History KarmaHoudini / VideoGames

2nd Apr '17 12:30:49 PM nombretomado
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* Invoked in ''{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin''. [[spoiler:Jun became Joker due to his anger over the perceived notion that Tatsuya and co never received punishment for almost killing his close friend Maya years ago.]]

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* Invoked in ''{{Persona 2}}: ''VideoGame/Persona2: Innocent Sin''. [[spoiler:Jun became Joker due to his anger over the perceived notion that Tatsuya and co never received punishment for almost killing his close friend Maya years ago.]]
14th Mar '17 8:07:01 PM Onlythrice
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** [[spoiler: Gaunter O'Dimm]] in the ''Hearts of Stone'' expansion. He's an exceptionally powerful and sadistic demon that's been tormenting people for millennia, convincing them to make [[DealWithTheDevil deals with him]] that end with him taking their souls. He casually murders a man [[DisproportionateRetribution for offering Geralt a drink when they were trying to talk]], and when a scholar tried to learn more about him he blinded the man and trapped him in his own basement for a year before finally killing him. He's very heavily implied to be the series' equivalent of Satan, and the most Geralt can do is temporarily banish him.

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** [[spoiler: Gaunter O'Dimm]] in the ''Hearts of Stone'' expansion. He's an exceptionally powerful and sadistic demon that's been tormenting people for millennia, convincing them to make [[DealWithTheDevil deals with him]] that end with him taking their souls. He casually murders a man [[DisproportionateRetribution for offering Geralt a drink when they were trying to talk]], and when a scholar tried to learn more about him he blinded the man and trapped him in his own basement for a year before finally killing him. He's very heavily implied to be the [[SatanicArchetype series' equivalent of Satan, Satan]], and the most Geralt can do is temporarily banish him.
27th Feb '17 5:57:45 AM THEKHAN
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** Sylvanas. She's under suspicion for the wrathgate (we don't know how much she knew), invaded Gilneas, nuked Southshore, waged a campaign of genocide on the Humans, manipulated the Horde (to join them in the first place in order to use them as tools), set herself up as an object of cult worship, employed the Val'kyr (which seems to be a case of "Even Chaos has standards" when seen by pragmatic Death Knight Thassarian), resurrected those who she killed against their will, shot and killed Liam Greymane, attempted to steal the Scythe of Elune to enslave the Worgen and make even more to make an even BIGGER army to do her bidding, and made some kind of deal with the devil to get the Val'kyr in the first place. The closest she got to any kind of punishment was Lor'thermar [[ImpliedDeathThreat threatening her if she raised the Horde's dead as Forsaken]], stating [[MurderByInaction he'd leave her to the Alliance if she tried it on their dead]] and [[WhatTheHellHero calling her out on several of her actions in Mists of Pandaria]]. [[spoiler: In Legion, after retreating from the Broken Shore on Vol'jin's death, she ends up being named the next Warchief of the Horde on Vol'jin's recommendation, despite said retreat costed Varian's life, and rather than fighting the Burning Legion, she ends up plotting to further expand her Val'kyr collection... but Greymane quickly put an end to that, leaving her in very short or no supplies of Val'kyrs... but it still didn't quite deter her yet.]]

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** Sylvanas. Even before Wrathgate, she kept human prisoners in cages, to be tortured, experimented on, vivisected and lobotomized to be slaves and plague material. Her Royal Apotechary kidnapped innocents to experiment upon under her watch, and keep tortured human slaves for fun and science. She's under suspicion for the wrathgate (we don't know how much she knew), knew, but it is likely she turned a blind eye), invaded Gilneas, nuked Southshore, waged a campaign of genocide genocide, massacre and torture on the Humans, manipulated the Horde (to join them in the first place in order to use them as tools), set herself up as an object of cult worship, employed the Val'kyr (which seems to be a case of "Even Chaos has standards" when seen by pragmatic Death Knight Thassarian), resurrected those who she killed against their will, shot and killed Liam Greymane, attempted to steal the Scythe of Elune to enslave the Worgen and make even more to make an even BIGGER army to do her bidding, and made some kind of deal with the devil to get the Val'kyr in the first place. The closest she got to any kind of punishment was Lor'thermar [[ImpliedDeathThreat threatening her if she raised the Horde's dead as Forsaken]], stating [[MurderByInaction he'd leave her to the Alliance if she tried it on their dead]] and [[WhatTheHellHero calling her out on several of her actions in Mists of Pandaria]]. [[spoiler: In Legion, after retreating from the Broken Shore on Vol'jin's death, she ends up being named the next Warchief of the Horde on Vol'jin's recommendation, despite said retreat costed Varian's life, and rather than fighting the Burning Legion, she ends up plotting to further expand her Val'kyr collection... but Greymane quickly put an end to that, leaving her in very short or no supplies of Val'kyrs... but it still didn't quite deter her yet.]]
25th Feb '17 10:30:25 PM BigKlingy
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** Ardos from ''VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness'', on the other hand, is the big one. His father, Greevil, chose to side with Eldes, the other son, and accept arrest instead of blowing up Citadark Isle ''with you on it''. Even after this, Ardos appears as an opponent in the Orre Colosseum and makes clear his intent to rebuild Cipher; both by giving Michael a warning that he will be watched and branding him as "Cipher's Biggest Enemy". This is the guy who could have gotten away, killed you and the rest of his group from the safety of his chopper, and reconstructed Cipher for absolute dominion in the following months, and has likely backed up all the vital data on Cipher's Shadow Pokemon research. [[FridgeHorror Let that sink in for a second]].

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** Ardos from ''VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness'', on the other hand, is the big one. His father, Greevil, chose to side with Eldes, the other son, and accept arrest instead of blowing up Citadark Isle ''with you on it''. Even after this, Ardos appears as an opponent in the Orre Colosseum and makes clear his intent to rebuild Cipher; both by giving Michael a warning that he will be watched and branding him as "Cipher's Biggest Enemy". This is the guy who could have gotten away, killed you and the rest of his group from the safety of his chopper, and reconstructed Cipher for absolute dominion in the following months, and has likely backed up all the vital data on Cipher's Shadow Pokemon research. [[FridgeHorror Let It's very likely he was intended to be the BigBad of [[SequelHook a sequel]] that sink in for a second]].never came to be.
12th Feb '17 8:55:27 PM LordYAM
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* [[CorruptCop George Sewell]] in ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour''. [[spoiler:He's the cause of the entire events behind the game, and directly responsible for Frank Coleridge's death (Whether he did it himself or convinced Murphy to do it is up to the player's actions). He's also responsible for all manner of illegal and corrupt activities with the prisoners, but in the end he only gets his comeuppance in one ending, ''which isn't even the best ending to get''. In the end, as far as anyone except Anne and Murphy knows, Murphy killed Frank for no reason and Sewell is completely innocent, and in three of the four endings, he walks away scot-free.]]

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* [[CorruptCop George Sewell]] in ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour''. [[spoiler:He's the cause of the entire events behind the game, and directly responsible for Frank Coleridge's death (Whether he did it himself or convinced Murphy to do it is up to the player's actions). He's also responsible for all manner of illegal and corrupt activities with the prisoners, but in the end he only gets his comeuppance in one ending, ''which isn't even the best ending to get''. In the end, as far as anyone except Anne and Murphy knows, Murphy killed Frank for no reason and Sewell is completely innocent, and in three of the four endings, he walks away scot-free.]]]] Subverted in the canon ending, where Anne kills him.



* Taken to a meta-level: Lord Scourge in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic.'' [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Pureblood Sith]] that answers only to the OmnicidalManiac Emperor. He ''literally'' stabbed the [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Jedi Exile]] InTheBack, got [[BadassAdorable T3-M4]] turned to ashes, and betrayed ''Revan'' and got him sent to Malestrom Prison for [[AndIMustScream 300 years of torture]] as the Emperor's pet chew toy (driving him genocidally insane in the process). But EvenEvilHasStandards, and Scourge doesn't want the Emperor devouring the whole galaxy [[TheTick because that's where he keeps all his stuff]]. So, he merrily invites himself on the Jedi Knight's boat, sourly disapproving of everything the Light sided Knight does, and [[TheStarscream helps the Knight kill his boss]]. [[HeelFaceTurn Does he repent?]] Does he face ''any'' fallout for what he did to the protagonists of the last two games? Heck, no! Does he merrily get away with it? Heck, yeah! The Knight apparently doesn't even mind that Scourge keeps trying to recruit them to the DarkSide. And just to put the cherry on the Karma Houdini sundae? He saunters up to ''Revan and Bastila's decendant'' to accept a Republic heroism reward! (Satele is pretty disgusted at having to give it to the louse.)

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* Taken to a meta-level: Lord Scourge in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic.'' [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Pureblood Sith]] that answers only to the OmnicidalManiac Emperor. He ''literally'' stabbed the [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Jedi Exile]] InTheBack, got [[BadassAdorable T3-M4]] turned to ashes, and betrayed ''Revan'' and got him sent to Malestrom Prison for [[AndIMustScream 300 years of torture]] as the Emperor's pet chew toy (driving him genocidally insane in the process). But EvenEvilHasStandards, and Scourge doesn't want the Emperor devouring the whole galaxy [[TheTick because that's where he keeps all his stuff]]. So, he merrily invites himself on the Jedi Knight's boat, sourly disapproving of everything the Light sided Knight does, and [[TheStarscream helps the Knight kill his boss]]. [[HeelFaceTurn Does he repent?]] Does he face ''any'' fallout for what he did to the protagonists of the last two games? Heck, no! Does he merrily get away with it? Heck, yeah! The Knight apparently doesn't even mind that Scourge keeps trying to recruit them to the DarkSide. And just to put the cherry on the Karma Houdini sundae? He saunters up to ''Revan and Bastila's decendant'' to accept a Republic heroism reward! (Satele is pretty disgusted at having to give it to the louse.) Interestingly, he does express regret when the Hero of Tython talks about it; he admits he liked them but felt that stopping the Emperor was more important.
25th Jan '17 3:27:49 PM MagBas
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** [[spoiler: Maki]] from VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 could also be one. Like [[spoiler: Genocide Jack, she has a talent related to killing people as in the Ultimate Assassin yet she still went on to survive the killing game. However, unlike Genocide Jack, she ended up indirectly taking out some lives in this game as she [[KickTheDog gave the suicidal Ryoma a video showing he has zero loved ones in the outside world when he was looking for a reason to live causing him to ask somebody to kill him]] and shooting a poisonous arrow at Kokichi in which the sole reason why she wasn't found guilty of that murder was because Kokichi and Kaito willingly agreed for the latter to kill the former before the poison got to him. That said, her true talent was outed by Kokichi after Ryoma's death and her boyfriend died after the whole entire Kokichi incident so she ended up some LaserGuidedKarma to her.]]
25th Jan '17 1:35:23 PM MummyGaGa
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** [[spoiler: Maki]] from VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3 could also be one. Like [[spoiler: Genocide Jack, she has a talent related to killing people as in the Ultimate Assassin yet she still went on to survive the killing game. However, unlike Genocide Jack, she ended up indirectly taking out some lives in this game as she [[KickTheDog gave the suicidal Ryoma a video showing he has zero loved ones in the outside world when he was looking for a reason to live causing him to ask somebody to kill him]] and shooting a poisonous arrow at Kokichi in which the sole reason why she wasn't found guilty of that murder was because Kokichi and Kaito willingly agreed for the latter to kill the former before the poison got to him. That said, her true talent was outed by Kokichi after Ryoma's death and her boyfriend died after the whole entire Kokichi incident so she ended up some LaserGuidedKarma to her.]]
10th Jan '17 3:21:02 PM Onlythrice
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* ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'': [[spoiler: Genocide Jack]] is a SerialKiller who ended up killing many lives of "cute boys". However, despite that, she went on to survive the events of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]] as she did not kill anybody nor did she ever get killed (though PragmaticVillainy ended up having a case for the former).

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* ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'': [[spoiler: Genocide Jack]] is a SerialKiller who ended up killing many taking the lives of many "cute boys". However, despite that, she went on to survive the events of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]] as she did not kill anybody nor did she ever get killed (though PragmaticVillainy ended up having a case for the former).
9th Jan '17 10:40:25 PM MyFinalEdits
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* While the Warriors of Hope from the Franchise/DanganRonpa franchise has very sad backstories, they are able to get away from mass murdering a bunch of adults. However, this is slightly {{Justified}} given how [[spoiler: they are in the middle of an apocalypse so punishing them may be very hard and they may useful against any enemies of [[LaResistance Future Foundation]] including Monaca]].
** Also, [[spoiler: Genocide Jack]] is a SerialKiller who ended up killing many lives of "cute boys". However, despite that, she went on to survive the events of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]] as she did not kill anybody nor did she ever get killed (though PragmaticVillainy ended up having a case for the former).

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* While the Warriors of Hope from the Franchise/DanganRonpa franchise has very sad backstories, they are able to get away from mass murdering a bunch of adults. However, this is slightly {{Justified}} given how [[spoiler: they are in the middle of an apocalypse so punishing them may be very hard and they may useful against any enemies of [[LaResistance Future Foundation]] including Monaca]].
** Also,
''Franchise/DanganRonpa'': [[spoiler: Genocide Jack]] is a SerialKiller who ended up killing many lives of "cute boys". However, despite that, she went on to survive the events of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]] as she did not kill anybody nor did she ever get killed (though PragmaticVillainy ended up having a case for the former).
9th Jan '17 5:29:15 PM MummyGaGa
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** Also, [[spoiler: Genocide Jack]] is a SerialKiller who ended up killing many lives of "cute boys". However, despite that, she went on to survive the events of [[VisualNovel/DanganRonpa the first game]] as she did not kill anybody nor did she ever get killed (though PragmaticVillainy ended up having a case for the former).
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