History Literature / HeraldsOfValdemar

6th May '16 7:29:07 AM JoieDeCombat
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* HotGuysAreBastards: Not a general rule in the series, but Talia is notably mistrustful of handsome men thanks to childhood abuse at the hands of her older brother Justus, whose looks are described as "[[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon angelic." She's more comfortable with "[[HollywoodHomely attractively homely" Dirk than with his gorgeous friend Kris, and admits to Kris that she'd rather he were cross-eyed or had a few warts or something.

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* HotGuysAreBastards: Not a general rule in the series, but Talia is notably mistrustful of handsome men thanks to childhood abuse at the hands of her older brother Justus, whose looks are described as "[[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon angelic.angelic]]." She's more comfortable with "[[HollywoodHomely attractively homely" homely]]" Dirk than with his gorgeous friend Kris, and admits to Kris that she'd rather he were cross-eyed or had a few warts or something.
6th May '16 7:28:43 AM JoieDeCombat
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* HotGuysAreBastards: Not a general rule in the series, but Talia is notably mistrustful of handsome men thanks to childhood abuse at the hands of her older brother Justus, whose looks are described as "[[FaceOfAnAngelMindOfADemon angelic." She's more comfortable with "[[HollywoodHomely attractively homely" Dirk than with his gorgeous friend Kris, and admits to Kris that she'd rather he were cross-eyed or had a few warts or something.
5th May '16 10:26:25 PM Ramidel
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** After Vanyel's death, Valdemar's society undergoes enormous upheaval as magic fades into myth and Valdemar has to adapt to governing a much larger kingdom without the aid of magic, and limited technological development begins. ''The Collegium Chronicles'' and ''The Herald Spy'' show the establishment of formal university education at the Collegium, the development of technology to supplement more-limited Gifts [[note]]For instance, Bear becomes a recognized Healer without a Healing Gift simply by becoming the Collegium's foremost expert on herbs and chirurgy[[/note]], and most importantly the birth of the Artificer's discipline.
** The raw beginnings of Steam Age technology emerge during ''Mage Storms''. Justified in the sense that most societies have FunctionalMagic to do the jobs that technology might otherwise handle, with some (like the Eastern Empire) going all the way into {{Magitek}}. Valdemar has mind-magic and healing magic, even though "true magic" is blocked [[spoiler:by Vanyel's ghost]] until the end of ''Winds of Change.''

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** After Vanyel's death, Valdemar's society undergoes enormous upheaval as magic fades into myth and Valdemar has to adapt to governing a much larger kingdom without the aid of magic, and limited technological development begins. ''The Collegium Chronicles'' and ''The Herald Spy'' show the establishment of formal university education at the Collegium, the development of technology to supplement more-limited Gifts [[note]]For instance, Bear becomes a recognized Healer without a Healing Gift simply by becoming the Collegium's foremost expert on herbs and chirurgy[[/note]], and most importantly the birth of the Artificer's discipline.
discipline. Society also begins shifting away from the medieval; among other things, we see increased acceptance of homosexuality and development in women's rights.
** By the reign of Queen Selenay, Valdemar is technologically into the Renaissance (with the exception of gunpowder), and significantly beyond that in societal advancement. Indoor plumbing can be found in decent houses, a system of public works has provided Haven with free fountains, and every child is taught to read, write, and figure. The raw beginnings of Steam Age technology even emerge during ''Mage Storms''. Justified in Storms'', as the sense that most societies have FunctionalMagic to do Artificers of the jobs that technology might otherwise handle, Collegium begin a crash development program to save Haven through both magic and technology. Elsewhere, it's more or less the Middle Ages, with some (like the exception of the Eastern Empire) going all the way into {{Magitek}}. Valdemar Empire, which has mind-magic and healing magic, even though "true magic" is blocked [[spoiler:by Vanyel's ghost]] until the end of ''Winds of Change.''developed along [[{{Magitek}} a different technological path]].
5th May '16 10:15:40 PM Ramidel
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* MedievalStasis: Rigorously enforced throughout the series, with the raw beginnings of Steam Age technology emerging around ''Mage Storms''. Justified in the sense that most societies have FunctionalMagic to do the jobs that technology might otherwise handle, with some (like the Eastern Empire) going all the way into {{Magitek}}. Valdemar has mind-magic and healing magic, even though "true magic" is blocked [[spoiler:by Vanyel's ghost]] until the end of ''Winds of Change.''\\\
It's hinted that in the time of the ''Mage Wars'' trilogy, magic had allowed society to advance far beyond what we see in Valdemar, a few thousand years AfterTheEnd. For instance, Amberdrake attended an "advanced" medical college that denied the reality of HealingHands and other [[PsychicPowers Gifts]]. After the Cataclysm, societies rebuilt themselves to the medieval status we see. Over the course of several hundred years, Valdemar is founded by migrants from TheEmpire, grows, absorbs smaller kingdoms, and enters into a long-standing ColdWar with [[CorruptChurch Karse]].

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* MedievalStasis: Rigorously enforced throughout Averted, over the series, course of a series spanning three thousand years.
** It's hinted that in the time of the ''Mage Wars'' trilogy, magic had allowed society to advance far beyond what we see in Valdemar, a few thousand years AfterTheEnd. For instance, Amberdrake attended an "advanced" medical college that denied the reality of HealingHands and other [[PsychicPowers Gifts]], and several ''non-magical'' LostTechnology weapons can be found in Urtho's tower (including something implied to be an ''atomic bomb''). After the Cataclysm, societies rebuilt themselves to the medieval status we see. Over the course of several hundred years, Valdemar is founded by migrants from TheEmpire, grows, absorbs smaller kingdoms, and enters into a long-standing ColdWar
with [[CorruptChurch Karse]].
** Up until Vanyel's time, this roughly applied in Valdemar and
the surrounding petty kingdoms that would later join with Valdemar. Magic was widely used, particularly by the Herald-Mages, while technology and society remained essentially medieval. Vanyel, however, was the [[TitleDrop last Herald-Mage]], and after that, Valdemar would have to rely on [[PsychicPowers Gifts]] alone.
** After Vanyel's death, Valdemar's society undergoes enormous upheaval as magic fades into myth and Valdemar has to adapt to governing a much larger kingdom without the aid of magic, and limited technological development begins. ''The Collegium Chronicles'' and ''The Herald Spy'' show the establishment of formal university education at the Collegium, the development of technology to supplement more-limited Gifts [[note]]For instance, Bear becomes a recognized Healer without a Healing Gift simply by becoming the Collegium's foremost expert on herbs and chirurgy[[/note]], and most importantly the birth of the Artificer's discipline.
** The
raw beginnings of Steam Age technology emerging around emerge during ''Mage Storms''. Justified in the sense that most societies have FunctionalMagic to do the jobs that technology might otherwise handle, with some (like the Eastern Empire) going all the way into {{Magitek}}. Valdemar has mind-magic and healing magic, even though "true magic" is blocked [[spoiler:by Vanyel's ghost]] until the end of ''Winds of Change.''\\\
It's hinted that in the time of the ''Mage Wars'' trilogy, magic had allowed society to advance far beyond what we see in Valdemar, a few thousand years AfterTheEnd. For instance, Amberdrake attended an "advanced" medical college that denied the reality of HealingHands and other [[PsychicPowers Gifts]]. After the Cataclysm, societies rebuilt themselves to the medieval status we see. Over the course of several hundred years, Valdemar is founded by migrants from TheEmpire, grows, absorbs smaller kingdoms, and enters into a long-standing ColdWar with [[CorruptChurch Karse]].
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24th Mar '16 4:19:20 PM NativeJovian
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* ColorCodedCharacters: Heralds (white), Bards (red), and Healers (green) wear distinct, [[{{Highly Conspicuous Uniform}} highly conspicuous]] uniforms because being highly visible is part of their jobs. It's also observed that the colors in question are difficult to counterfeit: red and green dye are expensive and white cloth is hard to keep white. Each group's trainees also wear distinctively-colored (but less conspicuous) uniforms: Heraldic trainees in grey instead of white, Bardic trainees in rust-red instead of scarlet, and Healers in pale green instead of forest green.
** There's also a special case: The person wearing a uniform ''cut'' like Herald's Whites but ''colored'' like Herald Trainee's Greys is the Armsmaster. This started as just Alberich's personal refusal to wear the full-blown HighlyConspicuousUniform on personal safety grounds, but his successor Kerowyn cemented it into a tradition that seems likely to last.

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* ColorCodedCharacters: Heralds (white), Bards (red), and Healers (green) wear distinct, [[{{Highly {{Highly Conspicuous Uniform}} highly conspicuous]] uniforms Uniform}}s because being highly visible is part of their jobs. It's also observed that the colors in question are difficult to counterfeit: red and green dye are expensive and white cloth is hard to keep white. Each group's trainees also wear distinctively-colored (but less conspicuous) uniforms: Heraldic trainees in grey instead of white, Bardic trainees in rust-red instead of scarlet, and Healers in pale green instead of forest green.
** There's also a special case: The person wearing a uniform ''cut'' like Herald's Whites but ''colored'' like Herald Trainee's Greys is
green. In addition, the Armsmaster. Collegium's Armsmaster wears Hearld's "Whites" done in grey darker than the trainee uniforms. This started as just Alberich's a personal refusal to wear the full-blown HighlyConspicuousUniform on personal safety grounds, habit of Alberich, but his successor Kerowyn cemented did the same thing, cementing it into a tradition that seems likely to last.
23rd Mar '16 11:19:09 AM Nentuaby
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* DoppelgangerReplacementLoveInterest: Inverted somewhat with Stefen, who does not resemble Tylendel all that much but is more or less confirmed to be his reincarnation, making his lifebond with Vanyel not so much a ''replacement'' lifebond as a ''re''-lifebond.

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* DoppelgangerReplacementLoveInterest: Inverted somewhat with Stefen, who does not resemble Tylendel all that much but is more or less confirmed to be ''is'' his reincarnation, making his lifebond with Vanyel not so much a ''replacement'' lifebond as a ''re''-lifebond.
23rd Mar '16 11:11:19 AM Nentuaby
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* ColorCodedCharacters: Heralds (white), Bards (red), and Healers (green) wear distinct, {{Highly Conspicuous Uniform}}s because being highly visible is part of their jobs. It's also observed that the colors in question are difficult to counterfeit: red and green dye are expensive and white cloth is hard to keep white. Each group's trainees also wear distinctively-colored (but less conspicuous) uniforms: Heraldic trainees in grey instead of white, Bardic trainees in rust-red instead of scarlet, and Healers in pale green instead of forest green.
** There's also a special case: The person wearing a uniform ''cut'' like Herald's Whites but ''colored'' like Herald Trainee's Greys is the Armsmaster. This started as just Alberich's personal refusal to wear the full-blown HighlyVisibleUniform, but Kerowyn cemented it into a tradition that seems likely to last.

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* ColorCodedCharacters: Heralds (white), Bards (red), and Healers (green) wear distinct, {{Highly [[{{Highly Conspicuous Uniform}}s Uniform}} highly conspicuous]] uniforms because being highly visible is part of their jobs. It's also observed that the colors in question are difficult to counterfeit: red and green dye are expensive and white cloth is hard to keep white. Each group's trainees also wear distinctively-colored (but less conspicuous) uniforms: Heraldic trainees in grey instead of white, Bardic trainees in rust-red instead of scarlet, and Healers in pale green instead of forest green.
** There's also a special case: The person wearing a uniform ''cut'' like Herald's Whites but ''colored'' like Herald Trainee's Greys is the Armsmaster. This started as just Alberich's personal refusal to wear the full-blown HighlyVisibleUniform, HighlyConspicuousUniform on personal safety grounds, but his successor Kerowyn cemented it into a tradition that seems likely to last.
23rd Mar '16 11:08:36 AM Nentuaby
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** There's also a special case: The person wearing a uniform ''cut'' like Herald's Whites but ''colored'' like Herald Trainee's Greys is the Armsmaster. This started as just Alberich's personal refusal to wear the full-blown HighlyVisibleUniform, but Kerowyn cemented it into a tradition that seems likely to last.
23rd Mar '16 10:50:21 AM Nentuaby
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* AuthorAvatar: the character Myste is an obvious[[note]]and admitted by the author[[/note]] author self-insert; to make it clear ''how'' obvious, "Misty" is the author's nickname. And to make it even ''more'' obvious, Myste's position in the court is Herald-Chronicler, aka 'court historian', aka 'she writes down everything that's happening'. (She is also plump, BlindWithoutEm, and totally useless at any sort of fighting whatsoever, which dials down the potential Sue quotient considerably. [[Creator/MercedesLackey Guess who else]] is plump and BlindWithoutEm?)

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* AuthorAvatar: the character Myste is an obvious[[note]]and admitted by the author[[/note]] obvious (and admitted) author self-insert; to make it clear ''how'' obvious, "Misty" is the author's nickname. And to make it even ''more'' obvious, Myste's position in the court is Herald-Chronicler, aka 'court historian', aka 'she writes down everything that's happening'. (She is also plump, BlindWithoutEm, and totally useless at any sort of fighting whatsoever, which dials down the potential Sue quotient considerably. [[Creator/MercedesLackey Guess who else]] is plump and BlindWithoutEm?)
21st Mar '16 5:38:45 PM Nentuaby
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** Iftel was a Hidden Elf ''Nation State''. For hundreds of years it showed up on maps, but few ever went in or out. It was well known that trying to invade or sneak over the border would lead to instant death, but sometimes people were ''permitted'' in and came back out reporting that it was otherwise ''very'' boring place which there was no real reason to visit, ever... [[spoiler:In reality this is because it was being kept under a sort of PerceptionFilter by deity-scale magic. Its actual contents included a people (true Kaled'a'in) and even an entire sentient species (the Gryphons) that virtually everyone in the setting would have been ''floored'' to learn still existed in the world.]]

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** Iftel was a Hidden Elf ''Nation State''. For hundreds of years it showed up on maps, but few ever went in or out. It was well known that trying to invade or sneak over the border would lead to instant death, but sometimes people were ''permitted'' in and came back out reporting that it was otherwise a ''very'' boring place which there was no real reason to visit, ever... [[spoiler:In reality this is because it was being kept under a sort of PerceptionFilter by deity-scale magic. Its actual contents included contained a people (true Kaled'a'in) and even an entire sentient species (the Gryphons) that virtually everyone in the setting would have been ''floored'' to learn still existed in the world.world. Why visitors reported otherwise isn't quite explained, but it's implied to be because the same magic that guarded the borders also imposed a PerceptionFilter.]]
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