History Literature / TillWeHaveFaces

27th Jul '17 2:49:03 PM Timurlame
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* OneOfTheBoys: Orual becomes this. She's not ''trying'' to appear more masculine, but her ugliness makes it hard for Glomish men to perceive her as a woman, and so they treat her more like a man. When she takes her veil people at least start to acknowledge her as a ''Queen'', but old acquaintances like Bardia still treat her more like they would a younger male relative than a woman. Orual has... mixed feelings about all this.

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* OneOfTheBoys: Orual becomes this. She's not ''trying'' to appear more masculine, but her ugliness makes it hard for Glomish men to perceive her as a woman, and so they treat her more like a man. When she takes her veil people at least start to acknowledge her as a ''Queen'', queen, but old acquaintances like Bardia still treat her more like they would a younger male relative than a woman. Orual has... mixed feelings about all this.
27th Jul '17 2:48:29 PM Timurlame
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* OneOfTheBoys: Orual becomes this. She's not ''trying'' to appear more masculine, but her ugliness makes it hard for Glomish men to perceive her as a woman, and so they treat her more like a man. When she takes her veil people at least start to acknowledge her as a ''Queen'', but old acquaintances like Bardia still treat her more like they would a younger male relative than a woman. Orual has... mixed feelings about all this.
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: The Fox is simply the Fox for nearly the entire novel, and is only once referred to by his real name, Lysias.



* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: The Fox is simply the Fox for nearly the entire novel, and is only once referred to by his real name, Lysias.
22nd Jul '17 4:15:10 PM Timurlame
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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Istra, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].

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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Istra, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche Istra was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].
20th Jul '17 5:26:12 PM Timurlame
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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Psyche, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].

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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Psyche, Istra, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].
20th Jul '17 5:22:35 PM Timurlame
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* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: The Fox paints Greek society as the Classical Era equivalent, and makes it a point that the Greek philosophers of his time have a much less mystical understanding of the gods than the people of Glome. He doesn't exactly disbelieve, but he equates the gods with natural forces, and discourages Orual from anthropomorphizing them. [[spoiler: Subverted in the end.]]
20th Jul '17 1:30:42 AM Timurlame
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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Psyche, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].
20th Jul '17 1:24:59 AM Timurlame
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* IJustWantToBeLoved: Arguably Redival; almost all named characters hold her in contempt, and her flirtatiousness could be seen as a desperate attempt to find ''somebody'' who likes her. Hammered home close to the end.



* StarCrossedLovers: Orual and the married Bardia.

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* StarCrossedLovers: Orual and the married Bardia.Bardia, though Bardia only really sees Orual as a comrade-in-arms.
29th Mar '17 6:55:46 PM LordOfTheSword
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'''This novel provides examples of:'''

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'''This novel provides examples of:'''
!!''Till We Have Faces'' includes the following tropes:
2nd Mar '17 9:20:03 AM Timurlame
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** Orual: He spoke it as kindly and heartily as could be; as if a man dashed a gallon of cold water in your broth and never doubted you'd like it all the better.

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** Orual: -->Orual: He spoke it as kindly and heartily as could be; as if a man dashed a gallon of cold water in your broth and never doubted you'd like it all the better.
2nd Mar '17 9:18:06 AM Timurlame
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: Bardia is genuinely fond of Orual, and very impressed with her proficiency at swordplay. Unfortunately, he expresses the latter to her by saying "It's a thousand pities [the gods] didn't make [Orual] a man."
** Orual: He spoke it as kindly and heartily as could be; as if a man dashed a gallon of cold water in your broth and never doubted you'd like it all the better.
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