History Literature / ThePostman

18th Jul '17 11:51:45 AM Jan_z_Michal
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* ChosenConceptionPartner: Having mumps as an adult rendered Michael infertile. While he and Abby are both HappilyMarried, they also want to have a child ''and'' to avoid the genetic bottleneck effect they ask Gordon, and outside drifter, to try to impregnate Abby. The book somehow manages to handle it without making it as awkward as it sounds and it doesn't carry any romantic undertones, unlike the infamous RomanticPlotTumor from the film adaptation. [[spoiler: Gordon never again visits Pine View and intentionally distance himself from the child]].

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* ChosenConceptionPartner: Having mumps as an adult rendered Michael infertile. While he and Abby are both HappilyMarried, they also want to have a child ''and'' to child. To avoid the genetic bottleneck effect and friction with locally-picked father, they ask Gordon, and outside drifter, to try to impregnate Abby. The book somehow manages to handle it without making it as awkward as it sounds and it doesn't carry any romantic undertones, unlike the infamous RomanticPlotTumor from the film adaptation. [[spoiler: Gordon never again visits Pine View and intentionally distance himself from the child]].
18th Jul '17 8:56:34 AM Leporidae
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* InstantAIJustAddWater: Averted. The pre-war [=AI=] computers were a step between real [=AI=] and standard mega-computer, build on specially designed processors and components. Only if running sufficiently long, they could reach true sentience going beyond ability to answer questions and solving equations on their own. [[spoiler: Which makes Cyclops death even more shattering]].

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* InstantAIJustAddWater: Averted. The pre-war [=AI=] computers were a step between real [=AI=] and standard mega-computer, build on specially designed processors and components. Only if running sufficiently long, they could reach true sentience going beyond ability to answer questions and solving equations on their own. [[spoiler: Which makes Cyclops Cyclops' death even more shattering]].



* NostalgiaFilter: Often invoked by different characters toward pre-war world. People tend to sing commercial jingles just to recall good old times.

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* NostalgiaFilter: Often invoked by different characters toward pre-war world. People tend to sing commercial jingles just to recall good old times. Also part of what makes Gordon's masquerade so effective: of all the hallmarks of civilization before the collapse, the accessibility of the postal service and the positive connotations it held make it a symbol that survivors latched onto immediately. One survivor fondly reminisces on how their father would leave out a glass of whiskey for the mail carrier every Christmas.
11th Jun '17 4:35:11 AM Jan_z_Michal
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Subverted. Remember those robbers from the first chapter and who Gordon apparently left alone? [[spoiler: They manage to bite his ass ''twice'', when their leader returns in the third part of the book, as a freshly recruited Holnist, along with Gordon's diary, the only existing proof that there is no such thing as Restored United States. General Macklin couldn't be more happy about all of this]].
11th Jun '17 4:27:45 AM Jan_z_Michal
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* HelpfulHallucination: Although they can't take direct action, all of Gordon's "ghosts" - [[spoiler: Cyclops, Johnny Stevens, the Army Scouts, dream-Ben Franklin and his chess-playing stove, the original postman etc.]] - appear to encourage him toward the end.



* NotTooDeadToSaveTheDay: Although they don't take direct action, all of Gordon's "ghosts" - [[spoiler: Cyclops, Johnny Stevens, the Army Scouts, dream-Ben Franklin and his chess-playing stove, etc.]] - appear to encourage him toward the end.
10th Jun '17 3:00:27 PM Jan_z_Michal
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* GoodIsNotSoft: People from the Willamette Valley are decent and good folks, but they live in a violent world and will not hesitate to use lethal force the second they realize it's necessary.

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* GoodIsNotSoft: Given the nature of the setting itself, it's a given
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People from the Willamette Valley are decent and good folks, but they live in a violent world and will not hesitate to use lethal force the second they realize it's necessary.necessary.
** Gordon himself. The very first chapter of the book opens with portraying him as nice and civil guy who just tries to survive. Which in given situation means preparing to shot in cold blood four robbers who just have stolen most of his belongings.
10th Jun '17 2:37:08 PM Jan_z_Michal
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* ChosenConceptionPartner: Having mumps as an adult rendered Michael infertile. While he and Abby are both HappilyMarried, they also want to have a child ''and'' to avoid the genetic bottleneck effect they ask Gordon, and outside drifter, to try to impregnate Abby. The book somehow manages to handle it without making it as awkward as it sounds and it doesn't carry any romantic undertones, unlike the infamous RomanticPlotTumor from the film adaptation. [[spoiler: Gordon never again visits Pine View and intentionally distance himself from the child]].



* SexyDiscretionShot: Right before Gordon and Abby are about to get busy, the chapter ends. The next one starts after their last encounter. [[TropesAreNotBad It works]], [[ParentalSubstitute given the nature of their deal]].

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* SexyDiscretionShot: Right before Gordon and Abby are about to get busy, the chapter ends. The next one starts after their last encounter. [[TropesAreNotBad It works]], [[ParentalSubstitute [[ChosenConceptionPartner given the nature of their deal]].
10th Dec '16 10:00:23 AM Specialist290
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* BecomingTheBoast: While he initially only took on the guise of a postman to save his own skin, Gordon carries the bluff far enough that he actually manages to put together a functioning postal system.



* SherlockScan: How Gordon deducted that [[spoiler: Cyclops is dead and the whole thing is just a masquerade]] - he tied together numerous, disconnected clues and then confronted his theory.

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* SherlockScan: How Gordon deducted deduced that [[spoiler: Cyclops is dead and the whole thing is just a masquerade]] - he tied together numerous, disconnected clues and then confronted his theory.
21st Nov '16 11:34:57 AM LBHills
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* ActionSurvivor: Gordon, who most of the time just barely survives.

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* ActionSurvivor: Gordon, who most is regularly out of the time just barely survives.his depth and survives by guile or luck..



* AmazonBrigade: Dena's Army Scouts. [[spoiler: They are almost entirely wiped out after a failed plot to infiltrate and sabotage the Holnists.]]
* AmericaSavesTheDay: In a sense. [[spoiler:In that the Restored United States of America ultimately becomes very much real.]]
* ApocalypseHow: Continental/Societal Collapse. Unusually, there was not one single cause of the Doomwar. In fact, humanity probably could have weathered the nukes, the electromagnetic pulses, and the bioengineered diseases if not for the predatory, hypersurvivalist Holnists who took advantage of the situation.
* TheApunkalypse: The rule of law has collapsed AfterTheEnd, and bands of toughs roam the countryside roughing people up.

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* AmazonBrigade: Dena's Army Scouts. [[spoiler: They are almost entirely wiped out after a failed plot attempt to infiltrate and sabotage the Holnists.]]
* AmericaSavesTheDay: In a sense. [[spoiler:In that the [[spoiler: The Restored United States of America starts as a lie and ultimately becomes very much real.]]
* ApocalypseHow: Continental/Societal Collapse. Unusually, there was not one single cause of the Doomwar. In fact, humanity probably could have weathered the nukes, the electromagnetic pulses, and the bioengineered diseases if not for the predatory, hypersurvivalist hyper-survivalist Holnists who took advantage pounced on other bands of the situation.
survivors without mercy.
* TheApunkalypse: The rule of law has collapsed AfterTheEnd, and bands of toughs brigands roam the countryside roughing people up.engaged in assault, rape and murder.



* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: The followers of Nathan Holn's philosophy will ''only'' accept orders from someone that they know can kill them. They generally don't murder their superiors by treachery or stealth, since that wouldn't prove who was 'better'.



* BasedOnAGreatBigLie / LiesToChildren: Gordon the Postman and his Restored United States of America [[spoiler: and Cyclops]].

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* BasedOnAGreatBigLie / LiesToChildren: Gordon the Postman and his 'The Postman' has arrived from 'The Restored United States of America States' to save the Northwest. [[spoiler: and Cyclops]].Cyclops turns out to be one as well.]].



* BlackComedy: The only comedy allowed. [[TropesAreNotBad And it works]].

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* BlackComedy: The only comedy allowed. [[TropesAreNotBad And it works]].But it's fitting]].



** [[spoiler:When Corvallis was attacked by the Anti-Tech Mob, the remnants of the local military arrived when the damage was already done and Cyclops was dying]].

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** [[spoiler:When [[spoiler: When Corvallis was attacked by the Anti-Tech Mob, anti-tech mob, the remnants of the local military arrived when the damage was already done and Cyclops was dying]].



* ComesGreatResponsibility: A recurring theme, even if that power is the position of postman.
* ConMan: By pure chance Gordon ends up in a grand scheme as the mastermind behind it. It almost seems like he's made a postman [[YouCantFightFate by fate and can't do anything about it]].
* ConspiracyTheorist: Nathan Holn, a bat-shit insane nutcase. Everyone, including people born after the Doomwar (and thus lacking any serious education), wonder how he could get any support for his ideas.

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* ComesGreatResponsibility: A recurring theme, even if that power is the seemingly-innocuous position of postman.
* ConMan: By pure chance chance, Gordon ends up in a grand scheme as the mastermind behind it. It almost seems like he's made a postman [[YouCantFightFate by fate and can't do anything about it]].
* ConspiracyTheorist: Nathan Holn, a bat-shit insane nutcase. Everyone, including people born after the Doomwar (and thus lacking any serious education), wonder how he could get any support for his ideas. Except, of course, the Holnists who have taken his MightMakesRight philosophy even further.



* CrazyHomelessPeople: Gordon ''perceives himself'' as such, since he can find no other logical explanation than insanity for his optimism in this CrapsackWorld.

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* CrazyHomelessPeople: Gordon ''perceives himself'' perceives ''himself'' as such, since he can find no other logical explanation than insanity for his optimism in this CrapsackWorld.



** In the backstory, this eventually led to the fall of civilisation, since all the increasingly shattered communities eventually stopped any cooperation and just sealed themselves from outsiders, in the process becoming very easy prey for even small groups of bandits and Holnists.

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** In the backstory, this eventually led to the fall of civilisation, since all the increasingly shattered communities eventually stopped any cooperation and just sealed themselves away from outsiders, in the process becoming very easy prey for even small groups of bandits and Holnists.



* DividedWeFall: The only reason why Holnists or just regular thugs and bandits can thrive is lack of cooperation and unity on the side of the communities they opress. The book as a whole makes a point to explain civilisation and society as we know it can exist when and only when people work together for shared goals, putting aside their petty personal gains. This was written [[{{Greed}} in the 80s]].
* TheDogBitesBack: After a long time of mistreatment, [[spoiler:one of the Holnist slaves poisons few guards and helps Gordon and Johnny escape. She even manages to arrange retrival of Gordon's diary without realising how important it is]].

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* DividedWeFall: The only reason why Holnists or just regular thugs and bandits can thrive is lack of cooperation and unity on the side of the communities they opress. oppress. The book as a whole makes it a point to explain that civilisation and society as we know it can exist when and only when people work together for shared goals, putting aside the group ahead of their petty personal gains.own ambitions. This was written [[{{Greed}} in the 80s]].
* TheDogBitesBack: After a long time of mistreatment, [[spoiler:one of the Holnist slaves poisons a few guards and helps Gordon and Johnny escape. She even manages to arrange retrival the retrieval of Gordon's diary without realising how important it is]].



* [[spoiler: DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale]]: [[spoiler: Dena is quite forcible with Gordon]]. It seems to keep on going for a while and he's forced to simply endure her.

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* [[spoiler: DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale]]: [[spoiler: Dena is quite forcible forceful with Gordon]]. It seems to keep on going for a while and he's forced to simply endure her.



* {{Eagleland}}: Curious case - Type I with all its liberty, equality and peaceful ways is contrasted with Type II for its paranoia, gung-ho attitude, over-the-top individualism and extremism.

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* {{Eagleland}}: Curious case - The book examines both sides of this dualistic trope. Type I with all its liberty, equality and peaceful ways is contrasted with Type II for its paranoia, paranoid extremism, gung-ho attitude, and over-the-top individualism and extremism.individualism.



* EvilCannotComprehendGood: BIG time; Holnists are completely unable to comprehend anything that is not made or achieved by brute force or how men are supposed to be equal.

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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: BIG time; Holnists are completely unable to comprehend Those who have bought into the Holnist philosophy believe that [[MightMakesRight anything that is not made or achieved you can acquire by brute force is rightfully yours,]] and [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain this makes women inherently inferior.]] They choose to disdain all philosophies of equality or how men are supposed to be equal.teamwork as delusions among those 'frightened' of this 'reality'.



* FauxAffablyEvil: Charles Bezoar tries to pass for a decent person for a while, but the illusion shatters in no time, [[spoiler: with just few tiny pushes made by Gordon]].
* FeudalFuture: Countless communities were either reduced into clan-like organisations or outright serfdom under some strongman. Then there is the land under Holnist rule, which is divided into baronies - hell-holes with brutal slavery and servitude for local "lord".

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* FauxAffablyEvil: Charles Bezoar tries to pass for a decent person for a while, but the illusion shatters in no time, eventually, [[spoiler: with just a few tiny pushes made by Gordon]].
* FeudalFuture: Countless communities were either reduced into clan-like organisations or outright serfdom under some strongman. Then there is the land under Holnist rule, which is divided into baronies - hell-holes with brutal slavery and servitude where everybody except the local brute-squad are slaves for some local "lord".



* GoneHorriblyRight: Augment program gave the exact effects it was supposed to give by outfitting agressive and unstable soldiers with cybernetic enhancements to additionally strengthen them. It was almost instantly cancelled and at least part of involved soldiers were BroughtDownToNormal before the Doomwar.

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* GoneHorriblyRight: Augment program gave Government research before the exact effects it was supposed to give by outfitting agressive and unstable soldiers with Doomwar used cybernetic enhancements to additionally strengthen them. It create SuperSoldier forces... [[IdiotBall without considering the psychological effects this would have on aggressive personalities.]] This research into 'augments' was almost instantly cancelled soon cancelled, and at least part most of the soldiers involved soldiers were BroughtDownToNormal before the Doomwar. [[spoiler: A second program, with a little more thought put into it, followed.]]



* GoodIsNotSoft: People from Willamette Valley are decent and good folks, but ''will'' kill you without as much as a blink of an eye if forced to do so.
* TheGreatPoliticsMessUp: It's hinted that the Soviet Union survived until the Doomwar or was topped by violent revolution right before it. The war took place in the mid-90's.

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* GoodIsNotSoft: People from the Willamette Valley are decent and good folks, but ''will'' kill you without as much as they live in a blink of an eye if forced violent world and will not hesitate to do so.
use lethal force the second they realize it's necessary.
* TheGreatPoliticsMessUp: It's hinted that the Soviet Union survived until the Doomwar Doomwar, or was topped toppled by violent revolution right before it. The war took place in the mid-90's.
21st Nov '16 11:14:06 AM LBHills
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* TheDreaded: Inverted with the Holnists - they are generally feared, but hated even more. Whenever there is an occassion for that, people ''gang'' on small packs of them.

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* TheDreaded: Inverted with the Holnists - they are generally feared, but hated even more. Whenever there is an occassion for that, Large bands of Holnists can force people ''gang'' on small packs into submission, but if any of them. them are caught alone, the common people will show no mercy.



* {{Eagleland}}: Curious case - Type I with all it's liberty, equality and peaceful ways is contrasted with Type II for its paranoia, gung-ho attitude, over-the-top individualism and extremism.

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* {{Eagleland}}: Curious case - Type I with all it's its liberty, equality and peaceful ways is contrasted with Type II for its paranoia, gung-ho attitude, over-the-top individualism and extremism.
21st Nov '16 11:09:52 AM LBHills
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* CharacterDevelopment: During the course of the story Gordon evolves from frightened, timid drifter minding his onw bussiness and struggling to survive into a {{Determinator}}, bringing hope to terrorised people of Oregon and connecting individual effort of countless communites into unified work for better future of them all. He still remains a DeadpanSnarker though.

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* CharacterDevelopment: During the course of the story Gordon evolves from a frightened, timid drifter minding his onw bussiness own business and struggling to survive survive... into a {{Determinator}}, bringing hope to terrorised the terrorized people of Oregon and connecting the individual effort efforts of countless communites many communities into unified work for better future of them all.their mutual progress. He still remains a DeadpanSnarker though.



** The whistle Gordon receives from Abby in the first section became very handy in [[spoiler: the third one, when he used it to signal his men about Holnist's ambush]].
** The letter from Dena became useful when it was accidently read by [[spoiler: one of the Holnist's slaves, inspiring her to help Gordon and Johnny escape]].

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** The whistle Gordon receives from Abby in the first section became very handy in [[spoiler: the third one, when he used it to signal his men about Holnist's a Holnist ambush]].
** The letter from Dena became useful when it was accidently accidentally read by [[spoiler: one of the Holnist's slaves, inspiring her to help Gordon and Johnny escape]].
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