History Literature / Spellsinger

21st Feb '16 3:19:47 PM Delphi
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** Clothahump says in the first book that only mammals and turtles talk, but talking frogs are introduced soon after.
17th Feb '16 8:09:46 PM Ingonyama
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::In the end, though, it becomes clear Jon-Tom does come to see value, hope, and goodness in this world, since he not only fights to defend it from the Plated Folk but various threats which crop up including the cosmic perambulator, and ends up forging many bonds and relationships in the Warmlands, to the point of having a wife and children and, when the opportunity comes to return to Earth, choosing to stay. So by the end of the series his view has shifted to that of AWorldHalfFull.

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::In :::In the end, though, it becomes clear Jon-Tom does come to see value, hope, and goodness in this world, since he not only fights to defend it from the Plated Folk but various threats which crop up including the cosmic perambulator, and ends up forging many bonds and relationships in the Warmlands, to the point of having a wife and children and, when the opportunity comes to return to Earth, choosing to stay. So by the end of the series his view has shifted to that of AWorldHalfFull.



** [[spoiler: though that group, was implied to be a rogue faction who still hang on to the few threads left of their evil army. No different from people today who still support the Nazi's, despite Nazi's are long forever gone]]

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** [[spoiler: though Though that group, group was implied to be a rogue faction who still hang on to the few threads left of their evil army. No different from people today who still support the Nazi's, Nazis, despite Nazi's are Nazis being long forever gone]]gone.]]



** On the other hand Talea strongly implies that, even if the spirit ([[AnythingThatMoves and flesh]]) is willing, Mudge doesn't get around [[UrbanLegendLoveLife nearly as much as he claims he does]]. This comment might seem motivated by either jealousy or a desire to insult a disgusting habit, except it is stated in the context of her warning Flor to avoid Caz because "unlike Mudge, who's a talker, this one's a doer". (I.e., if Mudge really did get around and she was just trying to insult him, surely she'd have warned Flor away from the otter too.) Though she contradicts herself in book six "that otter will screw anything that moves, and probably a few things that don't." Most likely, Talea meant that while Mudge would act crude and lecherous toward Flor, he wasn't actually interested in sex with a human while Caz was- while InterspeciesRomance occurs frequently, it's typically limited to couples who are members of the same genus or order, and it's much rarer with humans.

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** On the other hand Talea strongly implies that, even if the spirit ([[AnythingThatMoves and flesh]]) is willing, Mudge doesn't get around [[UrbanLegendLoveLife nearly as much as he claims he does]]. This comment might seem motivated by either jealousy or a desire to insult a disgusting habit, except it is stated in the context of her warning Flor to avoid Caz because "unlike Mudge, who's a talker, this one's a doer". (I.e., if Mudge really did get around and she was just trying to insult him, surely she'd have warned Flor away from the otter too.) Though she contradicts herself in book six "that otter will screw anything that moves, and probably a few things that don't." Most likely, Talea meant that while Mudge would act crude and lecherous toward Flor, he wasn't actually interested in sex with a human while Caz was- while was--while InterspeciesRomance occurs frequently, it's typically limited to couples who are members of the same genus or order, and it's much rarer with humans.



* RuleOfFunny: What generally determines the effects of Jon-Tom magic whenever he's not fighting a BigBad.

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* RuleOfFunny: What generally determines the effects of Jon-Tom Jon-Tom's magic whenever he's not fighting a BigBad.
15th Feb '16 7:31:55 AM MacronNotes
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** Flores Quintera is an even stronger example, since the chance to escape misogyny and assumptions about her intellect and goals in life, plus live out her secret fantasies, causes her to prefer the Wizard's World to home and to [[LikeAFishTakesToWater fit in immediately]]. Though it would have been nice closure to see (or just mention) her saying a final goodbye to her parents and eleven siblings who no doubt assume she's dead.

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** Flores Quintera is an even stronger example, since the chance to escape misogyny and assumptions about her intellect and goals in life, plus live out her secret fantasies, causes her to prefer the Wizard's World to home and to [[LikeAFishTakesToWater [[LikeADuckTakesToWater fit in immediately]]. Though it would have been nice closure to see (or just mention) her saying a final goodbye to her parents and eleven siblings who no doubt assume she's dead.
15th Feb '16 7:00:19 AM MacronNotes
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15th Feb '16 7:00:02 AM MacronNotes
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* LikeAFishTakesToWater: Flor assimilates much more quickly than Jon-Tom does.

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* LikeAFishTakesToWater: Flor assimilates much more quickly than LikeADuckTakesToWater:
** Although initially the combination of finding himself in a far too realistic CrapsackWorld of mostly furries and the inability of the one who summoned him to send him back home makes
Jon-Tom does.terrified and desperate to escape, once he discovers the duar and his spellsinging talents, and then finds out just what the threat Clothahump called him to stop is, he immediately knuckles under to try and help. Throughout each of the subsequent books he becomes more and more adapted to his new home, as well as developing his spellsinging talents, until by the time he finds a way home again he not only [[YourUniverseOrMine isn't sure he wants to leave]], but after visiting Earth, reassuring family and friends, and making arrangements for his continued absence [[IChooseToStay he goes right back]] with various Earth goodies (including, naturally, plenty of music).
** Flores Quintera is an even stronger example, since the chance to escape misogyny and assumptions about her intellect and goals in life, plus live out her secret fantasies, causes her to prefer the Wizard's World to home and to [[LikeAFishTakesToWater fit in immediately]]. Though it would have been nice closure to see (or just mention) her saying a final goodbye to her parents and eleven siblings who no doubt assume she's dead.



* TheUnfrozenCavemanLawyer: Although initially the combination of finding himself in a far too realistic CrapsackWorld of mostly furries and the inability of the one who summoned him to send him back home makes Jon-Tom terrified and desperate to escape, once he discovers the duar and his spellsinging talents, and then finds out just what the threat Clothahump called him to stop is, he immediately knuckles under to try and help. Throughout each of the subsequent books he becomes more and more adapted to his new home, as well as developing his spellsinging talents, until by the time he finds a way home again he not only [[YourUniverseOrMine isn't sure he wants to leave]], but after visiting Earth, reassuring family and friends, and making arrangements for his continued absence [[IChooseToStay he goes right back]] with various Earth goodies (including, naturally, plenty of music).
** Flores Quintera is an even stronger example, since the chance to escape misogyny and assumptions about her intellect and goals in life, plus live out her secret fantasies, causes her to prefer the Wizard's World to home and to [[LikeAFishTakesToWater fit in immediately]]. Though it would have been nice closure to see (or just mention) her saying a final goodbye to her parents and eleven siblings who no doubt assume she's dead.
20th Jan '16 12:26:58 AM BattleMaster
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* AmazonianBeauty: Subverted with Roseroar. Jon Tom and Mudge both tell her how attractive they think she is because she's twice the size of both of them put together and they're terrified of making her angry. Though she isn't explicitly unattractive.
20th Jan '16 12:24:23 AM BattleMaster
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** Book three has Roseroar on the cover. Only instead of the [[BrawnHilde 500 lb block of muscle]] the book describes her as, she's noticably smaller than Jon Tom (when it was mentioned that she's one of the few individuals who's taller than he is) and appears to be nothing more than a human wearing a costume from {{Theater/Cats}}- she's even got breasts and a human nose.

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** Book three has Roseroar on the cover. Only instead of the [[BrawnHilde [[BrawnHilda 500 lb block of muscle]] the book describes her as, she's noticably smaller than Jon Tom (when it was mentioned that she's one of the few individuals who's taller than he is) and appears to be nothing more than a human wearing a costume from {{Theater/Cats}}- she's even got breasts and a human nose.
20th Jan '16 12:23:07 AM BattleMaster
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* ContemptibleCover: Most of the early editions' covers seem to have nothing to do with the actual contents. Talea fares particularly badly on books one and two, and Mudge looks old and gnarled on the latter as well.

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* ContemptibleCover: Most of the early editions' covers seem to have nothing to do with the actual contents. Talea fares particularly badly on books one and two, and Mudge looks old and gnarled on the latter as well.well (and also looks like a rat instead of an otter).


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** Book three has Roseroar on the cover. Only instead of the [[BrawnHilde 500 lb block of muscle]] the book describes her as, she's noticably smaller than Jon Tom (when it was mentioned that she's one of the few individuals who's taller than he is) and appears to be nothing more than a human wearing a costume from {{Theater/Cats}}- she's even got breasts and a human nose.
11th Jan '16 8:02:37 PM jormis29
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* NukeEm: Apparently a last resort of the Plated Folk in the second book's final battle. It's actually a very clean bomb, as there is nothing described about the radiation affecting anyone. (It's suggested earlier that the Plated Folk actually stumbled on a neutron bomb plan).

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* NukeEm: Apparently a last resort of the Plated Folk in the second book's final battle. It's actually a very clean bomb, as there is nothing described about the radiation affecting anyone. (It's suggested earlier that the Plated Folk actually stumbled on a neutron bomb NeutronBomb plan).
31st Oct '15 4:50:40 PM Ingonyama
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* TheRival: Zancresta to Clothahump. It's enough to compel the former, after Clothahump's unequivocal success at predicting and thwarting the Plated Folk invasion, into traveling halfway across the world to obtain the medicine that can save the turtle...so that Clothahump will [[SadisticChoice either]] be forced to acknowledge Zancresta as the better wizard or die when the EvilSorcerer withholds the cure from him. Actually in that book it was stated that each city has a resident wizard who all strive to be better than the rest and see all others as rivals.

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* TheRival: Zancresta to Clothahump. It's enough to compel the former, after Clothahump's unequivocal success at predicting and thwarting the Plated Folk invasion, into traveling halfway across the world to obtain the medicine that can save the turtle...so that Clothahump will [[SadisticChoice either]] be forced to acknowledge Zancresta as the better wizard or die when the EvilSorcerer withholds the cure from him. Actually in that book it It was stated that each city has a resident wizard who all strive to be better than the rest and see all others as rivals.rivals, but Zancresta seems to take this a bit farther, and more personally.
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