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* KarmaHoudini: All things considered, [[spoiler: Julia]] got away easy.
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** ''Ymir'' is a nuclear spaceship buried into an enormous chunk of frozen ice and propels itself by melting that ice and converting it into fuel
** ''Endurance'' is similar in concept, but doesn't have a nuclear reactor, instead containing the entire (and hugely expanded) ISS and an asteroid.
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** ''Ymir'' is a nuclear spaceship buried into an enormous chunk of frozen ice comet (so, literally cool) and propels itself by melting that using a multi-gigawatt nuclear reactor to turn the cometary ice and converting it into fuel
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** ''Endurance'' issimilar in concept, but doesn't have a nuclear reactor, instead containing made up from the ice remaining from ''Ymir'' after it is brought into Earth orbit, the entire (and hugely expanded) ISS ISS, and an asteroid.asteroid. It doesn't have as big a nuclear reactor, (or nearly as much ice to work with) so it uses the much more efficient method of turning the remaining ice into hydrogen and oxygen to use as rocket fuel.
** ''Endurance'' is
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* EvolutionaryStasis: Averted. Five thousand years in the future, [[spoilers:humans have evolved to live underwater, underground and on the moon and are drastically different from contemporary humanity.]]
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* EvolutionaryStasis: Averted. Five thousand years in the future, [[spoilers:humans [[spoiler:humans have evolved to live underwater, underground and on the moon and are drastically different from contemporary humanity.]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Two factions, one of which is denoted as "The Red" are locked in a [[ColdWar cold]] conflict, using propaganda, proxy warfare and constantly trying to provoke each-other.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Two factions, one of which is denoted as "The Red" are locked in a [[ColdWar [[SpaceColdWar cold]] conflict, using propaganda, proxy warfare and constantly trying to provoke each-other.
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* EvolutionaryStasis: Averted. Five thousand years in the future, [[spoilers:humans have evolved to live underwater, underground and on the moon and are drastically different from contemporary humanity.]]
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Languages: Presumably Aida speaks Italian, Ivy may speak Chinese, Cam may also speak some non-English language (Urdu?)
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** Potentially justified in that the Epic is almost entirely in English, is extremely well documented, and is central to Spacer culture. It is highly likely that English would become the lingua franca as there is no diversity of language among [[spoiler: the final eight survivors]] with the exception of Russian, which is only spoken by Tekla.
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** Potentially justified in that the Epic is almost entirely in English, is extremely well documented, and is central to Spacer culture. It is highly likely that English would become the lingua franca as there is no diversity of other language among spoken by more than one of [[spoiler: the final eight survivors]] with the exception of Russian, survivors]], apart from possibly Russian which is only spoken by Tekla.Tekla's native language and which Ivy and Dinah would have had to learn as astronauts.
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: The Seven have a moment that makes all of them stop everything they're doing in silent awe -- finding a piece of a radiator hose from before the Hard Rain.
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* ThatManIsDead: Moirans refer to their previous selves as having died when they go epi. Kath Two's narration says "Kath One died at 13," and [[spoiler:after she goes epi again, someone addresses her as Kath Two and she simply states Kath Two is dead.]]
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** DramaticIrony: If the reader remembers the earlier parts of the book, they'll have figured out that [[spoiler:Rufus' compound survived to the far future]] long before any of the viewpoint characters do.
** Tragic Irony: That, in the far future, [[spoiler:the Diggers]] are immediately hostile to Blue and make an alliance with Red, when [[spoiler:they're related to the Dinans]].
** DramaticIrony: If the reader remembers the earlier parts of the book, they'll have figured out that [[spoiler:Rufus' compound survived to the far future]] long before any of the viewpoint characters do.
** Tragic Irony: That, in the far future, [[spoiler:the Diggers]] are immediately hostile to Blue and make an alliance with Red, when [[spoiler:they're related to the Dinans]].
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** After the moon inexplicably explodes, Dubois Harris and others figure out that they have around two years before the debris starts raining from the sky and ends all life on the planet. This causes a world-wide scramble to put everything possible into the Cloud Ark.
** At the Council of Seven Eves, Dinah gets fed up with the arguing, goes outside, and then slaps an explosive on the window with a 10-minute countdown. Ivy notes that, apparently, Dinah has decided if the women can't resolve their differences and figure out how to move forward in that time, the human race doesn't deserve the chance. They come to a decision in less than three minutes.
** After the moon inexplicably explodes, Dubois Harris and others figure out that they have around two years before the debris starts raining from the sky and ends all life on the planet. This causes a world-wide scramble to put everything possible into the Cloud Ark.
** At the Council of Seven Eves, Dinah gets fed up with the arguing, goes outside, and then slaps an explosive on the window with a 10-minute countdown. Ivy notes that, apparently, Dinah has decided if the women can't resolve their differences and figure out how to move forward in that time, the human race doesn't deserve the chance. They come to a decision in less than three minutes.
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* FamedInStory: Everyone from the first two parts of the book are heroes of "The Epic," in the final part, The Epic serving as half-documentary, half-Bible for the Spacer civilization.
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: The people of Earth, when faced with the coming apocalypse, pour their efforts into flinging a light into the future and, when the time comes, congregate to listen to quiet masses and orchestral hymns.
* FlingALightIntoTheFuture: The purpose of the Cloud Ark and the Human Genetic Archive. Knowing that only a minuscule fraction of the human race can survive the Hard Rain, people collect priceless artifacts, embryos and digitized genetic code to help ensure a future for humanity.
* WatchTheWorldDie: From the relative safety of the Swarm and the ISS, the main characters watch the world burn and seven billion people die.
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* LostTechnology: The Spacers' mastery of chip-building and wireless technology is inferior to modern-day Humanity's. This is partly because computer chips built with smaller transistors are more susceptible to being destroyed by cosmic rays, and partly because the Spacers view modern-day Humanity's volume of exposure to media and social media as "Tev's Mistake," blaming it, in part, for [[spoiler:the tensions that caused the Break between the Swarm and the Endurance]]. On the other hand, they are further along in robotics and virtual reality technology.
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* LostTechnology: The Spacers' mastery of chip-building and wireless technology is inferior to modern-day Humanity's. This is partly because computer chips built with smaller transistors are more susceptible to being destroyed by cosmic rays, and partly because the Spacers view modern-day Humanity's volume of exposure to media and social media as "Tev's "Tav's Mistake," blaming it, in part, for [[spoiler:the tensions that caused the Break between the Swarm and the Endurance]]. On the other hand, they are further along in robotics and virtual reality technology.
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* AbnormalAmmo: The Spacers of 5,000 years in the future do not use guns. An {{infodump}} early on in that section tells us that, seeking a projectile weapon that could incapacitate humans without damaging the fragile infrastructure those humans need to survive, they settled on weapons that fire small, programmed robots at a target that can optionally kill, stun or otherwise inconvenience who or whatever you shoot with it or, if they miss, decelerate before they puncture the wall of a space habitat. Conveniently, they're also programmed to return to the side that fired them.
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* ChekhovsGun: When Ivy and Dinah first rescue Julia, Dinah notes that Pete Starling was wearing an empty shoulder holster. Later on, [[spoiler:Julia ends up firing the gun from said holster at Tekla, injuring her, and Aida's group uses it to kill one of the survivors when they invade Izzy]].
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* BreadAndCircuses: Several characters realize that the Cloud Ark is being treated by some as a panacea, meant not to actually succeed, but to placate the masses on Earth with the idea that their legacies will live on. Said characters then do everything in their power to ''make'' it work.
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* CozyCatastrophe: Before the Hard Rain destroys everything, anyway. The narration notes that there is, in fact, very little of the hysteria, panicking and looting one might expect from the announcement that the world's about to end. With the exception of a few outliers, seven billion humans meet their end with considerable dignity.
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* SophisticatedAsHell: The narration, and the characters, will switch frequently between scientific speak and plain English. Such as one long description of the mass-to-fuel ratio necessary to make any trip in space, concluding with the declaration that, if one finds themselves on the bad side of that ratio, they are "completely screwed." Or, in discussing [[spoiler:the loss of the Human Genetic Archive]], Markus cuts off an explanation by Moira about how they have enough fertile humans by summing up that they'll be just fine simply by fucking each other.
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* RuleThirtyFour: InUniverse, it's mentioned that the dramatic rescue of Tekla, followed by her nearly throttling Sean Probst when he shows up on the ISS, makes her a celebrity down on Earth and a lot of porn is created about her, much of it involving her and Probst in a Dom/Sub relationship.
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** The Spacers don't really have a concept of God, but a form of nontheistic spirituality called ''dukh'' is practiced.
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** Not so much "outgrown" as "beaten out of them." The narration dryly notes that humanity being whittled down to eight surviving women more or less killed the idea that God was running things. As a result, the Spacers don't really have a concept of God, but a form of nontheistic spirituality called ''dukh'' is practiced.
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* LostTechnology: The Spacers' mastery of chip-building and wireless technology is inferior to modern-day Humanity's.
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** On the other hand, they seem to be further along in robotics and virtual reality technology.
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* LostTechnology: The Spacers' mastery of chip-building and wireless technology is inferior to modern-day Humanity's.
** Considering thatHumanity's. This is partly because computer chips built with smaller transistors are more susceptible to being destroyed by cosmic rays, this might be and partly because the Spacers view modern-day Humanity's volume of exposure to media and social media as "Tev's Mistake," blaming it, in part, for [[spoiler:the tensions that caused the better.
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* NewMediaIsEvil: the harm to the Swarm caused by Spacebook is enough to make social media taboo among the spacers.
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** Popular African-American celebrity scientist Doc Dubois is Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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** Ex-presisent of the USA Julia Bliss Flaherty has striking similarities with Hillary Clinton (wife of an ex-President that, in that world at least, herself became president) but has some notable differences too (she initially was a vice-president and came to power when her president was impeached after a scandal, and she is younger by several decades).
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** Ex-presisent of the USA Julia Bliss Flaherty has striking similarities with Hillary Clinton (wife of an ex-President that, in that world at least, herself became president) but has some notable differences too (she initially was a vice-president and came Sarah Palin (child with Down Syndrome, young Vice President to power when her president was impeached after a scandal, and she is younger by several decades).older Candidate).
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** Tech blogger and singularity theorist Tavistock Prowse is Cory Doctorow
** Ex-presisent of the USA Julia Bliss Flaherty has striking similarities with Hillary Clinton (wife of an ex-President that, in that world at least, herself became president) but has some notable differences too (she initially was a vice-president and came to power when her president was impeached after a scandal, and she is younger by several decades).
** Ex-presisent of the USA Julia Bliss Flaherty has striking similarities with Hillary Clinton (wife of an ex-President that, in that world at least, herself became president) but has some notable differences too (she initially was a vice-president and came to power when her president was impeached after a scandal, and she is younger by several decades).
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** Also justified for the Diggers since their primary source of recorded information is a complete copy of the Encyclopedia Britannica, in English.
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