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9th Jun '17 12:22:37 AM RacattackForce
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** Despite being talented at mini-golf, Pacifica hints at being this to Mabel. Because the twins tried to cheat in roder to beat her, we never truly see if she is better, although Mabel does concede she probably would have lost against Pacifica.
* ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'': Lord Dominator, according to Craig [=McCracken=], is described to be a better hater than Lord Hater.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall.'' When [[SociallyAwkwardHero Wirt]] finds out that an unseen character named [[FullNameBasis Jason Funderberker]] wants to ask out his crush, [[GirlNextDoor Sara]], he falls into despair--apparently, Jason Funderberker is someone that no one can compete with. At one point it seems to be setting up [[RedHerring a jock character]] as him, but the ''real'' Jason Funderberker turns out to be a scrawny, quavery-voiced weirdo even nerdier than Wirt, [[{{Foil}} but far less self-conscious about it]]. It's also clear to the viewer that Sara [[TwiceShy actually likes Wirt]] and views Jason Funderberker as a friend.

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** Despite being talented at mini-golf, Pacifica hints at being this to Mabel. Because the twins tried to cheat in roder order to beat her, we never truly see if she is better, although Mabel does concede she probably would have lost against Pacifica.
* ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'': Lord Dominator, according to Craig [=McCracken=], Dominator is described to be a better hater billed as far greater threat than Lord Hater.
Hater was, even before his fall to IneffectualSympatheticVillain. Lord Hater is initially [[LoveAtFirstSight far too smitten]] with Dominator to care, though when it's discovered that her goal is the ''destruction'' of the galaxy (and that she sees him as a pathetic joke), he [[TookALevelInBadass eventually gains the drive to show why he used to be the greatest in the galaxy]].
* PlayedForLaughs in ''WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall.'' When [[SociallyAwkwardHero Wirt]] finds out that an unseen character named [[FullNameBasis Jason Funderberker]] wants to ask out his crush, [[GirlNextDoor Sara]], he falls into despair--apparently, Jason Funderberker is someone that no one can compete with. At one point point, it seems to be setting up [[RedHerring a jock character]] as him, him...but the ''real'' Jason Funderberker turns out to be a scrawny, quavery-voiced weirdo kid even nerdier than Wirt, [[{{Foil}} but far less self-conscious about it]]. It's also clear to the viewer that Sara [[TwiceShy actually likes Wirt]] and views Jason Funderberker as a friend.
7th Jun '17 10:20:36 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* A lot of the animosity between the PlayerCharacter and [[TheResenter Junpei]] in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' is specifically attributed to this trope.

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* ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'':
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A lot of the animosity between the PlayerCharacter and [[TheResenter Junpei]] Junpei Iori in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' ''VideoGame/Persona3'' is specifically attributed to this trope.the latter's jealousy of the former's talents.
** ''VideoGame/Persona5'': After the first phase of his boss fight, [[spoiler:Goro Akechi]]'s rant makes it clear that he's jealous of everything the protagonist has been able to accomplish:
-->Why am I inferior to you...!? I was extremely particular about my life, my grades, my public image, so someone would want me around! I am [[spoiler:an Ace Detective... a celebrity]]! But you... you're just some criminal trash living in an attic! So how...!? How does someone like you have things I don't!? How can such a worthless piece of trash be more special than me!?
6th Jun '17 1:07:17 PM merotoker
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* PlayedForLaughs in the LightNovel ''Do You Like Your Mother? Her Normal Attack Hits Twice at Full Power'': Masato Ohsuki joins a government project to [[TrappedInAnotherWorld go to a fantasy RPG-style world]]. To his chagrin, his overly doting mother comes along with him...and [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin just like the title suggests]], she turns out to be a complete badass.

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* PlayedForLaughs in the LightNovel {{Light Novel|s}} ''Do You Like Your Mother? Her Normal Attack Hits Twice at Full Power'': Masato Ohsuki joins a government project to [[TrappedInAnotherWorld go to a fantasy RPG-style world]]. To his chagrin, his overly doting mother comes along with him...and [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin just like the title suggests]], she turns out to be a complete badass.



** The symbiotes appear to have this as a biological rule, as each symbiote inherits the powers of it's parent to a greater degree. Comicbook/{{Venom}} is outclassed by his spawn, Comicbook/{{Carnage}}, who in turn is outclassed by ''his'' spawn, Toxin. This element was downplayed and eventually phased out completely as the comics continue, however: While Toxin was PutOnABus, Venom aquired several Superhuman hosts and mutations, while Carnage repeatedly tampered with Multiversal (well, microversal...) energy and Chtonic magic to power himself. Nowadays, whenever the Symbiotes brawl there never seems to be a "definitive" stronger one.

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** The symbiotes appear to have this as a biological rule, as each symbiote inherits the powers of it's parent to a greater degree. Comicbook/{{Venom}} is outclassed by his spawn, Comicbook/{{Carnage}}, who in turn is outclassed by ''his'' spawn, Toxin. This element was downplayed and eventually phased out completely as the comics continue, however: While Toxin was PutOnABus, Venom aquired acquired several Superhuman hosts and mutations, while Carnage repeatedly tampered with Multiversal (well, microversal...) energy and Chtonic magic to power himself. Nowadays, whenever the Symbiotes brawl there never seems to be a "definitive" stronger one.



* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} has often claimed to be the best there is at what he does. Perhaps no enemy of his has presented more conclusive evidence against this than Tomi Shido - the Gorgon. Faster, stronger, smarter, more agile, more silent, more skillful, all despite his mutant powers having nothing to do with any of these things. Many of Wolvie's enemies are in some way an equal match for him, but the Gorgon is, simply put, ''too much'' for ''Wolverine'', even according to the man himself. It took using his own TakenForGranite powers against him to put him away... but sometimes [[HesBack you just can't keep a bad man down]].

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* ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} has often claimed to be the best there is at what he does. Perhaps no enemy of his has presented more conclusive evidence against this than Tomi Shido - the Gorgon. Faster, stronger, smarter, more agile, more silent, more skillful, all despite his mutant powers having nothing to do with any of these things. Many of Wolvie's enemies are in some way an equal match for him, but the Gorgon is, simply put, ''too much'' for ''Wolverine'', even according to the man himself. It took using his own TakenForGranite powers against him to put him away... but sometimes [[HesBack [[BackFromTheDead you just can't keep a bad man down]].



* Lancey Howard in ''Film/TheCincinnatiKid''.
* Minnesota Fats from ''Film/TheHustler'', and the former trope namer.

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* %%* Lancey Howard in ''Film/TheCincinnatiKid''.
* %%* Minnesota Fats from ''Film/TheHustler'', and the former trope namer.



* In one episode of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', "The Jerusalem Duality", Sheldon meets a young version of himself in Dennis Kim, who proceeds to shake Sheldon's confidence in his research. HilarityEnsues.

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* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory''
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In one the episode of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', "The Jerusalem Duality", Sheldon meets a young version of himself in Dennis Kim, who proceeds to shake Sheldon's confidence in his research. HilarityEnsues.



** Barry is slowly averting this, however, with increases in speed, skill and experience. The reason for many loss is that he is still growing as a hero.

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** Barry is slowly averting this, however, with increases in speed, skill and experience. The reason for many loss losses is that he is still growing as a hero.



* ''VideoGame/InazumaEleven'' in general.

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* ''VisualNovel/{{SC2VN}}'' is based on the [[VideoGame/StarcraftII Starcraft 2]] scene, so naturally it has this. A player in Master league is in the top ~2% of players, but Mach still refers to them as 'casual' and easily beats them. Mach, in turn, is in Grandmaster league (top 200 ladder players in the region), but still gets stomped by actual pros.

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* ''VisualNovel/{{SC2VN}}'' is based on the [[VideoGame/StarcraftII ''[[VideoGame/StarcraftII Starcraft 2]] 2]]'' scene, so naturally it has this. A player in Master league is in the top ~2% of players, but Mach still refers to them as 'casual' and easily beats them. Mach, in turn, is in Grandmaster league (top 200 ladder players in the region), but still gets stomped by actual pros.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'' had an episode of this, where a new kid is introduced who is faster than Vince, smarter than Gretchen, stronger than Spinelli, and better at poetry then Mikey. It's revealed that the kid feels isolated because he's always better at everything, and at every school he goes to the same thing happens. Mikey points out that they should have all been more accepting. The episode ends with the kid getting a message from the Secret Service saying the president needs him. He gets into a jet, takes off, does a perfect barrel roll, and flies off.
** Also the kid was specifically trying to be low-key about his talents-- as he points out near the end of the episode, everybody else only found out how great he was at everything because ''they'' kept challenging ''him,'' trying to find something he wasn't perfect at. He only went along with it because they kept insisting. The ending is rather kind about the whole thing though, after he points this out and how he's just trying to be himself everyone else becomes more understanding and are genuinely sad to see him go after befriending him.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'' had an episode of this, where a new kid is introduced who is faster than Vince, smarter than Gretchen, stronger than Spinelli, and better at poetry then Mikey. It's revealed that the kid feels isolated because he's always better at everything, and at every school he goes to the same thing happens. Mikey points out that they should have all been more accepting. The episode ends with the kid getting a message from the Secret Service saying the president needs him. He gets into a jet, takes off, does a perfect barrel roll, and flies off.
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off. Also the kid was specifically trying to be low-key about his talents-- as he points out near the end of the episode, everybody else only found out how great he was at everything because ''they'' kept challenging ''him,'' trying to find something he wasn't perfect at. He only went along with it because they kept insisting. The ending is rather kind about the whole thing though, after he points this out and how he's just trying to be himself everyone else becomes more understanding and are genuinely sad to see him go after befriending him.



* [[ParodySue Lila]] was introduced like this in ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold''. Helga, Phoebe, Rhonda and all the other girls were jealous of her beauty, her cute dresses and her sweet disposition and ostracized her out of jealousy. [[spoiler:It turns out Lila envied ''them'' because she not only was very shy, she had a sad home life with a MissingMom and a sweet yet unemployed single dad.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold''
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[[ParodySue Lila]] was introduced like this in ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold''.introduced. Helga, Phoebe, Rhonda and all the other girls were jealous of her beauty, her cute dresses and her sweet disposition and ostracized her out of jealousy. [[spoiler:It turns out Lila envied ''them'' because she not only was very shy, she had a sad home life with a MissingMom and a sweet yet unemployed single dad.]]



* BigBad Vlad Masters of ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' is the better of the two half ghosts. Better fighter, better strategist, better brains and brawn. Having twenty more years of experience certainly helps. Danny eventually [[CharacterDevelopment grows in power and is able to go toe-to-toe with him.]]
** In the last episode Vlad puts together a team of ghost fighters known as Masters' Blasters that proceed to hunt down and stop any ghosts before Danny can.

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* BigBad Vlad Masters of ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' is the better of the two half ghosts. Better fighter, better strategist, better brains and brawn. Having twenty more years of experience certainly helps. Danny eventually [[CharacterDevelopment grows in power and is able to go toe-to-toe with him.]]
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]] In the last episode Vlad puts together a team of ghost fighters known as Masters' Blasters that proceed to hunt down and stop any ghosts before Danny can.



* In ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats2011'', Tygra, a seemingly AloofOlderBrother and adoptive SpareToTheThrone, actively {{invoke|dTrope}}s this trope against his younger brother, the crown prince Lion-O, frequently showing him up in public and fomenting opinion that RebelPrince Lion-O is TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Tygra goes so far as to openly brag to their father, with Lion-O in earshot, "I just would have been a better [king]."

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* In ''WesternAnimation/ThunderCats2011'', ''WesternAnimation/Thundercats2011'', Tygra, a seemingly AloofOlderBrother and adoptive SpareToTheThrone, actively {{invoke|dTrope}}s this trope against his younger brother, the crown prince Lion-O, frequently showing him up in public and fomenting opinion that RebelPrince Lion-O is TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone. Tygra goes so far as to openly brag to their father, with Lion-O in earshot, "I just would have been a better [king]."



** In the episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E12PinkiePride "Pinkie Pride"]], a pony called Cheese Sandwich shows up in Ponyville and seems to outdo Pinkie Pie as a party planner. In the end, [[spoiler:it turns out that wasn't his intention but rather to show off to Pinkie, who inspired him to become such in the first place.]]

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** In the episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E12PinkiePride "Pinkie Pride"]], a pony called Cheese Sandwich shows up in Ponyville and seems to outdo Pinkie Pie as a party planner. In the end, [[spoiler:it turns out that wasn't his intention but rather to show off to Pinkie, who inspired him to become such in the first place.]]place]].



* F. Scott Fitzgerald seems to have looked at Hemingway this way, and while Hemingway was much more prolific and critically acclaimed when both were alive, try finding any list of "Best American Novels" or "Best Novels of the 20th Century" that doesn't have ''The Great Gatsby'' on the list, probably in the top ten. Sadly, Fitzgerald never lived to see the acclaim his magnum opus would one day earn.

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* F. Scott Fitzgerald Creator/FScottFitzgerald seems to have looked at Hemingway Creator/ErnestHemingway this way, and while Hemingway was much more prolific and critically acclaimed when both were alive, try finding any list of "Best American Novels" or "Best Novels of the 20th Century" that doesn't have ''The Great Gatsby'' ''Literature/TheGreatGatsby'' on the list, probably in the top ten. Sadly, Fitzgerald never lived to see the acclaim his magnum opus would one day earn.
30th May '17 8:53:28 PM mouschilight
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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', this frequently flip-flops between Naruto and Sasuke. At the start of the series, Naruto is the IdiotHero while Sasuke is TheAce with a super power lottery. Naruto is envious of Sasuke's skills while Sasuke himself is jealous of Naruto's quick progression. This gets flipped on its head half way through the series where Naruto ends up surpassing Sasuke, and Sasuke's realization ends up serving as the catalyst for his FaceHeelTurn.

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* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', this frequently flip-flops between Naruto and Sasuke. At the start of the series, Naruto is the IdiotHero while Sasuke is TheAce with a super power lottery. Naruto is envious of Sasuke's skills while Sasuke himself is jealous of Naruto's quick progression. This gets flipped on its head half way through towards the series end of Part I where Naruto ends up surpassing Sasuke, and Sasuke's realization ends up serving as the catalyst for his FaceHeelTurn.
28th May '17 9:40:50 PM Random888
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** Penny meets her own better version in "The Dead Hooker Juxtaposition" when Alicia, a gorgeous new neighbor, moves into the building and steals the guys' attention away from Penny. There is some HypocriticalHumor as Penny condemns Alicia for the same kind of IHaveBoobsYouMustObey behavior of which Penny herself is guilty. Alicia is also a much more successful actress the Penny, having secured "a couple of national commercials and this recurring thing on a soap" after just three months in L.A.

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** Penny meets her own better version in "The Dead Hooker Juxtaposition" when Alicia, a gorgeous new neighbor, moves into the building and steals the guys' attention away from Penny. There is some HypocriticalHumor as Penny condemns Alicia for the same kind of IHaveBoobsYouMustObey behavior of which Penny herself is guilty. Alicia is also a much more successful actress the than Penny, having secured "a couple of national commercials and this recurring thing on a soap" after just three months in L.A.
17th May '17 4:57:27 PM LinTaylor
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* In ''Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam: The Steel 7'', Giri (former AcePilot for [[TheEmpire the Jupiter Empire]]) initially refuses to help [[LaResistance the Crossbone Vanguard]] fight a revived Empire because he says it's not his concern anymore. Then he learns that the JE's leader is his own personal one, who twists the knife further when he shows up to kill the heroes by mocking Giri as the Empire's ''second'' best pilot. After that things are [[ItsPersonal a mite more personal]] and Giri readily joins up.

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* In ''Manga/MobileSuitCrossboneGundam: The Steel 7'', Giri (former AcePilot for [[TheEmpire the Jupiter Empire]]) initially refuses to help [[LaResistance the Crossbone Vanguard]] fight a revived Empire because he says it's not his concern anymore. Then he learns that the JE's Empire's new leader is his own personal one, Someone Better, who twists the knife further when he shows up to kill the heroes by mocking Giri as the Empire's ''second'' best pilot. After that things are [[ItsPersonal a mite more personal]] and Giri readily joins up.


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* PlayedForLaughs in the LightNovel ''Do You Like Your Mother? Her Normal Attack Hits Twice at Full Power'': Masato Ohsuki joins a government project to [[TrappedInAnotherWorld go to a fantasy RPG-style world]]. To his chagrin, his overly doting mother comes along with him...and [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin just like the title suggests]], she turns out to be a complete badass.
13th May '17 10:02:44 PM Prometheus117
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* WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack is able to overcome everything the series throws at him with strength, skill, and his divine blade. Until he encounters the Guardian who protects a time portal. The Guardian quickly proves to be too much for Jack -- by the end of their fight Jack is an unconscious mess while the worst the Guardian has suffered is ClothingDamage. The Guardian boasts that only one man is destined to defeat him and use the portal, and Jack is ''not'' that man. [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass Not yet]].]]

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* WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack is able to overcome everything the series throws at him with strength, skill, and his divine blade. Until he encounters the Guardian who protects a time portal. The Guardian quickly proves to be too much for Jack -- by the end of their fight Jack is an unconscious mess while the worst the Guardian has suffered is ClothingDamage. The Guardian boasts that only one man is destined to defeat him and use the portal, and Jack is ''not'' that man. [[spoiler:[[FutureBadass Not yet]].yet]]...but then [[BigBad Aku]] comes around and shows him [[ScrewDestiny he doesn't believe in destiny]]. [[KilledOffForReal Oh so very much not so]].]]
6th May '17 2:07:32 PM Tropetastic1995
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** Goku is better than everyone by the end of the series, nly for it to subverted when Beerus, the God of Destruction, turns up, easily beats everyone including Goku's Super Saiyan 3 state, and even [[spoiler:the Super Saiyan God state, canonically the strongest power in the series]] only manages to bring him to 70% of his power and still lose. [[spoiler:And it turns out that there's his master Whis, and eleven other universes' Gods of Destruction who are stronger than him, the former stated and the latter implied, combined with the fact that Beerus didn't show his full power. And then, there is the Omni-King, who is THE ruler of the MULTIVERSE, and has such power to back it up that he not only destroyed 6 universes in a fit (in comparison, Kid Buu devastated a galaxy and Beerus can 'only' destroy several in a good day), but also, Beerus and Whis, the previous record holders, wet their pants in terror of this news.]]

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** Goku is better than everyone by the end of the series, nly only for it to subverted when Beerus, the God of Destruction, turns up, easily beats everyone including Goku's Super Saiyan 3 state, and even [[spoiler:the Super Saiyan God state, canonically the strongest power in the series]] only manages to bring him to 70% of his power and still lose. [[spoiler:And it turns out that there's his master Whis, and eleven other universes' Gods of Destruction who are stronger than him, the former stated and the latter implied, combined with the fact that Beerus didn't show his full power. And then, there is the Omni-King, who is THE ruler of the MULTIVERSE, and has such power to back it up that he not only destroyed 6 universes in a fit (in comparison, Kid Buu devastated a galaxy and Beerus can 'only' only destroy several one universe in a good day), but also, Beerus and Whis, the previous record holders, wet their pants in terror of this news.]]
1st May '17 9:42:01 PM ultimomant
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** In the [[Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse He-Man]] crossover "To Eternia - With Death!", it is shown that Superman is stronger than He-Man. Superman may be weak to magic, but if he can dodge magical attacks, then he can easily defeat even the likes of Skeletor.
30th Apr '17 4:02:14 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Played rather tragically in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsI'' with Siegmeyer of Catarina's sidequest. In the world of ''Dark Souls'', TheUndead turn [[OurZombiesAreDifferent Hollow]] when they lose all sense of purpose and cross the DespairEventHorizon, and Siegmeyer keeps himself from Hollowing through his love of adventuring. He is encountered several times throughout the game, always stymied by some obstacle, and since he's a friendly character most players would of course be inclined to help him out. The problem is, after helping him several times, Siegmeyer realizes that he's basically relying on you to do everything for him and is barely making any progress on his own, and starts losing faith in his own skills. [[spoiler:Finally, in a last-ditch attempt to both repay you for all of your help and to regain some of his {{Badass}} cred, he attempts a SelfSacrificeScheme where he fights a group of [[DemonicSpiders Chaos Eaters]] by himself, allowing you to escape unharmed while he has a DyingMomentOfAwesome. Most players would again be inclined to fight alongside him and ensure his survival, but the fact that ''you'' once again ended up saving ''him'' when ''he'' was trying to save ''you'' ends up being the straw that breaks the camel's back. He Hollows out in Ash Lake, and is put down by his own daughter]].

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* Played rather tragically in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsI'' with Siegmeyer of Catarina's sidequest. In the world of ''Dark Souls'', TheUndead turn [[OurZombiesAreDifferent Hollow]] when they lose all sense of purpose and cross the DespairEventHorizon, and Siegmeyer keeps himself from Hollowing through his love of adventuring. He is encountered several times throughout the game, always stymied by some obstacle, and since he's a friendly character most players would of course be inclined to help him out. The problem is, after helping him several times, Siegmeyer realizes that he's basically relying on you to do everything for him and is barely making any progress on his own, and starts losing faith in his own skills. [[spoiler:Finally, in a last-ditch attempt to both repay you for all of your help and to regain some of his {{Badass}} badass cred, he attempts a SelfSacrificeScheme where he fights a group of [[DemonicSpiders Chaos Eaters]] by himself, allowing you to escape unharmed while he has a DyingMomentOfAwesome. Most players would again be inclined to fight alongside him and ensure his survival, but the fact that ''you'' once again ended up saving ''him'' when ''he'' was trying to save ''you'' ends up being the straw that breaks the camel's back. He Hollows out in Ash Lake, and is put down by his own daughter]].
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