History Literature / BookOfExodus

27th Feb '17 6:24:39 AM Mhazard
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* WizardDuel: Aaron duels against the Pharaoh by turning his MagicStaff into a snake, and the Pharaoh sends his own sorcerers to turn their staves into snakes. But Arron's snake swallowed the Pharaoh's snakes. The Ten Plagues incident also involves Moses dueling against Egyptian sorcerers.
21st Dec '16 11:48:50 AM dotchan
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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible There is some speculation as to his/their identity]], with [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_II Thutmose II]] being the best candidate for the Pharaoh Moses contended with, especially since his successor [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatshepsut]], or someone connected to her, went out of their way to deface his monuments and erase records of his reign. Perhaps this is why there is scant evidence of the events outside the Scriptures.

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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible There is some speculation as to his/their identity]], with [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_II Thutmose II]] being the best candidate for the Pharaoh Moses contended with, especially since his successor [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatshepsut]], org/wiki/Hatshepsut Hatshepsut]], or someone connected to her, went out of their way to deface his monuments and erase records of his reign. Perhaps this is why there is scant evidence of the events outside the Scriptures.
30th Nov '16 7:39:23 PM Mhazard
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* RealityEnsues:
** Moses sees an overseer whipping a Jew and is overcome with rage, killing him. Rather than [[BigDamnHeroes immediately viewing him as an ally]] and savior, this makes the other Jews [[WhatTheHellHero view him as a dangerous murderer]] the next day, when he confronts one of the Jews about fighting with some other Jew, he asks if Moses is going to kill him, too.
** The Pharaoh let the Israelites go after the 10th plague killed his son. However, once the people are gone, Pharaoh and other officials realized that they just let go all their workers and now they're economically screwed.
28th Nov '16 10:42:24 PM Timjames98
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%%* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Rahab.

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%%* * HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Rahab.Rahab. She sheltered the Israeli Spies in her home, helping them to take the city of Jericho.
28th Nov '16 10:40:28 PM Timjames98
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** Your Mileage May Vary on this, but since all humans are sinners it could rather be said of God that GoodIsNotSoft.

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** Your Mileage May Vary on this, but since [[HumansAreBastards all humans are sinners sinners]] it could rather be said of God that GoodIsNotSoft.
28th Nov '16 10:33:47 PM Timjames98
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** It has been stated that parts of it won't hold up if they change currencies or experience any other kind of economic fluctuation though; fines, dowries, acceptable gifts, and a lot of goods are given set prices (in shekels). Regardless, everything aside from monetary values would still stand.
28th Nov '16 2:41:19 AM SarenVader22
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28th Nov '16 2:39:13 AM SarenVader22
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* AllFlyersAreBirds: In the LongList of laws detailing what animals are and are not OK to eat, [[note]] Interestingly, no plants or fungi are considered to be unclean. Many scholars now believe these laws about meat and dairy products [[FairForItsDay were a way of protecting people from food poisoning and parasites, in an era with no refrigeration, a hot climate easily conducive to food spoilage, and no real concept of germ theory]]. Anyway, the lack of unclean vegetables and fruit becomes important later in the Literature/BookOfDaniel, when the Jews are exiled in Babylon (which does not abide by these rules). Daniel and his followers simply adopt a vegetarian diet to reaffirm their commitment to their traditions and faith. [[/note]] bats are listed among the unclean birds. [[note]] Mostly birds of prey, and birds (such as storks) that feed on carrion, which could potentially transmit diseases and parasites to humans who might eat them. As for bats, it is now known that the consumption of fruit bats in Africa ''has'' been linked to the transmission of Ebola and related viruses. Again, a way of keeping people healthy (and thus keeping communicable diseases at bay) by declaring certain types of meat and ways of handling/preparing/serving it off limits. [[/note]] Bats are mammals, not birds.
* ArtisticLicenseHistory: [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Possibly]]. There is no archaeological evidence or written record of a mass migration of people (enslaved or otherwise) out of AncientEgypt and into the Middle East It's believed that there's a historical core to the story since one of the oldest poems in the book titled "The Song of the Sea" is dated to the 12th century BC. However, [[SelectiveObliviousness the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories]]. These are two of various reasons why even scholars who aren't Christian or even members of the Abrahamic faiths think there must have been a exodus (or several of them) of some sort whether or not it happened in the grander way the Bible describes it. Also most (if not all) of Egypt's monuments were built not by foreign slaves, but by Egyptian day-laborers (often farmers in the off-season), though the Bible also stipulates that the Hebrews didn't build the monuments, they did more menial tasks such as making bricks.

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* AllFlyersAreBirds: In the LongList of laws detailing what animals are and are not OK to eat, [[note]] Interestingly, no plants or fungi are considered to be unclean. Many scholars now believe these laws about meat and dairy products [[FairForItsDay were a way of protecting people from food poisoning and parasites, in an era with no refrigeration, a hot climate easily conducive to food spoilage, and no real concept of germ theory]]. Anyway, the lack of unclean vegetables and fruit becomes important later in the Literature/BookOfDaniel, when the Jews are exiled in Babylon (which does not abide by these rules). Daniel and his followers simply adopt a vegetarian diet to reaffirm their commitment to their traditions and faith. [[/note]] bats are listed among the unclean birds. [[note]] Mostly birds of prey, and birds (such as storks) that feed on carrion, which could potentially transmit diseases and parasites to humans who might eat them. As for bats, it is now known that the consumption of fruit bats in Africa ''has'' been linked to the transmission of Ebola and related viruses. Again, a way of keeping people healthy (and thus keeping communicable diseases at bay) by declaring certain types of meat and ways of handling/preparing/serving it off limits. [[/note]] Bats are mammals, not birds.birds ([[ScienceMarchesOn either this distinction wasn't known in those days]] or [[HaveAGayOldTime birds was a catch-all term for all vertebrates that could fly]]).
* ArtisticLicenseHistory: [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Possibly]]. There is no archaeological evidence or written record of a mass migration of people (enslaved or otherwise) out of AncientEgypt and into the Middle East East. However, [[SelectiveObliviousness the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories]]. It's believed that there's a historical core to the story since one of the oldest poems in the book titled "The Song of the Sea" is dated to the 12th century BC. However, [[SelectiveObliviousness the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories]]. BC. These are two of various reasons why even scholars who aren't Christian or even members of the Abrahamic faiths think there must have been a exodus (or several of them) of some sort whether or not it happened in the grander way the Bible describes it. Also most (if not all) of Egypt's monuments were built not by foreign slaves, but by Egyptian day-laborers (often farmers in the off-season), though the Bible also stipulates that the Hebrews didn't build the monuments, they did more menial tasks such as making bricks.
28th Nov '16 2:35:14 AM SarenVader22
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: There is no archaeological evidence or written record of a mass migration of people (enslaved or otherwise) out of AncientEgypt and into the Middle East(Even though the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories) It's believed that there's a historical core to the story since one of the oldest poems in the book titled "The Song of the Sea" is dated to the 12th century BC. This is one of various reasons why scholars think there must have been a exodus(or several of them) of some sort even if it didn't happen in the grander way the Bible describes it. Also most (if not all) of Egypt's monuments were built not by foreign slaves, but by Egyptian day-laborers (often farmers in the off-season).

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Possibly]]. There is no archaeological evidence or written record of a mass migration of people (enslaved or otherwise) out of AncientEgypt and into the Middle East(Even though the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories) East It's believed that there's a historical core to the story since one of the oldest poems in the book titled "The Song of the Sea" is dated to the 12th century BC. This is one BC. However, [[SelectiveObliviousness the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories]]. These are two of various reasons why even scholars who aren't Christian or even members of the Abrahamic faiths think there must have been a exodus(or exodus (or several of them) of some sort even if whether or not it didn't happen happened in the grander way the Bible describes it. it. Also most (if not all) of Egypt's monuments were built not by foreign slaves, but by Egyptian day-laborers (often farmers in the off-season).off-season), though the Bible also stipulates that the Hebrews didn't build the monuments, they did more menial tasks such as making bricks.



* DontSaySuchStupidThings: This is how God sharply tells Moses to accept his assignment in leading His people out of Egypt.

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* DontSaySuchStupidThings: This is how God sharply tells Moses to accept his assignment in leading His people out of Egypt.Egypt, since Moses was still recalcitrant despite God performing miracles to show what He can do/use them to convince Pharaoh.



** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible There is some speculation as to his/their identity]], with [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_II Thutmose II]] being the best candidate for the Pharaoh Moses contended with.

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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharaohs_in_the_Bible There is some speculation as to his/their identity]], with [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_II Thutmose II]] being the best candidate for the Pharaoh Moses contended with.with, especially since his successor [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatshepsut]], or someone connected to her, went out of their way to deface his monuments and erase records of his reign. Perhaps this is why there is scant evidence of the events outside the Scriptures.



* WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide: The conquest of Canaan. The book more or less explicitly states that with a few exceptions the Israelites systematically exterminated the population (including civilians, children and even livestock) of the country and did so righteously. [[ValuesDissonance Of course, pretty much every tribe behaved back then like that]].

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* WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide: The conquest of Canaan. The book more or less explicitly states that with a few exceptions the Israelites systematically exterminated the population (including civilians, children and even livestock) of the country and did so righteously. [[ValuesDissonance Of course, pretty much every tribe behaved back then like that]].
18th Nov '16 7:45:09 PM Art199
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: There is no archaeological evidence or written record of a mass migration of people (enslaved or otherwise) out of AncientEgypt and into the Middle East(Even though the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories) It's believed that there's a historical core to the story since one of the oldest poems in the book titled "The Song of the Sea" is dated to the 12th century BC. This is one of various reasons why scholars think there must have been a exodus(or several of them) of some sort even if it didn't happen in the grander way the Bible describes it. most (if not all) of Egypt's monuments were built not by foreign slaves, but by Egyptian day-laborers (often farmers in the off-season).

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: There is no archaeological evidence or written record of a mass migration of people (enslaved or otherwise) out of AncientEgypt and into the Middle East(Even though the ancient Egyptians never recorded their defeats and even turned some of them into victories) It's believed that there's a historical core to the story since one of the oldest poems in the book titled "The Song of the Sea" is dated to the 12th century BC. This is one of various reasons why scholars think there must have been a exodus(or several of them) of some sort even if it didn't happen in the grander way the Bible describes it. Also most (if not all) of Egypt's monuments were built not by foreign slaves, but by Egyptian day-laborers (often farmers in the off-season).
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