or get the hell out of 'Nam.'Nam]]. He expressly believes that if he had ten divisions of hardened soldiers who were willing to butcher children] to send a message, then he would win the war with them, and with alarming speed.
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* ''Film/{{Amen}}'':[[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate The Doctor]] remarks after witnessing a gassing that it is "quite horrible", but believes it is necessary to subdue his conscience for the sake of the ideals of Nazism.

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* ''Film/{{Amen}}'':[[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate ''Film/{{Amen}}'': [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate The Doctor]] remarks after witnessing a gassing that it is "quite horrible", but believes it is necessary to subdue his conscience for the sake of the ideals of Nazism.

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* ''Film/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone'': Implied wuen Voldemort says: "There is no good or evil, there is only power, and those too weak to seek it."

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* ''Film/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone'': Implied wuen when Voldemort says: "There is no good or evil, there is only power, and those too weak to seek it."


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** Darren Cross at the beginning of ''Film/AntMan'', when questioned about the morality of his Yellowjacket project. His response:
--->'''Darren Cross''': The laws of nature transcend the laws of man. And I've transcended the laws of nature.
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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': [[BigBad All For One]] believes that morals and ethics are empty concepts in the face of innate desires which are an expression of a person's identity. He advises his protege to never suppress those desires.

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* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'': [[BigBad [[Characters/MyHeroAcademiaAllForOne All For One]] believes that morals and ethics are empty concepts in the face of innate desires which are an expression of a person's identity. He advises his protege to never suppress those desires.
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* On ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'', Hunter Gathers, or at least Brock Sampson's drugged-out vision of him, believes this of special agents. After actually feeling bad about killing a {{Mook}}, Brock takes drugs from Dr. Orpheus and has a hallucination of a dolphin urging him to live a life of peace. He ''almost'' gives in... and then Hunter Gathers kills the dolphin.
--> '''Hunter Gathers:''' Sampson! What is all this namby-pamby feel-bad-about-good-wet-work moose crap?! You're ''beyond'' good and evil, Superman! You work for the government!
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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': [[Characters/MarvelComicsApocalypse Apocalypse]] thinks morality is beneath him, instead regarding himself essentially as [[TheSocialDarwinist "evolution incarnate"]]. When [[Characters/MarvelComicsLoki Loki]] tries to organize a massive VillainTeamUp in the ''ComicBook/ActsOfVengeance'' crossover, Apocalypse rejects membership outright since he doesn't see himself as a supervillain.

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* ''ComicBook/XMen'': [[Characters/MarvelComicsApocalypse Apocalypse]] thinks morality is beneath him, instead regarding himself essentially as [[TheSocialDarwinist "evolution incarnate"]]. When [[Characters/MarvelComicsLoki Loki]] tries to organize a massive VillainTeamUp in the ''ComicBook/ActsOfVengeance'' crossover, Apocalypse rejects membership outright since he doesn't see himself as a supervillain. And also sees himself as above a "mere god" like Loki.
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* In the [[Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaAkiraHimekawa manga adaptation]] of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'', Sahasrahla describes The Triforce as a pure power that will grant the wish of anyone who touches it, good or evil. In the end, however, Ganon's awful personality and goals are too much for even it.

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* In the [[Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaAkiraHimekawa manga adaptation]] of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'', ''Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast2005'', Sahasrahla describes The Triforce as a pure power that will grant the wish of anyone who touches it, good or evil. In the end, however, Ganon's awful personality and goals are too much for even it.
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* In ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasyOperaOmnia'', [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII the Onion Knight]] describes [[HumanoidAbomination the Cloud of Darkness]] in these terms. When the natural balance between the forces of light and darkness is lost with one force becoming too powerful, the Cloud is spawned to destroy the world and return it to the void. He admits that he can't really hate the Cloud as the other heroes hate their respective [[Big Bad]]s because it's not really a person so much as a force of nature.

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* In ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasyOperaOmnia'', [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII the Onion Knight]] describes [[HumanoidAbomination the Cloud of Darkness]] in these terms. When the natural balance between the forces of light and darkness is lost with one force becoming too powerful, the Cloud is spawned to destroy the world and return it to the void. He admits that he can't really hate the Cloud as the other heroes hate their respective [[Big Bad]]s {{Big Bad}}s because it's not really a person so much as a force of nature.
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* In ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasyOperaOmnia'', [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII the Onion Knight]] describes [[HumanoidAbomination the Cloud of Darkness]] in these terms. When the natural balance between the forces of light and darkness is lost with one force becoming too powerful, the Cloud is spawned to destroy the world and return it to the void. He admits that he can't really hate the Cloud as the other heroes hate their respective [[Big Bad]]s because it's not really a person so much as a force of nature.
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A character declares that they or their objectives should not be hindered by considerations about good and evil. Such "meaningless, [[FalseDichotomy fallacious false dichotomies]]" are for simple-minded beings, not for them. They often term them [[GoodIsOldFashioned antiquated]] or [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childish]] propaganda, and may go on to question WhatIsEvil This trope usually applies to villains, though very occasionally a hero may say 'screw right and wrong, I'm doing what I want.'

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A character declares that they or their objectives should not be hindered by considerations about good and evil. Such "meaningless, [[FalseDichotomy fallacious false dichotomies]]" are for simple-minded beings, not for them. They often term them [[GoodIsOldFashioned antiquated]] or [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childish]] propaganda, and may go on to question WhatIsEvil This trope usually applies to villains, though very occasionally a hero may say 'screw "screw right and wrong, I'm doing what I want.'
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** Or in trope speak, good and evil is just MeasuringTheMarigolds.

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