History KarmaHoudini / VideoGames

20th Jun '17 10:51:09 PM AkoSiKuya23
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* Both [[spoiler: Belda and Lucchini]] in {{VideoGame/The Witch and The Hundred Knight}} gets to continue living their lives scot-free in the "Bad" ending. [[spoiler: Belda]] placed a dog curse on Visco, who in turned killed her to save Metallia instead of lifting the curse. [[spoiler: Belda]] ironically gets revived by Metallia's actions in chapter 12 and does not even recall the events of chapter 11. [[spoiler: Lucchini]] killed his entire village people and even his own father, who aided him in killing lots more people, including [[spoiler: Visco]] in Amataya Kingdom which ultimately cause a great deal of hell for Metallia in her quest to [[spoiler: revive Visco]] in chapter 12 & 13. Though depending on how one may interpret Lucchini, it may be considered CruelMercy since Metallia didn't grant his death wish and no longer has any friends or family to turn to.

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* Both [[spoiler: Belda and Lucchini]] in {{VideoGame/The Witch and The Hundred Knight}} VideoGame/TheWitchandTheHundredKnight gets to continue living their lives scot-free in the "Bad" ending. [[spoiler: Belda]] placed a dog curse on Visco, who in turned killed her to save Metallia instead of lifting the curse. [[spoiler: Belda]] ironically gets revived by Metallia's actions in chapter 12 and does not even recall the events of chapter 11.11, meaning that unlike many of the other characters who appeared in that chapter and have become better people, she has not changed ''at all''. [[spoiler: Lucchini]] killed his entire village people and even his own father, who aided him in killing lots more people, including [[spoiler: Visco]] in Amataya Kingdom which ultimately cause a great deal of hell for Metallia in her quest to [[spoiler: revive Visco]] in chapter 12 & 13. Though depending on how one may interpret Lucchini, it may be considered CruelMercy since Metallia didn't grant his death wish and no longer has any friends or family to turn to.
31st May '17 11:47:12 AM Onlythrice
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* ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'':
** [[spoiler:Eleanor]] in ''A New Frontier''. [[spoiler:When the group plans to rescue David from being lynched by [[BigBad Joan]], she snitches on them which leads to Joan killing either Ava or Tripp and Kate accidentally destroying Richmond's walls in an explosion. Her only explanation is that she was "triaging a bad situation" and when [[PlayerCharacter Javier]] confronts her about this she has the nerve to [[NeverMyFault blame him]] for Richmond being overrun with walkers while asking for his forgiveness. The player can choose to forgive her or not, but there is no opportunity for revenge whatsoever.]]
** This can potentially happen with [[spoiler:[[BigBad Joan]]]] in ''A New Frontier''. [[spoiler: After killing his niece, one of his friends, and attempting to lynch his brother, she and Clint offer Javier's group a chance to leave peacefully. If the player doesn't shoot her in the face the first chance they get, Joan will escape during the walker invasion and it'll be the last time the player sees her.]]
29th May '17 10:23:25 PM Mesmiranda
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** To be completely fair: Isabela has been looking for the sacred relic since the beginning of Act 1, and seems genuinely baffled when questioned about its importance (i.e. she didn't know it was that important when she stole it, otherwise it's very likely she would've steered clear). The Qunari, meanwhile, do plenty of butting heads with the local establishment, including [[SinisterMinister Sister Petrice]], and the conflict kicks off because of tensions over two Elven fugitives-turned-converts. So--[[GrayAndGrayMorality in a familiar theme of the game]]--while Isabela's actions aren't great, the Qunari bear a much larger portion of the blame. [[spoiler: In fact, it's entirely possible to make the Arishok himself a Karma Houdini by turning Isabela over to his custody. He and the Qunari leave, their destruction and death completely unaddressed, and Hawke gets named Champion with only a minor hit to companion approval. It's only in ''Inquisition'' that the Arishok gets his off-screen comeuppance: chewed out and replaced by his superiors, with the Qunari disavowing his actions.]]
28th May '17 1:41:54 AM sayaleviathan
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* ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSeries'': While it's true that canonically GDI won in three Tiberium wars, [[MagnificientBastard Kane]] evades death, outliving his enemies (such as [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRenegade Havoc]] and [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSun [=McNeil=]]]) and his Brotherhood of Nod continues to stand and wait for his return. It seems he has a XanatosGambit where he had forced GDI to fire the Ion Cannon at Temple Prime, causing a liquid Tiberium explosion that attracted the Scrin to Earth, had the player commander use the Liquid Tiberium Bomb which caused the Tiberium infestation to worsen so he can have access to the Scrin technology including the portal tower and had given the Tacticus to GDI so they can contain the Tiberium. All of this is for his plan for ascension which he achieved at the end of ''VideoGame/TiberianTwilight'' in both sides and with all the Tiberium contained, he's seen as the Messiah and never gets punished for starting four of the bloodiest wars in history.

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* ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSeries'': While it's true that canonically GDI won in three Tiberium wars, [[MagnificientBastard [[MagnificentBastard Kane]] evades death, outliving his enemies (such as [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRenegade Havoc]] and [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSun [=McNeil=]]]) and his Brotherhood of Nod continues to stand and wait for his return. It seems he has a XanatosGambit where he had forced GDI to fire the Ion Cannon at Temple Prime, causing a liquid Tiberium explosion that attracted the Scrin to Earth, had the player commander use the Liquid Tiberium Bomb which caused the Tiberium infestation to worsen so he can have access to the Scrin technology including the portal tower and had given the Tacticus to GDI so they can contain the Tiberium. All of this is for his plan for ascension which he achieved at the end of ''VideoGame/TiberianTwilight'' ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianTwilight'' in both sides and with all the Tiberium contained, he's seen as the Messiah and never gets punished for starting four of the bloodiest wars in history.
8th May '17 7:59:04 PM Onlythrice
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** The Witch of Lynx Crag of the "A Knight's Tale" sidequest in ''Blood And Wine''. Eons ago a knight came to convince her to lift a drought, and she seduced him in the process. When he went to return to his lover, [[WomanScorned she killed him]] and his lover's grief caused her spirit to be trapped in a tree. The witch knew how to lift the curse but never divulged the information out of spite until Geralt gets on one knee and begs her. If Geralt strongarms the witch into helping instead, she causes the woman's ghost to kill the innocent lumberjack who hired him. At no point can she be killed for causing this whole ordeal, and if Geralt gets her to help she uses magic to vanish afterward so he can't come after her.
2nd Apr '17 12:30:49 PM nombretomado
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* Invoked in ''{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin''. [[spoiler:Jun became Joker due to his anger over the perceived notion that Tatsuya and co never received punishment for almost killing his close friend Maya years ago.]]

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* Invoked in ''{{Persona 2}}: ''VideoGame/Persona2: Innocent Sin''. [[spoiler:Jun became Joker due to his anger over the perceived notion that Tatsuya and co never received punishment for almost killing his close friend Maya years ago.]]
14th Mar '17 8:07:01 PM Onlythrice
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** [[spoiler: Gaunter O'Dimm]] in the ''Hearts of Stone'' expansion. He's an exceptionally powerful and sadistic demon that's been tormenting people for millennia, convincing them to make [[DealWithTheDevil deals with him]] that end with him taking their souls. He casually murders a man [[DisproportionateRetribution for offering Geralt a drink when they were trying to talk]], and when a scholar tried to learn more about him he blinded the man and trapped him in his own basement for a year before finally killing him. He's very heavily implied to be the series' equivalent of Satan, and the most Geralt can do is temporarily banish him.

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** [[spoiler: Gaunter O'Dimm]] in the ''Hearts of Stone'' expansion. He's an exceptionally powerful and sadistic demon that's been tormenting people for millennia, convincing them to make [[DealWithTheDevil deals with him]] that end with him taking their souls. He casually murders a man [[DisproportionateRetribution for offering Geralt a drink when they were trying to talk]], and when a scholar tried to learn more about him he blinded the man and trapped him in his own basement for a year before finally killing him. He's very heavily implied to be the [[SatanicArchetype series' equivalent of Satan, Satan]], and the most Geralt can do is temporarily banish him.
27th Feb '17 5:57:45 AM THEKHAN
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** Sylvanas. She's under suspicion for the wrathgate (we don't know how much she knew), invaded Gilneas, nuked Southshore, waged a campaign of genocide on the Humans, manipulated the Horde (to join them in the first place in order to use them as tools), set herself up as an object of cult worship, employed the Val'kyr (which seems to be a case of "Even Chaos has standards" when seen by pragmatic Death Knight Thassarian), resurrected those who she killed against their will, shot and killed Liam Greymane, attempted to steal the Scythe of Elune to enslave the Worgen and make even more to make an even BIGGER army to do her bidding, and made some kind of deal with the devil to get the Val'kyr in the first place. The closest she got to any kind of punishment was Lor'thermar [[ImpliedDeathThreat threatening her if she raised the Horde's dead as Forsaken]], stating [[MurderByInaction he'd leave her to the Alliance if she tried it on their dead]] and [[WhatTheHellHero calling her out on several of her actions in Mists of Pandaria]]. [[spoiler: In Legion, after retreating from the Broken Shore on Vol'jin's death, she ends up being named the next Warchief of the Horde on Vol'jin's recommendation, despite said retreat costed Varian's life, and rather than fighting the Burning Legion, she ends up plotting to further expand her Val'kyr collection... but Greymane quickly put an end to that, leaving her in very short or no supplies of Val'kyrs... but it still didn't quite deter her yet.]]

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** Sylvanas. Even before Wrathgate, she kept human prisoners in cages, to be tortured, experimented on, vivisected and lobotomized to be slaves and plague material. Her Royal Apotechary kidnapped innocents to experiment upon under her watch, and keep tortured human slaves for fun and science. She's under suspicion for the wrathgate (we don't know how much she knew), knew, but it is likely she turned a blind eye), invaded Gilneas, nuked Southshore, waged a campaign of genocide genocide, massacre and torture on the Humans, manipulated the Horde (to join them in the first place in order to use them as tools), set herself up as an object of cult worship, employed the Val'kyr (which seems to be a case of "Even Chaos has standards" when seen by pragmatic Death Knight Thassarian), resurrected those who she killed against their will, shot and killed Liam Greymane, attempted to steal the Scythe of Elune to enslave the Worgen and make even more to make an even BIGGER army to do her bidding, and made some kind of deal with the devil to get the Val'kyr in the first place. The closest she got to any kind of punishment was Lor'thermar [[ImpliedDeathThreat threatening her if she raised the Horde's dead as Forsaken]], stating [[MurderByInaction he'd leave her to the Alliance if she tried it on their dead]] and [[WhatTheHellHero calling her out on several of her actions in Mists of Pandaria]]. [[spoiler: In Legion, after retreating from the Broken Shore on Vol'jin's death, she ends up being named the next Warchief of the Horde on Vol'jin's recommendation, despite said retreat costed Varian's life, and rather than fighting the Burning Legion, she ends up plotting to further expand her Val'kyr collection... but Greymane quickly put an end to that, leaving her in very short or no supplies of Val'kyrs... but it still didn't quite deter her yet.]]
25th Feb '17 10:30:25 PM BigKlingy
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** Ardos from ''VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness'', on the other hand, is the big one. His father, Greevil, chose to side with Eldes, the other son, and accept arrest instead of blowing up Citadark Isle ''with you on it''. Even after this, Ardos appears as an opponent in the Orre Colosseum and makes clear his intent to rebuild Cipher; both by giving Michael a warning that he will be watched and branding him as "Cipher's Biggest Enemy". This is the guy who could have gotten away, killed you and the rest of his group from the safety of his chopper, and reconstructed Cipher for absolute dominion in the following months, and has likely backed up all the vital data on Cipher's Shadow Pokemon research. [[FridgeHorror Let that sink in for a second]].

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** Ardos from ''VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness'', on the other hand, is the big one. His father, Greevil, chose to side with Eldes, the other son, and accept arrest instead of blowing up Citadark Isle ''with you on it''. Even after this, Ardos appears as an opponent in the Orre Colosseum and makes clear his intent to rebuild Cipher; both by giving Michael a warning that he will be watched and branding him as "Cipher's Biggest Enemy". This is the guy who could have gotten away, killed you and the rest of his group from the safety of his chopper, and reconstructed Cipher for absolute dominion in the following months, and has likely backed up all the vital data on Cipher's Shadow Pokemon research. [[FridgeHorror Let It's very likely he was intended to be the BigBad of [[SequelHook a sequel]] that sink in for a second]].never came to be.
12th Feb '17 8:55:27 PM LordYAM
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* [[CorruptCop George Sewell]] in ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour''. [[spoiler:He's the cause of the entire events behind the game, and directly responsible for Frank Coleridge's death (Whether he did it himself or convinced Murphy to do it is up to the player's actions). He's also responsible for all manner of illegal and corrupt activities with the prisoners, but in the end he only gets his comeuppance in one ending, ''which isn't even the best ending to get''. In the end, as far as anyone except Anne and Murphy knows, Murphy killed Frank for no reason and Sewell is completely innocent, and in three of the four endings, he walks away scot-free.]]

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* [[CorruptCop George Sewell]] in ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour''. [[spoiler:He's the cause of the entire events behind the game, and directly responsible for Frank Coleridge's death (Whether he did it himself or convinced Murphy to do it is up to the player's actions). He's also responsible for all manner of illegal and corrupt activities with the prisoners, but in the end he only gets his comeuppance in one ending, ''which isn't even the best ending to get''. In the end, as far as anyone except Anne and Murphy knows, Murphy killed Frank for no reason and Sewell is completely innocent, and in three of the four endings, he walks away scot-free.]]]] Subverted in the canon ending, where Anne kills him.



* Taken to a meta-level: Lord Scourge in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic.'' [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Pureblood Sith]] that answers only to the OmnicidalManiac Emperor. He ''literally'' stabbed the [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Jedi Exile]] InTheBack, got [[BadassAdorable T3-M4]] turned to ashes, and betrayed ''Revan'' and got him sent to Malestrom Prison for [[AndIMustScream 300 years of torture]] as the Emperor's pet chew toy (driving him genocidally insane in the process). But EvenEvilHasStandards, and Scourge doesn't want the Emperor devouring the whole galaxy [[TheTick because that's where he keeps all his stuff]]. So, he merrily invites himself on the Jedi Knight's boat, sourly disapproving of everything the Light sided Knight does, and [[TheStarscream helps the Knight kill his boss]]. [[HeelFaceTurn Does he repent?]] Does he face ''any'' fallout for what he did to the protagonists of the last two games? Heck, no! Does he merrily get away with it? Heck, yeah! The Knight apparently doesn't even mind that Scourge keeps trying to recruit them to the DarkSide. And just to put the cherry on the Karma Houdini sundae? He saunters up to ''Revan and Bastila's decendant'' to accept a Republic heroism reward! (Satele is pretty disgusted at having to give it to the louse.)

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* Taken to a meta-level: Lord Scourge in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic.'' [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Pureblood Sith]] that answers only to the OmnicidalManiac Emperor. He ''literally'' stabbed the [[KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Jedi Exile]] InTheBack, got [[BadassAdorable T3-M4]] turned to ashes, and betrayed ''Revan'' and got him sent to Malestrom Prison for [[AndIMustScream 300 years of torture]] as the Emperor's pet chew toy (driving him genocidally insane in the process). But EvenEvilHasStandards, and Scourge doesn't want the Emperor devouring the whole galaxy [[TheTick because that's where he keeps all his stuff]]. So, he merrily invites himself on the Jedi Knight's boat, sourly disapproving of everything the Light sided Knight does, and [[TheStarscream helps the Knight kill his boss]]. [[HeelFaceTurn Does he repent?]] Does he face ''any'' fallout for what he did to the protagonists of the last two games? Heck, no! Does he merrily get away with it? Heck, yeah! The Knight apparently doesn't even mind that Scourge keeps trying to recruit them to the DarkSide. And just to put the cherry on the Karma Houdini sundae? He saunters up to ''Revan and Bastila's decendant'' to accept a Republic heroism reward! (Satele is pretty disgusted at having to give it to the louse.) Interestingly, he does express regret when the Hero of Tython talks about it; he admits he liked them but felt that stopping the Emperor was more important.
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