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19th Mar '16 5:39:17 AM Kalaong
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* SelectiveObliviousness: Ringo drops a bit of an AuthorTract two-thirds through ''Citadel'' - two of Vernon's people attempt to educate an accountant on what it would take to make ''Troy'' mobile;
-->'''Dana''': Chief, how many Myrms would it take to give the Troy one gravity of acceleration?\\
'''Barnett''': Easy. Eighty-four million and change.\\
'''Esme''': ''Impossible''. You made that up.\\
'''Barnett''': Okay, genius, you do the math. Two point two trillion tons divided by the weight of a shuttle...\\
'''Dana''': Sixty tons.\\
'''Barnett''': Divided by four hundred gravities of acceleration.\\
'''Esme''': I still canít believe that.\\
'''Barnett''': Itís fricking ''math!'' Youíre an ''accountant!'' Donít tell me you canít do the math!\\
'''Esme''': Iím leaving. I donít have to put up with this.\\
'''Barnett''': What, ''logic?''
** He also tries to share the wealth;
-->'''Barnett''': You find people who just will ''not'' follow the logic everywhere. They donít like the answer so they think ''wishing'' makes it so. Conservatives have got the same problem. Talk to one of them about prostitution, gambling or drugs.\\
'''Dana''': Abortion.\\
'''Barnett''': There you go. My body, my choice. ''Cannot'' do the logic. Itís not just a liberal thing. Moving the ''Troy?'' Cannot do the math cause their brains shut down.
13th Feb '16 8:21:01 AM dclark
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* BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu: A rare mutual example in ''The Hot Gate''. The humans have lost nearly their entire fleet, ''Thermopylae'' has been severely crippled, there are around 27,000 humans floating in escape pods waiting for rescue, and the shuttle divisions that would normally rescue them have been wiped out down to a ''single'' remaining trained pilot/engineer. On the Rangora side, they trap they sprung consisted of about 40% of their remaining fleet. They lose most of it, and are left with 100,000 survivors to rescue, and an enemy that's just going to keep rebuilding as relentlessly as before.
7th Jan '16 7:04:35 AM Kalaong
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*** Icing on the cake; after they've done all this but before they tell him they've done it, they ask him to make yet another investment in the project - to have three more Air Force pilots fitted with expensive cybernetic implants at the cost of roughly ''two hundred and fifty'' billion dollars. ''Each.'' Not including transportation to the exosolar station to get the implants, which is kind of like flying to the Mayo Clinic from a primitive island. Vernon quite reasonably says ScrewThisImOuttaHere

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*** Icing on the cake; after they've done all this but before they tell him they've done it, they ask him to make yet another investment in the project - to have three more Air Force pilots fitted with expensive cybernetic implants at the cost of roughly ''two hundred and fifty'' billion dollars. ''Each.'' Not including transportation to the exosolar station space habitat to get the implants, which is kind of like flying to the Mayo Clinic from a primitive island.South Pacific island only accessible by seaplane. Vernon quite reasonably says ScrewThisImOuttaHere
18th Nov '15 4:19:41 AM Nohbody
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* AuthorFilibuster:
** Ringo's standard Pet Peeves show up: Pacifism is dumb, the military is extremely important, {{Nepotism}} is the bane of humanity, liberalism is evil, the UsefulNotes/MainstreamMedia cannot be trusted... New(ish) ones include "space is ''really'' dangerous", "ScienceIsGood", and "maintenance is very important."
*** The last three might almost be considered "Deconstruction," rather than personal opinion, as so many sci-fi series gloss over the dangers of being out in the airless void of space, with only a thin metal can preventing your blood from boiling out of your eye sockets. The other ones, those can be argued one way or another... but who's going to say "Maintenance on the ship keeping us from ''dying''" is bad?

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* AuthorFilibuster:
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AuthorFilibuster: Ringo's standard Pet Peeves show up: Pacifism is dumb, the military is extremely important, {{Nepotism}} is the bane of humanity, liberalism is evil, the UsefulNotes/MainstreamMedia cannot be trusted... New(ish) ones include "space is ''really'' dangerous", "ScienceIsGood", and "maintenance is very important."
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" The last three might almost be considered "Deconstruction," rather than personal opinion, as so many sci-fi series gloss over the dangers of being out in the airless void of space, with only a thin metal can preventing your blood from boiling out of your eye sockets. The other ones, those can be argued one way or another... but who's going to say "Maintenance on the ship keeping us from ''dying''" is bad?
17th Nov '15 3:43:24 AM Redsplinter
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** The last three might almost be considered "Deconstruction," rather than personal opinion, as so many sci-fi series gloss over the dangers of being out in the airless void of space, with only a thin metal can preventing your blood from boiling out of your eye sockets. The other ones, those can be argued one way or another... but who's going to say "Maintenance on the ship keeping us from ''dying''" is bad?

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** *** The last three might almost be considered "Deconstruction," rather than personal opinion, as so many sci-fi series gloss over the dangers of being out in the airless void of space, with only a thin metal can preventing your blood from boiling out of your eye sockets. The other ones, those can be argued one way or another... but who's going to say "Maintenance on the ship keeping us from ''dying''" is bad?


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**A Deconstruction is the UNG 'laser', so named because the power running through it is so terrifyingly massive that prior to firing it Vernon just said 'ung, ung, ung' in BrainLock of the scales involved.
23rd Oct '15 1:42:38 AM Nohbody
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The changes that [[spoiler:the Horvath retrovirus]] makes are not really possible without rewriting genetic code from the ground up. The more details we learn about it, the worse it gets. C'mon, Ringo. Step away from the biology and go back to your space lasers.

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The changes that [[spoiler:the Horvath retrovirus]] makes are not really possible without rewriting genetic code from the ground up. The more details we learn about it, the worse it gets. C'mon, Ringo. Step away from the biology and go back to your space lasers.
20th Oct '15 6:46:46 PM Wysp
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The changes that [[spoiler:the Horvath retrovirus]] makes are not really possible without rewriting genetic code from the ground up.

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The changes that [[spoiler:the Horvath retrovirus]] makes are not really possible without rewriting genetic code from the ground up. The more details we learn about it, the worse it gets. C'mon, Ringo. Step away from the biology and go back to your space lasers.
20th Oct '15 6:43:42 PM Wysp
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: The changes that [[spoiler:the Horvath retrovirus]] makes are not really possible without rewriting genetic code from the ground up.
6th Oct '15 10:13:09 AM Nohbody
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* GermanicDepressives: At the start of ''Live Free or Die'' when astronomers are trying to figure out what the [[PortalNetwork Grtul gate]] actually is as it moves into the solar system, one character asks if it's a joke. He's told that they were notified of it by the Max Planck Institute in Germany, which prompts the conclusion that it's not a prank, as Germans "[f]amously don't have a sense of humor".



--->'''Tyler''': ''[[CrazyEnoughToWork If itís crazy but it works...]]''
--->'''Granadica''': '' 'It's not crazy.' You humans are the only sophonts in this galactic region to have that saying. Most people just go with '[[YoureInsane that's crazy]]'.''

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--->'''Tyler''': ''[[CrazyEnoughToWork If itís crazy but it works...]]''
--->'''Granadica''':
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'''Granadica''':
'' 'It's not crazy.' You humans are the only sophonts in this galactic region to have that saying. Most people just go with '[[YoureInsane that's crazy]]'.''



* OrionDrive: Troy adds an OrionDrive so that it can get to the PortalNetwork and go crush enemy alien fleets out-system. Upon first seeing the Troy begin detonating the bombs, the aliens think it's been hit, only to [[LaughingMad suddenly realize it's actually the drive.]]

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* OrionDrive: Troy adds an OrionDrive Orion drive so that it can get to the PortalNetwork and go crush enemy alien fleets out-system. Upon first seeing the Troy begin detonating the bombs, the aliens think it's been hit, only to [[LaughingMad suddenly realize it's actually the drive.]]



** Scattered throughout the book there are enough shoutouts to cause alcohol poisoning if you turn it into a {{drinking game}}. Further examples include a ship captain ordering the helm to a course with [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration "Make it so."]], a gas mine called [[StarWars "Bespin"]] and the decision to have turns in the battle station's missile tubes is inspired by the need to [[StarWars "stop the farmboy dropping an energy torpedo into the main power plant."]] References to ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' are uncountable. It's worth noting that most of the Shout Outs are being done by the characters on purpose.

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** Scattered throughout the book there are enough shoutouts to cause alcohol poisoning if you turn it into a {{drinking game}}.DrinkingGame. Further examples include a ship captain ordering the helm to a course with [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration "Make it so."]], a gas mine called [[StarWars "Bespin"]] and the decision to have turns in the battle station's missile tubes is inspired by the need to [[StarWars "stop the farmboy dropping an energy torpedo into the main power plant."]] References to ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' are uncountable. It's worth noting that most of the Shout Outs are being done by the characters on purpose.



** The trope title is nearly quoted word for word in ''The Hot Gate'', in regards to 20,000 human missiles sent at a Rangoran AV that had its point defense systems almost completely destroyed.

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** The trope title is nearly quoted word for word in ''The Hot Gate'', in regards to 20,000 human missiles sent at a Rangoran AV that had already had its point defense systems almost completely destroyed.
4th Sep '15 12:44:13 PM Kalaong
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** The last three might almost be considered "Deconstruction," rather than personal opinion, as so many sci-fi series gloss over the dangers of being out in the airless void of space, with only a thin metal can keeping you from having your blood boil out your eye sockets. The other ones, those can be argued one way or another... but who's going to say "Maintenance on the ship keeping us from ''dying''" is bad?

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** The last three might almost be considered "Deconstruction," rather than personal opinion, as so many sci-fi series gloss over the dangers of being out in the airless void of space, with only a thin metal can keeping you from having preventing your blood boil from boiling out of your eye sockets. The other ones, those can be argued one way or another... but who's going to say "Maintenance on the ship keeping us from ''dying''" is bad?
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