History IDidWhatIHadToDo / LiveActionTV

18th Dec '17 9:32:04 PM JJHIL325
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** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma and prevent her from growing up as an orphan). It also acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.

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** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as child, because Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma and prevent her from growing up as an orphan). orphan. [[spoiler: In fact, when Geppetto confessed the truth in "Selfless, Brave, and True", Snow is '''''extremely pissed off''''' and punches him in the face for betraying her trust and depriving her of a chance to care for her daughter]]. It also acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning abandoned a young boy to fend for himself.
18th Dec '17 9:20:00 PM JJHIL325
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** The main plot has Snow White and the prince sending their newborn daughter through a portal to another world, to help her escape the Dark Curse. While she grows up into TheChosenOne and [[spoiler: breaks the curse]], she still has huge amounts of resentment from having to grow up without parents. And she points out that if they hadn't done "what they had to do", she would have at least grown up happily. It's three seasons before she properly comes to terms with these issues.

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** The main plot has Snow White and the prince sending their newborn daughter through a portal to another world, to help her escape the Dark Curse. While she grows up into TheChosenOne and [[spoiler: breaks the curse]], she still has huge amounts of resentment from having to grow up without parents. And she She points out that if they hadn't done "what they had to do", she would have at least grown up happily.happily in a good family instead of being an unwanted foster kid. It's three seasons before she properly comes to terms with these issues.



** Rumpelstiltskin's master plan involved getting Regina to cast the Dark Curse so he could be reunited with his son. The show never hesitates to point out how he effectively ruined countless lives in order to get what he wanted - as honorable as his motives were. [[spoiler: When he's reunited with his son, the son]] reacts with disgust at what happened.
** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma). And in this case it acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.

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** Rumpelstiltskin's master plan involved getting Regina to cast the Dark Curse so he could be reunited with his son. The show never hesitates to point out how (as honorable as his motives were) he effectively ruined countless lives in order to get what he wanted - as honorable as his motives were.wanted. [[spoiler: When he's reunited with his son, the son]] reacts with disgust at what happened.
** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma). And in this case it Emma and prevent her from growing up as an orphan). It also acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.
27th Sep '17 2:35:17 PM pi4t
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** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma). And in this case it acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.

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** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma). And in this case it acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.himself.
** Played with in the season 6 episode ''Ill-Boding Patterns''. Rumplestiltskin namedrops the trope to justify [[spoiler: killing Beowulf]] to his son. However, although Rumple (deliberately) implied that this trope was in effect, [[spoiler: in fact the sentence was literally true - he had been magically commanded to kill Beowulf, and wanted to keep this secret from his son]].
24th Sep '17 8:24:51 PM SpocktorWho
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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': One of Castiel's major character flaws is his tendency towards this type of thinking, most notably when he [[spoiler:deals with Crowley and betrays just about everyone he knows, which leads to declaring himself God in his power-mad state and devastating Earth and Heaven]] because he believes it's the only way he can prevent [[spoiler:Raphael from winning the civil war in Heaven and restarting the Apocalypse]].
** The entire reasoning for Sam and Dean whenever they had to do something that is morally reprehensible.
** The ArcWords for several episodes of season nine were "I did what I had to." Used by multiple characters as justifications for multiple things, none of them good.

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One of Castiel's major character flaws is his tendency towards this type of thinking, most notably when he [[spoiler:deals with Crowley and betrays just about everyone he knows, which leads to declaring himself God in his power-mad state and devastating Earth and Heaven]] because he believes it's the only way he can prevent [[spoiler:Raphael from winning the civil war in Heaven and restarting the Apocalypse]].
** The entire reasoning for Sam and Dean whenever they had have to do something that is morally reprehensible.
** The ArcWords for several episodes of season nine were are "I did what I had to." Used by multiple characters as justifications for multiple things, none of them good.
12th Aug '17 12:58:41 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' reveals that Jaime Lannister killed the Mad King because the Mad King was trying to destroy King's Landing.

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reveals that Jaime Lannister killed the Mad King because the Mad King was trying to destroy King's Landing.


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** Jaime also justifies this as his reason for throwing Bran out the window, since it risked exposing him and Cersei, which could lead to their deaths and that of their children.
27th Jul '17 9:46:30 AM WhosAsking
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** Later during the Earth Civil War, Sheridan [[spoiler:used 30 Shadow-upgraded telepaths to disable 30 Pro-Clark ships in the final battle. Each ship had about 10,000 souls on board and one telepath, when activated, would merge with the ship's computer disabling it. With the ship out of commission, it meant that many would survive the battle. It might cost the telepath his or her life, and they have no choice because the mind was programmed to do this against their will, but Sheridan saw no other way to avoid a costly and bloody battle]]. He later tells a person giving that order was the hardest thing he has ever had to do.

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** Later during the Earth Civil War, Sheridan [[spoiler:used 30 Shadow-upgraded telepaths to disable 30 Pro-Clark ships in the final battle. Each ship had about 10,000 souls on board and one telepath, when activated, would merge with the ship's computer disabling it. With the ship out of commission, it meant that many would survive the battle. It might cost the telepath his or her life, and they have no choice because the mind was programmed to do this against their will, but Sheridan saw no other way to avoid a costly and bloody battle]]. He later tells a person Alfred Bester (high-ranking Psi Cop) giving that order was the hardest thing he has ever had to do.do, [[spoiler:and he took great pains to minimize the grief afterwards by only selecting "orphans": telepaths for whom family could not be located]].
20th Mar '17 6:58:43 PM Valiona
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** Ser Alliser Thorne says this about [[spoiler:killing Lord-Commander Jon Snow]], saying that he's fully aware that he committed an act of treason, but did it for the good of the Night's Watch itself. He even maintains this position [[spoiler:just before he and his surviving accomplices are hanged for the murder]].
26th Oct '16 5:49:28 AM StarTropes
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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a [[ProudScholarlyRaceGuy Proud Scholarly Race]] until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.

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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a [[ProudScholarlyRaceGuy Proud Scholarly Race]] ProudScholarRace until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.
26th Oct '16 5:47:41 AM StarTropes
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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a ProudScholarlyRace until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.

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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a ProudScholarlyRace [[ProudScholarlyRaceGuy Proud Scholarly Race]] until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.
26th Oct '16 5:46:29 AM StarTropes
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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a ProudScholarlyRace until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.
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