History InformedAbility / VideoGames

21st Aug '16 6:02:40 PM pinkdalek
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** Cloud's described as being a highly intelligent strategist and leader who is admired by the other Cosmos warriors for his brilliant mind. He's never actually shown commanding the others, at most serving as a tiebreaker in a group decision; he spends most of his time being led into obvious traps; and his most heroic actions are made on the spur of the moment because he just feels like it. The 'big brother' of the ''FF'' heroes comes across as being a lot less capable than, say, Firion. However, it's possible Cloud's dislike of his good reputation comes from the fact that he ''knows'' he's not as good as he's made out to be.
11th Aug '16 12:55:57 PM PurpleAlert
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* VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition: A PC who sides with the mages gets thrown into a [[spoiler:BadFuture]] where the mysterious "Elder One" is TheDreaded, and one character [[spoiler:Fiona]] claims he is "even more powerful than the [[{{God}} Maker]]." However, in the game proper he is never shown to be more than an EvilIsHammy SmugSnake whose plans are easily discovered and thwarted time and time again, and who gets thrown around like a rag doll in every appearance he makes. Why were all these people afraid of him, again?
23rd Jun '16 2:45:38 AM NNinja
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** Godot apparently can do an excellent impression of a previous witness, but seeing as the games are text based all that happens is that his LeitMotif changes.
*** Godot gets to perform impressions of ''two'' witnesses. When he's impressioning a female witness, the speaking-beeps switch to the higher pitched female ones too.
*** Godot is constantly feared by police and other prosecutors alike for being a powerful attorney. ''He's the least successful prosecutor in the entire series.'' He never wins a case, both on-screen or off, where as Winston Payne is at least noted for being undefeated up until his trial against Mia. It's justified only so far [[spoiler:with him being a defense attorney.]]

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** Godot apparently can do an excellent impression of a previous witness, but seeing as the games are text based all that happens is that his LeitMotif changes.
*** Godot gets to perform impressions of ''two'' witnesses. When he's impressioning a female witness, the speaking-beeps switch to the higher pitched female ones too.
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Godot is constantly feared by police and other prosecutors alike for being a powerful attorney. ''He's the least successful prosecutor in the entire series.'' He never wins a case, both on-screen or off, where as Winston Payne is at least noted for being undefeated up until his trial against Mia. It's justified only so far [[spoiler:with him being a defense attorney.]]



** Averted in a clever way with Lamiroir in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''. She is considered a world-class singer, with an angelic voice. How do they put this on a DS game? They don't record vocals, and instead give her voice as a musical tone. The effect works, her voice sounds brilliant, but it isn't quite ShowDontTell, as it's clear each of those tones represents her voice.
** ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' does play this trope straight in regards to Kristoph Gavin. He's supposedly an excellent defense attorney, but he's only shown defending in one case, and only as co-counsel at that.

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** Averted in a clever way with Lamiroir in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''. She is considered a world-class singer, with an angelic voice. How do they put this on a DS game? They don't record vocals, and instead give her voice as a musical tone. The effect works, her voice sounds brilliant, but it isn't quite ShowDontTell, as it's clear each of those tones represents her voice.
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In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' does play this trope straight in regards to Kristoph Gavin. He's Gavin is supposedly an excellent defense attorney, but he's only shown defending in one case, and only as co-counsel at that.
16th Jun '16 3:20:11 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''VideoGame/Persona4'': [[KidDetective Naoto Shirogane]] has an in-universe reputation as a "genius detective," but really does no better at solving the case than the rest of the Investigation Team or even the Police Department. Her first interaction with the Investigation Team, for example, is to blatantly insult them by calling their investigation a "game", thereby ensuring that three of the known victims, her ''best leads'', will refuse to cooperate with her.
1st Jun '16 8:09:27 AM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) merely {{Retcon}}s simply turning him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall against him. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow managed to manipulate as many people as he has.

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) merely {{Retcon}}s simply turning him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established well-established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall against him.IdiotBall. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow managed to manipulate as many people as he has.
1st Jun '16 8:08:25 AM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': BiggerBad Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) merely {{Retcon}}s simply turning him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall against him. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow managed to manipulate as many people as he has.

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': BiggerBad Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) merely {{Retcon}}s simply turning him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall against him. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow managed to manipulate as many people as he has.
1st Jun '16 8:08:08 AM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': BiggerBad Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) simply {{Retcon}}s that have just turned him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall in his presence until it's been too late. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow been able to manipulate as many people as he has.

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': BiggerBad Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) simply merely {{Retcon}}s that have just turned simply turning him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall in his presence until it's been too late. against him. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow been able managed to manipulate as many people as he has.
30th May '16 3:43:20 PM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': BiggerBad Master Xehanort is said to be "a devious tactician", against whom "there is nothing {you} can do that he will not, to some extent, be able to predict". However, it should be noted that almost all of his successes so far have been: (A) simply {{Retcon}}s that have just turned him into a GreaterScopeVillain over other villains' established accomplishments, and/or (B) largely dependent on the good guys repeatedly holding the IdiotBall in his presence until it's been too late. His ObviouslyEvil attributes only make it even more glaring that he's somehow been able to manipulate as many people as he has.
30th May '16 3:21:28 PM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Princess Peach is said in the first game to have magical powers that can reverse Bowser's curse. This is never shown, [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and is not mentioned again past this game]] [[note]]That being said, she does prove to be something of an impressive WhiteMage in several RPGs, though those are all side games instead of main platformers.[[/note]].

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Princess Peach is said in the first game to have magical powers that can reverse Bowser's curse. This is never shown, [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and is not mentioned again past this game]] [[note]]That being said, she does prove to be something of an impressive WhiteMage in several RPGs, [=RPGs=], though those are all side games instead of main platformers.[[/note]].
30th May '16 3:07:57 PM Peridonyx
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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Princess Peach is said in the first game to have magical powers that can reverse Bowser's curse. This is never shown, [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and is not mentioned again past this game]].

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* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Princess Peach is said in the first game to have magical powers that can reverse Bowser's curse. This is never shown, [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and is not mentioned again past this game]].game]] [[note]]That being said, she does prove to be something of an impressive WhiteMage in several RPGs, though those are all side games instead of main platformers.[[/note]].



*** Godot is constantly feared by police and other prosecutors alike for being a powerful attorney. ''He's the least successful prosecutor in the entire series.'' He never wins a case, both on-screen or off, where as Winston Payne is at least noted for being undefeated up until his trial against Mia. It's justified only so far [[spoiler:with him being a defense attorney,]] but he uses tricks and plots that revoke that.

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*** Godot is constantly feared by police and other prosecutors alike for being a powerful attorney. ''He's the least successful prosecutor in the entire series.'' He never wins a case, both on-screen or off, where as Winston Payne is at least noted for being undefeated up until his trial against Mia. It's justified only so far [[spoiler:with him being a defense attorney,]] but he uses tricks and plots that revoke that.attorney.]]
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