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28th Jan '16 1:57:21 PM Willbyr
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* Cibo and Sana-Kan from ''{{Blame}}''! cop it for real at the end of the series. This comes as quite a shock, as both characters had [[DeathIsCheap technically died several times before this]]. Admittedly, Sana-Kan's death ''is'' heavily {{lampshade|Hanging}}d during a conversation with her [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness apparent superior]].
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* Cibo and Sana-Kan from ''{{Blame}}''! ''Manga/{{Blame}}''! cop it for real at the end of the series. This comes as quite a shock, as both characters had [[DeathIsCheap technically died several times before this]]. Admittedly, Sana-Kan's death ''is'' heavily {{lampshade|Hanging}}d during a conversation with her [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness apparent superior]].

* ''{{Kekkaishi}}'''s Gen, much to the surprise of... everyone. * ''KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has this happen to a few important characters throughout the story.
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* ''{{Kekkaishi}}'''s ''Manga/{{Kekkaishi}}'''s Gen, much to the surprise of... everyone. * ''KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' ''Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'' has this happen to a few important characters throughout the story.

* Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' that [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism somehow managed to die]] instead of simply getting [[DefeatMeansFriendship befriended]]: The first Reinforce, Zest. Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' that seem to be dead: Precia. Reinforce, in particular, is shown to be doomed to die even in [[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable continuities where she survives past her original time of death]], even though other characters related to the Book of Darkness, such as the Wolkenritter and the Materials, would prove to be especially resilient to death, surviving several {{Near Death Experience}}s and [[BackFromTheDead death itself]], and Reinforce herself was the first character described as unkillable due to her Rejuvenation Program.
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* Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' that [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism somehow managed to die]] instead of simply getting [[DefeatMeansFriendship befriended]]: The first Reinforce, Zest. Non-minor characters from ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' that seem to be dead: Precia. Reinforce, in particular, is shown to be doomed to die even in [[VideoGame/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAsPortable continuities where she survives past her original time of death]], even though other characters related to the Book of Darkness, such as the Wolkenritter and the Materials, would prove to be especially resilient to death, surviving several {{Near Death Experience}}s and [[BackFromTheDead death itself]], and Reinforce herself was the first character described as unkillable due to her Rejuvenation Program.

* There's a common rule in ''OnePiece'': If you die in a flashback, you're Killed Off for Real. If you don't die in a flashback, chances are, you might pull off a DisneyDeath. Prime examples of the former are Bellemere, Hiruluk, Tom, Kuina, Usopp's mother, Robin's friends and mother, and Brook's pirate crew. However, the latter rule saw itself subverted, with Portgas D. Ace having fallen straight into this, and Whitebeard following two chapters later.
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* There's a common rule in ''OnePiece'': ''Franchise/OnePiece'': If you die in a flashback, you're Killed Off for Real. If you don't die in a flashback, chances are, you might pull off a DisneyDeath. Prime examples of the former are Bellemere, Hiruluk, Tom, Kuina, Usopp's mother, Robin's friends and mother, and Brook's pirate crew. However, the latter rule saw itself subverted, with Portgas D. Ace having fallen straight into this, and Whitebeard following two chapters later.

** In the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).
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** In the original version, Edo Phoenix's adoptive father DD perished in his final confrontation with Edo (although the dub version had him make a threat which made his fate ambiguous).ambiguous). ----
26th Dec '15 8:20:42 PM jormis29
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* ''{{Simoun}}'' has the HeroicSacrifice death of Mamina. And to add insult to injury, the Simile carrying her coffin is shot down. Other characters are much more ambiguous: We have Rimone and Dominura, who TimeTravel, then take off to parts unknown; Amuria, for whom they NeverFoundTheBody; Onasia, who, well, [[MindScrew who knows]]; Yun, who now exists in the sort of limbo the previous did; and Neviril and Aer who AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. Angulas also manages to die as a suicide bomber, but still show up as a body in the cockpit of an enemy Simoun later. ''Great'' series, but very very strange.
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* ''{{Simoun}}'' ''Anime/{{Simoun}}'' has the HeroicSacrifice death of Mamina. And to add insult to injury, the Simile carrying her coffin is shot down. Other characters are much more ambiguous: We have Rimone and Dominura, who TimeTravel, then take off to parts unknown; Amuria, for whom they NeverFoundTheBody; Onasia, who, well, [[MindScrew who knows]]; Yun, who now exists in the sort of limbo the previous did; and Neviril and Aer who AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. Angulas also manages to die as a suicide bomber, but still show up as a body in the cockpit of an enemy Simoun later. ''Great'' series, but very very strange.
14th Nov '15 4:57:11 PM nombretomado
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* ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Macross]]/{{Robotech}}'':
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* ''[[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Macross]]/{{Robotech}}'':Macross]][=/=]Anime/{{Robotech}}'':
2nd Oct '15 3:24:07 PM CyberTiger88
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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', the scientists who created Mewtwo in ''PokemonTheFirstMovie'', Latios in ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'', Lucario and Sir Aaron in ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'', and J in [=DP151=]. Cyrus is implied to be this in [=DP152=].
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* In ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', the scientists who created Mewtwo in ''PokemonTheFirstMovie'', ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'', Latios in ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'', Lucario and Sir Aaron in ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'', and J in [=DP151=]. Cyrus is implied to be this in [=DP152=].
2nd Oct '15 3:23:33 PM CyberTiger88
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* In ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'', the scientists who created Mewtwo in the first movie, Latios in the fifth movie, Lucario and Sir Aaron in the eighth movie, and J in [=DP151=]. ** Also in the episode directly after J's death, what happens to Cyrus when he enters a portal to a dimension that is then destroyed by Dialga and Palkia?
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* In ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', the scientists who created Mewtwo in the first movie, ''PokemonTheFirstMovie'', Latios in the fifth movie, ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'', Lucario and Sir Aaron in the eighth movie, ''Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew'', and J in [=DP151=]. ** Also in the episode directly after J's death, what happens to [=DP151=]. Cyrus when he enters a portal is implied to a dimension that is then destroyed by Dialga and Palkia?be this in [=DP152=].

** Emerl is also killed by Cream after she fails to bring him back to normal at the end of the Sonic Battle arc, since Gemerl doesn't exist in Sonic X he ends up as this.
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** Emerl is also killed by Cream after she fails to bring him back to normal at the end of the Sonic Battle arc, since Gemerl [[VideoGame/SonicAdvanceTrilogy Gemerl]] doesn't exist in Sonic X he ends up as this.
29th Aug '15 4:26:11 PM SarcotarascusN
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** In GT, Piccolo insists on staying dead so that the Black Star Dragon Balls can never be used again. He continues to make several afterlife appearances, but it's stated explicitly that the Dragon Balls will never be used to bring him back to life again.
11th Aug '15 5:45:08 AM Silverblade2
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* This is an inviolable rule in the Creator/{{CLAMP}} universe. If a person dies, there is absolutely '''NO''' way to bring back him back to life '''EVER'''. In some mangas it is also hinted that not even ''gods'' have the power to bring the dead back to life. The plot of ''TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' comes from the problems that result from trying to circumvent this rule. The rule only applies to living beings who have a "natural existence". So, Chii is excluded from the rule. Even C!Shaoran and C!Sakura can be "brought back from the dead", because their "birth" is "unnatural".
9th Aug '15 10:51:49 PM Silverblade2
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* Everyone in ''SoukouNoStrain''.
9th Aug '15 10:50:42 PM Silverblade2
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* ''Manga/DeathNote'' is set in the Real World. When somebody dies, they stay dead. It is initially implied that, for Death Note users, when they die, instead of Heaven or Hell, they go to Nothingess (Mu). [[TheNothingAfterDeath Ouch.]] It is later revealed that this is true for EVERYONE. ** Not that this has stopped the fanfic writers. ** In the manga, Light uses deductive reasoning to come to the conclusion there is no heaven or hell.
8th Aug '15 3:11:56 AM SetsunasaNiWa
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cleaning Captain Obvious trope sinkhole use, project thread here
* ''Animation/BlackCatDetective'' is almost schizophrenic about this. On the one hand, this show has no problem killing characters for real. The evil mice [[CaptainObvious certainly die when they get killed]]. His second in command, well, if you watch this show, don't get to attached to him. But the elephant who gets shot in the middle of the head at point blank range is revived by an enormous syringe.
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* ''Animation/BlackCatDetective'' is almost schizophrenic about this. On the one hand, this show has no problem killing characters for real. The evil mice [[CaptainObvious certainly die when they get killed]].killed. His second in command, well, if you watch this show, don't get to attached to him. But the elephant who gets shot in the middle of the head at point blank range is revived by an enormous syringe.

* ''Manga/DeathNote'' is set in the Real World. [[CaptainObvious When somebody dies, they stay dead]]. It is initially implied that, for Death Note users, when they die, instead of Heaven or Hell, they go to Nothingess (Mu). [[TheNothingAfterDeath Ouch.]] It is later revealed that this is true for EVERYONE.
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* ''Manga/DeathNote'' is set in the Real World. [[CaptainObvious When somebody dies, they stay dead]].dead. It is initially implied that, for Death Note users, when they die, instead of Heaven or Hell, they go to Nothingess (Mu). [[TheNothingAfterDeath Ouch.]] It is later revealed that this is true for EVERYONE.
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