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7th Jun '16 7:43:18 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** There was no such ambiguity in the original Japanese version. Three ragged holes in his back and everything. And the reactions of the rest of the main characters seals the fact that he wasn't coming back. In fact, just to give Akira Kamiya more stick time as Focker, they had to bring him back in a [[Anime/MacrossZero prequel]].

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** *** There was no such ambiguity in the original Japanese version. Three ragged holes in his back and everything. And the reactions of the rest of the main characters seals the fact that he wasn't coming back. In fact, just to give Akira Kamiya more stick time as Focker, they had to bring him back in a [[Anime/MacrossZero prequel]].
7th Jun '16 7:43:06 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Macross]][=/=]Anime/{{Robotech}}'':
** In the episode, "Pineapple Salad/Goodbye Big Brother," it should have been made obvious what was going to happen with Hikaru Ichijou/Rick Hunter's senpai/brother, Roy [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Focker/Fokker]], but the usual standard {{bowdlerization}} of 1980s television animation made assuming that the show would choke rather obvious. When the show actually followed through and killed him off, it showed this was no ordinary animated series on North American TV. MoralGuardians raised a fuss and complained that it was bad for children.\\\
No such ambiguity in the original Japanese version of the episode. Three ragged holes in his back and everything. And the reactions of the rest of the main characters seals the fact that he wasn't coming back. In fact, just to give Akira Kamiya more stick time as Focker, they had to bring him back in a prequel.
** After pulling off a couple fakeout deaths and at least one deliberate [[MythologyGag death joke]], ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' may have gone overboard in making sure viewers understood that Michael Blanc was dead. He gets stabbed in the chest with an alien claw that's almost as big as he is, and is then sucked out into hard vacuum through a self-sealing hull breach. No real way of coming back from ''that'' one. Not to forget the "coughs up blood, makes a final 'I love you' speech, does the ReallyDeadMontage and has a memorial shot at the end with his glasses." You know, because [[Film/{{Aliens}} it's the only way to be sure.]]

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* ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Macross]][=/=]Anime/{{Robotech}}'':
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** In the ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross[=/=]Anime/{{Robotech}}'' episode, "Pineapple Salad/Goodbye Big Brother," it should have been made obvious what was going to happen with Hikaru Ichijou/Rick Hunter's senpai/brother, Roy [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Focker/Fokker]], but the usual standard {{bowdlerization}} of 1980s American television animation made assuming Western viewers assume that the show would choke rather obvious.take the safe route. When the show actually followed through and killed him off, it showed this was no ordinary animated series on North American TV. MoralGuardians raised a fuss and complained that it was bad for children.\\\
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such ambiguity in the original Japanese version of the episode.version. Three ragged holes in his back and everything. And the reactions of the rest of the main characters seals the fact that he wasn't coming back. In fact, just to give Akira Kamiya more stick time as Focker, they had to bring him back in a prequel.
[[Anime/MacrossZero prequel]].
** After pulling off a couple fakeout deaths and at least one deliberate [[MythologyGag death joke]], ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' may have gone overboard in making sure viewers understood that Michael Blanc was dead. He gets stabbed in the chest with an alien claw that's almost as big as he is, and is then sucked out into hard vacuum through a self-sealing hull breach. No real way of coming back from ''that'' one. Not to forget the "coughs up blood, makes a final 'I love you' speech, does the ReallyDeadMontage and has a memorial shot at the end with his glasses." You know, because [[Film/{{Aliens}} it's the only way to be sure.]]sure]].
30th Apr '16 9:55:07 AM BossKey
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** A number of the Seven Stars Assassins/Shadow Riders after their defeat, namely Camula, Abidos, and Amnael/Daitokuji (Titan gets DraggedOffToHell instead).

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** A number of the The Seven Stars Assassins/Shadow Riders Camula and Abidos, after their defeat, namely Camula, Abidos, and Amnael/Daitokuji respective defeats (Titan gets DraggedOffToHell instead).instead and Amnael/Daitokuji becomes a SpiritAdvisor).
30th Apr '16 9:53:05 AM BossKey
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* ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'': In the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).
** A number of the Seven Stars Assassins/Shadow Riders after their defeat, namely Camula, Abidos, and Amnael/Daitokuji (Titan gets DraggedOffToHell instead).
** Season 3 has Professor Viper being killed off by Yubel after [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outliving his usefulness]]. Additionally, when everyone who died in the alternate dimension over the course of the season is brought back at the end, Echo and Amon Garam were not.



** In the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).

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** In * ''Anime/YuGiOhArcV'' has most character "deaths" represented by the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished character being sealed into a card, making it ambiguous whether they're truly dead or stuck in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).
state of AndIMustScream. Sergey Volkov, however, did not get this treatment, instead being beaten to death off-screen by [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized angry Commons]].
9th Apr '16 3:06:29 AM Tron80
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* ''Anime/PanzerWorldGalient'': TheGero's surrogate grandfather Asbeth died when he fought the BigBad. General Rhodan also got killed when he wanted to fight [[TheHero Jordy]] honorably. Also, the end credits in the final episode heavily imply this for [[TheDragon Hy Shaltat]] and [[BigBad Marder]], as well.

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* ''Anime/PanzerWorldGalient'': TheGero's TheHero's surrogate grandfather Asbeth died when he fought the BigBad. General Rhodan also got killed when he wanted to fight [[TheHero Jordy]] honorably. Also, the end credits in the final episode heavily imply this for [[TheDragon Hy Shaltat]] and [[BigBad Marder]], as well.
9th Apr '16 2:46:40 AM Tron80
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* ''Anime/PanzerWorldGalient'': TheGero's surrogate grandfather Asbeth died when he fought the BigBad. General Rhodan also got killed when he wanted to fight [[TheHero Jordy]] honorably. Also, the end credits in the final episode heavily imply this for [[TheDragon Hy Shaltat]] and [[BigBad Marder]], as well.
28th Jan '16 1:57:21 PM Willbyr
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* Cibo and Sana-Kan from ''{{Blame}}''! cop it for real at the end of the series. This comes as quite a shock, as both characters had [[DeathIsCheap technically died several times before this]]. Admittedly, Sana-Kan's death ''is'' heavily {{lampshade|Hanging}}d during a conversation with her [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness apparent superior]].

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* Cibo and Sana-Kan from ''{{Blame}}''! ''Manga/{{Blame}}''! cop it for real at the end of the series. This comes as quite a shock, as both characters had [[DeathIsCheap technically died several times before this]]. Admittedly, Sana-Kan's death ''is'' heavily {{lampshade|Hanging}}d during a conversation with her [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness apparent superior]].



* ''{{Kekkaishi}}'''s Gen, much to the surprise of... everyone.
* ''KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has this happen to a few important characters throughout the story.

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* ''{{Kekkaishi}}'''s ''Manga/{{Kekkaishi}}'''s Gen, much to the surprise of... everyone.
* ''KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has this happen to a few important characters throughout the story.



* Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' that [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism somehow managed to die]] instead of simply getting [[DefeatMeansFriendship befriended]]: The first Reinforce, Zest. Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' that seem to be dead: Precia. Reinforce, in particular, is shown to be doomed to die even in [[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable continuities where she survives past her original time of death]], even though other characters related to the Book of Darkness, such as the Wolkenritter and the Materials, would prove to be especially resilient to death, surviving several {{Near Death Experience}}s and [[BackFromTheDead death itself]], and Reinforce herself was the first character described as unkillable due to her Rejuvenation Program.

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* Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' that [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism somehow managed to die]] instead of simply getting [[DefeatMeansFriendship befriended]]: The first Reinforce, Zest. Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' that seem to be dead: Precia. Reinforce, in particular, is shown to be doomed to die even in [[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable continuities where she survives past her original time of death]], even though other characters related to the Book of Darkness, such as the Wolkenritter and the Materials, would prove to be especially resilient to death, surviving several {{Near Death Experience}}s and [[BackFromTheDead death itself]], and Reinforce herself was the first character described as unkillable due to her Rejuvenation Program.



* There's a common rule in ''OnePiece'': If you die in a flashback, you're Killed Off for Real. If you don't die in a flashback, chances are, you might pull off a DisneyDeath. Prime examples of the former are Bellemere, Hiruluk, Tom, Kuina, Usopp's mother, Robin's friends and mother, and Brook's pirate crew. However, the latter rule saw itself subverted, with Portgas D. Ace having fallen straight into this, and Whitebeard following two chapters later.

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* There's a common rule in ''OnePiece'': ''Franchise/OnePiece'': If you die in a flashback, you're Killed Off for Real. If you don't die in a flashback, chances are, you might pull off a DisneyDeath. Prime examples of the former are Bellemere, Hiruluk, Tom, Kuina, Usopp's mother, Robin's friends and mother, and Brook's pirate crew. However, the latter rule saw itself subverted, with Portgas D. Ace having fallen straight into this, and Whitebeard following two chapters later.



** In the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).

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** In the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).ambiguous).

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26th Dec '15 8:20:42 PM jormis29
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* ''{{Simoun}}'' has the HeroicSacrifice death of Mamina. And to add insult to injury, the Simile carrying her coffin is shot down. Other characters are much more ambiguous: We have Rimone and Dominura, who TimeTravel, then take off to parts unknown; Amuria, for whom they NeverFoundTheBody; Onasia, who, well, [[MindScrew who knows]]; Yun, who now exists in the sort of limbo the previous did; and Neviril and Aer who AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. Angulas also manages to die as a suicide bomber, but still show up as a body in the cockpit of an enemy Simoun later. ''Great'' series, but very very strange.

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* ''{{Simoun}}'' ''Anime/{{Simoun}}'' has the HeroicSacrifice death of Mamina. And to add insult to injury, the Simile carrying her coffin is shot down. Other characters are much more ambiguous: We have Rimone and Dominura, who TimeTravel, then take off to parts unknown; Amuria, for whom they NeverFoundTheBody; Onasia, who, well, [[MindScrew who knows]]; Yun, who now exists in the sort of limbo the previous did; and Neviril and Aer who AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. Angulas also manages to die as a suicide bomber, but still show up as a body in the cockpit of an enemy Simoun later. ''Great'' series, but very very strange.
14th Nov '15 4:57:11 PM nombretomado
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* ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Macross]]/{{Robotech}}'':

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* ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Macross]]/{{Robotech}}'':Macross]][=/=]Anime/{{Robotech}}'':
2nd Oct '15 3:24:07 PM CyberTiger88
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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', the scientists who created Mewtwo in ''PokemonTheFirstMovie'', Latios in ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'', Lucario and Sir Aaron in ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'', and J in [=DP151=]. Cyrus is implied to be this in [=DP152=].

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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', the scientists who created Mewtwo in ''PokemonTheFirstMovie'', ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'', Latios in ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'', Lucario and Sir Aaron in ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'', and J in [=DP151=]. Cyrus is implied to be this in [=DP152=].
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