History Literature / StarshipTroopers

7th Nov '17 3:19:03 PM Malady
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** The classroom sections fall into this to some extent, although the exposition comes across fairly unobtrusively in Socratic form; the TurkeyCityLexicon would refer to this type of seamless {{expospeak}} as "Heinleining" in Bob's honor.

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** The classroom sections fall into this to some extent, although the exposition comes across fairly unobtrusively in Socratic form; the TurkeyCityLexicon Website/TurkeyCityLexicon would refer to this type of seamless {{expospeak}} as "Heinleining" in Bob's honor.
28th Aug '17 3:32:47 PM foxley
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* FakeInTheHole: Played with. In the first chapter, during a raid against a race referred to as the Skinnies, the protagonist finds himself in a building full of them. He throws something at random and it turns out to be a Thirty Second Bomb. When thrown it starts saying "I'm a thirty-second bomb! I'm a thirty-second bomb! Twenty-nine! . . . twenty-eight! . . . twenty-seven! ". The book doesn't say if there is an explosion at the end or not. Given the attack was meant as a show of force with the aim of causing maximum material damage with a minimum of casualties it is possible that it is a straight example.
10th Aug '17 5:06:20 PM binaroid
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* DeskJockey[=/=]SoldiersAtTheRear: Both doubly subverted; everyone in the MI fights. Any job that is not fighting is undertaken by other branches of the Civil Service. Because all MI officers fight, and they drop first (and therefore sustain a higher casualty rate than enlisted men), officers often find themselves juggling multiple desk jobs along with their combat duty.
** And jobs that can't be handled by either (like instructors at Officer Candidate School) are filled by officers who have been crippled, but refuse to be discharged. One notable example is the Dirty Fighting instructor, who was wheelchair bound and wore a neck brace, [[BadassGrandpa and could still kick your ass]].

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* DeskJockey[=/=]SoldiersAtTheRear: Both doubly subverted; everyone in the MI fights. Any job that is not fighting is undertaken by civilian contractors or other branches of the Civil Service. Service -- unless they "require fighting spirit". Because all MI officers fight, and they drop first (and therefore sustain a higher casualty rate than enlisted men), active-duty officers often find themselves juggling multiple desk jobs along with their combat duty.
duty. Johnnie's officer training school tour as a 3rd Lieutenant with Blackie's Blackguards has him wearing enough hats that Captain Blackstone has to teach him a valuable lesson about time management.
** And jobs Jobs that can't be handled by either civilians or active MI (like instructors at Officer Candidate School) are filled by officers who have been crippled, but refuse to be discharged. One notable example is the Dirty Fighting instructor, who was wheelchair bound and wore a neck brace, [[BadassGrandpa and could still kick your ass]].
6th Aug '17 12:22:37 AM Fireblood
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** Ted Hendryck is sentenced to [[ATasteOfTheLAsh flogging]] before getting a dishonourable discharge for assaulting Sgt. Zim during training (and telling it before an officer in presence of witnesses: the officers had realized what happened since he saw him and was trying to ''avoid'' a court martial, but when he admitted it...).

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** Ted Hendryck is sentenced to [[ATasteOfTheLAsh flogging]] before getting a dishonourable discharge for assaulting Sgt. Zim during training (and telling it before an officer in presence of witnesses: the officers had realized what happened since he saw him and was trying to ''avoid'' a court martial, but when he admitted it...). Zim actually goes out of his way to save Hendryck's life, by having a summary court martial, not a general one, because the latter would have given him the death sentence. He blames himself for letting Hendryck hit him to begin with.



** Another soldier is publicly hanged for kidnapping and then murdering a little girl (kidnapping itself is a capital crime, the book specifically notes, even without the murder).



* DeskJockey[=/=]SoldiersAtTheRear: Both doubly subverted; Everyone in the MI fights. Any job that is not fighting is undertaken by other branches of the Civil Service. Because all MI officers fight, and they drop first (and therefore sustain a higher casualty rate than enlisted men), officers often find themselves juggling multiple desk jobs along with their combat duty.

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* DeskJockey[=/=]SoldiersAtTheRear: Both doubly subverted; Everyone everyone in the MI fights. Any job that is not fighting is undertaken by other branches of the Civil Service. Because all MI officers fight, and they drop first (and therefore sustain a higher casualty rate than enlisted men), officers often find themselves juggling multiple desk jobs along with their combat duty.



* FantasticRacism: Most of the human characters in the book knows they might have to exterminate the Bugs to win, and are basically okay with that ("Us or them" is the exact phrase). Arguably a JustifiedTrope: all those characters are [[ARealManIsAKiller soldiers]], and the Bugs ''are'' pretty clearly bent on exterminating us. Bugs are also a different species so calling this "racism" is a bit of a stretch anyway.

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* FantasticRacism: Most of the human characters in the book knows know they might have to exterminate the Bugs to win, and are basically okay with that ("Us or them" is the exact phrase). Arguably a JustifiedTrope: all those characters are [[ARealManIsAKiller soldiers]], and the Bugs ''are'' pretty clearly bent on exterminating us. Bugs are also a different species so calling this "racism" is a bit of a stretch anyway.
5th Aug '17 3:28:19 PM KingClark
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** "Bought the farm/Real estate deal."

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** "Bought the farm/Real farm/real estate deal."
15th Jul '17 10:49:46 AM nombretomado
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''Starship Troopers'' is a MilitaryScienceFiction novel written by Creator/RobertAHeinlein as an argument against a unilateral U.S. ban on nuclear testing, and published in 1959. It waxes {{Anvilicious}} on the merits of soldiers being willing to give their lives for their country and the proper merits of a soldier, an officer, and an army and nation as a whole. Heinlein, a former naval officer who had received a health-related discharge before he could gain actual combat experience, interviewed infantry soldiers and officers to get the "flavor" of ground combat for his book. The story traces the evolution of Juan "Johnnie" Rico from feckless civilian into an OfficerAndAGentleman during the BugWar as a FramingDevice and example. Much of the military action in the novel parallels the Pacific campaign of WorldWarII ending at Guadalcanal.

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''Starship Troopers'' is a MilitaryScienceFiction novel written by Creator/RobertAHeinlein as an argument against a unilateral U.S. ban on nuclear testing, and published in 1959. It waxes {{Anvilicious}} on the merits of soldiers being willing to give their lives for their country and the proper merits of a soldier, an officer, and an army and nation as a whole. Heinlein, a former naval officer who had received a health-related discharge before he could gain actual combat experience, interviewed infantry soldiers and officers to get the "flavor" of ground combat for his book. The story traces the evolution of Juan "Johnnie" Rico from feckless civilian into an OfficerAndAGentleman during the BugWar as a FramingDevice and example. Much of the military action in the novel parallels the Pacific campaign of WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII ending at Guadalcanal.
24th Jun '17 6:09:08 PM IdumeanPatriot
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* TheSocialDarwinist: The Federation, and Rico himself.
** Commenting on the planet Sanctuary:
--->Sanctuary is going to be fully settled, either by us or by the Bugs. Or by somebody. It is a potential utopia, and, with desirable real estate so scarce in this end of the Galaxy, it will not be left in the possession of primitive life forms that failed to make the grade.
** And commenting on the human wars of the past:
--->Without debating the usefulness or morality of planned parenthood, it may be verified by observation that any breed which stops its own increase gets crowded out by breeds which expand. Some human populations did so, in Terran history, and other breeds moved in and engulfed them.


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* UnitedSpaceOfAmerica: The Terran Federation's system of government and civic and military institutions and traditions, apart from its limited-franchise democracy, appear obviously American-derived. Also, "Standard English" is its state language.
17th Jun '17 5:47:33 PM LBHills
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* BandOfBrothers: The Mobile Infantry. Which is why NoOneGetsLeftBehind. Also, it's essential logistics in a BugWar; "Every time we killed a thousand Bugs at the cost of one M.I., it was a net victory for the Bugs."

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* BandOfBrothers: The Mobile Infantry. Which Infantry are well aware that every drop could be - probably will be - proof that WarIsHell. But staying behind while their companions risk death is why NoOneGetsLeftBehind. Also, it's essential logistics in a BugWar; "Every time we killed a thousand Bugs at the cost of one M.I., it was a net victory for the Bugs."unthinkable.
17th Jun '17 5:40:38 PM LBHills
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* WarIsHell: Used directly, and discussed: if it's hell, why endure it?
7th Jun '17 12:43:41 AM DeathToTVTropes
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''Starship Troopers'' is notable for codifying the concept of {{Powered Armor}} and being an early example of the {{Space Marine}} trope. It was also the first science fiction book to appear on the U.S. military's recommended reading lists. It is also significant, and controversial, for its description of the Terran Federation's political system. It is a limited democracy, in which only "veterans" of Federal Service are eligible to vote, run for office, hold certain jobs, or even teach some subjects at school. It should be noted that this service is ''not'' necessarily military/combat and in fact usually isn't, although you have no choice where they send you and non-military service is only mentioned in a few brief sentences and never shown. Needless to say this alone tends to provoke accusations ranging from 'jingoistic' up to 'fascist propaganda.'

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''Starship Troopers'' is notable for codifying early use of the concept of {{Powered Armor}} and being an early example of the {{Space Marine}} trope. It was also the first science fiction book to appear on the U.S. military's recommended reading lists. It is also significant, and controversial, for its description of the Terran Federation's political system. It is a limited democracy, in which only "veterans" of Federal Service are eligible to vote, run for office, hold certain jobs, or even teach some subjects at school. It should be noted that this service is ''not'' necessarily military/combat and in fact usually isn't, although you have no choice where they send you and non-military service is only mentioned in a few brief sentences and never shown. Needless to say this alone tends to provoke accusations ranging from 'jingoistic' up to 'fascist propaganda.'
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