History Literature / TheSilverChair

9th Oct '17 8:17:39 PM Chariset
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* ExactWords: The Lady of the Green Kirtle sends the giants "two children for the Autumn Feast." She neglects to tell them what giants ''eat'' at the Autumn Feast...



* IAteWhat: See below.
* ImAHumanitarian: Not literally, but it's mentioned that, in Narnian culture, eating talking animals is considered equivalent to cannibalism, as they have human-level intelligence. When Puddleglum finds out [[IAteWhat what the giants served him]], he has a massive attack of FridgeHorror and is momentarily almost DrivenToSuicide.

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* IAteWhat: See below.
When the protagonists learn that they have been eating a Talking Stag.
* ImAHumanitarian: Not literally, but it's mentioned that, in Narnian culture, eating talking animals is considered equivalent to cannibalism, as they have human-level intelligence. When Puddleglum finds out [[IAteWhat what the giants served him]], he has a massive attack of FridgeHorror and is momentarily almost DrivenToSuicide.FridgeHorror, the way you might feel if you learned you'd been eating a baby.
29th Sep '17 7:25:04 PM Tarlonniel
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* ToServeMan: The "gentle giants" are quite happy that the Lady of the Green Kirtle sent the three heroes to them for the Autumn Feast...

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* ToServeMan: The "gentle giants" are quite happy that the Lady of the Green Kirtle sent the three heroes sends Scrubb and Pole to Harfang with instructions to greet their hosts from her and say she is sending them two Southern children for the Autumn Feast...Feast. [[spoiler: "It's a cookbook," indeed - they literally find one.]]
29th Sep '17 7:18:46 PM Tarlonniel
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* DistressedDude: [[spoiler: Rilian]] is under the enchantment of the evil Lady of the Green Kirtle. Jill, Eustace, and Puddleglum rescue him.
29th Sep '17 7:14:38 PM Tarlonniel
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* CuckooNest: The brainwashing sequence.

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* CuckooNest: The brainwashing sequence.Lady of the Green Kirtle attempts to {{brainwash}} the heroes into believing that Narnia was a dream and that her kingdom is the only real world.
7th Jun '17 9:20:06 PM Fireblood
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* StrawHypocrite: The Lady of the Green Kirtle comes off as an atheist trying to convince the protagonists that Aslan (along with the world up above) don't actually exist, but it turns out that she knows very well they do. It was just an evil scheme for confusing them.
14th Apr '17 4:56:25 PM Fireblood
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** Though the other Marsh-wiggles don't get much screen time, it's shown (in part by other Narnian's reactions to Puddleglum) that it's the entire species' [[PlanetOfHats hat]]; Puddleglum [[InformedAttribute is said to be]] one of the most ''optimistic'' examples.

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** Though the other Marsh-wiggles don't get much screen time, it's shown (in part by other Narnian's reactions to Puddleglum) that it's the entire species' [[PlanetOfHats hat]]; Puddleglum [[InformedAttribute is said to be]] one of the most ''optimistic'' examples. We can only imagine how depressing the others must be.


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* PrefersTheIllusion: When faced with the Lady of the Green Kirtle's claim that Aslan and Narnia are simply things they dreamed up, Puddleglum answers that if that's true he prefers them to reality.
16th Dec '16 5:34:09 AM Johntoxable
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** Specifically, the Lady of the Green Kirtle's arguments are all based on the {{Genetic Fallacy}}, to dismiss an idea on the basis of its origin. All the more egregious for the fact that the Lady knows full well that both Aslan and the outside world exist. Of course, the magic of her harp makes the arguments more convincing to the protagonists than they otherwise would be.

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** Specifically, the Lady of the Green Kirtle's arguments are all based on the {{Genetic Fallacy}}, to dismiss an idea on the basis of its origin. All the more egregious for the fact that the Lady knows full well that both Aslan and the outside world exist. Of course, the magic of her harp mandolin makes the arguments more convincing to the protagonists than they otherwise would be.
16th Dec '16 5:30:58 AM Johntoxable
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* AuthorTract: At the end of the book, where the Lady of the Green Kirtle is set up as a HollywoodAtheist of the "completely evil" variety and Lewis puts into her mouth some deliberately skewed philosophical arguments against the existence of Aslan, although given her supernatural powers, she could be read as more like a demon than an atheist. Though she certainly is ''tempting'' the protagonists to atheism.

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* AuthorTract: At the end of the book, where the Lady of the Green Kirtle is set up as a HollywoodAtheist of the "completely evil" variety and Lewis puts into her mouth some deliberately skewed dubious philosophical arguments against the existence of Aslan, although given her supernatural powers, she could be read as more like a demon than an atheist. Though she certainly is ''tempting'' the protagonists to atheism.atheism.
** Specifically, the Lady of the Green Kirtle's arguments are all based on the {{Genetic Fallacy}}, to dismiss an idea on the basis of its origin. All the more egregious for the fact that the Lady knows full well that both Aslan and the outside world exist. Of course, the magic of her harp makes the arguments more convincing to the protagonists than they otherwise would be.
27th Nov '16 3:10:50 PM nombretomado
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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: A subtle example. Eustace and Jill hear the tale of TheHorseAndHisBoy (which had not been published at the time) while in Cair Paravel. [[spoiler: The narration describes it as "the grand old tale of ''Prince Cor'' and Aravis and the horse Bree", spoiling Shasta's true identity.]]

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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: A subtle example. Eustace and Jill hear the tale of TheHorseAndHisBoy ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'' (which had not been published at the time) while in Cair Paravel. [[spoiler: The narration describes it as "the grand old tale of ''Prince Cor'' and Aravis and the horse Bree", spoiling Shasta's true identity.]]
31st Jul '16 2:34:10 AM Fireblood
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* EskimosArentReal: The Lady of the Green Kirtle claims not to believe in lions or any other aspect of the outside world. She's lying, but she nearly bewitches the overlanders into agreeing with her. This is a typical Creator/CSLewis allegory; in order to describe Aslan or Narnia to the Lady who says they don't exist, they have to do so in terms of things that she ''does'' accept the existence of, allowing her to dismiss it with "So you made up a bigger version of a cat, and called it a lion", in the same way as heaven, whether or not it exists, can clearly only described in terms of the mortal world by those who haven't experienced it (which may be everyone).

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* EskimosArentReal: The Lady of the Green Kirtle claims not to believe in lions or any other aspect of the outside world. She's lying, but she nearly bewitches the overlanders into agreeing with her. This is a typical Creator/CSLewis allegory; in order to describe Aslan or Narnia to the Lady who says they don't exist, they have to do so in terms of things that she ''does'' accept the existence of, allowing her to dismiss it with "So you made up a bigger version of a cat, and called it a lion", in the same way as heaven, whether or not it exists, can clearly only be described in terms of the mortal world by those who haven't experienced it (which may be everyone).



* KickedUpstairs: This happens to the Head of [[BoardingSchoolOfHorrors Experiment House]], after it is revealed that she is utterly incompetent at running the school. Played for laughs when she ends up in Parliament.

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* KickedUpstairs: This happens to the Head of [[BoardingSchoolOfHorrors Experiment House]], after it is revealed that she is utterly incompetent at running the school. Played {{Played for laughs laughs}} when she ends up in Parliament.



* LetsMeetTheMeat: Subverted in that [[spoiler:Puddleglum overhears some giants talking about the stag they were eating and how it had ''told'' them that it was tough and that they would not like it. Cue in-universe FridgeHorror]].

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* LetsMeetTheMeat: Subverted {{Subverted}} in that [[spoiler:Puddleglum overhears some giants talking about the stag they were eating and how it had ''told'' them that it was tough and that they would not like it. Cue in-universe FridgeHorror]].



* PlotSensitiveLatch: Near the beginning, Eustace and Jill are escaping from some bullies towards a door that is always locked, and of course it turns to be unlocked. Justified in that Aslan has magically caused this to happen, but they don't know it at the time.

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* PlotSensitiveLatch: Near the beginning, Eustace and Jill are escaping from some bullies towards a door that is always locked, and of course it turns to be unlocked. Justified [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that Aslan has magically caused this to happen, but they don't know it at the time.
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