History Literature / HandOfThrawn

13th May '17 5:11:08 PM ErikModi
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** Old enmities also frame the debate. Notably, the Diamala and Ishori take opposite sides on the debate, partly due to their racial outlooks, but mostly because their opponent is on the opposite side.
13th May '17 5:07:53 PM ErikModi
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* TheChessmaster: Tierce, who is actually [[spoiler: a partial clone of Thrawn, though his actual genetic material came from a former Royal Guardsman; it's just that his mental programming included elements taken from Thrawn's own mind]]. As Pellaeon points out, though, he lacks the charisma and leadership necessary to be a truly MagnificentBastard.

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* TheChessmaster: Tierce, who is actually [[spoiler: a partial clone of Thrawn, though his actual genetic material came from a former Royal Guardsman; it's just that his mental programming included elements taken from Thrawn's own mind]]. As Pellaeon points out, though, he lacks the charisma charisma, vision, and leadership necessary to be a truly MagnificentBastard.
27th Apr '17 10:51:00 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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The Caamasi people were a group of peaceful {{Actual Pacifist}}s, so respected by even some warlike species that "caamasi" was a word for "friend from afar" or similar in numerous languages, and there is even a legend that the first Jedi came to the Caamasi to learn ethical use of the Force. Shortly after the Clone Wars, their planet's surface was razed; the few survivors were offworld or didn't see what initiated the Holocaust, but the genocide had long been believed to have been directed by Palpatine. Palpatine's copy of the Caamas document confirms this--but more importantly, notes that a number of Bothans, working for him, helped to lower Caamas's planetary shields, allowing the destruction. Unfortunately, the document Leia has found is corrupted, and the actual list of names is lost. When the news gets out, the New Republic is engulfed by demands for justice. The heatedness of the debate, with leaders of entire species coming down on either side, leads to a resurging of old inter-species rivalries, and the New Republic begins to fracture...just as word arrives on Coruscant that Grand Admiral Thrawn has returned.

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The Caamasi people were a group of peaceful {{Actual Pacifist}}s, so respected by even some warlike species that "caamasi" was a word for "friend from afar" or similar in numerous languages, and there is even a legend that the first Jedi came to the Caamasi to learn ethical use of the Force. Shortly after the Clone Wars, their planet's surface was razed; the few survivors were offworld or didn't see what initiated the Holocaust, but the genocide had long been believed to have been directed by Palpatine. Palpatine's copy of the Caamas document confirms this--but more importantly, notes that a number of Bothans, working for him, helped to lower Caamas's planetary shields, allowing the destruction. Unfortunately, the document Leia has found is corrupted, and the actual list of names is lost. When the news gets out, the New Republic is engulfed by demands for justice. The heatedness of the debate, with leaders of entire species coming down on either side, leads to a resurging of old inter-species rivalries, and the New Republic begins to fracture... just as word arrives on Coruscant that Grand Admiral Thrawn has returned.



** Subtle (it's never explicitly stated) but remember that tractor beam guy in ''The Last Command'' who Thrawn promoted instead of punishing him because he tried an imaginative solution to prevent Luke escaping his tractor beam, even though he failed? The one who Thrawn then ordered to work on the solution properly? Guess how Lando tries to escape an Imperial tractor beam at the end of ''Specter''...same method, only ''now'' [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the Empire has a way to defeat it]].

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** Subtle (it's never explicitly stated) but remember that tractor beam guy in ''The Last Command'' who Thrawn promoted instead of punishing him because he tried an imaginative solution to prevent Luke escaping his tractor beam, even though he failed? The one who Thrawn then ordered to work on the solution properly? Guess how Lando tries to escape an Imperial tractor beam at the end of ''Specter''... same method, only ''now'' [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome the Empire has a way to defeat it]].



* DidntSeeThatComing: The conspirators' plan to make everyone think Flim is [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] works so well that it convinces General Bel Iblis...who, when the attempt at infiltrating the Yaga Minor shipyard goes awry, decides that stopping Thrawn is important enough to sacrifice his own ship and life and prepares to ram "Thrawn's." Fortunately for the conspirators, the situation is resolved before this can happen.

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* DidntSeeThatComing: The conspirators' plan to make everyone think Flim is [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] works so well that it convinces General Bel Iblis... who, when the attempt at infiltrating the Yaga Minor shipyard goes awry, decides that stopping Thrawn is important enough to sacrifice his own ship and life and prepares to ram "Thrawn's." Fortunately for the conspirators, the situation is resolved before this can happen.



* FixFic: Like we said...Zahn read the rest of the EU. And it's easy to see which parts he liked and which he didn't.

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* FixFic: Like we said... Zahn read the rest of the EU. And it's easy to see which parts he liked and which he didn't.



** "The Hand of Thrawn" is the only uncorrupted sentence found on one of the damaged Imperial datacards unearthed at the beginning of ''Specter of the Past''. Everyone speculates about what it might mean, but Luke and Mara only find out when the latter realises what the damaged Chiss fortress on Nirauan, with its five remaining towers, looks like...

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** "The Hand of Thrawn" is the only uncorrupted sentence found on one of the damaged Imperial datacards unearthed at the beginning of ''Specter of the Past''. Everyone speculates about what it might mean, but Luke and Mara only find out when the latter realises what the damaged Chiss fortress on Nirauan, with its five remaining towers, looks like...like....
18th Mar '17 9:07:43 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* GenreSavvy: Pellaeon is well aware that the New Republic is going to survive the unrest caused by the Caamas Document, would find out if the Empire sent agitators to stir up trouble, and would mete harsh vengeance on them for trying. When some try anyway the first two happen, and the third is narrowly avoided by [[spoiler: Pellaeon's peace treaty.]]



'''Mara:''' [[GenreSavvy How badly did Thrawn slaughter them?]]\\

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'''Mara:''' [[GenreSavvy How badly did Thrawn slaughter them?]]\\them?\\



* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: [[DefiedTrope Defied]] by Flim, who [[GenreSavvy sees the writing on the wall]] rather late in the story and calls out Tierce and Disra for acting as if they're above the need for employing fringe elements of the galaxy in their scheme, when half of their plans outright depended on it. Also serve's as Flim's bid for equal standing in ThePlan - even if "Thrawn" is no longer necessary to continue, Flim's knowledge of the underworld will be.

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* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: [[DefiedTrope Defied]] by Flim, who [[GenreSavvy sees the writing on the wall]] wall rather late in the story and calls out Tierce and Disra for acting as if they're above the need for employing fringe elements of the galaxy in their scheme, when half of their plans outright depended on it. Also serve's as Flim's bid for equal standing in ThePlan - even if "Thrawn" is no longer necessary to continue, Flim's knowledge of the underworld will be.
19th Dec '16 9:10:00 PM Dingbot
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* DidntSeeThatComing: The conspirators' plan to make everyone think Flim is [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] works so well that it convinces General Bel Iblis...who, when the attempt at infiltrating the Yaga Minor shipyard goes awry, decides that stopping Thrawn is important enough to sacrifice his own ship and life and prepares to ram "Thrawn"'s. Fortunately for the conspirators, the situation is resolved before this can happen.

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* DidntSeeThatComing: The conspirators' plan to make everyone think Flim is [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] works so well that it convinces General Bel Iblis...who, when the attempt at infiltrating the Yaga Minor shipyard goes awry, decides that stopping Thrawn is important enough to sacrifice his own ship and life and prepares to ram "Thrawn"'s. "Thrawn's." Fortunately for the conspirators, the situation is resolved before this can happen.
13th Dec '16 4:46:31 PM StarSword
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* AwesomenessByAnalysis: At one point, Disra deduces that a flight of ships attacking a star destroyer are Diamalan by working backwards from intelligence reports on recent starship purchases. He then realizes that they're trying to find out if the rumors of Thrawn's return are true, and convinces them by finding in Thrawn's logs the tactics he used against the Diamalans during his invasion nine years earlier. [[KnowWhenToFoldEm The Diamalans quickly bug out.]]
30th Oct '16 8:55:59 PM dlchen145
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* CurbStompBattle: [[spoiler: Shada]] versus [[spoiler: Tierce]]. Considering how much of a BadAss the latter is supposed to be, it's surprising he was defeated so quickly.

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* CurbStompBattle: [[spoiler: Shada]] versus [[spoiler: Tierce]]. Considering how much of a BadAss badass the latter is supposed to be, it's surprising he was defeated so quickly.
30th Oct '16 6:36:21 AM TargetmasterJoe
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** There are also several to the events of ''The Thrawn'Trilogy'', naturally, as a SequelSeries.

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** There are also several to the events of ''The Thrawn'Trilogy'', Thrawn Trilogy'', naturally, as a SequelSeries.



* DidntSeeThatComing: The conspirators' plan to make everyone think Flim is [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] works so well that it convinces General Bel Iblis... who, when the attempt at infiltrating the Yaga Minor shipyard goes awry, decides that stopping Thrawn is important enough to sacrifice his own ship and life and prepares to ram "Thrawn"'s. Fortunately for the conspirators, the situation is resolved before this can happen.

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* DidntSeeThatComing: The conspirators' plan to make everyone think Flim is [[spoiler:Grand Admiral Thrawn]] works so well that it convinces General Bel Iblis... who, when the attempt at infiltrating the Yaga Minor shipyard goes awry, decides that stopping Thrawn is important enough to sacrifice his own ship and life and prepares to ram "Thrawn"'s. Fortunately for the conspirators, the situation is resolved before this can happen.
25th Oct '16 7:11:37 AM ErikModi
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* FixFic: Like we said...Zahn read the rest of the EU.

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* FixFic: Like we said...Zahn read the rest of the EU. And it's easy to see which parts he liked and which he didn't.
22nd Jul '16 2:45:03 PM Daethalion
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: In-Universe example. [[spoiler: Luke and Mara stumble upon a clone of Thrawn housed just beneath the fortress on Nirauan, which is almost fully mature and about to wake up. Considering the state of matters in the galaxy and what they just learned within the fortress, both of them nearly decide on just letting it live to continue Thrawn's work. Unfortunately, their snooping happens to wake up a pair of very formidable guard droids, and the ensuing battle results in the clone being destroyed anyway.]]
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