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12th Mar '18 5:18:20 PM Jeduthun
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* OverlyNarrowSuperlative: When listing her achievements as queen, Orual takes pride in having built the library of Glome, "what was, for a barbarous land, a noble library-- eighteen works in all."
12th Jan '18 11:27:11 AM Jeduthun
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* LadyOfWar: Orual.

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* LadyOfWar: Orual.Orual, as queen, becomes a successful commander of Glome's armies and is also skilled in single combat.



* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: It's kept ambiguous whether the mysterious events attributed to the Gods actually ''are'' divine in nature. [[spoiler: Up until the moment that Orual sees the God of the Mountain with her own eyes.]]

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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: It's kept ambiguous whether the mysterious events attributed to the Gods actually ''are'' divine in nature. [[spoiler: Up until the moment that Orual sees the God of the Mountain with her own eyes.]]]] This is one of Orual's chief complaints throughout the narrative: the gods expect us to believe in them but refuse to provide any clear evidence.
12th Jan '18 11:19:59 AM Jeduthun
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* WorldsMostBeautifulWoman: Istra.

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* WorldsMostBeautifulWoman: Istra. In keeping with the ClassicalMythology tradition, this causes problems when she receives BlasphemousPraise as "prettier than Aphrodite herself."
22nd Oct '17 12:39:26 AM WillBGood
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** In the early part of the book, between the Fox's Greek philosophy and the beliefs of Glome, which sanction the occasional human sacrifice, castration of a man who flirts with the King's daughter, among other [[SarcasmMode pleasant things]].

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** In the early part of the book, between the Fox's Greek philosophy and the beliefs of Glome, which sanction the occasional human sacrifice, sacrifice and castration of a man who flirts with the King's daughter, among other [[SarcasmMode pleasant things]].things.
27th Jul '17 2:49:03 PM Timurlame
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* OneOfTheBoys: Orual becomes this. She's not ''trying'' to appear more masculine, but her ugliness makes it hard for Glomish men to perceive her as a woman, and so they treat her more like a man. When she takes her veil people at least start to acknowledge her as a ''Queen'', but old acquaintances like Bardia still treat her more like they would a younger male relative than a woman. Orual has... mixed feelings about all this.

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* OneOfTheBoys: Orual becomes this. She's not ''trying'' to appear more masculine, but her ugliness makes it hard for Glomish men to perceive her as a woman, and so they treat her more like a man. When she takes her veil people at least start to acknowledge her as a ''Queen'', queen, but old acquaintances like Bardia still treat her more like they would a younger male relative than a woman. Orual has... mixed feelings about all this.
27th Jul '17 2:48:29 PM Timurlame
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* OneOfTheBoys: Orual becomes this. She's not ''trying'' to appear more masculine, but her ugliness makes it hard for Glomish men to perceive her as a woman, and so they treat her more like a man. When she takes her veil people at least start to acknowledge her as a ''Queen'', but old acquaintances like Bardia still treat her more like they would a younger male relative than a woman. Orual has... mixed feelings about all this.
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: The Fox is simply the Fox for nearly the entire novel, and is only once referred to by his real name, Lysias.



* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: The Fox is simply the Fox for nearly the entire novel, and is only once referred to by his real name, Lysias.
22nd Jul '17 4:15:10 PM Timurlame
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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Istra, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].

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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Istra, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche Istra was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].
20th Jul '17 5:26:12 PM Timurlame
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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Psyche, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].

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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Psyche, Istra, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].
20th Jul '17 5:22:35 PM Timurlame
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* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: The Fox paints Greek society as the Classical Era equivalent, and makes it a point that the Greek philosophers of his time have a much less mystical understanding of the gods than the people of Glome. He doesn't exactly disbelieve, but he equates the gods with natural forces, and discourages Orual from anthropomorphizing them. [[spoiler: Subverted in the end.]]
20th Jul '17 1:30:42 AM Timurlame
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* AlwaysSecondBest: Redival is beautiful, but not nearly as beautiful as Psyche, which is a major source of bitterness for her. Towards the end, [[spoiler: it's revealed that Redival felt abandoned by Orual and the Fox after Psyche was born. Orual realizes it's a valid grievance, even if Redival was bratty about it]].
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