History Literature / Reds

6th Apr '17 3:17:55 AM TheRedStarRising
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** [[spoiler: Henry Ford, after fleeing to the US, joins up Hitler and becomes an armament minister. His arrogance and belief in Nazi superiority leads him to put his marque on everything he's built, including weapons he built including slave labor. When Germany is defeated,
[[ImplausibleDeniability he is unable to deny his highly visible role in Nazi atrocities]], as gets about much mercy as you would expect at the hands of the UASR]].

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** [[spoiler: Henry Ford, after fleeing to the US, joins up Hitler and becomes an armament minister. His arrogance and belief in Nazi superiority leads him to put his marque on everything he's built, including weapons he built including slave labor. When Germany is defeated,
defeated [[ImplausibleDeniability he is unable to deny his highly visible role in Nazi atrocities]], as gets about much mercy as you would expect at the hands of the UASR]].
6th Apr '17 3:16:37 AM TheRedStarRising
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* BetterToDieThanBeKilled: The Green Guard's most fanatical units decide that rather than face the justice of war crime trials in the days following Brazil's official surrender to the United nations and the restoration of the Empire they may as well die on their feet. This results in Salgado's most die hard fanatics to gather for one last charge, announcing their intention to attack the troops that were meant to accept their surrender with a final broadcast of "Death before Dishonor" and being killed to a man after a spectacular but unwinnable fight. It would almost be poetic if they weren't a StateSec fond of terror tactics, war crimes, and raping female POWs.



* HeelFaceTurn: After their defeat in world war two, the Axis countries in South America switch sides to join the Allies and Comintern against Germany, Italy, and Japan.



** [[spoiler: Henry Ford, after fleeing to the US, joins up Hitler and becomes an armament minister. His arrogance and belief in Nazi superiority leads him to put his marque on everything he's built, including weapons he built including slave labor. When Germany is defeated, [[ImplausibleDeniability he is unable to deny his highly visible role in Nazi atrocities]], as gets about much mercy as you would expect at the hands of the UASR]].

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** [[spoiler: Henry Ford, after fleeing to the US, joins up Hitler and becomes an armament minister. His arrogance and belief in Nazi superiority leads him to put his marque on everything he's built, including weapons he built including slave labor. When Germany is defeated, defeated,
[[ImplausibleDeniability he is unable to deny his highly visible role in Nazi atrocities]], as gets about much mercy as you would expect at the hands of the UASR]]. UASR]].
** In a ShoutOut to Red Alert 1's Soviet ending, Salgado meets his end not at the hands of Partisans but his own trusted (and much abused) female Aide. The Aide takes part in a plot to launch a coup to restore the Brazilian Monarchy and end the Integralist's war effort by poisoning his tea as he prepares to make a speech at a news reel. As he lays choking and dying from the poison, she angrily lets out her frustrations against him and shoots him three times before being shot herself by another coup agent to close off all loose ends.



* TakeAThirdOption: The Vatican opposes the new regime as godless, and orders the Catholic priests in America to either disavow the UASR or be excommunicated. Some Catholics instead form their own church.

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* StateSec: The Green Guard of Brazil is a terrifyingly insane one. Described as green uniformed soldiers who wear metal cuiraisses at the very least as well as dehumanizing face concealing masks (which are often gas masks), the Green Guard is a borderline militarized cult of Brazil, Integralist, the Green Guard's leaders, and Salgado and is noted to be Ultracatholic. They speak their own internal constructed language to prevent outsiders from determining what they're saying and not only don't hesitate to commit atrocities but seem to revel in them. Though at first starting out as a loose cannon political elite, they do become an actual military elite known for fearlessness and skill in battle. Somewhat subverted though, as the war turns against Brazil and the green guard's ranks are continually expanded, the Guard is increasingly filled with scared and frightened children abused into committing atrocities as part of the Guard's hazing rituals and their skills slip back into cannon fodder levels while their habit of war crimes starts to backfire. Fights always become one to the death as people recognize the futility of surrendering to them, and they've committed perfidy far too many times for people to feel like risking death in case they try to pull an ISurrenderSuckers and the Guard by the end of the war is a decrepit shell. Huge swathes of the guard desert when a fake intelligence leak is given that claims the Comintern will kill any Green Guardsman who doesn't desert or renounce the Integralist regime, and its last die hards gather for a final suicide attack against Communist forces in Uruguay so that they can die on the battlefield rather than face war crime trials.
* TakeAThirdOption: The Vatican opposes the new regime as godless, and orders the Catholic priests in America to either disavow the UASR or be excommunicated. Some Catholics instead form their own church.
* TheEmpire: Quite a few in fact. The Franco-British Commonwealth is also known as the Franco-British Empire in less polite circles and is quite simply the largest formal empire to ever exist in human history by every metric besides percentage of the human population living inside of it; combining the British and the French Empires at their peak size. In the sense of Empires of being states with an Emperor as the head of state, Japan's two and a half thousand year old monarchy has been dismantled following the end of World War Two, while the Brazilian and German Emperors have both returned to lead Brazil and West Germany, subverted in that the Brazilian and West German Empires are much more pleasant than the republics that preceded them.
* TheRightfulKingReturns: The return of the Brazilian Emperors to Brazil is a surprisingly straight example of this as Dom Pedro Henrique's entrance to Brazil is used to finish off the Integralist regime by providing a figurehead for the country to rally around in the face of the Brazilian republican right wing having faced disgrace and defeat under Salgado's insanity. By all accounts, Brazil is a prosperous and burgeoning country significantly more successful than its OTL counterpart and is generally either considered a superpower or a country on the verge of becoming one. The FBU re-installing the Hohenzollern Kaiser to Germany as well as the assorted lesser German nobility and royalty is portrayed as this in the Capitalist sphere, but the German Monarchy is a significantly more contentious institution than Brazil's.
10th Feb '17 8:39:54 AM Gosicrystal
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*** ''Liberty/Liberté'';: the predominant right-wing opposition in the FBU, it does not style itself as a political party [[Main/NoExceptYes in spite of electing representatives to local and national government]]. It's mostly composed of [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic an armed paramilitary wing]] and [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Venture Capitalists]], Liberty styles itself as an ideologically liberal organization but is willing to support authoritarian measures to battle communism.

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*** ''Liberty/Liberté'';: the predominant right-wing opposition in the FBU, it does not style itself as a political party [[Main/NoExceptYes [[DistinctionWithoutADifference in spite of electing representatives to local and national government]]. It's mostly composed of [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic an armed paramilitary wing]] and [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Venture Capitalists]], Liberty styles itself as an ideologically liberal organization but is willing to support authoritarian measures to battle communism.
20th Jan '17 8:09:31 AM YosAgni
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* SpaceFillingEmpire: Based on the in-universe AH.com discussion [[spoiler:most of the Comintern sphere has been reorganized into superstates.The capitalist European Continental Federation's member states are nominally independent, [[{{NotSoDifferent}} but in practice are mere appendages of London and Paris.]]]]
26th Dec '16 3:24:42 PM tuxer
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** In the Republic of Palestine, the nation is dominated by the Democratic Liberation Front (DLF), which is a coalition of six parties that are [[WeAREStrugglingTogether largely similar except for minor points]], with the only legal opposition being the Palestine Communist Party which believes that the DLF is [[NoTrueScotsman not radical enough]] and moderate parties like the Islamic Democrats and General Zionists. You can see the greater detail of the parties [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/list-political-parties-of-alternate-countries.249963/page-2#post-6539681 here]]
28th Aug '16 3:32:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* ChineseWithChopperSupport / TheOtherChineseArmy : The Republic of China is in the Comintern side thanks to Reed's negotiations,so the name National Revolutionary Army is still used.



* GaulsWithGrenades: France makes up an important, if less talked about part of the capitalist bloc in its union with the United Kingdom. Notably, in this timeline, when the Nazis push west; they mostly only overrun France because they're moving in support of far-right coup in what amounts to a brief French Civil War.



* KatanasOfTheRisingSun: While not nearly as focused on as their German allies, Imperial Japan still constitutes a major threat to the Allies and Comintern in world war two, and still prosecutes a *brutal* war against China.



* RedsWithRockets : Still bore the brunt of the fighting in the Eastern Front.
26th Aug '16 10:48:07 PM YosAgni
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* ChineseWithChopperSupport / TheOtherChineseArmy : The Republic of China is in the Comintern side thanks to Reed's negotiations,so the name National Revolutionary Army is still used.



** Not to mention Cuba becoming the seat of the capitalist US government in exile

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** Not to mention Cuba becoming the seat of the capitalist US government in exileexile.
** Or Wang Jingwei leading the United Front against Japan while Chiang Kai-Shek turned a Japanese puppet.


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* RedsWithRockets : Still bore the brunt of the fighting in the Eastern Front.
24th Aug '16 11:19:05 AM tuxer
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*** ''People's Alliance/Alliance Populaire'': the party of perpetual government in the post-WW2 era, formed in 1949 from the ad hoc alliance between the British Conservative Party and the French Rally of Popular Republicans. The People's Alliance has constructed the economy along corporatist lines, establishing pro-business "patriotic unions" and doling out patronage through a sophisticated system of state capitalism to ensure social stability. On social stability, they've hold back women, minority and LGBT movements and only making reforms opportunistically.

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*** ''People's Alliance/Alliance Populaire'': the party of perpetual government in the post-WW2 era, formed in 1949 from the ad hoc alliance between the British Conservative Party and the French Rally of Popular Republicans. The People's Alliance has constructed the economy along corporatist lines, establishing pro-business "patriotic unions" and doling out patronage through a sophisticated system of state capitalism to ensure social stability. On social stability, issues, they've hold back women, minority and LGBT movements and only making reforms opportunistically.
24th Aug '16 11:17:46 AM tuxer
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: Played with; as the TL develops, new political parties form, but usually out of existing political parties. And the parties that have the same name tend to have diverged in radically different ways to become InNameOnly versions of their OTL counterparts. ** In the present day, the American major parties, from the political right to left, are:
*** True Democrats: the designated traitor party. The drain trap that catches everything that won't accomodate to the revolution, becoming the mirror image of Western communist parties in our world.
*** The Democratic-Republican Party: The resident mainstream right-wing party, although mostly center-left in Real Life. It's a catchall for the progressive political center- they approach socialism from a mutualist [[note]]an anarchist school of thought which advocates a market-based alternative to capitalism based around workers' associations (cooperatives)[[/note]] perspective. They favor markets and limited property relations. UsefulNotes/RonPaul serves Secretary-General (chief of staff and second-in-command). Think a communist American version of IRL libertarians.
*** Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party: the former left-wing of the Democratic Party, they approach socialism from a christian perspective, and are largely left-wing nationalists.
*** Communist Labor Party: the former center and right-wing of the Workers' Party, they place a greater emphasis on Marxism, support a more statist economy and are largely centrist on social issues.
*** Liberation Party: the left-wing splinter from the Workers' Party, founded as [[Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Liberation Communist Party]]. They're Left Communists [[note]]a term refering to communist that hold views to the left of Bolsheviks, usually of an anarcho-communist and internationalist position[[/note]] who want to push foward the world revolution and have a strong libertine streak.
*** Social Ecological Union: Greens, with libertarian marxist and social anarchist wings. The Champions of environmental diversity and stability, the SEU qualifies as far-left by any standard and generally supports full worker control over the economy, . Party leader Alix Olson is the current Premier of the US.

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* FictionalPoliticalParty: Played with; as the TL develops, new political parties form, but usually out of existing political parties. And the parties that have the same name tend to have diverged in radically different ways to become InNameOnly versions of their OTL counterparts.
** In the present day, the American major parties, from the political right to left, are:
*** True Democrats: ''True Democrats'': the designated traitor party. The drain trap that catches everything that won't accomodate to the revolution, becoming the mirror image of Western communist parties in our world.
*** The ''The Democratic-Republican Party: Party'': The resident mainstream right-wing party, although mostly center-left in Real Life. It's a catchall for the progressive political center- they approach socialism from a mutualist [[note]]an anarchist school of thought which advocates a market-based alternative to capitalism based around workers' associations (cooperatives)[[/note]] perspective. They favor markets and limited property relations. UsefulNotes/RonPaul serves Secretary-General (chief of staff and second-in-command). Think a communist American version of IRL libertarians.
*** Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party: ''Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party'': the former left-wing of the Democratic Party, they approach socialism from a christian perspective, and are largely left-wing nationalists.
*** Communist ''Communist Labor Party: Party'': the former center and right-wing of the Workers' Party, they place a greater emphasis on Marxism, support a more statist economy and are largely centrist on social issues.
*** Liberation Party: ''Liberation Party'': the left-wing splinter from the Workers' Party, founded as [[Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Liberation Communist Party]]. They're Left Communists [[note]]a term refering to communist that hold views to the left of Bolsheviks, usually of an anarcho-communist and internationalist position[[/note]] who want to push foward the world revolution and have a strong libertine streak.
*** Social ''Social Ecological Union: Union'': Greens, with libertarian marxist and social anarchist wings. The Champions of environmental diversity and stability, the SEU qualifies as far-left by any standard and generally supports full worker control over the economy, . Party leader Alix Olson is the current Premier of the US.



*** People's Alliance/Alliance Populaire: the party of perpetual government in the post-WW2 era, formed in 1949 from the ad hoc alliance between the British Conservative Party and the French Rally of Popular Republicans. The People's Alliance has constructed the economy along corporatist lines, establishing pro-business "patriotic unions" and doling out patronage through a sophisticated system of state capitalism to ensure social stability. On social stability, they've hold back women, minority and LGBT movements and only making reforms opportunistically.
*** Liberty/Liberté: the predominant right-wing opposition in the FBU, it does not style itself as a political party [[Main/NoExceptYes in spite of electing representatives to local and national government]]. It's mostly composed of [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic an armed paramilitary wing]] and [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Venture Capitalists]], Liberty styles itself as an ideologically liberal organization but is willing to support authoritarian measures to battle communism.
*** Labour Party/Parti d'Ouvriers: the merger between the UK's Labour Party and the French Section to the Workers' International (SFIO), it is a big tent left-wing party that suffered from the flight of the right-wing to the People's Alliance, the party leadership was taken over by Marxists and the center dwindled. It's under constant attack from the corporate media and the StateSec.
*** Communist Party: officially known as [[Main/OverlyLongName Entente Section of the Communist International]], has remained unified under a general program of revolutionary socialism. Since the seventies, the Communists are the hotbed of identity politics including feminist, LGBT liberation and multicultural thought.

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*** People's ''People's Alliance/Alliance Populaire: Populaire'': the party of perpetual government in the post-WW2 era, formed in 1949 from the ad hoc alliance between the British Conservative Party and the French Rally of Popular Republicans. The People's Alliance has constructed the economy along corporatist lines, establishing pro-business "patriotic unions" and doling out patronage through a sophisticated system of state capitalism to ensure social stability. On social stability, they've hold back women, minority and LGBT movements and only making reforms opportunistically.
*** Liberty/Liberté: ''Liberty/Liberté'';: the predominant right-wing opposition in the FBU, it does not style itself as a political party [[Main/NoExceptYes in spite of electing representatives to local and national government]]. It's mostly composed of [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic an armed paramilitary wing]] and [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Venture Capitalists]], Liberty styles itself as an ideologically liberal organization but is willing to support authoritarian measures to battle communism.
*** Labour ''Labour Party/Parti d'Ouvriers: d'Ouvriers'': the merger between the UK's Labour Party and the French Section to the Workers' International (SFIO), it is a big tent left-wing party that suffered from the flight of the right-wing to the People's Alliance, the party leadership was taken over by Marxists and the center dwindled. It's under constant attack from the corporate media and the StateSec.
*** Communist Party: ''Communist Party'': officially known as [[Main/OverlyLongName Entente Section of the Communist International]], has remained unified under a general program of revolutionary socialism. Since the seventies, the Communists are the hotbed of identity politics including feminist, LGBT liberation and multicultural thought.
24th Aug '16 11:13:02 AM tuxer
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: Played with; as the TL develops, new political parties form, but usually out of existing political parties. And the parties that have the same name tend to have diverged in radically different ways to become InNameOnly versions of their OTL counterparts. From the political right to left, the major political parties are:
** True Democrats: the designated traitor party. The drain trap that catches everything that won't accomodate to the revolution, becoming the mirror image of Western communist parties in our world.
** The Democratic-Republican Party: The resident mainstream right-wing party, although mostly center-left in Real Life. It's a catchall for the progressive political center- they approach socialism from a mutualist [[note]]an anarchist school of thought which advocates a market-based alternative to capitalism based around workers' associations (cooperatives)[[/note]] perspective. They favor markets and limited property relations. UsefulNotes/RonPaul serves Secretary-General (chief of staff and second-in-command). Think a communist American version of IRL libertarians.
** Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party: the former left-wing of the Democratic Party, they approach socialism from a christian perspective, and are largely left-wing nationalists.
** Communist Labor Party: the former center and right-wing of the Workers' Party, they place a greater emphasis on Marxism, support a more statist economy and are largely centrist on social issues.
** Liberation Party: the left-wing splinter from the Workers' Party, founded as [[Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Liberation Communist Party]]. They're Left Communists [[note]]a term refering to communist that hold views to the left of Bolsheviks, usually of an anarcho-communist and internationalist position[[/note]] who want to push foward the world revolution and have a strong libertine streak.
** Social Ecological Union: Greens, with libertarian marxist and social anarchist wings. The Champions of environmental diversity and stability, the SEU qualifies as far-left by any standard and generally supports full worker control over the economy, . Party leader Alix Olson is the current Premier of the US.

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* FictionalPoliticalParty: Played with; as the TL develops, new political parties form, but usually out of existing political parties. And the parties that have the same name tend to have diverged in radically different ways to become InNameOnly versions of their OTL counterparts. From ** In the present day, the American major parties, from the political right to left, the major political parties are:
** *** True Democrats: the designated traitor party. The drain trap that catches everything that won't accomodate to the revolution, becoming the mirror image of Western communist parties in our world.
** *** The Democratic-Republican Party: The resident mainstream right-wing party, although mostly center-left in Real Life. It's a catchall for the progressive political center- they approach socialism from a mutualist [[note]]an anarchist school of thought which advocates a market-based alternative to capitalism based around workers' associations (cooperatives)[[/note]] perspective. They favor markets and limited property relations. UsefulNotes/RonPaul serves Secretary-General (chief of staff and second-in-command). Think a communist American version of IRL libertarians.
** *** Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party: the former left-wing of the Democratic Party, they approach socialism from a christian perspective, and are largely left-wing nationalists.
** *** Communist Labor Party: the former center and right-wing of the Workers' Party, they place a greater emphasis on Marxism, support a more statist economy and are largely centrist on social issues.
** *** Liberation Party: the left-wing splinter from the Workers' Party, founded as [[Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Liberation Communist Party]]. They're Left Communists [[note]]a term refering to communist that hold views to the left of Bolsheviks, usually of an anarcho-communist and internationalist position[[/note]] who want to push foward the world revolution and have a strong libertine streak.
** *** Social Ecological Union: Greens, with libertarian marxist and social anarchist wings. The Champions of environmental diversity and stability, the SEU qualifies as far-left by any standard and generally supports full worker control over the economy, . Party leader Alix Olson is the current Premier of the US. US.
** In the present day, the major parties of the Franco-British Union, from the political right to left, are:
*** People's Alliance/Alliance Populaire: the party of perpetual government in the post-WW2 era, formed in 1949 from the ad hoc alliance between the British Conservative Party and the French Rally of Popular Republicans. The People's Alliance has constructed the economy along corporatist lines, establishing pro-business "patriotic unions" and doling out patronage through a sophisticated system of state capitalism to ensure social stability. On social stability, they've hold back women, minority and LGBT movements and only making reforms opportunistically.
*** Liberty/Liberté: the predominant right-wing opposition in the FBU, it does not style itself as a political party [[Main/NoExceptYes in spite of electing representatives to local and national government]]. It's mostly composed of [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic an armed paramilitary wing]] and [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Venture Capitalists]], Liberty styles itself as an ideologically liberal organization but is willing to support authoritarian measures to battle communism.
*** Labour Party/Parti d'Ouvriers: the merger between the UK's Labour Party and the French Section to the Workers' International (SFIO), it is a big tent left-wing party that suffered from the flight of the right-wing to the People's Alliance, the party leadership was taken over by Marxists and the center dwindled. It's under constant attack from the corporate media and the StateSec.
*** Communist Party: officially known as [[Main/OverlyLongName Entente Section of the Communist International]], has remained unified under a general program of revolutionary socialism. Since the seventies, the Communists are the hotbed of identity politics including feminist, LGBT liberation and multicultural thought.
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