History Literature / StarshipTroopers

27th Mar '17 10:15:08 AM Conradus
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''Starship Troopers'' is notable for codifying the concept of {{Powered Armor}} and being an early example of the {{Space Marine}} trope. It was also the first science fiction book to appear on the U.S. military's recommended reading lists. It is also significant, and controversial, for its description of the Terran Federation's political system. It is a limited democracy, in which only "veterans" of Federal Service are eligible to vote, run for office, hold certain jobs, or even teach some subjects at school. Needless to say this alone tends to provoke accusations ranging from 'jingoistic' up to 'fascist propaganda.'

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''Starship Troopers'' is notable for codifying the concept of {{Powered Armor}} and being an early example of the {{Space Marine}} trope. It was also the first science fiction book to appear on the U.S. military's recommended reading lists. It is also significant, and controversial, for its description of the Terran Federation's political system. It is a limited democracy, in which only "veterans" of Federal Service are eligible to vote, run for office, hold certain jobs, or even teach some subjects at school. It should be noted that this service is ''not'' necessarily military/combat and in fact usually isn't, although you have no choice where they send you and non-military service is only mentioned in a few brief sentences and never shown. Needless to say this alone tends to provoke accusations ranging from 'jingoistic' up to 'fascist propaganda.'
21st Feb '17 12:28:45 PM Bissek
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* IllPretendIDidntHearThat: During basic training, a recruit strikes a drill instructor. Though the instructor and later the base commander do their best to ignore this, the recruit makes it impossible for them to do so (saying point-blank that he did it during a formal legal procedure). He's instantly court martialed, found guilty, whipped, and dishonorably discharged which is actually a light sentence possible only through some deft legal maneuvering on the part of the commander, because striking a superior is a capital offense in wartime.

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* IllPretendIDidntHearThat: During basic training, a recruit strikes a drill instructor.instructor outside of approved circumstances[[note]]Under certain conditions, most notably combat exercises against said instructor, the recruits are encouraged to try to hit the instructors, and are congratulated if they actually succeed[[/note]]. Though the instructor and later the base commander do their best to ignore this, the recruit makes it impossible for them to do so (saying point-blank that he did it during a formal legal procedure). He's instantly court martialed, found guilty, whipped, and dishonorably discharged which is actually a light sentence possible only through some deft legal maneuvering on the part of the commander, because striking a superior is a capital offense in wartime.
5th Jan '17 11:45:42 AM SilverDragon
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*** The recruiter's job is literally to scare away anyone who isn't signing up for the right reasons. The recruiter states that, if your smart enough to understand the oath and choose to take it, Federal Service ''has'' to find something for you to do. Even if you're a wheelchair-bound quadrapalegic, they'll find some way for you to earn your citizenship. But they want to make sure you know, in advance, the the work is (by design) dangerous and unhealthy, since that's the kind of work required to earn the responsibility of citizenship.

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*** The recruiter's job is literally to scare away anyone who isn't signing up for the right reasons. The recruiter states that, if your you're smart enough to understand the oath and choose to take it, Federal Service ''has'' to find something for you to do. Even if you're a wheelchair-bound quadrapalegic, quadriplegic, they'll find some way for you to earn your citizenship. But they want to make sure you know, in advance, the that the work is (by design) dangerous and unhealthy, since that's the kind of work required to earn the responsibility of citizenship.
27th Dec '16 11:09:46 AM ErikModi
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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: Subverted. The number of Mobile Infantry seems pitifully small to fight an interplanetary war, smaller than many real-world armies today. But the Roughnecks are considered enough to take on entire planets alone, and at one point Rico is highly stressed by a fight where the troopers are so close together than it's very difficult to fight without risking a friendly fire incident: namely a trooper every ''mile'' or so. Mobile Infantry are just that badass... and having PowredArmor and [[NukeEm man-portable tactical nukes]] probably helps, too.

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: Subverted. The number of Mobile Infantry seems pitifully small to fight an interplanetary war, smaller than many real-world armies today. But the Roughnecks are considered enough to take on entire planets alone, and at one point Rico is highly stressed by a fight where the troopers are so close together than that it's very difficult to fight without risking a friendly fire incident: namely a trooper every ''mile'' or so. Mobile Infantry are just that badass... and having PowredArmor PoweredArmor and [[NukeEm man-portable tactical nukes]] probably helps, too.
27th Dec '16 11:03:15 AM ErikModi
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** Johnnie notes that a less-friendly one exists between the Mobile Infantry and the Merchant Marines. Part of it stems from the Merchant Marines having tried for years to get their trade classed as "Federal Service," and thus grant citizenship, but Johnnie notes that a lot of it is just stuff that goes back centuries.
27th Dec '16 11:00:35 AM ErikModi
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* InsigniaRipOffRitual: Played dead seriously during the execution of a child murderer who deserted from boot camp. While the desertion is an offense ''de jure'' worth fifty lashes and a dishonorable discharge, it's one that would never be followed up, since service is voluntary and a deserter will never make a soldier (or a citizen). But, in every sense of the phrase, the M.I. takes care of its own.

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* InsigniaRipOffRitual: Played dead seriously during the execution of a child murderer who deserted from boot camp. While the desertion is an offense ''de jure'' worth fifty lashes and a dishonorable discharge, it's one that would never be followed up, since service is voluntary and a deserter will never make a soldier (or a citizen). But, in every sense of the phrase, the M.I. takes care of its own. The actual ripoff ritual is described. The guilty man is trotted out to the gallows in full dress uniform, then every pin, ribbon, and button is carefully removed until he's standing in what looks like a bad brown suit. ''Then'' he's hanged.
27th Dec '16 10:50:24 AM ErikModi
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** Johnnie has something of an existential crisis when he overhears a conversation between Zim and his superior officer, where Zim admits that he's at fault for a recruits offense that resulted in a dishonorable discharge. Zim admits that he ''liked'' that particular cadet, and wasn't as wary of him as he should have been. Johnnie just can't grasp that not only do the Drill Sergeants ''make mistakes'', but that they might actually ''like'' the recruits they're training. Deconstructing the trope nearly deconstructs Johnnie Rico.
27th Dec '16 10:46:42 AM ErikModi
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*** The recruiter's job is literally to scare away anyone who isn't signing up for the right reasons. The recruiter states that, if your smart enough to understand the oath and choose to take it, Federal Service ''has'' to find something for you to do. Even if you're a wheelchair-bound quadrapalegic, they'll find some way for you to earn your citizenship. But they want to make sure you know, in advance, the the work is (by design) dangerous and unhealthy, since that's the kind of work required to earn the responsibility of citizenship.
11th Dec '16 9:09:28 AM LBHills
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4th Dec '16 11:18:34 AM Specialist290
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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: Subverted. The number of Mobile Infantry seems pitifully small to fight an interplanetary war, smaller than many real-world armies today. But the Roughnecks are considered enough to take on entire planets alone, and at one point Rico is highly stressed by a fight where the troopers are so close together than it's very difficult to fight without risking a friendly fire incident: namely a trooper every ''mile'' or so. Mobile Infantry are just that badass.

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: Subverted. The number of Mobile Infantry seems pitifully small to fight an interplanetary war, smaller than many real-world armies today. But the Roughnecks are considered enough to take on entire planets alone, and at one point Rico is highly stressed by a fight where the troopers are so close together than it's very difficult to fight without risking a friendly fire incident: namely a trooper every ''mile'' or so. Mobile Infantry are just that badass.badass... and having PowredArmor and [[NukeEm man-portable tactical nukes]] probably helps, too.



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* SpaceCadetSpaceCadet: Johnnie eventually advances in rank enough to become a viable officer candidate.
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