History Literature / CounselorsAndKings

2nd Dec '14 11:06:48 PM LordInsane
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* NotThatKindOfMage: There's a distinct hierarchy of types of wizards in Halruaa. Diviners and summoners are near the top, with conjurers, illusionists, and necromancers further down and generalists at the bottom. Referring to a wizard as part of a lower-ranking school will ''not'' go over well.

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* NotThatKindOfMage: There's a distinct hierarchy of types of wizards in Halruaa. Diviners and summoners are near the top, with conjurers, illusionists, and necromancers further down and generalists at the bottom. Referring to a wizard as part of a lower-ranking school will ''not'' go over well. well.
** ''Shining South'' for the [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms roleplaying game]] noted that this isn't ''really'' a formal hierarchy, and that diviners used to be quite a bit lower down in the ranking before Zalathorm showed just how useful a diviner [[TheArchmage Archmage]] could be in a position of power.
13th Apr '14 3:01:09 PM MasterGhandalf
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''Counselors and Kings'' is a trilogy of HeroicFantasy novels by Elaine Cunningham set in the nation of Halruaa in the TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms setting. As Halruaa is aesthetically and geographically distinct from the rest of the Realms, however, only the magic system, gods, and some throwaway references really tie it in to the main setting and it largely functions as its own self-contained story (hence the individual page).

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''Counselors and Kings'' is a trilogy of HeroicFantasy novels by Elaine Cunningham set in the nation of Halruaa in the TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms setting. As Halruaa is aesthetically and geographically distinct from the rest of the Realms, however, only the magic system, gods, and some throwaway references really tie it in to the main setting and it largely functions as its own self-contained story (hence the individual page).story.
8th Mar '14 2:49:39 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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The kingdom of Halruaa is ruled [[TheMagocracy by an aristocracy of powerful wizards]], kept in check by an elaborate system of laws, customs, and restrictions. These are protected by the Jordain Order, a specialized group of people specially bred to have peak human physical and mental abilities and almost total resistance to magical power. Loyal only to truth, Halruaa, and their wizard patrons, they generally function as advisors and aides to the most influential wizard-lords, and are the titular Counselors. An order of specialized wizards called Magehounds ensure the Jordaini's purity.

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The kingdom of Halruaa is ruled [[TheMagocracy by an aristocracy of powerful wizards]], kept in check by an elaborate system of laws, customs, and restrictions. These are protected by the Jordain Order, a specialized group of people specially bred to have peak human physical and mental abilities and almost total resistance to magical power. Loyal only to truth, Halruaa, and their wizard patrons, they generally function as advisors advisers and aides to the most influential wizard-lords, and are the titular Counselors. An order of specialized wizards called Magehounds ensure the Jordaini's purity.



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* AntiVillain: Zephyr, the elf jordain and Kiva's co-conspirator from the first book isn't really a bad sort, but he's dragged along in her schemes by his sense of personal obligation. One could also make a case for Uriah Belajoon, who wanted to avenge himself on Basel for a crime he didn't commit, but was really just a grieving old man manipulated by more evil characters.

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* AntiVillain: Zephyr, the elf jordain Jordain and Kiva's co-conspirator from the first book isn't really a bad sort, but he's dragged along in her schemes by his sense of personal obligation. One could also make a case for Uriah Belajoon, who wanted to avenge himself on Basel for a crime he didn't commit, but was really just a grieving old man manipulated by more evil characters.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Even [[spoiler: Dhamari]] is apalled when he finds out that Kiva [[spoiler: brought Akhlaur back]], though he quickly swallows his revulsion and sees oppurtunity for himself.
** Crinti are raiders from the land which is mostly theocracy worshipping the goddess of pain. And then one was told that a "partner" gave one on them to the Unseelie as a punishment. She calmly closed the conversation, then ordered her team to wrap up and go away, finding it impossible to deal with someone who can do ''this''.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Even [[spoiler: Dhamari]] is apalled appalled when he finds out that Kiva [[spoiler: brought Akhlaur back]], though he quickly swallows his revulsion and sees oppurtunity opportunity for himself.
** Crinti are raiders from the land which is mostly theocracy worshipping worshiping the goddess of pain. And then one was told that a "partner" gave one on them to the Unseelie as a punishment. She calmly closed the conversation, then ordered her team to wrap up and go away, finding it impossible to deal with someone who can do ''this''.



* EvilChancellor: Sort of. Cassia, Zalathorm's original jordain, is certainly amoral and amibitious and has no love for the protagonists, but there's no indication she's doing her job improperly or trying to corrupt Zalathorm.

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* EvilChancellor: Sort of. Cassia, Zalathorm's original jordain, Jordain, is certainly amoral and amibitious and has no love for the protagonists, but there's no indication she's doing her job improperly or trying to corrupt Zalathorm.



* GameBreaker: Subverted. Tzigone's combination of wizardly and jordaini abilities seems like this at first, but she finds out the hard way during her mage duel with Procopio that a wizard of sufficient skill can easily negate her advantages. She wins, but only because Procopio accidentally breaks the rules and forfeits himself- it's made clear that in a no-holds-barred fight, he'd curbstomp her.



* KnifeNut: The preffered weapons of the Jordain are two long knives.
* LetsGetDangerous: Basel looks fairl harmless on the surface; a friendly, jovial man more than willing to laugh off most offenses. Get into a real fight with him, though, and he'll show you why he used to be [[spoiler: a battle wizard who instructed jordaini students]], and if you threaten his apprentices, he'll show definite PapaWolf tendencies as well.

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* KnifeNut: The preffered preferred weapons of the Jordain are two long knives.
* LetsGetDangerous: Basel looks fairl fairly harmless on the surface; a friendly, jovial man more than willing to laugh off most offenses. Get into a real fight with him, though, and he'll show you why he used to be [[spoiler: a battle wizard who instructed jordaini Jordaini students]], and if you threaten his apprentices, he'll show definite PapaWolf tendencies as well.



* OneGenderRace: Make that one gender ''caste'', for the most part. Jordaini girls are stillborn more often than not, and as a result the jordaini are overwhelmingly male, with notable exceptions like Cassia [[spoiler: and Tizgone, sort of]].

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* OneGenderRace: Make that one gender ''caste'', for the most part. Jordaini girls are stillborn more often than not, and as a result the jordaini Jordaini are overwhelmingly male, with notable exceptions like Cassia [[spoiler: and Tizgone, sort of]].



--> '''Tzigone:''' Watch who you're calling a jordain! Don't start with me, [[YouDoNOTWantToKnow unless you want to hear]] a few things about yourself [[AwfulTruth that you won't like knowing]]. (And though not a [[WillNotTellALie jordain]], she made good on this threat.)

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--> '''Tzigone:''' Watch who you're calling a jordain! Jordain! Don't start with me, [[YouDoNOTWantToKnow unless you want to hear]] a few things about yourself [[AwfulTruth that you won't like knowing]]. (And though not a [[WillNotTellALie jordain]], she made good on this threat.)



* RunningGag: Tzigone stealing Matteo's jordain medallion, and in the first book [[MostDefinitelyNotAVillain vehemently denying that she's a wizard]], usually just after performing some fairly blatant magic. When she takes an apprenticeship with master wizard Basel Indoulur, Matteo is quick to point out the irony.

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* RunningGag: Tzigone stealing Matteo's jordain Jordain medallion, and in the first book [[MostDefinitelyNotAVillain vehemently denying that she's a wizard]], usually just after performing some fairly blatant magic. When she takes an apprenticeship with master wizard Basel Indoulur, Matteo is quick to point out the irony.



* SoulJar: [[spoiler:Kiva]]'s great quest is hunt for the gem containing trapped souls of her tribe. [[spoiler:The Cabal]] also acts as an equivalent of lich's philactery for [[spoiler: Akhlaur, Vishna, and Zalathorm]].

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* SoulJar: [[spoiler:Kiva]]'s great quest is hunt for the gem containing trapped souls of her tribe. [[spoiler:The Cabal]] also acts as an equivalent of lich's philactery phylactery for [[spoiler: Akhlaur, Vishna, and Zalathorm]].
22nd Feb '14 11:36:30 AM MasterGhandalf
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* TheHeavy: Kiva. Akhlaur may be more powerful and a bigger threat, but Kiva gets the lion's share of villain-related page time and development, being arguably as central to the story as Matteo or Tzigone.
26th Aug '13 1:09:58 PM MasterGhandalf
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* TheGhost: In ''The Magehound''. Akhlaur comes up often, but since he was defeated (though not killed) long ago, he never actually appears. [[spoiler: And then in ''The Floodgate'', he rectifies that in a big way]].
25th Aug '13 8:31:02 PM MasterGhandalf
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* AntagonistTitle: ''The Magehound'' is named for Kiva, not any of the heroic members of the cast. [[spoiler: Of course, it's also the only book where she's sole BigBad- from ''The Floodgate'' on, Akhlaur's getting involved...]]
25th Aug '13 8:01:49 AM MasterGhandalf
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** ''The Magehound''
** ''The Floodgate''
** ''The Wizardwar''

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** ## ''The Magehound''
** ## ''The Floodgate''
** ## ''The Wizardwar''
24th Aug '13 9:32:25 AM MasterGhandalf
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* SquareRaceRoundClass: Snarkily invoked by Akhlaur; he mentions at one point that "they" say that elves can't be necromancers, and then follows up by noting that "they" obviously never met Kiva.
27th May '13 11:31:05 PM Arha
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* BadassAbnormal: All Jordain
23rd May '13 6:32:30 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* GambitRoulette: Kiva's scheme, 200 years in the making. Its needless complexity is justified considering the mental stability (or lack thereof) of the person doing it.



* XanatosRoulette: Kiva's scheme, 200 years in the making. Its needless complexity is probably justified considering the mental stability (or lack thereof) of the person doing it.

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* XanatosRoulette: Kiva's scheme, 200 years in the making. Its needless complexity is probably justified considering the mental stability (or lack thereof) of the person doing it.
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