History Literature / TheSpaceTrilogy

23rd Jan '17 3:06:38 AM JakesBrain
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** See also Deconstruction. Weston gives a philosophical speech in English with some very stirring rhetoric; Ransom translates it into Old Solar, but he can only get across the basic ideas, not the rhetoric. The ideas ''are'' accurately conveyed, more or less, but stripped of their high-minded vocabulary they sound banal, or outright barbaric; when Weston says that "Life itself is more valuable than any system of morality," Ransom flails around for an adequate translation before arriving at the rough equivalency, "It is better to be alive and bent than to be dead."

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** See also Deconstruction. Weston gives a philosophical speech in English with some very stirring rhetoric; Ransom translates it into Old Solar, but he can only get across the basic ideas, not the rhetoric. The ideas ''are'' accurately conveyed, more or less, but stripped of their high-minded vocabulary they sound banal, or outright barbaric; when Weston says that "Life itself is more valuable than any system of morality," Ransom admits to Oyarsa that he has literally no idea how to say this in Malacandrian, and flails around for an adequate translation before arriving at the rough equivalency, equivalency: "It is better to be alive and bent than to be dead."
13th Jan '17 9:23:53 AM Orome
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* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Ransom is forced to physically fight with the Un-Man after weeks of debating and arguing have failed. Ransom is initially appalled by the idea and uses it only as a last resort. He also knows he has a very good chance of dying in the attempt.
16th Dec '16 6:24:58 AM ReaderAt2046
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** Also {{Justified}} in that that's the entire reason Merlin is there in the first place. The holy angels needed a magician to act through in order to deal with Belbury, but magic has been strictly forbidden for centuries. So God set aside Merlin, who had practiced magic back when it was still permissible, to be a vessel for his servants.
12th Oct '16 3:07:45 PM roxana
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** Also {{Averted}} in an interesting way in the dress-up scene. The dressing room contains no mirrors, and none of the women can see why the dress ''they're'' wearing is so incredibly beautiful on them, though they can all see it on each other - which illustrates the point (on humility - think of others, not of yourself).

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** Also {{Averted}} in an interesting way in the dress-up scene. The dressing room contains no mirrors, and none of the women can see why the dress ''they're'' wearing is so incredibly beautiful on them, though they can all see it on each other - which illustrates the point (on humility - think of others, not of yourself). Jane Studdock for example thinks her dress is too fussy, though blue ''is'' her color. But the others like it on her so she wears it - and promptly forgets all about it in the interest of choosing dresses for the others.
19th Sep '16 11:00:16 AM SpectralTime
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** See also Deconstruction. Weston gives a philosophical speech in English with some very stirring rhetoric; Ransom translates it into Old Solar, but he can only get across the basic ideas, not the rhetoric. The ideas ''are'' accurately conveyed, more or less, but stripped of their high-minded vocabulary they sound banal, or outright barbaric; when Weston says that "Life itself is more valuable than any system of morality," Ransom flails around for an adequate translation before admitting that he cannot think of one.
*** I thought his second attempt, "it is better to be alive and bent than to be dead", was pretty good.

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** See also Deconstruction. Weston gives a philosophical speech in English with some very stirring rhetoric; Ransom translates it into Old Solar, but he can only get across the basic ideas, not the rhetoric. The ideas ''are'' accurately conveyed, more or less, but stripped of their high-minded vocabulary they sound banal, or outright barbaric; when Weston says that "Life itself is more valuable than any system of morality," Ransom flails around for an adequate translation before admitting that he cannot think of one.
*** I thought his second attempt, "it
arriving at the rough equivalency, "It is better to be alive and bent than to be dead", was pretty good.
dead."
19th Sep '16 10:38:57 AM Orome
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* NotWhatISignedOnFor: In ''That Hideous Strength'' Bill "The Blizzard" Hingest joined the N.I.C.E. because he believed it was actually about science, and resigned as soon as he found out it was really about social engineering.

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* NotWhatISignedOnFor: In ''That Hideous Strength'' Bill "The Blizzard" Hingest joined the N.I.C.E. because he believed it was actually about science, and resigned as soon as he found out it was really about social engineering.engineering and transhumanism.
19th Sep '16 10:34:08 AM Orome
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* HeKnowsTooMuch: [[spoiler: This is why Hingest is murdered after he resigns from the N.I.C.E.]]


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* NotWhatISignedOnFor: In ''That Hideous Strength'' Bill "The Blizzard" Hingest joined the N.I.C.E. because he believed it was actually about science, and resigned as soon as he found out it was really about social engineering.
6th Sep '16 8:16:44 PM TheGreatSkrond
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*** I thought his second attempt, "it is better to be alive and bent than to be dead", was pretty good.
4th Sep '16 7:40:07 PM PaulA
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* VenusIsWet: Perelandra is an ocean world where the only piece of dry land is a mountain emerging from the depths and all the inhabitants live on enormous rafts of matted plant life.
17th Aug '16 7:58:25 AM SpectralTime
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** ''Out Of The Silent Planet'' is a fictionalized version of Lewis' essay "Religion and Rocketry", describing how extraterrestrial life could be reconciled with Christian theology. It is also a deconstruction of the colonial ideals often found in sci-fi of the time.

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** ''Out Of The Silent Planet'' is a fictionalized version of Lewis' essay "Religion and Rocketry", describing how extraterrestrial life could be reconciled with Christian theology. It is also a deconstruction of the colonial ideals often found in sci-fi of the time.time through the "judgement scene," where Weston has to attempt to justify his worldview to an angel that doesn't speak his language. He needs to resort to the interpretive services of Ransom, who can only convey his speech very simplistically, and who is not necessarily sympathetic to many of his opinions. The obvious point is that, stripped of rhetorical flourish, many of Weston's seemingly high-minded ideals start to sound almost barbaric.
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