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* PoorCommunicationKills: Daine's parents didn't inform her of her true parentage and tell her anything about her powers until several years after her mother died, leaving her to blunder around alone and nearly drive herself insane with her half-god powers in the meantime. They were both on probation due to the whole new-goddess-and-guarantor thing and couldn't visit the mortal world easily. Her father tasked a badger god with keeping an eye on her after she was born - the badger checks in on her a few times when she's a baby, then loses track of time and doesn't talk to Daine until she's thirteen. Even then he's coy about her situation.

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Daine's parents didn't inform her of her true parentage and tell her anything about her powers until several years after her mother died, leaving her to blunder around alone and nearly drive herself insane with her half-god powers in the meantime. They were both on probation due to the whole new-goddess-and-guarantor thing and couldn't visit the mortal world easily. Her father tasked a badger god with keeping an eye on her after she was born - the badger checks in on her a few times when she's a baby, then loses track of time and doesn't talk to Daine until she's thirteen. Even then he's coy about her situation.situation.
** Numair creates a simulacrum in Carthak, but forgets to tell Daine about it. [[spoiler:When the simulacrum is executed and Daine believes Numair is dead, her RoaringRampageOfRevenge leaves the Carthaki palace in ruins, the Empire crippled by Daine ruining all their important documents and their army, and Ozorne barely surviving by turning into a Stormwing. On seeing all the devastation, Numair vows to never get that careless again.]]
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* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such animal is present in the text. Early on she rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.

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* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/File:Emperor_mage_sns_reissue_hc_rough.jpg Simon & Schuster cover]] shows her with a capuchin monkey. Neither animal is present in the text. Early on she She actually rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.colored than either of those.

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* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such animal is evident in the text. Early on she rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.

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* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such animal is evident present in the text. Early on she rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.



* EnlightenedSelfInterest: The nobles running Fief Dunlath are strip mining for opals and clearcutting their forests. Sent by wolves to try to convince them to stop, Daine tries appealing to their self interest. Their activities are poisoning the big central lake and killing or driving off the wild game, which isn't sustainable if they want to support themselves and their people on their own land. Unfortunately for her, these nobles care only about their own futures and wave her off.

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* EnlightenedSelfInterest: The nobles running Fief Dunlath are strip mining for opals and clearcutting their forests. Sent by wolves to try to convince them to stop, Daine tries appealing to their self interest. Their activities are poisoning the big central lake and killing or driving off the wild game, which isn't sustainable if they want to support themselves and their people on their own land. Unfortunately for her, these nobles care only about their own futures and wave make a high profit from mining, so laugh her off.



* GoodbyeCruelWorld: In Wolf-Speaker, Lord Belden kills himself and leaves a note saying that he won't bring more disgrace to his name by fleeing, in a kind of self-inflicted LeaveBehindAPistol.

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* GoodbyeCruelWorld: In Wolf-Speaker, Lord Belden kills himself and leaves a note saying that he won't bring [[DeathBeforeDishonor more disgrace to his name name]] by fleeing, in a kind of self-inflicted LeaveBehindAPistol.



* HeelFaceTurn: Rikash, introduced in ''Wolf-Speaker'' as markedly more of a NobleDemon than Zhaneh and more rude than malicious, [[spoiler: turns on Ozorne in the third book when he discovers that Ozorne has imprisoned Rikash's queen and her consort.]]

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* HeelFaceTurn: Rikash, introduced in ''Wolf-Speaker'' as markedly more of a NobleDemon than Zhaneh was and more rude than malicious, [[spoiler: turns on Ozorne in the third book when he discovers that Ozorne has imprisoned Rikash's queen and her consort.]]


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* InTheBlood: [[spoiler: Daine's [[DisappearedDad mysterious and absent father]] turns out to be Weiryn, an animalistic god of the hunt.]] This leaves Daine with a very high degree of animal-focused magic, but even setting that aside, even at fourteen and never having been trained by a human hunter she excells at it. Her low light vision is very good and she's capable with every kind of bow, including crossbows, and slings. [[spoiler: While she's not as callous towards human suffering as [[JerkassGods Weiryn is]], Daine also has a degree of BlueAndOrangeMorality with regards to humans generally, as PredationIsNatural.]]

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* UndeadFossils: In ''Emperor Mage'', the Graveyard Hag gives Daine the ability to animate the dead by touch, leading to some PowerIncontinence that's quite distressing for her. It even works on an archaeopteryx fossil, causing the bones to pull free of their slab, reassemble, and start flying around.The Hag ''wanted'' her to raise humans, but Daine was very against that. [[spoiler: When Daine finally "loses her temper", she still won't visit the graveyard, believing that if the human dead get up and walk the streets, within a few months people will forget and see it as a bad dream, but if dinosaur fossils destroy the palace that's some real damage that will at the least force the Empire to commit to rebuilding and recouping rather than going to war against anyone. As she notes, they're immune to any conventional weapons, don't feel pain as living animals do, and require very powerful spells to disintegrate, making them essentially unstoppable.]]


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* UndeadFossils: In ''Emperor Mage'', the Graveyard Hag gives Daine the ability to animate the dead by touch, leading to some PowerIncontinence that's quite distressing for her. It even works on an archaeopteryx fossil, causing the bones to pull free of their slab, reassemble, and start flying around.The Hag ''wanted'' her to raise humans, but Daine was very against that. [[spoiler: When Daine finally "loses her temper", she still won't visit the graveyard, believing that if the human dead get up and walk the streets, within a few months people will forget and see it as a bad dream, but if dinosaur fossils destroy the palace that's some real damage that will at the least force the Empire to commit to rebuilding and recouping rather than going to war against anyone. As she notes, they're immune to any conventional weapons, don't feel pain as living animals do, and require very powerful spells to disintegrate, making them essentially unstoppable.]]

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** ...at least, not nearly as much as she is in ''Emperor Mage''. The Graveyard Hag is far more mischievous and callous, and has distinct plans for what she wants Daine to do as well as a much firmer grasp on the situation. She drips bits and pieces of information for Daine to pick up and likes to laugh at her and prevent her from talking about knowing the goddess is about.

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** ...at least, not nearly as much as she is in ''Emperor Mage''. The Graveyard Hag is far more mischievous and callous, and has distinct plans for what she wants Daine to do as well as a much firmer grasp on the situation. She drips bits and pieces of information for Daine to pick up and likes to laugh at her and prevent her from talking about knowing [[LovesSecrecy telling anyone]] the goddess is about.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Prince Kaddar is in most ways good and humane and easy for Daine to relate to, once they have some initial awkwardness out of the way. Like the royals she's come to know in Tortall he wants to use ruling power to help citizens in need rather than for conquest or glory. But, as the heir to an empire that heavily relies on slave labor, he thinks knowing who random slaves are, let alone caring about or wanting to free them, is ridiculous, an opinion that has Daine repeatedly feeling as if she's been slapped in the face.
* DemotedToExtra: If you read chronologically, ''Tempests and Slaughter'' comes before this quartet. That book is ''much'' longer and goes into more detail about numerous characters who appear in ''Emperor Mage'' in much smaller roles. Most notable is Chioké, who here is just the most prominent of Ozorne's loyal mages. Varice fares a little better but she's no longer close friends with Ozorne, merely a courtier and functionary of his. Lindhall actually gets more depth here than in ''Tempests and Slaughter'', as he's actively working to smuggle slaves out of Carthak.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Prince Kaddar is in most ways good and humane and easy for Daine to relate to, once they have some initial awkwardness out of the way. Like the royals she's come to know in Tortall he wants to use ruling power to help citizens in need rather than for conquest or glory.glory [[spoiler: and he is actually part of a secret conspiracy to improve Carthak]]. But, as the heir to an empire that heavily relies on slave labor, he thinks knowing who random slaves are, let alone caring about or wanting to free them, is ridiculous, an opinion that has Daine repeatedly feeling as if she's been slapped in the face.
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** There's significant CharacterOverlap with ''Song of the Lioness'', particularly in ''Wild Magic'', but many very important members of its cast appear briefly if at all. Raoul has a cameo in ''Wolf-Speaker''. Duke Gareth and Gary are with the delegation in ''Emperor Mage'' but as Daine isn't remotely interested in the diplomatic proceedings she has little to do with them.
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If you read chronologically, ''Tempests and Slaughter'' comes before this quartet. That book is ''much'' longer and goes into more detail about numerous characters who appear in ''Emperor Mage'' in much smaller roles. Most notable is Chioké, who here is just the most prominent of Ozorne's loyal mages. Varice fares a little better but she's no longer close friends with Ozorne, merely a courtier and functionary of his. Lindhall actually gets more depth here than in ''Tempests and Slaughter'', as he's been actively working to smuggle slaves out of Carthak.



** Lady Yolane and Lady Maura are half sisters with the same father. They talk about him in the past tense, but don't elaborate on how long it's been.

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** Lady Yolane and Lady Maura are half sisters with the same father. They talk about him in the past tense, but don't elaborate on how long it's been.been or how he died.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Yolane is strip mining her fiefdom [[spoiler: to sell opals to Carthak, an operation overseen by mages loyal to Ozorne and an assortment of Immortals they've summoned. Being third cousin to King Jonathan, she has ambitions to become Tortall's Queen. She falters when the mages discuss using bloodrain, which will poison the land for miles and kill everything in the vicinity, an effect that will take seven years just to start fading. Ambitious though she is, she did swear to keep Dunlath safe. Opal profits can keep her people fed even if the mining destroys their usual livelihood; this magical poison is something else entirely. The mages and her husband wave this concern away, though.]]

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Yolane is strip mining her fiefdom [[spoiler: to sell opals to Carthak, an operation overseen by mages loyal to Ozorne and an assortment of Immortals they've summoned. Being third cousin to King Jonathan, she has ambitions to become Tortall's Queen. She falters when the mages discuss using bloodrain, which will poison the land for miles and kill everything in the vicinity, an effect that will take seven years just to start ''start'' fading. Ambitious though she is, she did swear to keep Dunlath safe. Opal profits can keep her people fed even if the mining destroys their usual livelihood; this magical poison is something else entirely. The mages and her husband wave this concern away, though.though, and the implication is that she's not going to put her foot down.]]



* FakeKillScare: Played with in ''Emperor Mage'', when the titular emperor has [[TheArchmage a certain someone]] killed. [[spoiler:This angers everyone's favorite Wild Mage, and she proceeds to call up some ZOMBIE DINOSAUR SKELETONS and every other living animal in the area, destroy a palace and most of the city, and do quite a bit more damage.]] When that certain someone shows up, proving to her that it was a magical clone of himself that had been killed, she cools off, answering "What happened?" with "I thought you were dead. I lost my temper."
* FalseFlagOperation: Carthak disguises its warships as pirates in their attempt to kill Thayet and the royal children so that Tortall can't declare war. When Tortall sends a peace delegation, [[spoiler:Ozorne kidnaps Daine so he can frame her and declare war on Tortall]].

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* FakeKillScare: Played with in ''Emperor Mage'', when the titular emperor has [[TheArchmage a certain someone]] killed. [[spoiler:This angers everyone's favorite Wild Mage, and [[spoiler: This sends Daine into TranquilFury. Deciding that Ozorne has to pay, she proceeds to call up some ZOMBIE DINOSAUR SKELETONS and every other living animal reanimates all of the larger dinosaur skeletons in the area, destroy a palace Hall of Bones and most of the city, and do quite a bit more damage.commits them to destroying his palace.]] When that certain someone shows up, proving to her that it was a magical clone of himself that had been killed, she cools off, answering "What happened?" with "I thought you were dead. I lost my temper."
* FalseFlagOperation: Carthak disguises its Ozorne has warships disguised as pirates in their attempt to kill or capture Thayet and the royal children so that Tortall can't declare war. When Tortall sends he can deny that the forces are Carthaki. The events of ''Wolf-Speaker'' cause enough countries to unite against the Carthaki Empire that it sues for peace, and several countries send a peace delegation, [[spoiler:Ozorne delegation to Carthak in ''Emperor Mage'', where Ozorne swears that rogue elements were working without his knowledge. [[spoiler: Late in the book Ozorne kidnaps Daine so he can frame and hides her away, forging a note to make it seem like she ran off to foment dissidence against him. This causes the other countries to assume the talks failed because of Tortall and declare her specifically, so they won't help Tortall in an impending war on Tortall]].against the much larger empire]].



* FossilRevival: Daine does this during her trip to Carthak, courtesy of a temporary gift from the Graveyard Hag. The Hag ''wanted'' her to raise humans, but Daine was very against that.

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* FossilRevival: Daine does this during her trip to Carthak, courtesy of a temporary gift from UndeadFossils: In ''Emperor Mage'', the Graveyard Hag. Hag gives Daine the ability to animate the dead by touch, leading to some PowerIncontinence that's quite distressing for her. It even works on an archaeopteryx fossil, causing the bones to pull free of their slab, reassemble, and start flying around.The Hag ''wanted'' her to raise humans, but Daine was very against that.that. [[spoiler: When Daine finally "loses her temper", she still won't visit the graveyard, believing that if the human dead get up and walk the streets, within a few months people will forget and see it as a bad dream, but if dinosaur fossils destroy the palace that's some real damage that will at the least force the Empire to commit to rebuilding and recouping rather than going to war against anyone. As she notes, they're immune to any conventional weapons, don't feel pain as living animals do, and require very powerful spells to disintegrate, making them essentially unstoppable.]]



* GoodbyeCruelWorld: In Wolf-Speaker, Lord Belden kills himself in a kind of self-inflicted LeaveBehindAPistol
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* GoodbyeCruelWorld: In Wolf-Speaker, Lord Belden kills himself and leaves a note saying that he won't bring more disgrace to his name by fleeing, in a kind of self-inflicted LeaveBehindAPistol
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LeaveBehindAPistol.



* PowerIncontinence: Daine's [[TheBeastmaster powerful connection to animals]] is a different kind of magic than the human Gift and causes many unique difficulties.
** When Daine's human family is killed before ''Wild Magic'', she loses her sense of self and runs with a pack of wolves to seek {{Revenge}}, soon naked and RunningOnAllFours, barely remembering how to use a knife. Eventually she recovered but feared the return of the "madness"; even when she found a teacher, she found herself slipping whenever she worked magic involving pack or herd animals, until he helped her to keep her self separate from her magic.
** Another of her problems is that animals within her radius (a mile and a half in the first book, ''ten miles'' in the second) will all rush to her aid and attack anyone who's made her scared or angry, or otherwise act according to her desires, without her conscious input. They will kill themselves in doing so, and she feels their pain and deaths, but if she commands them not to attack they struggle against her control, so that she has to constantly keep them at bay mentally. If they ''do'' attack, Daine can pass out instinctively healing them. This means she can't be trusted to be part of a unit of mounted fighters - the horses will defend her and her friends and ignore everything else. Daine's able to manage animal attacks by instead having them destroy enemy supplies and make a ruckus that keeps foes up all night but she still has to keep control.
** In ''Wolf-Speaker'' Daine's advised by the badger god that she can [[AnimalEyeSpy inhabit the bodies of animals and use their senses]], which she soon figures out, but she was ''not'' told that this also came with PartialTransformation into those animals and again fears she's going mad. Eventually the badger returns to tell her how to shift herself back of her own accord rather than waiting for it to wear off. Daine then figures out how to [[VoluntaryTransformation transform herself entirely]] into an animal, but the first time she becomes a wolf and turns back she ends up bedridden for days as her skeleton [[PainfulTransformation protests]].
** She's mastered her powers by ''Emperor Mage'', just in time for the Graveyard Hag to make her a CosmicPlaything and give her the power to AnimateDead - secondhand, and since the badger god was angry about having to involve Daine he told her ''nothing'', leaving her to discover what happened if she touched a dead animal (or [[RaisingTheSteaks a pelt or taxidermy]], or [[UndeadFossils a fossilized skeleton]]) herself[[spoiler:, ''and'' that the power she needed to do so came from her own life force so that accidentally touching several at once ''killed her''. The badger brought her back angry at her foolishness only to become chagrined as she protested that no, he ''hadn't'' told her anything at all.]]



* RaisingTheSteaks: In ''Emperor Mage'', Daine [[spoiler:uses the resurrection powers temporarily granted to her by the Graveyard Hag to resurrect the dinosaur skeletons at the Imperial Palace and trash the place while pursuing Ozorne]].

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* RaisingTheSteaks: In ''Emperor Mage'', Daine [[spoiler:uses Daine's temporary AnimateDead power is first used on a tiger skin rug, that starts to move as if a living tiger is inside of it. When she demonstrates the resurrection powers temporarily granted new power to her by the Graveyard Hag to resurrect Numair and Alanna she touches a taxidermied vulture. [[spoiler: Later she [[UndeadFossils resurrects the dinosaur skeletons skeletons]] at the Imperial Palace and to trash the place while pursuing Ozorne]].



* ResurrectiveImmortality: The distinction between Immortals and minor gods, some of whom are ''quite'' minor, is that Immortals can be killed normally and gods appear instantly in fresh new bodies. Many minor gods are animals who are hunted and eaten by other gods, and may be annoyed at dying even if it's no big deal for them. Broad-Foot grumbles when the fish god he's just eaten surfaces to splash him in the face. When Daine and Numair traverse a swamp, they're pursued by many gods of mosquitoes, horseflies etc which are not quelled by being smacked and complain that the mortals are being selfish with their blood.

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* ResurrectiveImmortality: The distinction between Immortals and minor gods, some of whom are ''quite'' minor, is that Immortals can be killed normally and gods appear instantly in fresh new bodies. Many minor gods are animals who are hunted and eaten by other gods, and may be annoyed at dying even if it's no big deal for them. Broad-Foot grumbles when the fish god he's just eaten surfaces to splash him in the face. When Daine and Numair traverse a swamp, they're pursued by many gods of mosquitoes, horseflies etc which are not quelled by just re-appear after being smacked and complain that the mortals are being selfish with their blood.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc [[NobodyPoops won't have the animals make messes]], unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends [[BirdPoopGag streak her clothes, hair, and skin with filth]] on a regular basis. Realistic again, she's someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life and takes this in stride. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined. People who are familiar with birds also take this with little comment.

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc [[NobodyPoops won't have the animals make messes]], unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends try to be clean but the sick birds in ''Emperor Mage'' [[BirdPoopGag streak absolutely ruin her clothes, hair, and skin with filth]] on a regular basis.outfit]]. Realistic again, she's someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life and takes this in stride. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined. People who are familiar with birds also take this with little comment.

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* AirVentEscape: Zek flees up a wall hanging and into an air vent to escape. He's a pygmy marmoset, about the size of a large rat but much more agile, so this isn't difficult for him.



* AnimalTalk: "The People" have one language which seems to be magical in nature. They usually don't think to talk to other species except when influenced by Daine's human intelligence. Interestingly, while young animals like the half-grown wolf cubs in ''Wolf-Speaker'' also talk, Daine doesn't percieve them as speaking in words until near the end of the book, after she's shared the senses of a young cat.

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* AnimalTalk: "The People" have one language which seems to be magical in nature. They usually don't think to talk to other species except when influenced by Daine's human intelligence. Interestingly, while young animals like the half-grown wolf cubs in ''Wolf-Speaker'' also talk, Daine doesn't percieve perceive them as speaking in words until near the end of the book, after she's shared the senses of a young cat.



** Animals and {{Action Girl}}s, as in her other books.

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** Animals and {{Action Girl}}s, as in her other books. Her characters often have an animal companion of some kind but this quartet is the most animal-focused of her entire output.



* BlueAndOrangeMorality: This overlaps with DeliberateValuesDissonance, as Daine does not consider what is best for humans to be more important than what is best for animals - or even for Immortals, once she gets to understand them better. She's fine with hunting, but past that? She does conclude at one point that some of the predatory animals which she loves reduce her to tears with their hunting tactics, since she loves the prey animals as well, but she loves them still and doesn't consider them evil for having such natures.

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: This overlaps with DeliberateValuesDissonance, as Daine does not consider what is best for humans to be more important than what is best for animals - or even for Immortals, once she gets to understand them better. She's fine with hunting, but past that? She does conclude at one point that some of the predatory animals which she loves reduce her to tears with their hunting tactics, since she loves the prey animals as well, but she loves them still and [[PredationIsNatural doesn't consider them evil evil]] for having such natures.



*** That's also the book where she's upset about encountering a tauros while bathing and having to kill it when, despite her warnings, it keeps pursuing her. Some of this is the threat it presented to her and her Ma, since in the heat of the moment she forgot that her Ma is no longer defenseless, but she closes the scene saying that it's not fair for the tauros, either - are there even any female tauroses?

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*** That's also the book where she's upset about encountering a tauros while bathing and having to kill it when, despite her warnings, it keeps pursuing her.[[AttemptedRape still tries to rape her]]. Some of this is the threat it presented to her and her Ma, since in the heat of the moment she forgot that her Ma is no longer defenseless, but she closes the scene saying that it's not fair for the tauros, either - are there even any female tauroses?



* BowsVersusCrossbows: Averted. Daine is just as good with a crossbow as she is with the longbow even though she prefers the latter. In ''Wolf-Speaker'' two Stormwings mock her for using a crossbow, assuming that it's too short-range and slow-loading to be a threat, and she shoots both of them out of the sky [[YourEyesCanDeceiveYou with her eyes closed]].

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* BloodMagic: In the fourth book Ozorne uses his own blood [[spoiler: to create BlobMonster spies known as darkings. If they had been created in the mortal realms they would have been innately loyal to him, but because he worked in the Divine Realms he keeps them in line through torture, and they start to turn on him after Daine shows them kindness. When some try to help Daine in her final battle against him, though, he's able to turn those back into blood.]]
* BowsVersusCrossbows: Averted. Daine is just as good with a crossbow as she is with the longbow even though she prefers the latter. In ''Wolf-Speaker'' two Stormwings mock a Stormwing mocks her for using a crossbow, assuming that it's too short-range and slow-loading to be a threat, threat at range. She shoots nonlethally and dislodges one of his feathers. When he and a friend attack her anyway, she shoots both of them out of the sky [[YourEyesCanDeceiveYou with despite them flying at her eyes closed]].out of the sun]].



* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such monkey is evident. Early on she rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.

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* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such monkey animal is evident.evident in the text. Early on she rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Prince Kaddar is in most ways good and humane and easy for Daine to relate to, once they have some initial awkwardness out of the way. Like the royals she's come to know in Tortall he wants to use ruling power to help citizens in need rather than for conquest or glory. But, as the heir to an empire that heavily relies on slave labor, he thinks knowing who random slaves are, let alone caring about or wanting to free them, is ridiculous, an opinion that has Daine repeatedly feeling as if she's been slapped in the face.



** ''Dragons'' may have elected not to return but the impact of the other species' return is huge, and ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' deals heavily with the effects of this change in the world. Monsters are about, and strange people who may be dealt with ''as'' people but also have their own strange customs and criminals. In ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' a breakdown of the demographics of Tortall has ''one in ten people'' be a sapient, talking Immortal.

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** ''Dragons'' may have elected not to return but the impact of the other species' return is huge, and ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' deals heavily with the effects of this change in the world. Monsters are about, and strange people who may be dealt with ''as'' people but also have their own strange customs and criminals. In ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' a breakdown of the demographics of Tortall has ''one in ten people'' a hundred Tortallans'' be a sapient, talking Immortal.



* ElderlyImmortal: Most human gods, Daine notes, look either young or mature. The Threefold or Great Mother Goddess can take an elder's form but is a straight-backed and dignified representation of age. The Graveyard Hag, on the other hand, is usually bent-backed with a cane, not much hair, and a wicked grin revealing that she has few teeth. She's as strong and lively as she wants to be, of course.



* TheEmpire: Of all people Prince Kaddar, Ozorne's heir, is the most critical of the Carthaki empire itself.
--> "Our glorious heritage. The splendid empire. We loot our conquests until they can no longer feed themselves. Then we take the money from what food and goods they buy to pay for wars to acquire more conquests."



* GoodbyeCruelWorld: In Wolf-Speaker, Lord Belden kills himself in a kind of self-inflicted LeaveBehindAPistol
and leaves a note.



* IHaveYourWife: As Daine gets to know Kaddar better and see how difficult life is for him as Ozorne's heir, she impulsively tells him to come with her to Tortall. He tells her that he can't, because his family, his friends, and even his horse are here and Ozorne, who's terribly possessive, would not hesitate a moment to hurt them trying to get him back. [[spoiler: Despite this, when things go wrong, Lindhall mentions wanting to smuggle Kaddar out.]]



* ModestRoyalty: Daine is shocked when she first meets Jonathan and Thayet since they don't look like her mental image of royalty. She has several hiccups in ''Emperor Mage'' - Ozorne is ''not'' so modest and, having become used to the idea of casually talking to royalty, she has to consciously remember to treat him with more formality.

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* ModestRoyalty: Daine is shocked when she first meets Jonathan and Thayet since they don't look like her mental image of royalty. She has several hiccups in ''Emperor Mage'' - Ozorne is ''not'' so modest and, having as Daine's become used to the idea of casually talking to royalty, she has to consciously remember to treat him with more formality.



* NeverMessWithGranny: The Graveyard Hag is the first Greater God to appear in the quartet. In most of the world she's a fairly minor trickster, but here she's more powerful than any other god save for her father [[DontFearTheReaper the Black God]], who doesn't meddle in her affairs anyway. She's mischevious and likes being sassed back a bit, but



* OurGodsAreDifferent: Some of the Great Gods appeared in the previous quartet, but the first one to appear in this one is the male Badger God. There are of course many gods of humans with many specialties. All animals, right down to gnats and midges, also have [[OddJobGods their own gods]], made in their own image, with powers that are quite a bit more limited than the Great Gods'. It often seems that the less powerful a god is the less likely they are to be JerkassGods.

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* OurGodsAreDifferent: Some of the Great Gods appeared in the previous quartet, but the first one to appear in this one is the male Badger God. There are of course many gods of humans with many specialties. All animals, right down to gnats and midges, also have [[OddJobGods their own gods]], made in their own image, with powers that are quite a bit more limited than the Great Gods'.Gods' and almost exclusively work on the species they represent. It often seems that the less powerful a god is the less likely they are to be JerkassGods.



* PregnancyDoesNotWorkThatWay: In ''Wild Magic'' a pregnant dragon who's already at the point of having contractions miscarries and the contractions stop. Daine, who's only just learned how to heal mundane animals, has a bout of PowerIncontinence and heals her - the dragon's fetus returns to life and the contractions start again, and she flies off to give birth. In live bearing animals, contractions happen regardless of whether a fetus is alive - it still has to leave the womb. Admittedly, this is a dragon.

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* PregnancyDoesNotWorkThatWay: In ''Wild Magic'' a pregnant dragon who's already at the point of having contractions miscarries and the contractions stop. Daine, who's only just learned how to heal mundane animals, has a bout of PowerIncontinence and heals her - the dragon's fetus returns to life and the contractions start again, and she flies off to give birth. In live bearing animals, contractions happen regardless of whether a fetus is alive - it still has to leave the womb. Admittedly, this is a dragon.dragon and very large but giving birth to an infant not much larger than a newborn human, so perhaps she would have reabsorbed it.



** The first is that hyenas will bring about Ozorne's doom. He keeps some in his menagerie in an attempt to show that he's not afraid of them.

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** The first is that hyenas will help bring about Ozorne's doom. He would have had them hunted to extinction if they weren't sacred to the Graveyard Hag, patron goddess of Carthak. As it is he keeps some in his menagerie in an attempt to show that he's not afraid of them.



* RelationshipUpgrade: ''The Realms of the Gods'' has [[spoiler:Daine and Numair]] getting together. There was some minor foreshadowing to this point, but the fact that [[spoiler:Daine was in her early teens and Numair in his late twenties, and [[HotForStudent her teacher]],]] had [[spoiler: Numair]] in utter denial initially, though he ''was'' jealous of younger men interested in her. Once he did figure it out, he was incredibly reluctant to bring it up, even after [[spoiler: Daine reached sixteen]].

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* RelationshipUpgrade: ''The Realms of the Gods'' has [[spoiler:Daine and Numair]] getting together. There was some minor foreshadowing to this point, but the fact that [[spoiler:Daine was in her early teens and Numair in his late twenties, and [[HotForStudent her teacher]],]] had [[spoiler: Numair]] in utter denial initially, though he ''was'' jealous of younger men interested in her.her and his interest was clear to Ozorne. Once he did figure it out, he was incredibly reluctant to bring it up, even after [[spoiler: Daine reached sixteen]].



* ShapeshifterModeLock: Daine doesn't run up against this herself but she knows that if she takes any Immortal form she won't be able to change back. Rikash teases her, saying that she must have wanted to try dragon shape.
* SheCleansUpNicely: Daine wears formal dresses in several scenes of ''Emperor Mage'' because of the high class functions; even when out and about in more casual settings, rather than treaty negotiations, she wears brand new, put-together outfits. Mentioned in universe as a present from Thayet.

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* ShapeshifterModeLock: Daine doesn't run up against this herself but she knows that if she takes any Immortal form she won't be able to change back. Rikash teases her, saying that she must have wanted to try dragon shape.
shape, and says that she'd enjoy being a Stormwing.
* SheCleansUpNicely: Daine wears formal dresses in several scenes of ''Emperor Mage'' because of the high class functions; she's with a diplomatic embassy; even when out and about in more casual settings, rather than treaty negotiations, she wears brand new, put-together outfits. Mentioned in universe as outfits, a present from Thayet.Thayet. In ''Wolf-Speaker'' Daine disliked formalware but now, a year later, she enjoys the way men look at her in her fancy clothing. Numair in particular wastes no time telling her [[HotForStudent how attractive she is]].



* TakeOffYourClothes: Defied by Daine and Numair. [[LiteralCliffHanger After falling off a cliff,]] Daine strips her ruined clothes off for Numair to heal her, only for him to protest that she should stay clothed while in his presence.

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* TakeOffYourClothes: Defied by Daine and Numair. [[LiteralCliffHanger After falling off a cliff,]] Daine strips her ruined clothes off for so Numair to heal her, can address her injuries, only for him to protest that she should stay clothed while in his presence.



** [[spoiler:Emperor Ozorne]] is cornered and injured by [[TheHeroine Daine]] and [[spoiler: the hyenas, who TheProphecy had stated would bring about Ozorne's downfall]]. His choices are apparentely two-fold - either he accepts Kaddar's offer to abdicate and be spared, Daine and [[spoiler: the hyenas]] get him. He tries to TakeAThirdOption by cashing in a favour from Rikash, who offered him one of their feathers which can supposedly allow him to escape from any danger, "as if on wings of steel". Of course, Rikash [[BatmanGambit had anticipated this]] and never exactly said ''how'' it would allow him to escape -[[spoiler: he's transformed into a Stormwing, and thereby stripped of his mortal throne and mortal magic, and placed under the jurisdiction of three vengeful Stormwings. He escapes, barely, and becomes more TheDragon to a much larger threat]].

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** [[spoiler:Emperor Ozorne]] is cornered and injured by [[TheHeroine Daine]] and [[spoiler: the hyenas, who TheProphecy had stated would bring about Ozorne's downfall]]. His choices are apparentely two-fold - either he accepts Kaddar's offer to abdicate and be spared, Daine and [[spoiler: the hyenas]] get him. He tries to TakeAThirdOption by cashing in a favour from Rikash, who offered him one of their feathers which can supposedly allow him to escape from any danger, "as if on wings of steel". Of course, Rikash [[BatmanGambit had anticipated this]] and never exactly said ''how'' it would allow him to escape -[[spoiler: he's Ozorne is transformed into a Stormwing, Stormwing and thereby stripped of his mortal throne and mortal magic, and placed under the jurisdiction of three vengeful Stormwings. He escapes, barely, and becomes more TheDragon to a much larger threat]].
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** Zekk the pygmy marmoset is "an expert on plant foods" and can advise Daine on unfamiliar vegetable dishes. He himself mostly eats fruit. Real pygmy marmosets mostly eat specific forms of tree sap and insects. They supplement this diet with fruit and nectar, but not other plants.

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** Zekk the pygmy marmoset is "an expert on plant foods" and can advise Daine on unfamiliar vegetable dishes. He himself mostly eats fruit. Real pygmy marmosets mostly eat specific forms of tree sap and insects. They supplement this diet with fruit and nectar, but not other plants. Lindhall asks through Daine if pygmy marmosets really are monogamous and Zekk says yes - really though, they're often polyandrous, with a breeding female having two male partners who each carry a baby.

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: At one point, Daine angrily says that wolves never eat people. This isn't completely true. It's not normal for wolves to eat human beings, but they've been known to do so (or try) if unable to catch their natural prey, and will scavenge bodies more readily.

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: At one point, ArtisticLicenseBiology:
** In ''Wolf-Speaker'',
Daine angrily says that wolves never eat people. This isn't completely true. It's not normal for wolves to eat human beings, but they've been known to do so (or try) if unable to catch their natural prey, and will scavenge bodies already-dead humans more readily.readily.
** Zekk the pygmy marmoset is "an expert on plant foods" and can advise Daine on unfamiliar vegetable dishes. He himself mostly eats fruit. Real pygmy marmosets mostly eat specific forms of tree sap and insects. They supplement this diet with fruit and nectar, but not other plants.


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* CoversAlwaysLie: The [[https://tamorapierce.fandom.com/wiki/The_Immortals_covers?file=Emperormage.jpg Random House cover]] of ''Emperor Mage'' shows Daine with a golden lion tamarin monkey on her shoulder. No such monkey is evident. Early on she rescues a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_marmoset pygmy marmoset]] who's her companion for the rest of the book, a monkey that's ''much'' smaller and more cryptically colored.

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* FriendToAllLivingThings: Deconstructed with Ozorne, who is popular enough with his animals, particularly his birds, but is otherwise a very, very nasty man. On the other hand, Daine is nature's friend through and through, and also wants to help and protect young humans. She even comes to this point with many Immortals.
* FullFrontalAssault: Stormwings don't wear clothing beyond a bit of jewelry and hair ornaments, so are bare chested. When Daine learns VoluntaryShapeshifting she can't take her clothes with her, so this is an issue with her as well. The most spectacular example coming at the end of ''Realms''; thanks to constantly shapeshifting to the point of magical exhaustion [[spoiler: Daine is wearing nothing but her Badger claw during her final confrontation with Ozorne. The scene is so intense that neither of them mention it, and the reader barely notices it.]]

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* FriendToAllLivingThings: Deconstructed with Ozorne, who is popular enough with his animals, particularly his birds, FriendToAllLivingThings:
** Daine, naturally. Even before she's completely mastered her magic, animals see her as the "greatest of the People" and love her, and she loves most of them right back (she doesn't care for chickens). She's awkward around human children at first
but is otherwise a very, very nasty man. On the other hand, Daine is nature's friend through soon comes to like and through, and also wants want to help them, and protect young humans. She even comes to this point with many Immortals.
** Deconstructed with Ozorne. He loves animals, especially birds, and goes to great lengths to provide the best care possible to them, even having any that can't thrive in captivity released back to their homes and fretting when they're sick. His birds love and trust him back, and when he sees how dedicated Daine is in caring for them he [[AffablyEvil starts to like her as well]]. ''Literature/TheNumairChronicles'', which have a younger, [[UsedToBeASweetKid initially kinder]] Ozorne, show that he's had this trait for a long time. And if he was only in charge of aviaries etc that would be fine, but as TheEmperor this trait is if anything a kind of KickTheDog - he ''only'' loves animals and is indifferent to famines, mass deaths, and the fates of the people under his command as he goes into full AGodAmI mode. Another character cautions Daine that if she voices a suspicion about the birds having been poisoned, even accidentally, Ozorne will have the slaves responsible for feeding them tortured and killed. [[spoiler: Near the end of ''Emperor Mage'', he [[EntitledToHaveYou decides to keep Daine]] as he genuinely likes her, and doesn't understand that she doesn't ''also'' only care about animals and may have strong opinions about him trying to kill her friends and invade her home.]]
* FullFrontalAssault: Stormwings don't wear clothing beyond a bit of jewelry and hair ornaments, so are bare chested. When Daine learns VoluntaryShapeshifting she can't take her clothes with her, so this is an issue with her as well. The most spectacular example coming at the end of ''Realms''; thanks to constantly shapeshifting to the point of magical exhaustion [[spoiler: Daine is wearing nothing but her Badger claw during her final confrontation with Ozorne. The It's in her narration but the scene is so intense that neither of them mention it, and the reader barely notices it.]]



* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Daine can talk to animals. She proves on many occasions that, since she can do it at a distance, speaking to animals gives her huge advantages in war and intrigue. For instance, animals will spy for her and she can prevent an army from marching as they have no edible food, no water, no horses, and hardly a strap of leather or piece of rope that hasn't been chewed through; a logistics nightmare.

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* HeartIsAnAwesomePower: Daine can talk to animals. She proves on many occasions that, since she can do it at a distance, distance and animals are always eager to do as she asks, speaking to animals gives her huge advantages in war and intrigue. For instance, animals will spy for her and she can prevent an army from marching as they have no edible food, no water, no horses, and hardly a strap of leather or piece of rope that hasn't been chewed through; a logistics nightmare.



* HotForStudent / HotForTeacher: [[spoiler:Daine and Numair. Daine had reached the age where she would be considered an adult and was no longer Numair's student before she even realized Numair liked her, and Numair himself seemed initially reluctant when Daine brought it up. Numair himself didn't realize he was ''in'' love with Daine (both would have happily admitted to platonic love years before) until she pressed the issue, but he was jealous and prickly towards men closer to her age long before then.]]

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* HotForStudent / HotForTeacher: [[spoiler:Daine and Numair. Daine had reached the age where she would be considered an adult and was no longer Numair's student before she even realized Numair liked her, and Numair himself seemed initially reluctant when Daine brought it up. Numair himself didn't realize he was ''in'' love with Daine (both would have happily admitted to platonic love years before) until she pressed the issue, but he was admiring of her appearance and jealous and prickly towards men closer to her age long before then.]]



** When Daine's in wolf shape and running with wolves to hunt a noblewoman on a horse, she tells the horse to dump Yolane and run for it. The horse is too fearful to respond to Daine as readily as most animals do, but she hesitates, and Yolane hits her with a riding crop. Having had enough, the horse bucks her off and flees.

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** When Daine's in wolf shape and running with wolves to hunt a noblewoman on a horse, she tells the horse to dump Yolane and run for it. The horse is too fearful scared of the wolves to respond to Daine as readily as most animals do, but she hesitates, and Yolane hits her with a riding crop. Having had enough, the horse bucks her off and flees.



* ModestRoyalty: Daine is shocked when she first meets Jonathan and Thayet since they don't look like her mental image of royalty.

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* ModestRoyalty: Daine is shocked when she first meets Jonathan and Thayet since they don't look like her mental image of royalty. She has several hiccups in ''Emperor Mage'' - Ozorne is ''not'' so modest and, having become used to the idea of casually talking to royalty, she has to consciously remember to treat him with more formality.
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* ChasedOffIntoTheSunset: The ending of ''Emperor Mage'' [[spoiler: has new Stormwing Ozorne clumsily fleeing from Rikash.]]


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* GodsHandsAreTied: Gods have a hierarchy which can vary by region. The Graveyard Hag, meanwhile, is a minor goddess everywhere ''but'' Carthak, where everyone but the Black God[[note]]who is her dad, by the by, and usually doesn't intervene in Carthaki matters[[/note]] must bow to her. When she picks Daine to be her CosmicPlaything, Daine is grouchy at every suggestion that there are rules and thinks these don't actually exist.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Yolane is strip mining her fiefdom [[spoiler: to sell opals to Carthak, an operation overseen by mages loyal to Ozorne and an assortment of Immortals they've summoned. Being third cousin to King Jonathan, she has ambitions to become Tortall's Queen. She falters when the mages discuss using bloodrain, which will poison the land for miles and kill everything in the vicinity, an effect that will take seven years just to start fading. Ambitious though she is, she did swear to keep Dunlath safe. The mages and her husband wave this away, though.]]

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Yolane is strip mining her fiefdom [[spoiler: to sell opals to Carthak, an operation overseen by mages loyal to Ozorne and an assortment of Immortals they've summoned. Being third cousin to King Jonathan, she has ambitions to become Tortall's Queen. She falters when the mages discuss using bloodrain, which will poison the land for miles and kill everything in the vicinity, an effect that will take seven years just to start fading. Ambitious though she is, she did swear to keep Dunlath safe. Opal profits can keep her people fed even if the mining destroys their usual livelihood; this magical poison is something else entirely. The mages and her husband wave this concern away, though.]]



* GenreShift: Lightly so. Each book of the quartet has its own tone and focus. ''Wild Magic'' is highly concerned with characters from the last quartet and with a new cast of mostly low-powered individuals in Onua and the Riders. ''Wolf-Speaker'' has the lowest stakes and entirely takes place in Fief Dunlath. ''Emperor Mage'' takes place in Carthak, where Daine is at the edges of an important political conversation and a tool of a malicious Goddess. ''The Realms of the Gods'' brings in a totally new antagonist and very high stakes, is generally stranger, and mostly takes place in the titular realms.

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* GenreShift: Lightly so. Each book of the quartet has its own tone and focus. ''Wild Magic'' is highly concerned with characters from the last quartet and with a new cast of mostly low-powered individuals in Onua and the Riders. ''Wolf-Speaker'' has the lowest stakes and entirely takes place in Fief Dunlath.Dunlath, with a cast of mostly animals. ''Emperor Mage'' takes place in Carthak, where Daine is at the edges of an important political conversation and a tool of a malicious Goddess. ''The Realms of the Gods'' brings in a totally new antagonist and very high stakes, is generally stranger, and mostly takes place in the titular realms.



* HotForStudent / HotForTeacher: [[spoiler:Daine and Numair. Daine had reached the age where she would be considered an adult and was no longer Numair's student before she even realized Numair liked her, and Numair himself seemed initially reluctant when Daine brought it up. Numair himself didn't realize he was ''in'' love with Daine (both would have happily admitted to platonic love years before) until she pressed the issue.]]

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* HotForStudent / HotForTeacher: [[spoiler:Daine and Numair. Daine had reached the age where she would be considered an adult and was no longer Numair's student before she even realized Numair liked her, and Numair himself seemed initially reluctant when Daine brought it up. Numair himself didn't realize he was ''in'' love with Daine (both would have happily admitted to platonic love years before) until she pressed the issue.issue, but he was jealous and prickly towards men closer to her age long before then.]]



* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: Stormwings were dreamt up by a human in the hopes that their depredations (Stormwings defile the bodies of fallen soldiers rather than let them be honorably buried or treated with reverence) would discourage war by subverting the idea that there's anything glorious about it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work most of the time. Rikash points out that if humans would just stop ''waging war'', there would ''be'' no war dead to desecrate and they'd go away. It's not the Stormwings' fault that they'll never be unemployed. (Well, not the fault of the Stormwings who actually follow the rules on these things.)

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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: Stormwings were dreamt up by a human in the hopes that their depredations (Stormwings defile the bodies of fallen soldiers rather than let them be honorably buried or treated with reverence) would discourage war by subverting the idea that there's anything glorious about it. Any time a human decides ''not'' to fight and die they have a kind of victory. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work most of Stormwings have been gone from the time.Mortal Realms for so long that their influence has waned. Rikash points out that if humans would just stop ''waging war'', there would ''be'' no war dead to desecrate and they'd go away. It's not the Stormwings' fault that they'll never be unemployed. (Well, not the fault of the Stormwings who actually follow the rules on these things.)



** Stormwings are a race of [[HarpingOnAboutHarpies harpy-like beings]] who live to desecrate the dead (in a largely futile effort to make people reluctant to wage war) and their feathers are made of sharp metal that can cut up birds, so Daine doesn't like them. Then she meets Rikash, who befriended the lonely Maura and reveals that they are [[FriendToAllChildren fond of children]], since their own fertility rate is low.

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** Stormwings are a race of [[HarpingOnAboutHarpies harpy-like beings]] who live to desecrate the dead (in a largely futile effort to make people reluctant to wage war) and their feathers are made of sharp metal that can cut up birds, so Daine doesn't like them. Then she meets Rikash, who befriended the lonely Maura and reveals that they many of them are [[FriendToAllChildren fond of children]], since their own fertility rate is low.



* PoorCommunicationKills: Daine's parents didn't inform her of her true parentage and tell her anything about her powers until several years after her mother died, leaving her to blunder around alone and nearly drive herself insane with her half-god powers in the meantime. They were both on probation due to the whole new-goddess-and-guarantor thing and couldn't visit the mortal world easily. Her father tasked a badger god with keeping an eye on her - the badger checks in on her a few times when she's a baby, then loses track of time and doesn't talk to Daine until she's fourteen. Even then he's coy about her situation.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: Daine's parents didn't inform her of her true parentage and tell her anything about her powers until several years after her mother died, leaving her to blunder around alone and nearly drive herself insane with her half-god powers in the meantime. They were both on probation due to the whole new-goddess-and-guarantor thing and couldn't visit the mortal world easily. Her father tasked a badger god with keeping an eye on her after she was born - the badger checks in on her a few times when she's a baby, then loses track of time and doesn't talk to Daine until she's fourteen.thirteen. Even then he's coy about her situation.



* Really17YearsOld: At the start of the first book Daine tells Onua that she's fifteen. Onua can tell she's off by two years.

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* Really17YearsOld: At the start of the first book Daine tells Onua that she's fifteen. Onua can tell immediately notes that she's off by two years.



* RefusingParadise: [[spoiler:The choice Daine makes at the end of the fourth book. Although she had promised Sarra that she would stay for a year or so long visit early in the book, when Mithros demands she pick one realm and stay there Daine doesn't have to think for long -- she feels more at home in the mortal realm, where most of her friends are.]]

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* RefusingParadise: [[spoiler:The choice Daine makes at the end of the fourth book. Although she had promised Sarra that she would stay for a year or so long visit early in the book, when When Mithros demands she pick one realm and stay there Daine doesn't have to think for long -- she feels more at home in the mortal realm, where most of her friends are.are. She feels obligated to stay with her mother as she'd promised to return to her for a properly long visit, but Sarra knows how much she yearns to go back and releases her from that promise.]]



* ResurrectiveImmortality: The distinction between Immortals and minor gods, some of whom are ''quite'' minor, is that Immortals can be killed normally and gods appear instantly in fresh new bodies. Many minor gods are animals who are hunted and eaten by other gods, and may be annoyed at dying even if it's no big deal for them. Broad-Foot grumbles when the fish god he's just eaten surfaces to splash him in the face. When Daine and Numair traverse a swamp, they're pursued by many gods of mosquitoes, horseflies etc which are not quelled by being smacked and complain that the mortals are being selfish.

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* ResurrectiveImmortality: The distinction between Immortals and minor gods, some of whom are ''quite'' minor, is that Immortals can be killed normally and gods appear instantly in fresh new bodies. Many minor gods are animals who are hunted and eaten by other gods, and may be annoyed at dying even if it's no big deal for them. Broad-Foot grumbles when the fish god he's just eaten surfaces to splash him in the face. When Daine and Numair traverse a swamp, they're pursued by many gods of mosquitoes, horseflies etc which are not quelled by being smacked and complain that the mortals are being selfish.selfish with their blood.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc [[NobodyPoops won't have the animals make messes]], unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends [[BirdPoopGag streak her clothes, hair, and skin with filth]] on a regular basis. Realistic again, she's someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life and takes this in stride. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined.

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc [[NobodyPoops won't have the animals make messes]], unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends [[BirdPoopGag streak her clothes, hair, and skin with filth]] on a regular basis. Realistic again, she's someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life and takes this in stride. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined. People who are familiar with birds also take this with little comment.

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* AngerBornOfWorry: Midway through ''Wild Magic'', a terrified Alanna and Numair positively ''shred'' Daine, giving her a WhatTheHellHero speech of truly epic proportions. Why? [[spoiler:She was trying to contact dolphins telepathically in meditation and decided her heart was too loud -- so she accidentally ''stopped it''.]] No wonder she scared them so badly!

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* AngerBornOfWorry: Midway through ''Wild Magic'', a terrified Alanna is white-faced and Numair positively ''shred'' ''shreds'' Daine, giving her a WhatTheHellHero speech of truly epic proportions. Why? [[spoiler:She was trying to contact dolphins telepathically in meditation and decided her heart was too loud -- so she accidentally ''stopped it''.]] No wonder she scared them so badly!



* AnimalTalk: "The People" have one language which seems to be magical in nature. They usually don't think to talk to other species except when influenced by Daine's human intelligence.

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* AnimalTalk: "The People" have one language which seems to be magical in nature. They usually don't think to talk to other species except when influenced by Daine's human intelligence. Interestingly, while young animals like the half-grown wolf cubs in ''Wolf-Speaker'' also talk, Daine doesn't percieve them as speaking in words until near the end of the book, after she's shared the senses of a young cat.



** Animals and {{Action Girl}}s, as in her other books.



** A less notorious example: Pierce loves animals and {{Action Girl}}s.



* CarnivoreConfusion: Daine initially isn't affected by this despite being able to talk to prey animals (though she stifles her magic when hunting in order to make it fair), because plenty of her animal friends hunt other animals. After she develops her power and learns to shapeshift she had an offscreen incident where she tried deer shape in the Royal Forest in hunting season, and another where she panicked while surrounded, changed into a goose, and almost lost a wing to a barbed arrow. After that she stopped eating game and for a time continues to eat farm animals, deliberately closing herself off from them to do so. However by the end of the quartet the only meat she can eat comes from chicken, mutton, and fish - and the word she uses there is 'manage', which suggests pescatarianism or outright becoming a vegetarian may be in her future.

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* CarnivoreConfusion: Daine initially isn't affected by this despite being able to talk to prey animals (though she stifles her magic when hunting in order to make it fair), because plenty of her animal friends hunt other animals. After she develops her power and learns to shapeshift she had an offscreen incident where she tried deer shape in the Royal Forest in hunting season, and another where she panicked while surrounded, changed into a goose, and almost lost a wing to a barbed arrow. After that she stopped eating game and but for a time continues to eat farm animals, deliberately closing herself off from them to do so. However by the end of the quartet the only meat she can eat comes from chicken, mutton, and fish - and the word she uses there is 'manage', which suggests pescatarianism or outright becoming a vegetarian may be in her future.



* PainfulTransformation: Daine's partial transformations while [[AnimalEyeSpy looking through animals' eyes]] sometimes made her ache. When she figures out outright VoluntaryShapeshifting she seems fine after changing into a wolf, and some hours after changing back, but in the epilogue of that book she mentions spending several days in bed, drinking FoulMedicine to help with the pain as her bones protested having warped so much. By ''Emperor Mage'' it's not an issue.



** Most of Daine's memories about Sarra are positive [[spoiler: and they're both thrilled to be reunited in ''Realms of the Gods'']], but reading between the lines you wonder if she was actually all that responsible or sensible a parent. One of the first things we learn about Sarra is that she spent Daine's entire life periodically testing her for The Gift, either ignoring or oblivious to the fact that she's given Daine a minor complex about not having it. Then there's Daine's continuing trauma of being a bastard in a medieval society, ''and'' in a small town for her whole childhood - which wasn't Sarra's fault at the start, but she never acknowledges what it's done to Daine. Then there's the implications that Sarra was an EthicalSlut, which wasn't considered acceptable in her home village, making Daine's place in society even worse and it's definitely affected Daine's view on romantic relationships. [[spoiler: When Numair hints at marriage [[BigDamnKiss right after they acknowledge their mutual feelings]], her first thought is that "All her life, she'd been told that no one would ever want to marry Sarra's bastard".]] There's more than a few implications that Sarra was a BunnyEarsLawyer, being something of a ditz outside her work as a healer and the work she enjoyed around the house and garden - Daine's pov and even Sarra's dialogue implies that Daine looked after Sarra as much or more as Sarra looked after her, which isn't a healthy thing to burden a child with. Not to mention the hypocrisy of a woman who was murdered by bandits, leaving her thirteen year old daughter to find her mutilated body, telling her off for fighting and killing ''while in the middle of a war'', because "that's not women's work" .

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** Most of Daine's memories about Sarra are positive [[spoiler: and they're both thrilled to be reunited in ''Realms of the Gods'']], but reading between the lines you wonder if she was actually all that responsible or sensible a parent. One of the first things we learn about Sarra is that she spent Daine's entire life periodically testing her for The Gift, either ignoring or oblivious to the fact that she's given Daine a minor complex about not having it. Then there's Daine's continuing trauma of being a bastard in a medieval society, ''and'' in a small town for her whole childhood - which wasn't Sarra's fault at the start, but she never acknowledges what it's done to Daine. Then there's the implications that Sarra was an EthicalSlut, which wasn't considered acceptable in something that didn't ''destroy'' her home reputation in the village, but it made things harder especially when she refused to marry one of her long-term lovers since Daine's absent father wouldn't approve, making Daine's place in society even worse and it's definitely affected Daine's view on romantic relationships. [[spoiler: When Numair hints at marriage [[BigDamnKiss right after they acknowledge their mutual feelings]], her first thought is that "All her life, she'd been told that no one would ever want to marry Sarra's bastard".]] There's more than a few implications that Sarra was a BunnyEarsLawyer, being something of a ditz outside her work as a healer and the work she enjoyed around the house and garden - Daine's pov and even Sarra's dialogue implies that Daine looked after Sarra as much or more as Sarra looked after her, which isn't a healthy thing to burden a child with. Not to mention the hypocrisy of a woman who was murdered by bandits, leaving her thirteen year old daughter to find her mutilated body, telling her off for fighting and killing ''while in the middle of a war'', because "that's not women's work" .

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''The Immortals'' is the second series set in the Literature/TortallUniverse. Veralidaine Sarrasri, more commonly called Daine, is a a thirteen-year-old girl on the run from her past. She has a "knack for animals" that borders on the supernatural, attracting the attention of Numair Salmalín, TheArchmage of Tortall. As he instructs her, they realize that her power may be greater than either of them can imagine.

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''The Immortals'' is the second series set in the Literature/TortallUniverse.Literature/TortallUniverse, taking place ten years after ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness''. Veralidaine Sarrasri, more commonly called Daine, is a a thirteen-year-old girl on the run from her past. She has a "knack for animals" that borders on the supernatural, attracting the attention of Numair Salmalín, TheArchmage of Tortall. As he instructs her, they realize that her power may be greater than either of them can imagine.



* AlienBlood: The blood of gods and most Immortals is silver. Spidren blood is black and [[BloodyMurder burns like acid]].
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Daine's father is described as being olive brown [[spoiler: with streaks of green. Being a god he might be of any ethnicity or none]]. Daine mentions in the first book that she stood out in Snowsdale among so many blue-eyed blondes, and some book cover renditions make her brown-skinned as well.

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* AlienBlood: The blood of gods and most Immortals is silver. Spidren blood is black and [[BloodyMurder burns like acid]]. \n Ogre blood is teal.
* AmbiguouslyBrown: Daine's father is described as being olive very brown [[spoiler: with streaks of green. Being a god he might be of any ethnicity or none]]. Daine mentions in the first book that she stood out in Snowsdale among so many blue-eyed blondes, and some book cover renditions make her brown-skinned as well.



* AmplifiedAnimalAptitude: This happens to any animals that spend a lot of time around Daine, especially if they get any of her blood in their mouths. She's not happy about it because they're not used to the sudden influx of intelligence and it makes their lives very complicated, but it's not something she can control.
** She realizes it's happening to the wolf Brokefang, who's experiencing a rushing-in of knowledge and awareness that he struggles to manage and keep up with - he knows that he and his pack-mates and children will die and that all other animals, and humans, are complex beings that do things for reasons that make sense to them. Daine feels that she's taken his innocence and he won't be happy as a normal wolf anymore.

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* AmplifiedAnimalAptitude: This happens to any animals that spend a lot of time around Daine, especially if they get any of her blood in their mouths. She's not happy about it because they're not used to In the sudden influx of intelligence and it makes their lives very complicated, but first book it's not something she can control.
** She realizes it's happening to the
a big deal, but ''Wolf-Speaker'' opens with a wolf Brokefang, who's she knows contacting her for help when humans start to ruin his pack's new territory. Normally wolves would just leave as conditions became difficult for them, but Brokefang has actual plans and doesn't want to go. Brokefang's experiencing a rushing-in of knowledge and awareness that he struggles to manage and keep up with - he knows that he and his pack-mates and children will die and understands that all other animals, and humans, are complex beings that do things for reasons that make sense to them. them, and that he and his pack-mates and children will die. Daine feels that she's taken his innocence and he won't be happy as a normal wolf anymore.anymore, but she can't prevent it.



** Numair is unable to use healing magic in this quartet, while in ''Tempests and Slaughter'' (written later, set earlier) his healing prowess was quite central. It may be, given that healing takes very precise control per a conversation in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'', that as he got stronger he lost that precision.



* DisappearedDad:
** Daine never knew her father and was only aware that he's someone her mother met on Beltane. Sarra said she'd explain someday, but died before that day came.
** Lady Yolane and Lady Maura are half sisters with the same father. They talk about him in the past tense, but don't elaborate on how long it's been.



* EnlightenedSelfInterest: The nobles running Fief Dunlath are strip mining for opals and clearcutting their forests. Sent by wolves to try to convince them to stop, Daine tries appealing to their self interest. Their activities are poisoning the big central lake and killing or driving off the wild game, which isn't sustainable if they want to support themselves and their people on their own land. Unfortunately for her, these nobles care only about their own futures and wave her off.



* EyeScream: The first time Daine meets a Stormwing it's Zhaneh Bitterclaws, and Daine shoots her in the eye. Zhaneh [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction doesn't appreciably react]] but is furious with her. In her two appearances afterwards, the Stormwing's ruined eye is black and oozing.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Yolane is strip mining her fiefdom [[spoiler: to sell opals to Carthak, an operation overseen by mages loyal to Ozorne and an assortment of Immortals they've summoned. Being third cousin to King Jonathan, she has ambitions to become Tortall's Queen. She falters when the mages discuss using bloodrain, which will poison the land for miles and kill everything in the vicinity, an effect that will take seven years just to start fading. Ambitious though she is, she did swear to keep Dunlath safe. The mages and her husband wave this away, though.]]
* EyeScream: The first time Stormwing Daine meets a Stormwing it's is Zhaneh Bitterclaws, and Daine shoots her in the eye. Zhaneh [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction doesn't appreciably react]] but is furious with her. In her two appearances afterwards, the Stormwing's ruined eye is black and oozing.



* ForgottenFallenFriend: Daine's beloved dog Mammoth, who was killed along with her mother and grandfather in the bandit raid on their farm and whom she deeply regrets losing, is never mentioned again after a few times early in her first book.

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* ForgottenFallenFriend: Daine's beloved dog Mammoth, who was killed along with her mother and grandfather in the bandit raid on their farm and whom she deeply regrets losing, is never mentioned again after a few times early outside of her recounting the bandit attack in her first book.



* FoulMedicine: Daine's given a tonic to help with her sunburn and muscle strain after she's been up on a wall firing arrows for hours in ''Wild Magic''. It's tomato juice "laden with salt and other things". Whatever those other things are, she chokes and exclaims at the taste and has to brace herself to gulp it down.



* MercyKill: In Daine's backstory, after her mother was killed she went feral and ran naked and on all fours with wolves. The villagers thought she'd gone mad. The friendliest wanted to put her down with as little pain as possible.

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* MercyKill: In Daine's backstory, after her mother was killed she went feral and ran naked and on all fours with wolves. The villagers thought she'd gone mad. The friendliest of them wanted to put her down with as little pain as possible.



** When Daine's in wolf shape and running with wolves to hunt a noblewoman on a horse, she tells the horse to dump Yolane and run for it. The horse is too fearful to respond to Daine as readily as most animals do, but she hesitates, and Yolane hits her with a riding crop. Having had enough, the horse bucks her off and flees.



* OddFriendship: Daine and Rikash the Stormwing. [[spoiler:She even names one of her kids after him after he dies.]]

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* OddFriendship: Daine and Rikash the Stormwing.Stormwing, rather to her surprise in ''Emperor Mage'' as she finds herself settling into a mildly antagonistic banter with him. [[spoiler:She even names one of her kids after him after he dies.]]



* PartialTransformation: Daine's AnimalEyeSpy efforts soon start to transform her body, leaving her part animal when she returns to herself. Sometimes this is useful, sometimes it hampers her. She learns to control the changes and prevent or induce them when she wants to, and soon starts changing just her eyes or ears at need.



* TheProphecy: It's a ''bad'' prophecy! [[spoiler:Uuosae, Queen of Chaos, will eventually defeat her divine siblings and turn all realms to Chaos; in other words destroying everything. Most of ''The Realms of the Gods'' is about preventing this from happening.]]

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* PregnancyDoesNotWorkThatWay: In ''Wild Magic'' a pregnant dragon who's already at the point of having contractions miscarries and the contractions stop. Daine, who's only just learned how to heal mundane animals, has a bout of PowerIncontinence and heals her - the dragon's fetus returns to life and the contractions start again, and she flies off to give birth. In live bearing animals, contractions happen regardless of whether a fetus is alive - it still has to leave the womb. Admittedly, this is a dragon.
* TheProphecy: Two!
** The first is that hyenas will bring about Ozorne's doom. He keeps some in his menagerie in an attempt to show that he's not afraid of them.
** The other is older.
It's a ''bad'' prophecy! [[spoiler:Uuosae, Queen of Chaos, will eventually defeat her divine siblings and turn all realms to Chaos; in other words destroying everything. Most of ''The Realms of the Gods'' is about preventing this from happening.]]]]
* ProportionalAging: The baby dragon Daine starts taking care of in ''Wild Magic'' will be an infant for thirty years. Dragons are Immortals, said to live forever unless killed, and grow very slowly. In ''The Realms of the Gods'' Daine meets a few more young dragons who're considerably older but still seen as young children.
* Really17YearsOld: At the start of the first book Daine tells Onua that she's fifteen. Onua can tell she's off by two years.



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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc [[NobodyPoops won't have the animals make messes]], unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends [[BirdPoopGag streak her clothes, hair, and skin with filth]] on a regular basis. Realistic again, she's someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life and takes this in stride. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined.


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* VillainByDefault: Used and then deconstructed with the [[HarpingOnAboutHarpies Stormwings]]. They desecrate bodies on the battlefield and feed on human fear, so they are universally hated by nearly all humans, and most other creatures. In ''Wild Magic'' they simply seem to be evil, helping Tortall's enemies and attacking Daine. She goes into ''Wolf-Speaker'' expecting that they're AlwaysChaoticEvil but several characters tell her not to do so. When she meets Rikash, who's taken on an older brother role for a young girl, Daine is forced to grasp that Stormwings are individuals and anyway can't choose their nature, which was decided by a long-ago creator who wanted to show humans that WarIsHell.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc won't have the animals make messes, unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends streak her clothes, hair, and skin with filth on a regular basis and she, as someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life, has basically no reaction to this and touches feces without hesitation. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined.

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* TheDragonsComeBack: Ozorne and his ilk are not interested in summoning dragons from the Divine Realms because dragons, being intelligent and powerful mages themselves, are no one's pawns, but one gets accidentally caught up in a summoning spell anyway in ''Wild Magic''. She dies, and her newborn dragonet is adopted by Daine. At the end of the quartet many Immortals remain in the Mortal Realms, but (aside from Skysong) the dragons stay in the Dragonlands, though they rather haughtily say that they can cross the worlds at any time regardless.
** ''Dragons'' may have elected not to return but the impact of the other species' return is huge, and ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' deals heavily with the effects of this change in the world. Monsters are about, and strange people who may be dealt with ''as'' people but also have their own strange customs and criminals. In ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' a breakdown of the demographics of Tortall has ''one in ten people'' be a sapient, talking Immortal.
* DragonRider: Diamondflame takes Daine on his back in the fourth book.



** Daine's magic causes most animals to love her just from being in her vicinity. Whenever she asks them to do something they're curious to eager and often think it sounds fun; at worst, they worry that it will be scary or hurt but a single line of encouragement causes them to obey her anyway. If she's sufficiently angry or upset they'll attack whatever's upset her without regard for their own lives. Daine feels the pain of their injuries and deaths and hates sending her "friends" to die, but she quickly comes to expect that all animals will ''want'' to risk themselves for her, and when she asks for their help it's really just a nice facade over a command. She's ''furious'' when she asks a pod of whales with calves to defend her and her friends and they refuse, not willing to kill or be killed for her sake, and tries to force them. She also dislikes rats, who are only willing to help her if they get something for it. When she's OlderAndWiser Daine considers the effect she has on animals more carefully and prefers to leave them to their own devices more, but in ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' she still resents whales for being able to refuse her.

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** Daine's magic causes most animals to love her just from being in her vicinity. Whenever she asks them to do something they're curious to eager and often think it sounds fun; at worst, they worry that it will be scary or hurt but a single line of encouragement causes them to obey her anyway. If she's sufficiently angry or upset they'll attack whatever's upset her without regard for their own lives. Daine feels the pain of their injuries and deaths and hates sending her "friends" to die, but she quickly comes to expect that all animals will ''want'' to risk themselves for her, and when she asks for their help it's really just a nice facade over a command. When Alanna's charger Darkmoon doesn't want to participate in Daine's training Daine wants to put him in his place. She's ''furious'' when she asks a pod of whales with calves to defend her and her friends and they refuse, not willing to kill or be killed for her sake, and tries to force them. She also dislikes rats, who are only willing to help her if they get something for it. When she's OlderAndWiser Daine considers the effect she has on animals more carefully and prefers to leave them to their own devices more, but in ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' she still resents whales for being able to refuse her.


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* GenreShift: Lightly so. Each book of the quartet has its own tone and focus. ''Wild Magic'' is highly concerned with characters from the last quartet and with a new cast of mostly low-powered individuals in Onua and the Riders. ''Wolf-Speaker'' has the lowest stakes and entirely takes place in Fief Dunlath. ''Emperor Mage'' takes place in Carthak, where Daine is at the edges of an important political conversation and a tool of a malicious Goddess. ''The Realms of the Gods'' brings in a totally new antagonist and very high stakes, is generally stranger, and mostly takes place in the titular realms.


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* NotSoExtinct: All the immortal species returning from the Divine Realms.

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* NonIndicativeName: The cart horse "Mangle" is a perfectly docile gelding. Daine is startled and amused when Stefan tells her the horse's name, and he doesn't explain himself. Seemingly giving names like this is a trait of Stefan's - in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' he calls a [[HorsingAround much more fractious horse]] "Peachblossom".
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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: Retroactively. ''Tempests and Slaughter'' has Arram (later [[MeaningfulRename called Numair]]) befriending an ancient crocodile god, taking care of a baby sunbird, and being favored by the Graveyard Hag. You'd think some of this would come up in The Immortals, set fifteen years later or so, especially when Daine is also 'favored' by the Hag, and when she and Numair are in the Divine Realms, passing through the swamp of another ancient crocodile god and watching sunbirds overhead. The Hag LovesSecrecy and gleefully prevents Daine from telling anyone about her so it's not hard to imagine she'd also keep Numair from talking, but you'd think he would share about the other stuff. Despite the chronology of events, The Immortals was written more than twenty years before Numair's book.
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* RememberTheNewGuy: Numair's nowhere to be seen in ''Song of the Lioness'', but three chapters into ''Wild Magic'' Alanna says he's one of her best friends. There's actually a gap of ''ten years'' between the quartets, but since they don't start the book saying it's been a decade since Alanna was knighted it takes several chapters and a mention that the Queen's Riders were formed nine years ago to quite realize that enough time has passed for Numair to have reasonably become as important to Tortall and Alanna as he is.
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* TookALevelInJerkass: Sarge in the earlier set but later-written ''Tempests and Slaughter'', where he goes by Musenda, is very careful, polite, and kind. In that book he is a slave, so it's dangerous for him to show a harsher side to Arram, a mage student in excellent standing with connections to the Carthaki royal family. In ''Wild Magic'' he's a free man with a good position training Queen's Rider trainees (as well as pages in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'') and while he isn't ''cruel'', he does shout and lightly condescend to trainees who aren't taking their lessons seriously.
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* EquivalentExchange: Certain powerful spells known as "words of power" have an equal and opposite effect elsewhere in the world. [[spoiler:So when Numair turns Tristan into a tree, somewhere in the world a tree becomes a man. His story is told in ''Literature/TortallAndOtherRealms''.]]

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* EquivalentExchange: Certain powerful spells known as "words of power" have an equal and opposite effect elsewhere in the world. [[spoiler:So when Numair turns Tristan into a tree, somewhere in the world a tree becomes a man. His story is told in ''Literature/TortallAndOtherRealms''.''Literature/TortallAndOtherLands''.]]



** So many people asked about what happened to the tree that became a man that Pierce wrote a short story about it, "Elder Brother", for an anthology.

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* ActionMom: Thayet, founder of the Queen's Riders. They're a cavalry group with many female members.

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* ActionMom: Two!
** Alanna the Lioness, heroine of ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness'' and still King's Champion, is now a mother of three.
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* AlienBlood: The blood of gods and most Immortals is silver.silver. Spidren blood is black and [[BloodyMurder burns like acid]].



* AnimalStereotypes: Wild magic, anyone? A number of them are also purposefully broken. Almost all the animals that appear in the books are portrayed positively, with Daine overturning humans' prejudice about many species traditionally seen as evil, such as wolves, hyenas, bats and crocodiles. Rats, however, are not so lucky (see YouDirtyRat!).

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* AnimalStereotypes: Wild magic, anyone? A number of them are also purposefully broken. Almost all the animals that appear in the books are portrayed positively, with Daine overturning humans' prejudice about many species traditionally seen as evil, such as wolves, hyenas, bats and crocodiles. Rats, however, are not so lucky (see YouDirtyRat!). Daine also comes to dislike whales.



* BeautyEqualsGoodness:

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* BeautyEqualsGoodness:BeautyEqualsGoodness: Used with Jonathan and Thayet, who Daine finds impossibly beautiful.



* CarnivoreConfusion: Daine initially isn't affected by this despite being able to talk to prey animals (though she stifles her magic when hunting in order to make it fair), but after she develops her power and learns to shapeshift she has trouble with this, and no longer eats game. For a while she's still able to eat farm animals, but after having to shapeshift into a goose the only meat she'll take is fish, as she can sense but not talk to them.

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* CarnivoreConfusion: Daine initially isn't affected by this despite being able to talk to prey animals (though she stifles her magic when hunting in order to make it fair), but after because plenty of her animal friends hunt other animals. After she develops her power and learns to shapeshift she has trouble with this, had an offscreen incident where she tried deer shape in the Royal Forest in hunting season, and no longer eats game. For a another where she panicked while she's still able surrounded, changed into a goose, and almost lost a wing to a barbed arrow. After that she stopped eating game and for a time continues to eat farm animals, but after having deliberately closing herself off from them to shapeshift into a goose do so. However by the end of the quartet the only meat she'll take is fish, as she can sense but not talk to them.eat comes from chicken, mutton, and fish - and the word she uses there is 'manage', which suggests pescatarianism or outright becoming a vegetarian may be in her future.



* CharacterOverlap: Jon, Thayet, and Alanna are prominent secondary characters.
* ChekhovsGun: Every book in the quartet has at least one, however, the prize probably goes to the Badger God's claw, which he gives to Daine in almost the first chapter of the first book (it turns to solid silver and she wears it as a pendant) so he can keep track of her in the mortal realms. [[spoiler:In the climax of the last book, Daine uses it to kill Ozorne the Stormwing]].

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* CharacterOverlap: Jon, Thayet, and especially Alanna are prominent secondary characters.
characters. Alanna is a very strong presence in the first book and part of the delegation to Carthak in the third.
* ChekhovsGun: Every book in the quartet has at least one, however, the prize probably goes to the Badger God's claw, which he gives to Daine in almost the first chapter of the first book (it turns to solid silver and she wears it as a pendant) so he can keep track of her in the mortal realms.realms. As a part of a god, it seems to be made from solid silver. She wears it as a pendant and finds that when she shapeshifts, unlike the rest of her clothing it stays with her. [[spoiler:In the climax of the last book, Daine uses it to kill Ozorne the Stormwing]].



* EntitledToHaveYou: Daine's magic causes most animals to love her just from being in her vicinity. Whenever she asks them to do something they're curious to eager and often think it sounds fun; at worst, they worry that it will be scary or hurt but a single line of encouragement causes them to obey her anyway. If she's sufficiently angry or upset they'll attack whatever's upset her without regard for their own lives. Daine feels the pain of their injuries and deaths and hates sending her "friends" to die, but she quickly comes to expect that all animals will ''want'' to risk themselves for her, and when she asks for their help it's really just a nice facade over a command. She's ''furious'' when she asks a pod of whales with calves to defend her and her friends and they refuse, not willing to kill or be killed for her sake, and tries to force them. She also dislikes rats, who are only willing to help her if they get something for it. When she's OlderAndWiser Daine considers the effect she has on animals more carefully and prefers to leave them to their own devices more, but in ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' she still resents whales for being able to refuse her.
* EquivalentExchange: Certain powerful spells have an opposite effect. [[spoiler:So when Numair turns Tristan into a tree, somewhere in the world a tree becomes a man.]]

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Daine's magic causes most animals to love her just from being in her vicinity. Whenever she asks them to do something they're curious to eager and often think it sounds fun; at worst, they worry that it will be scary or hurt but a single line of encouragement causes them to obey her anyway. If she's sufficiently angry or upset they'll attack whatever's upset her without regard for their own lives. Daine feels the pain of their injuries and deaths and hates sending her "friends" to die, but she quickly comes to expect that all animals will ''want'' to risk themselves for her, and when she asks for their help it's really just a nice facade over a command. She's ''furious'' when she asks a pod of whales with calves to defend her and her friends and they refuse, not willing to kill or be killed for her sake, and tries to force them. She also dislikes rats, who are only willing to help her if they get something for it. When she's OlderAndWiser Daine considers the effect she has on animals more carefully and prefers to leave them to their own devices more, but in ''Literature/TortallASpysGuide'' she still resents whales for being able to refuse her.
* EquivalentExchange: Certain powerful spells known as "words of power" have an equal and opposite effect.effect elsewhere in the world. [[spoiler:So when Numair turns Tristan into a tree, somewhere in the world a tree becomes a man. His story is told in ''Literature/TortallAndOtherRealms''.]]



* GoneHorriblyRight: At the end of ''Emperor Mage'', [[spoiler:Daine and Rikash force Ozorne to turn into a Stormwing. In the next book, he has taken leadership of several Stormwing clans, used his immortal powers to create a network of spies and very nasty magic killers, and makes a deal with the ruler of Chaos that comes close to destroying the divine and human realms.]]

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* GoneHorriblyRight: At the end of ''Emperor Mage'', [[spoiler:Daine and Rikash force Ozorne to turn into a Stormwing. Stormwing, and they both believe that despite Ozorne having a clumsy head start Rikash will catch up and get control of him, but it turns out Ozorne's an InstantExpert when it comes to both flying and Stormwing magic. In the next book, he Ozorne has taken leadership of several Stormwing clans, used his immortal powers to create a network of spies and very nasty magic killers, and makes a deal with the ruler of Chaos that comes close to destroying the divine and human realms.]]
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* DemotedToExtra: If you read chronologically, ''Tempests and Slaughter'' comes before this quartet. That book is ''much'' longer and goes into more detail about numerous characters who appear in ''Emperor Mage'' in much smaller roles. Most notable is Chioké, who here is just the most prominent of Ozorne's loyal mages. Varice fares a little better but she's no longer close friends with Ozorne, merely a courtier and functionary of his. Lindhall actually gets more depth here than in ''Tempests and Slaughter'', as he's actively working to smuggle slaves out of Carthak.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Usually media involving a FriendToAllLivingThings who's regularly perched on by numerous birds etc won't have the animals make messes, unless it's a gross out moment PlayedForLaughs. Daine's animal friends streak her clothes, hair, and skin with filth on a regular basis and she, as someone who's loved and taken care of animals for her whole life, has basically no reaction to this and touches feces without hesitation. She's only bothered when realizing that another human who'll be disgusted will see her, or when she realizes that she's forgotten to take off a beautiful garment and now it's ruined.
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* BowsVersusCrossbows: Averted. Daine is as straight an ArcherArchetype as can be, but she's just as good with a crossbow as she is with the longbow even though she prefers the latter. In ''Wolf-Speaker'' two Stormwings mock her for using a crossbow, assuming that it's too short-range and slow-loading to be a threat, and she shoots both of them out of the sky [[YourEyesCanDeceiveYou with her eyes closed]].

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* BowsVersusCrossbows: Averted. Daine is as straight an ArcherArchetype as can be, but she's just as good with a crossbow as she is with the longbow even though she prefers the latter. In ''Wolf-Speaker'' two Stormwings mock her for using a crossbow, assuming that it's too short-range and slow-loading to be a threat, and she shoots both of them out of the sky [[YourEyesCanDeceiveYou with her eyes closed]].

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