History InformedAbility / VideoGames

1st May '16 3:43:21 PM KingLyger
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* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV,'' Cecil, the main character, is described as a Dark Knight who later goes on a mission of atonement to repent for his "blood-drenched past". However, from the very first time you play him, he comes across as considerate, merciful, optimistic, naive, etc. It's not exactly a believable Heel/Face turn when you start out as a Face to begin with. The first few minutes of the game see him overseeing the slaughter of innocent villagers. Sure he hates every second of it, but from the get-go we're presented with at least one thing he could realistically wish to atone for. Since Cecil was never presented as evil in the first place, it was not a case of heel/face turn, and more a case of him finally standing up for himself. As for why he's a dark knight, the lore of the series (the main game, its sequel, and Dissidia) clearly paint this as a case of DarkIsNotEvil.

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* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV,'' Cecil, the main character, Cecil is described as a Dark Knight who later goes on a mission of atonement to repent for his "blood-drenched past". However, from the very first time you play him, he comes across as [[TheHero considerate, merciful, optimistic, naive, etc. and compassionate]]. An early cinematic even has Cecil lament that he only did the things he did because [[MyMasterRightOrWrong he's a coward who couldn't disobey his king]]. It's not exactly a believable Heel/Face turn HeelFaceTurn when you start out as a Face to begin with. KnightInShiningArmor. The first few minutes of the game see him Cecil overseeing the slaughter of innocent villagers. Sure villagers, which is pretty bad, but he clearly hates every second of it, but from the get-go it. Even so, we're presented with at least one thing he could realistically wish to atone for. Since Cecil was never presented as evil in the first place, it was not a case of heel/face turn, and more a case of him finally standing up for himself. As for why he's a dark knight, the lore of the series (the main game, its sequel, and Dissidia) clearly paint this as a case of DarkIsNotEvil.
12th Apr '16 12:44:18 PM Menarker
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** Ghost-type attacks in Generation I were supposed to be super-effective against Psychic-type Pokémon but possibly due to a programming oversight, Ghost-type moves cannot hit Psychics, leaving a major hole in the ElementalRockPaperScissors formula and resulting in the Psychic type becoming a major GameBreaker until later generations fixed it. By sheer coincidence, the same is true of the anime's first season; Ash brings a Haunter to fight Sabrina's Kadabra because Ghost hurts Psychic. But the Haunter in question never uses any Ghost attacks, instead using humor to make Kadabra laugh.

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** Ghost-type attacks in Generation I were supposed to be super-effective against Psychic-type Pokémon but possibly due to a programming oversight, Ghost-type moves cannot hit Psychics, leaving a major hole in the ElementalRockPaperScissors formula and resulting in the Psychic type becoming a major GameBreaker until later generations fixed it. By sheer coincidence, the same is true of the anime's first season; Ash brings a Haunter to fight Sabrina's Kadabra because Ghost hurts Psychic. But the Haunter in question never uses any Ghost attacks, instead using humor to make the opponent Sabrina to laugh nigh uncontrollably, causing the psychic-linked Kadabra laugh.to laugh just as hard, essentially causing a forfeit.
22nd Mar '16 7:06:08 PM drbreakfast
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* In ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'', each of the main characters possess and represent one of the three Triforces, with Princess Zelda herself possessing the Triforce of Wisdom. While she's certainly not ''un''intelligent, she never really displays the sort of wits that would back up such a bold description, whereas Link and Ganondorf live up to their respective Triforces (Courage and Power) much more overtly.
20th Mar '16 10:22:36 AM Patcher
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* In ''[[VideoGame/SoulSeries Soul Calibur IV]]'', Angol Fear, the "King of Terror" is said to weigh 1.44 tons, and be 14800 years old. Given that, you would think that she would be super strong, unjugglable, and more of a threat than all of the fighters in the game considering the knowledge she should have amassed. The character is Seon Mina. Not Shin Seong Mina or Seong Mina with a speed boost or a health boost or extra combos or power armor or juggle resistance or any discernible advantage whatsoever. It's just Seong Mina. Actually a little worse, because her weapon is slightly shorter than Seong Mina's, meaning that in a scant few cases, she doesn't have the range that Mina has.

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* In ''[[VideoGame/SoulSeries Soul Calibur IV]]'', Angol Fear, the "King of Terror" is said to weigh 1.44 tons, and be 14800 years old. Given that, you would think that she would be super strong, unjugglable, and more of a threat than all of the fighters in the game considering the knowledge she should have amassed. The character is Seon Seong Mina. Not Shin Seong Mina or Seong Mina with a speed boost or a health boost or extra combos or power armor or juggle resistance or any discernible advantage whatsoever. It's just Seong Mina. Actually a little worse, because her weapon is slightly shorter than Seong Mina's, meaning that in a scant few cases, she doesn't have the range that Mina has.
9th Mar '16 12:12:39 AM Gravityman
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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' your two rivals are the ditzy Bianca who admits she isn't very good and the analytical Cheren who is focused on nothing but becoming the champion. In your fights with them however, while Bianca isn't a particularlly hard fight, she is still harder than Cheren who has an abysmal set up for his team.[[note]]His two Pokémon that differ from hers are both physical based glass cannons. Knowing this he decides that both should use sets that depend on them surviving an attack o and the second should run a set with no physical moves. While he tries to give one a set up so he will always critical, he doesn't actually complete it and deletes the move needed to pull it off by the time he has put the other pieces together.[[/note]]

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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' your two rivals are the ditzy Bianca who admits she isn't very good and the analytical Cheren who is focused on nothing but becoming the champion. In your fights with them however, while Bianca isn't a particularlly hard fight, she is still harder than Cheren who has an abysmal set up for his team.[[note]]His two Pokémon that differ from hers are both physical based glass cannons. Knowing this he decides that both should use sets that depend on them surviving an attack o and the second should run a set with no physical moves. While he tries to give one a set up so he will always critical, he doesn't actually complete it and deletes the move needed to pull it off by the time he has put the other pieces together.[[/note]]
6th Feb '16 12:56:11 AM Tuckerscreator
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** Gilgamesh, the BigBad of one route and TheDragon of another apparently has such a high charisma (A+ rank) that his goes beyond "Can be said to have achieved the greatest level of popularity as a human being" (which is A rank). However, you never, never see him doing anything remotely charismatic. Quite the opposite, actually. He spends his whole time being a {{Jerkass}}, SmugSnake, SocialDarwinist who [[LovingForce tries to rape]] [[LadyOfWar Saber.]]

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** Gilgamesh, the BigBad of one route and TheDragon of another apparently has such a high charisma (A+ rank) that his goes beyond "Can be said to have achieved the greatest level of popularity as a human being" (which is A rank). However, you never, never see him doing anything remotely charismatic. Quite the opposite, actually. He spends his whole time being a {{Jerkass}}, SmugSnake, SocialDarwinist who [[LovingForce tries to rape]] [[LadyOfWar rape Saber.]]
6th Feb '16 12:55:21 AM Tuckerscreator
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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', Gilgamesh, the BigBad of one route and TheDragon of another apparently has such a high charisma (A+ rank) that his goes beyond "Can be said to have achieved the greatest level of popularity as a human being" (which is A rank). However, you never, never see him doing anything remotely charismatic. Quite the opposite, actually. He spends his whole time being a JerkAss, SmugSnake, SocialDarwinist who [[LovingForce tries to rape]] [[LadyOfWar Saber.]]

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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''
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Gilgamesh, the BigBad of one route and TheDragon of another apparently has such a high charisma (A+ rank) that his goes beyond "Can be said to have achieved the greatest level of popularity as a human being" (which is A rank). However, you never, never see him doing anything remotely charismatic. Quite the opposite, actually. He spends his whole time being a JerkAss, {{Jerkass}}, SmugSnake, SocialDarwinist who [[LovingForce tries to rape]] [[LadyOfWar Saber.]]]]
** Saber is frequently referred to as the strongest of all the Servants. In practice, though, she tends to be fairly average. While some of this can be blamed on her Master Shirou not being the brightest bulb, she's roughly even with other Servants like Lancer and Assassin (the latter of which isn't even a true Servant), and in one route is even overpowered by a mortal schoolteacher and held hostage. Rather than the strongest Servant, she is more akin to the one most protected by PlotArmor.
6th Feb '16 12:12:34 AM Tyrathius
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': Supposedly Anora is a forceful presence and would be the savvier queen but she has already been the Queen for five years. She couldn't dissuade her husband from his campaign at Ostagar even though her and her father believed it to be ill-advised and she couldn't stop Loghain from going down the path he walked as regent. Alistair at least stood up to Loghain and will (if chosen) take him down in a duel.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': Supposedly Anora is a forceful presence and would be the savvier queen but she has already been the Queen for five years. She couldn't dissuade her husband from his campaign at Ostagar even though her and her father believed it to be ill-advised and she couldn't stop Loghain from going down the path he walked as regent. Alistair at least stood up to Loghain and will (if chosen) take him down in a duel. It's also somewhat hurt by the epilogue slides which confirm that Alistair does end up being a good King. Granted, the sequels have a tendency to [[RetCon ignore the epilogue when it suits them]], but there's nothing in them to suggest that Alistair isn't a good King or that Anora is more effective if you choose her.
17th Jan '16 6:09:08 PM nombretomado
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* In ''StarControl 3'', you are told over and over again how powerful The Eternal Ones are, and yet, you never actually fight them, even when you get to the end, expecting to at least be able to fight the {{big bad}}dy in TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Instead, you meet up with [[TheDragon the secretary]] of The Eternal Ones, who lost to the last secretary, and somehow have never been defeated before. Of course, this is found out after you [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJH9myI05A defeat them with a single ship and no losses.]]

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* In ''StarControl 3'', ''VideoGame/StarControl3'', you are told over and over again how powerful The Eternal Ones are, and yet, you never actually fight them, even when you get to the end, expecting to at least be able to fight the {{big bad}}dy in TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Instead, you meet up with [[TheDragon the secretary]] of The Eternal Ones, who lost to the last secretary, and somehow have never been defeated before. Of course, this is found out after you [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJH9myI05A defeat them with a single ship and no losses.]]
9th Jan '16 1:30:23 PM PurpleAlert
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* To quote an LP of the ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'': "In case you haven't noticed, John is even worse at psychiatry than Trilby is at stealing. [[spoiler:There is not a single instance in the entire series of a protagonist actually demonstrating a skill we're supposed to believe they have.]]" Note that this is referring to the ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'' series, which doesn't include ''Trilby: VideoGame/TheArtOfTheft''.

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* To quote an LP of the ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'': "In case you haven't noticed, John is even worse at psychiatry than Trilby is at stealing. [[spoiler:There is not a single instance in the entire series of a protagonist actually demonstrating a skill we're supposed to believe they have.]]" Note that this is referring to the ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'' series, which doesn't include ''Trilby: VideoGame/TheArtOfTheft''. Trilby's case is an especially unfortunate one, in that we get to see him ''break into'' quite a few places and things in an effort to steal stuff, it's just that there's never anything in those places and things for him to take. The one time he could have and didn't, the item in question is under an annoyingly heavy glass bell jar and has no apparent monetary worth, so it wasn't worth the trouble.
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