History Literature / Ringworld

19th Jun '17 11:29:06 AM LordQwert
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* ConvergingStreamWeapon: The upgraded Slaver Disintegrator. Normal Disintegrators produce a beam that suppresses the charge of the electron on solid material it hits, causing it to have a uniform positive charge and, due to the resulting unopposed repulsive forces between protons, violently tear itself apart into subatomic dust. The upgraded version also fires a beam that suppresses the charge of the ''proton'' and lands a short distance away from the first. Besides more disintegration, this also creates a ''massive'' electrical current between the two charged areas.

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* ConvergingStreamWeapon: The upgraded Slaver Disintegrator. Normal Disintegrators produce a beam that suppresses the charge of the electron on solid material it hits, causing it to have a uniform positive charge and, due to the resulting unopposed repulsive forces between protons, nuclei, violently tear itself apart into subatomic atomic dust. The upgraded version also fires a beam that suppresses the charge of the ''proton'' and lands a short distance away from the first. Besides more disintegration, this also creates a ''massive'' electrical current electromagnetic implosion between the two charged areas.
3rd Apr '17 7:05:13 PM Theriocephalus
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* AncientConspiracy: It's revealed in the first novel that the Puppeteers secretly [[spoiler:interfered in the Man-Kzin wars to try and breed docile Kzinti]] and also secretly [[spoiler:lobbied for the Birthright Lottery to breed someone like Teela Brown]]. In the second novel, we also learn that the Puppeteers secretly [[spoiler:engineered the Ringworld's superconductor plague so that they could investigate the Ringworld safely]].
** [[spoiler: The superconductor plague was a LOT worse than that. They engineered it so they could arrive in the nick of time and save everything, making a LOT of money and getting a LOT of power in the process. Then politics happened between sowing the plague and fixing it, and the fixing never happened.]]

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* AncientConspiracy: It's revealed in the first novel that the Puppeteers secretly [[spoiler:interfered in the Man-Kzin wars to try and breed docile Kzinti]] and also secretly [[spoiler:lobbied for the Birthright Lottery to breed someone like Teela Brown]]. In the second novel, we also learn that the Puppeteers secretly [[spoiler:engineered the Ringworld's superconductor plague so that they could investigate the Ringworld safely]].
** [[spoiler: The superconductor plague was a LOT worse than that. They engineered it
safely and so that they could arrive in the nick of time and save everything, making a LOT of money and getting a LOT of power in the process. Then politics happened between sowing the plague and fixing it, and the fixing never happened.]]



** A comment repeated is that the Ringworld isn't so big as to be incomprehensible - it's just barely small enough that the mind can understand ''how mind-bogglingly big'' it actually is.

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** A comment repeated is that the Ringworld isn't so big as to be incomprehensible - -- it's just barely small enough that the mind can understand ''how mind-bogglingly big'' it actually is.



* BizarreSexualDimorphism: Kzinti females are non-sentient. Also, it's suggested at one point that puppeteer females must mate with [[ThreeWaySex two males]] in order to conceive.
** In the second book, The Hindmost (who is mated to Nessus) explains Puppeteer reproduction in more detail. The "female" Puppeteer is actually a different species, which acts as a host for the embryo formed by the gametes placed into it by the Puppeteers. The organs used to deposit gametes are described as being "most similar". Louis then understands why Nessus didn't want to talk about it: "This is ugly."
*** The comparison is to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichneumonoidea Ichneumonoid wasps]]

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* BizarreSexualDimorphism: BizarreSexualDimorphism:
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Kzinti females are non-sentient. Also, it's non-sentient, although [[spoiler:it's all but stated that this is due to deliberate genetic engineering by the Kzinti males so long ago that they themselves have forgotten about it. This is supported by the fact that the Kzinti females on the Map of Kzin, descendants of Kzinti abducted in prehistoric times, are fully sentient beings]].
** It's
suggested at one point in the first book that puppeteer females must mate with [[ThreeWaySex two males]] males]], one of each of the two "male types" the puppeteers have, in order to conceive.
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conceive. In the second book, The second, the Hindmost (who is mated to Nessus) explains Puppeteer reproduction in more detail. The "female" Puppeteer is actually a different species, which acts as a host for the embryo formed by the gametes placed into it by the Puppeteers.Puppeteers, whose two "male types" are their actual "male" and "female" genders. The organs used to deposit gametes are described as being "most similar". They're explicitly compared is to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichneumonoidea Ichneumonoid wasps]]. Louis then understands why Nessus didn't want to talk about it: "This is ugly."
*** The comparison is to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichneumonoidea Ichneumonoid wasps]]
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** On the other hand, she might not have been born lucky after all, and just looked that way for the benefit of people who were. (Trying to follow cause and effect in a universe with people whose mere existence is supposed to cause the entire universe to automatically conspire in their favor is a serious MindScrew.)
*** Louis Wu actually discusses this at one stage, making the obvious suggestion that it may simply not have worked at all. Later on, it turns into BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor as Teela morphs into a Protector, at which point it becomes obvious that what actually constitutes "luck" is so subjective as to be meaningless

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** On the other hand, It's brought up at one point she might not have been born lucky after all, and just looked that way for the benefit of people who were. (Trying to follow cause and effect in a universe with people whose mere existence is supposed to cause the entire universe to automatically conspire in their favor is a serious MindScrew.)
*** ** Louis Wu actually discusses this at one stage, making the obvious suggestion that it may simply not have worked at all. Later on, it turns into BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor as Teela morphs into a Protector, at which point it becomes obvious that what actually constitutes "luck" is so subjective as to be meaningless



* ConvergingStreamWeapon: The upgraded Slaver Disintegrator.

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* ConvergingStreamWeapon: The upgraded Slaver Disintegrator. Normal Disintegrators produce a beam that suppresses the charge of the electron on solid material it hits, causing it to have a uniform positive charge and, due to the resulting unopposed repulsive forces between protons, violently tear itself apart into subatomic dust. The upgraded version also fires a beam that suppresses the charge of the ''proton'' and lands a short distance away from the first. Besides more disintegration, this also creates a ''massive'' electrical current between the two charged areas.
30th Mar '17 11:52:31 PM PaulA
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* OffToSeeTheWizard: After finishing the first book, Larry Niven realized that its plot and characters mirrored those of TheWizardOfOz. (Louis Wu is Dorothy, Nessus is the Cowardly Lion, Speaker-To-Animals is the Scarecrow, Teela Brown is the Tin Man, and Halrloprillalar is the Wizard.)

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* OffToSeeTheWizard: After finishing the first book, Larry Niven realized that its plot and characters mirrored those of TheWizardOfOz.''Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz''. (Louis Wu is Dorothy, Nessus is the Cowardly Lion, Speaker-To-Animals is the Scarecrow, Teela Brown is the Tin Man, and Halrloprillalar is the Wizard.)
2nd Jan '17 5:11:55 PM livestockgeorge
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* DarkerAndEdgier: The second novel to the first, in a ''major'' way. The Ringworld Engineers opens with Louis Wu a barely FunctionalAddict hooked on a [[ElectricInstantGratification direct current]] into his brain, and only a few chapters in we learn that it's because [[Spoiler: Halrloprillalar was kidnapped by ARM and held prisoner, and he hasn't seen her since.]] In the same chapter, Louis is informed that [[spoiler: she's dead of a drug interaction.]] A few chapters later, we find out that the Ringworld is destabilizing and is going to destroy itself against the sun within two years time. He ends up [[spoiler: saving the Ringworld at the cost of trillions of lives (only a fraction of the inhabitants, but ''still'',]] and having to kill [[spoiler: Teela, who had become a Protector.]] Compared to the first book, with a comparatively happy ending where none of the main characters die, it's jarring, to say the least.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: The second novel to the first, in a ''major'' way. The Ringworld Engineers opens with Louis Wu a barely FunctionalAddict hooked on a [[ElectricInstantGratification direct current]] into his brain, and only a few chapters in we learn that it's because [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Halrloprillalar was kidnapped by ARM and held prisoner, and he hasn't seen her since.]] In the same chapter, Louis is informed that [[spoiler: she's dead of a drug interaction.]] A few chapters later, we find out that the Ringworld is destabilizing and is going to destroy itself against the sun within two years time. He ends up [[spoiler: saving the Ringworld at the cost of trillions of lives (only a fraction of the inhabitants, but ''still'',]] and having to kill [[spoiler: Teela, who had become a Protector.]] Compared to the first book, with a comparatively happy ending where none of the main characters die, it's jarring, to say the least.
2nd Jan '17 5:11:23 PM livestockgeorge
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* DroppedABridgeOnHim: Halrloprillalar [[spoiler: dies between the first and second books]].

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* DarkerAndEdgier: The second novel to the first, in a ''major'' way. The Ringworld Engineers opens with Louis Wu a barely FunctionalAddict hooked on a [[ElectricInstantGratification direct current]] into his brain, and only a few chapters in we learn that it's because [[Spoiler: Halrloprillalar was kidnapped by ARM and held prisoner, and he hasn't seen her since.]] In the same chapter, Louis is informed that [[spoiler: she's dead of a drug interaction.]] A few chapters later, we find out that the Ringworld is destabilizing and is going to destroy itself against the sun within two years time. He ends up [[spoiler: saving the Ringworld at the cost of trillions of lives (only a fraction of the inhabitants, but ''still'',]] and having to kill [[spoiler: Teela, who had become a Protector.]] Compared to the first book, with a comparatively happy ending where none of the main characters die, it's jarring, to say the least.
* DroppedABridgeOnHim: Halrloprillalar [[spoiler: dies between the first and second books]].books, due to the interaction of incompatible drugs]].
2nd Dec '16 7:11:17 AM Theriocephalus
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** Nessus isn't just considered insane. He ''is''. He is bipolar, swinging back and forth between "normal" puppeteer cowardice, and periods of berserker-like bravery.

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** Nessus isn't just considered insane. He ''is''. He is bipolar, swinging back and forth between "normal" puppeteer cowardice, cowardice and periods of berserker-like bravery.



* FamousFamousFictional: Louis' opinion of [[ArousedByTheirVoice Nessus' voice]] -- "Had Louis visualized a woman to go with that voice, she would have been Cleopatra, Helen of Troy, Marilyn Monroe and Lorelei Huntz rolled into one."

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* FamousFamousFictional: FamousFamousFictional:
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Louis' opinion of [[ArousedByTheirVoice Nessus' voice]] -- "Had Louis visualized a woman to go with that voice, she would have been Cleopatra, Helen of Troy, Marilyn Monroe and Lorelei Huntz rolled into one."



* FloatingContinent: Ranging in size from buildings to cities, these were very common on the Ringworld. It's mentioned most species could build these just as easily as the City Builders could, but choose not to for a number of reasons.

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* FloatingContinent: Ranging in size from buildings to cities, these were very common on the Ringworld. Ringworld before the Fall of the Cities. It's mentioned most advanced species could build these just as easily as the City Builders could, but choose not to for a number of reasons.reasons (the humans and Puppeteers find them too unsafe, and the Kzinti dislike heights).



* MetalPoorPlanet: As an artificial world, there are no mineral ores: if you dig into a mountain, you'll hit the [[{{Unobtanium}} scrith]] underlying the sculpted landscape after a few hundred meters.

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* MetalPoorPlanet: As an artificial world, there are no mineral ores: if you dig into a mountain, you'll hit the [[{{Unobtanium}} scrith]] underlying the sculpted landscape after a few hundred meters. As a result, if civilization on the ring collapses it will remain stuck at the stone age.



** Shadow square wire
** Sinclair molecule chain
** Variable swords

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** Shadow square wire
wire.
** Sinclair molecule chain
chain.
** Variable swordsswords.
23rd Sep '16 11:26:37 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* PutOnABus: In ''Ringworld's Children'', the Hindmost only briefly mentions that Harkabeeparolyn and Kawaresksenjajok were returned to their hometown floating city, and they otherwise don't appear in the book at all. In a surprising case of TheyJustDidntCare, Niven gets Harkabeeparolyn's name wrong and calls her Fortaralisplyar, who was a different ''male'' character from the same floating city in ''The Ringworld Engineers''.

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* PutOnABus: In ''Ringworld's Children'', the Hindmost only briefly mentions that Harkabeeparolyn and Kawaresksenjajok were returned to their hometown floating city, and they otherwise don't appear in the book at all. In a surprising case of TheyJustDidntCare, case, Niven gets Harkabeeparolyn's name wrong and calls her Fortaralisplyar, who was a different ''male'' character from the same floating city in ''The Ringworld Engineers''.
12th Sep '16 11:00:02 AM Morgenthaler
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'''Chiron:''' [[ShapedLikeItself It is a star with a ring around it.]] A ring of solid matter. An artifact.

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'''Chiron:''' [[ShapedLikeItself It is a star with a ring around it.]] it. A ring of solid matter. An artifact.
8th May '16 11:35:38 PM Theriocephalus
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* OurVampiresAreDifferent: They are non-sentient, for starters. They also attract their prey with pheromones and are technically a number of different hominid species that evolved convergently into the same niche.
** Or at least they are [[spoiler: until transformation into a Protector.]]

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* OurVampiresAreDifferent: They are non-sentient, for starters. [[spoiler: at least until transformation into a Protector]]. They also attract their prey with pheromones and are technically a number of different hominid species that evolved convergently into the same niche.
** Or at least they are [[spoiler: until transformation into a Protector.]]
niche.
8th May '16 11:33:09 PM Theriocephalus
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* AuthorAppeal: Rishathra, which is cross-species mating used for the purposes of diplomacy on the Ring. Niven reportedly wore a shirt to conventions that says "I have sex outside my species"[[note]]He wrote that if wearing a badge with the same slogan, you really have to remember to take it off outside SF conventions, or people draw funny conclusions.[[/note]]

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* AuthorAppeal: Rishathra, which is cross-species mating used for the purposes of diplomacy on the Ring. Niven reportedly wore a shirt to conventions that says "I have sex outside my species"[[note]]He wrote that if wearing a badge with the same slogan, you really have to remember to take it off outside SF conventions, or people draw funny conclusions.[[/note]]conclusions[[/note]].



** In the second book, The Hindmost (who is mated to Nessus) explains Puppeteer reproduction in more detail. The 'female' Puppeteer is actually a different species, which acts as a host for the embryo formed by the gametes placed into it by the Puppeteers. The organs used to deposit gametes are described as being "most similar". Louis then understands why Nessus didn't want to talk about it: "This is ugly."

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** In the second book, The Hindmost (who is mated to Nessus) explains Puppeteer reproduction in more detail. The 'female' "female" Puppeteer is actually a different species, which acts as a host for the embryo formed by the gametes placed into it by the Puppeteers. The organs used to deposit gametes are described as being "most similar". Louis then understands why Nessus didn't want to talk about it: "This is ugly."



* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Dropped A Bridge On Her]]: Halrloprillalar.

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* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Dropped A Bridge On Her]]: Halrloprillalar.DroppedABridgeOnHim: Halrloprillalar [[spoiler: dies between the first and second books]].



* FloatingContinent: from buildings to cities.

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* FloatingContinent: Ranging in size from buildings to cities.cities, these were very common on the Ringworld. It's mentioned most species could build these just as easily as the City Builders could, but choose not to for a number of reasons.



* FreeLoveFuture

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* FreeLoveFutureFreeLoveFuture: In a sense. Inter-species sex, called rishathra, is the standard way to seal deals between parties of different species.



* OurVampiresAreDifferent: They are non-sentient, for starters.

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* OurGhoulsAreCreepier: They are a carrion-eating species of Ringworld hominid who are the Ring's garbage collectors, long-range communicators, information brokers and undertakers. Yes, they eat the dead. No, the other races don't object: that's their job.
* OurGiantsAreBigger: The Grass Giants are a very large, herbivorous race of Ringworld hominids evolved to fill the ecological role large grazers normally hold. Though large, they do engage in rishathra (sex with other hominids outside their species), so they're presumably not that much larger than normal.
* OurVampiresAreDifferent: They are non-sentient, for starters. They also attract their prey with pheromones and are technically a number of different hominid species that evolved convergently into the same niche.



* SpoilerOpening: The current edition of ''The Ringworld Engineers'' has a cover painting by Donato Giancola depicting a Protector, which spoils a major plot point of the book.

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* SpoilerOpening: The current edition of ''The Ringworld Engineers'' has a cover painting by Donato Giancola depicting [[spoiler: a Protector, Protector]], which spoils a major plot point of the book.
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