History KarmaHoudini / VideoGames

28th Jan '18 6:32:57 PM Onlythrice
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** You can let a number of {{NPC}}s get away scot free for various crimes. However, occasionally this will work out for the better. Helena Blake, a crime lord from the first game, asks you to kill two rivals for her and then return to her base for the reward. You can either take your credits, arrest her (she resists and you have to kill her), or convince her to disband her gang. If you ask her to disband it, she turns up in [=ME2=] working as a social worker on Omega. Similarly, Rana Thanoptis, who was working on indoctrination for Saren in the first game, turns up in Warlord Okeer's base on Korlus, ostensibly to help the krogan. She's not too sucessful.

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** You can let a number of {{NPC}}s get away scot free for various crimes. However, occasionally this will work out for the better. Helena Blake, a crime lord from the first game, asks you to kill two rivals for her and then return to her base for the reward. You can either take your credits, arrest her (she resists and you have to kill her), or convince her to disband her gang. If you ask her to disband it, she turns up in [=ME2=] working as a social worker on Omega. If you don't, she ends up working for [[IronLady Aria]]. Similarly, Rana Thanoptis, who was working on indoctrination for Saren in the first game, turns up in Warlord Okeer's base on Korlus, ostensibly to help the krogan. She's not too sucessful.successful.



** The 3rd game resolves some (but not all) of these: [[spoiler:Rana Thanoptis wasn't just working for Saren, she was indoctrinated. If she survives to the third game, she kills a bunch of asari military officers before committing suicide in custody. Balak shows up again, and you can either kill him or ask for his help; it's your decision whether justice is worth more than the help of the Batarian fleet he will bring. And Gavin Archer shows up, sincerely remorseful over his actions and helping the Alliance against Cerberus, who have a standing order to shoot him on sight. Whether or not that's enough is up to you.]] Even Vido gets his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcifmc4-os8 according to some dialogue that doesn't appear in the final cut]]. [[spoiler:Zaeed caught up with him again…[[FateWorseThanDeath and let him get harvested by the Reapers]].]]

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** The 3rd game resolves some (but not all) of these: [[spoiler:Rana Thanoptis wasn't just working for Saren, she was indoctrinated. If she survives to you didn't shoot her in the third first game, she kills a bunch of asari military officers before committing suicide in custody. Balak shows up again, and you can either kill him or ask for his help; it's your decision whether justice is worth more than the help of the Batarian fleet he will bring. And Gavin Archer shows up, sincerely remorseful over his actions and helping the Alliance against Cerberus, who have a standing order to shoot him on sight. Whether or not that's enough is up to you.]] Even Vido gets his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcifmc4-os8 according to some dialogue that doesn't appear in the final cut]]. [[spoiler:Zaeed caught up with him again…[[FateWorseThanDeath and let him get harvested by the Reapers]].]]
9th Jan '18 3:10:44 AM Cryoclaste
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* [[BigBad Victor Zaitsev]] in ''{{Vanquish}}'' gets away with hijacking and destroying the space colony. Due to [[StillbornFranchise the game's poor commercial performance]] and being ScrewedByTheNetwork, it is unlikely we will see a sequel.

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* [[BigBad Victor Zaitsev]] in ''{{Vanquish}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Vanquish}}'' gets away with hijacking and destroying the space colony. Due to [[StillbornFranchise the game's poor commercial performance]] and being ScrewedByTheNetwork, it is unlikely we will see a sequel.
9th Jan '18 2:47:39 AM Cryoclaste
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* Eric Sparrow of ''[[TonyHawkProSkater Tony Hawk Underground]]''. He uses the player character as a means to make himself more popular, going so far as to edit a video tape to remove an amazing stunt that the player character had pulled off and leaving the character in Moscow after a drunken ride on a tank causes massive amounts of damage and destruction and he/she tries to stop it. Even though Eric is shown that skating for the sake of skating is way better than skating for money and retrieving the video tape that had your character's stunt still on it, Eric's duplicity is never revealed and he is just left throwing a temper tantrum at the end. [[spoiler:Unless you count the alternate ending where the player character decks him in the nose and walks off with the tape.]]

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* Eric Sparrow of ''[[TonyHawkProSkater Tony Hawk Underground]]''.''VideoGame/TonyHawksUnderGround''. He uses the player character as a means to make himself more popular, going so far as to edit a video tape to remove an amazing stunt that the player character had pulled off and leaving the character in Moscow after a drunken ride on a tank causes massive amounts of damage and destruction and he/she tries to stop it. Even though Eric is shown that skating for the sake of skating is way better than skating for money and retrieving the video tape that had your character's stunt still on it, Eric's duplicity is never revealed and he is just left throwing a temper tantrum at the end. [[spoiler:Unless you count the alternate ending where the player character decks him in the nose and walks off with the tape.]]
2nd Jan '18 6:12:00 PM nombretomado
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* Morcalavin in ''{{Heretic}} II'', the villain of the story. One of the {{Precursors}}, who botched a spell to make his race AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and became a power-mad EvilOverlord creating a plague that turns people into rabid zombies or mind-controlled slaves. At the end of the game, you learn that the way to rid the world of the plague is to fix the spell, allowing Morcalavin to become indeed a god. Even though he's magically cured of his madness, it's still a bit annoying that he is rewarded rather than punished for his crimes...

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* Morcalavin in ''{{Heretic}} ''VideoGame/{{Heretic}} II'', the villain of the story. One of the {{Precursors}}, who botched a spell to make his race AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence and became a power-mad EvilOverlord creating a plague that turns people into rabid zombies or mind-controlled slaves. At the end of the game, you learn that the way to rid the world of the plague is to fix the spell, allowing Morcalavin to become indeed a god. Even though he's magically cured of his madness, it's still a bit annoying that he is rewarded rather than punished for his crimes...
19th Dec '17 9:31:23 AM DLove
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* The ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' series plays a lot with this trope, especially with the [[PlayableCharacter playable characters]], including: [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Tommy Vercetti]] in the mission "Missing With The Man", killing civilians and causing destruction in the city, [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas CJ]] in "Management Issues", killing the Madd Dogg's manager and his girlfriend, and [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoLibertyCityStories Toni Cipriani]] having committed a lot of atrocities on orders from Donald Love and Ned Burner. And of the three mentioned, they all got away with it; at least canonically and [[LaserGuidedKarma as we know them]].

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* The ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' series plays a lot with this trope, especially with the [[PlayableCharacter playable characters]], including: [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Tommy Vercetti]] in the mission "Missing With The Man", killing civilians and causing destruction in the city, [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas CJ]] in "Management Issues", killing the Madd Dogg's manager and his girlfriend, and [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoLibertyCityStories Toni Cipriani]] having committed a lot of atrocities on orders from Donald Love and Ned Burner. And of the three mentioned, they all got away with it; at least canonically and [[LaserGuidedKarma as we know them]].it.



** While his compatriots Michael and Franklin aren't straight-up good guys by any means, Trevor Philips, one of the three {{Villain Protagonist}}s from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'', probably would have been written as an antagonist in any other installment in the series. [[spoiler:In addition to being a cannibalistic SerialKiller, he also relentlessly abuses and finally kills the innocent and helpless Floyd Hebert. But in [[GoldenEnding Ending C]], he gets to walk off triumphantly into the sunset just like the other two, although he does [[KillItWithFire burn to death]] in [[DownerEnding Ending A]]. However, picking A or B does leave most of the other villains in the game to walk off scot-free, with one of the two biggest ones getting everything he asked for, so in the end it's a matter of picking your poison. And frankly, compared to [[RabidCop Steve Haines]] or [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Devin Weston]], Trevor is ''pleasant'']].

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** While his compatriots Michael and Franklin aren't straight-up good guys by any means, Trevor Philips, one of the three {{Villain Protagonist}}s from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'', probably would have been written as an antagonist in any other installment in the series. [[spoiler:In addition to being a cannibalistic SerialKiller, he also relentlessly abuses and finally kills the innocent and helpless Floyd Hebert. But in [[GoldenEnding Ending C]], he gets to walk off triumphantly into the sunset just like the other two, although he does [[KillItWithFire burn to death]] in [[DownerEnding Ending A]]. However, picking A or B does leave most of the other villains in the game to walk off scot-free, with one of the two biggest ones getting everything he asked for, so in the end it's a matter of picking your poison. And frankly, compared to [[RabidCop Steve Haines]] or [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Devin Weston]], Trevor is ''pleasant'']].



* In ''VideoGame/MaxPayne 3'', you never get a chance to cap [[TheMafia Anthony DeMarco Sr.]] for all the grief he's put Max through. On the other hand, you did just kill his son and most of his army. Max just lets Serrano go back to being a killer [[spoiler: just half a day after watching him murder Mrs. Branco. In front of her sister]]. Whether or not this is justified ([[spoiler:Serrano may or may not have had his guts surgically removed and his friends and family turned into organ pulp]]) is unknown. Then again, considering that [[spoiler:Serrano is in ''very'' bad shape when you meet him for the last time, and the building he's in collapses shortly afterwards, its possible that karma caught up to him in the end.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/MaxPayne 3'', you never get a chance to cap [[TheMafia Anthony DeMarco Sr.]] for all the grief he's put Max through. On the other hand, you did just kill his son and most of his army. Max just lets Serrano go back to being a killer [[spoiler: just half a day after watching him murder Mrs. Branco. In front of her sister]]. Whether or not this is justified ([[spoiler:Serrano may or may not have had his guts surgically removed and his friends and family turned into organ pulp]]) is unknown. Then again, considering that [[spoiler:Serrano is in ''very'' bad shape when you meet him for the last time, and the building he's in collapses shortly afterwards, its possible that karma caught up to him in the end.]]
18th Dec '17 3:07:58 PM dvorak
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18th Dec '17 11:01:55 AM dvorak
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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/{{Wick}}''. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let TBubber think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]

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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/{{Wick}}''. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let TBubber [=TBubber=] think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]
18th Dec '17 11:00:50 AM dvorak
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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/{{Wick}}''. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let Jbubber think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]

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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/{{Wick}}''. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let Jbubber TBubber think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]
18th Dec '17 10:46:41 AM dvorak
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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/Wick]]. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let Jbubber think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]

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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/Wick]].''VideoGame/{{Wick}}''. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let Jbubber think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]
18th Dec '17 10:28:57 AM dvorak
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* Defied in the ''No Way Out'' DLC from ''VideoGame/Wick]]. The ghosts wait juuuust long enough to let Jbubber think he escaped retrubution for desecrating their graves, then ambush him. He escapes them, but not the unidentified third party who [[ShovelStrike clocks him with a shovel...]]
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