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* Music/TaylorSwift's music also suffers this, and [[https://i.redd.it/mmx5768simt11.png these]] [[https://i.redd.it/gred4v3u5fi31.jpg two fanmade]] waveform posters for her two previously released albums prove it. Her first fully pop album, 1989 was also often criticized for it's loudness, ranking up to a [=DR6=].

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* Music/TaylorSwift's music also suffers this, and [[https://i.redd.it/mmx5768simt11.png these]] [[https://i.redd.it/gred4v3u5fi31.jpg two fanmade]] waveform posters for her two previously released albums prove it. Her first fully pop album, 1989 ''Music/NineteenEightyNine'', was also often criticized for it's loudness, ranking up to a [=DR6=].
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* Music/{{Macklemore}} & Ryan Lewis's ''The Heist'' [[http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=35182 is mastered terribly.]] Strangely, "[=BomBom=]" has a DR of 10, while every other song has a DR of 5 or 6.

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* Music/{{Macklemore}} & Ryan Lewis's ''The Heist'' [[http://www.dr.[[https://dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=35182 info/album/view/104669 is mastered terribly.]] Strangely, "[=BomBom=]" has a DR of 10, while every other song has a DR of 5 or 6.
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* Music/DreamTheater's self-titled. Actually, all of their albums [[http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=Dream+Theater&sort=year&order=desc Falling into Infinity onwards]] are offenders. (Even ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'' before that clip quite a lot; they just look better in comparison because the mastering got ''even worse'' with Dream Theater's later albums.)
** Averted with the [=HDTracks=] version. Begs the question why this isn't the master everyone gets.

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* Most of Music/DreamTheater's self-titled. Actually, all of their albums [[http://www.from [[https://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=Dream+Theater&sort=year&order=desc info/album/list/1/year/desc?artist=Dream%20Theater Falling into Infinity onwards]] are offenders. (Even offenders at [=DR6=] or 7 [[note]](Though even ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'' before that clip quite a lot; they just look better in comparison because lot)[[/note]], but special mention goes to their self-titled, whose mix is quite in-your-face and compressed even by the mastering got ''even worse'' with Dream Theater's later albums.)
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** Averted with the [=HDTracks=] version. Begs versions of most of the question why this isn't the master everyone gets.albums.

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Turns out my issue with the 5.1 mix was caused by improper AC 3 decoding, not the actual mastering.


** Averted with the [=HDTracks=] version. Begs the question why this isn't the master everyone gets
** The 5.1 surround mix of Systematic Chaos, in spite of a reasonably high DR score, outdoes any CD mix by having very noticeable dynamic range compression, with normally quiet parts rising in volume only to duck back out as soon as the rest of the band comes in.

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** Averted with the [=HDTracks=] version. Begs the question why this isn't the master everyone gets
** The 5.1 surround mix of Systematic Chaos, in spite of a reasonably high DR score, outdoes any CD mix by having very noticeable dynamic range compression, with normally quiet parts rising in volume only to duck back out as soon as the rest of the band comes in.
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* ''VideoGame/CrimzonClover'''s UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} OST is entirely brickwalled and clipped to near ''Music/DeathMagnetic'' levels.

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* ''VideoGame/CrimzonClover'''s UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} Platform/{{Steam}} OST is entirely brickwalled and clipped to near ''Music/DeathMagnetic'' levels.
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* The 20th anniversary remaster of Music/{{Nirvana}}'s ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'' is the ultimate disgrace to fans. Kurt Cobain is rolling in his grave... [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/stayaway2011remaster.jpg Witness the carnage here]].

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* The 20th anniversary remaster of Music/{{Nirvana}}'s ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'' ''Music/{{Nevermind|Album}}'' is the ultimate disgrace to fans. Kurt Cobain is rolling in his grave... [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/stayaway2011remaster.jpg Witness the carnage here]].
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* Music/{{Beck}}'s ''Colors'' has been especially criticized for this, having a DR of 4 and very squished audio. [[note]]It's worth noting that much of the criticism was launched after the album won the 2019 Grammy Award for Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical.[[/note]] Some of his other albums also suffer from this somewhat. It's worth noting that the [[http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/122325 HDTracks release]] of ''Sea Change'' is significantly more dynamic than [[http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/110304 the original CD]], being [=DR11=] in comparison to the CD's [=DR8=] (which is still rather dynamic by early 2000s mastering standards). The [[http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/134199 Mobile Fidelity CD]] is even better at [=DR12=].

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* Music/{{Beck}}'s Music/{{Beck|Musician}}'s ''Colors'' has been especially criticized for this, having a DR of 4 and very squished audio. [[note]]It's worth noting that much of the criticism was launched after the album won the 2019 Grammy Award for Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical.[[/note]] Some of his other albums also suffer from this somewhat. It's worth noting that the [[http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/122325 HDTracks release]] of ''Sea Change'' is significantly more dynamic than [[http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/110304 the original CD]], being [=DR11=] in comparison to the CD's [=DR8=] (which is still rather dynamic by early 2000s mastering standards). The [[http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/134199 Mobile Fidelity CD]] is even better at [=DR12=].
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* Tony Brown has been guilty of this in the 21st century, which is surprising as many of his production jobs in TheNineties averted it:

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* Tony Brown has been guilty of this in the 21st century, which is surprising as many of his production jobs in TheNineties The90s averted it:



** ''Music/TheDownwardSpiral'', also released in 1994, has the same deal as ''Throwing Copper'' - overall there is a lot of dynamic range, but the loudest portions of the album are brickwalled and clipped. This would continue with most of Music/NineInchNails' releases throughout TheNineties and in fact, dates all the way back to their 1992 EP ''Broken''. However, knowing Reznor's perfectionistic tendencies, it's quite likely that he intended the clipped parts to sound exceptionally distorted, so your mileage may vary as to whether this counts as a straight example of this trope or whether it's a subversion.

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** ''Music/TheDownwardSpiral'', also released in 1994, has the same deal as ''Throwing Copper'' - overall there is a lot of dynamic range, but the loudest portions of the album are brickwalled and clipped. This would continue with most of Music/NineInchNails' releases throughout TheNineties The90s and in fact, dates all the way back to their 1992 EP ''Broken''. However, knowing Reznor's perfectionistic tendencies, it's quite likely that he intended the clipped parts to sound exceptionally distorted, so your mileage may vary as to whether this counts as a straight example of this trope or whether it's a subversion.



* Music/{{Blondie}}'s 2017 album ''Pollinator'' is noticeably louder their earlier albums, at a consistent average DR of 5 on the CD and digital download versions. The vinyl release is slightly better, averaging at 9.

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* Music/{{Blondie}}'s Music/{{Blondie|Band}}'s 2017 album ''Pollinator'' is noticeably louder their earlier albums, at a consistent average DR of 5 on the CD and digital download versions. The vinyl release is slightly better, averaging at 9.
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* Many songs by Music/{{Lights}} fall victim to this, such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPLRkyGU3cM "Second Go"]], and even worse [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0Vg34Nv7I "Saviour"]], where the chorus is completely brickwalled. Her sophomore album ''Siberia'' has taken this trend further, being distorted to the point of being unlistenable -- although this example is likely for stylistic reasons, and it's also released on the same label as Music/CrystalCastles. ''Little Machines'' has noticeably better dynamics than her first two albums, but at least two of the tracks, namely "Up We Go" and "Same Sea", still have horrible clipping during their choruses, which appears to be intentional overcompression.

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* Many songs by Music/{{Lights}} fall victim to this, such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPLRkyGU3cM "Second Go"]], and even worse [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0Vg34Nv7I "Saviour"]], where the chorus is completely brickwalled. Her sophomore album ''Siberia'' has taken this trend further, being distorted to the point of being unlistenable -- although this example is likely for stylistic reasons, and it's also released on the same label as Music/CrystalCastles.Music/{{Crystal Castles|Band}}. ''Little Machines'' has noticeably better dynamics than her first two albums, but at least two of the tracks, namely "Up We Go" and "Same Sea", still have horrible clipping during their choruses, which appears to be intentional overcompression.
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* ''Black Holes and Revelations'' by Music/{{Muse}}. The difference is immediately clear when compared to live versions of the songs.
** All of their albums since ''Absolution'', really, even when they mixed/mastered, and even on the vinyl editions. ''The 2nd Law'' is just as bad, but luckily, a 24-bit HD version was released, which is far more dynamic and doesn't clip at all.

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* ''Black Holes and Revelations'' ''Music/BlackHolesAndRevelations'' by Music/{{Muse}}. The difference is immediately clear when compared to live versions of the songs.
** All of their albums since ''Absolution'', ''Music/{{Absolution|Album}}'', really, even when they mixed/mastered, and even on the vinyl editions. ''The 2nd Law'' ''Music/The2ndLaw'' is just as bad, but luckily, a 24-bit HD version was released, which is far more dynamic and doesn't clip at all.
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* Music/AvaMax's debut album ''Heaven & Hell'' is compressed to [=DR5=], but it has a much more dynamic vinyl version.

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* Music/AvaMax's debut album ''Heaven & Hell'' is compressed to [=DR5=], but it has a much more dynamic vinyl version. Its follow-up ''Diamonds & Dancefloors'' is even louder at [=DR4=].

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