History Literature / BooksOfSamuel

13th May '17 4:32:57 AM Nakuyabi
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* RobbingTheDead: The Amalekite who came to David with Saul's royal crown and armband claiming to have killed him was almost certainly not being straight with David in other parts of his story as well as the part about killing Saul (who'd already committed suicide). For one thing, people don't just "happen" to be hanging around places where battles are taking place (like Mount Gilboa) as he claims to have been. For another, he must have gotten to Saul awfully ''quickly'' to have gotten his royal trappings before the Philistines found him. The likeliest explanation? He was a thief there to scavenge from the dead and just figured he'd found the biggest score of his career when he stumbled across Saul's remains.
13th May '17 4:15:53 AM Nakuyabi
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* AssholeVictim: Goliath, Absalom, King Saul, Joab, the Philistines and the Amalekites.

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* AssholeVictim: Goliath, Absalom, King Saul, Joab, Joab (eventually), the Philistines and the Amalekites.



* BadNewsInAGoodWay: When King David asks a Cushite officer announcing his victory over Absalom whether Absalom is still alive, the Cushite rather tactfully replies that he hopes ''all'' of King David's enemies end up sharing that young fellow's fate.



* DisproportionateRetribution: The rejection of Saul as king just just for doing some of Samuel's duties may seem like this at the outset, but it must be noted that the high priest makes sure the king does God's commands to the letter. Saul tries to bypass this and concentrate all power on himself. He was a tyrant in the making.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: The rejection of Saul as king just just for doing some of Samuel's duties may seem like this at the outset, but it must be noted that the high priest makes sure the king does God's commands to the letter. Saul tries to bypass this and concentrate all power on himself. He was a tyrant in the making.



* PrecisionFStrike: King Saul gets one in the original Hebrew and also in a few translations (e.g. The Living Bible) upon figuring out that Jonathan, who he had favored to be his successor, was on David's side.

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* PrecisionFStrike: King Saul gets one in the original Hebrew and also in a few translations (e.g. The Living Bible) upon figuring out that Jonathan, who whom he had favored to be his successor, was on David's side.



* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves:
** Though Saul's death means David's ascension to the throne, he has a liar who claims to have done a MercyKill on Saul put to death for daring to raise his hand against God's anointed King.
** Later, when two men who murdered his rival for the throne Ish-Bosheth come to him looking for a reward, he reminds them of what he did to Saul's (supposed) murderer and has them put to death and hung up as a warning to others while burying his rival with full honors.



-->"You '''son of a perverse, rebellious woman'''! I know that you side with the son of Jesse—to your shame, and to the shame of your mother's nakedness!"

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-->"You '''son '''[[TactfulTranslation son of a perverse, rebellious woman'''! woman]]'''! I know that you side with the son of Jesse—to your shame, and to the shame of your mother's nakedness!"



* UnusualEuphemism: Many English translations have Saul swear at Jonathan along the lines of, "You son of a ''[[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch perverse and rebellious woman]]''!" Needless to say, there is indeed a [[SonOfAWhore closer English equivalent]] to the Hebrew original, but apparently [[{{Bowdlerize}} most translators don't like the thought of putting it in]] Literature/TheBible. (''The Living Bible'' is a notable exception.)

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* UnusualEuphemism: Many English translations have Saul swear at Jonathan along the lines of, "You son of a ''[[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch perverse and rebellious woman]]''!" Needless to say, there is indeed a [[SonOfAWhore closer English equivalent]] to the Hebrew original, but apparently [[{{Bowdlerize}} most translators don't like the thought of putting it in]] prefer to use an [[TactfulTranslation equally accurate but not so precise translation]] for Literature/TheBible. (''The Living Bible'' is a notable exception.)
13th Apr '17 10:04:10 AM DustSnitch
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: David and Jonathan. (At least, if one [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation doesn't see]] too much HoYay in their relationship.)

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* %%* HeterosexualLifePartners: David and Jonathan. (At least, if one [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation doesn't see]] too much HoYay in their relationship.)Jonathan.



* HomoeroticSubtext: David and Jonathan's relationship, let the text speak for itself. 2 Samuel 1:26 "I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women." Needless to say, this is a controversial point.
13th Apr '17 9:58:29 AM DustSnitch
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Creator/JosephHeller's ''Literature/GodKnows'' is a modern -- and not a little {{meta|fiction}} -- retelling of the Books of Samuel.

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Creator/JosephHeller's %%Creator/JosephHeller's ''Literature/GodKnows'' is a modern -- and not a little {{meta|fiction}} -- retelling of the Books of Samuel.



* BadassCrew: 2nd Samuel has a ''list'' of Badasses who worked for King David, and were referred to as the "Mighty Men". The entire list is filled with stories of people killing off hundreds of people singlehanded, or fighting wild animals.



* BratsWithSlingshots: Notably ''not'' David, though many, many people believe he used one. What he really used was a ''sling''--which, in so many words, was the ancient world's equivalent of a gun or bow and arrow, rather than a kid's toy.



%%* IDidWhatIHadToDo: King Saul in 1 Samuel 13. God was less than pleased with this attitude and fired him.
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* [[MistakenForJunkie Mistaken For Drunk]]: When Hannah is praying for a child, Eli (the priest) assumes she's drunk. When she corrects him, he apologizes, and says something along the lines of "May God grant you what you ask for."

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* [[MistakenForJunkie Mistaken For Drunk]]: MistakenForJunkie: When Hannah is praying for a child, Eli (the priest) assumes she's drunk. When she corrects him, he apologizes, and says something along the lines of "May God grant you what you ask for."



* PleaseShootTheMessenger: King David has Uriah the Hittite carry a letter to Joab, his commanding officer:
-->''And he wrote in the letter, saying: Set ye Uriah in the forefront of the hottest battle, and retire ye from him, that he may be smitten, and die.''

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* PleaseShootTheMessenger: King David has gets Uriah the Hittite carry a letter to Joab, his commanding officer:
-->''And he wrote in the letter, saying: Set ye Uriah in the forefront
out of the hottest battle, and retire ye way by sending him back to camp with dispatches for the general, Joab. Joab's orders: "Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him, that him so he may will be smitten, struck down and die.''"



* TwentyBearAsses: UrExample, 100 Philistine [[GroinAttack foreskins]]. [[UpToEleven David brought back 200]].
* TragicBromance: David and Jonathan.

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* TwentyBearAsses: UrExample, 100 Philistine [[GroinAttack foreskins]]. [[UpToEleven David brought back 200]].
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%%* TragicBromance: David and Jonathan.Jonathan.
* TwentyBearAsses: Saul offered his daughter's hand in marriage to David, if David could bring him [[GroinAttack 100 Philistine foreskins]]. David one-upped him and brought back 200.



* UriahGambit: TropeMaker and TropeNamer, but not in the same event. The Trope Maker is Saul sending David on missions to get him killed (unsuccessful), whereas the TropeNamer is David sending Uriah to his death.

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* UriahGambit: TropeMaker and TropeNamer, but not in the same event. The Trope Maker is Saul sending David on missions to get him killed (unsuccessful), whereas the TropeNamer is David David's attempt to get a woman and conceal his guilt by sending Uriah to her husband who is one of his death.own loyal soldiers to death in the hands of the enemy.


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%%* VillainousBreakdown: Saul ever since God rejected him.
* WarriorPoet: David, giant slayer and great musician/poet/dancer.
11th Apr '17 6:25:41 PM infernape612
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* TheUriahGambit: TropeMaker and TropeNamer, but not in the same event. The Trope Maker is Saul sending David on missions to get him killed (unsuccessful), whereas the TropeNamer is David sending Uriah to his death.


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* UriahGambit: TropeMaker and TropeNamer, but not in the same event. The Trope Maker is Saul sending David on missions to get him killed (unsuccessful), whereas the TropeNamer is David sending Uriah to his death.
4th Apr '17 12:52:17 PM VicGeorge2011
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* SleepingDummy: Michal creates one by using an image stuffed under the covers of David's bed to help her husband escape being killed by her father King Saul.
18th Mar '17 11:42:58 AM Jeduthun
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* AlasPoorVillain: When Absalom is defeated, David is devastated at losing his son, and mourns so intensely that his officers finally have to give him a WhatTheHellHero for hurting his men's morale.

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* AlasPoorVillain: When Absalom is defeated, David is devastated at losing his son, and [[HeroicBSOD mourns so intensely intensely]] that his officers finally have to give him a WhatTheHellHero for hurting his men's morale.



* HeterosexualLifePartners: David and Jonathan.

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* HeroicBSOD: David suffers one when he receives the news that Absalom has been killed. Joab has to snap him out of it with a WhatTheHellHero speech accusing him of ruining morale by caring more for his traitorous son than his loyal followers.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: David and Jonathan. (At least, if one [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation doesn't see]] too much HoYay in their relationship.)



* ImprobableWeaponUser: The Philistines had a monopoly on weapons so the Israelites (with the exception of Saul & Jonathan) had to weaponise their farm tools.
** To elaborate, the Philistines promised that they would not go to war with Israel if the Jews destroyed all of their weapons. The Jews, being TooDumbToLive, complied. Needless to say, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough they regretted their decision almost immediately]].

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* ImprobableWeaponUser: The Philistines had a monopoly on weapons so the Israelites (with the exception of Saul & Jonathan) had to weaponise their farm tools.
** To elaborate, the
tools. The Philistines promised that they would not go to war with Israel if the Jews destroyed all of their weapons. The Jews, being TooDumbToLive, complied. Needless to say, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough they regretted their decision almost immediately]].
14th Mar '17 12:19:27 PM Jeduthun
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** Joab gives one to David as well, for mourning over Absalom's death so much that he neglected to thank his men for their loyalty.
14th Mar '17 12:10:05 PM Jeduthun
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* AlasPoorVillain: When Absalom is defeated, David is devastated at losing his son, and mourns so intensely that his officers finally have to give him a WhatTheHellHero for hurting his men's morale.
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