History IDidWhatIHadToDo / LiveActionTV

27th Sep '17 2:35:17 PM pi4t
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** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma). And in this case it acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.

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** Geppetto sent his son Pinocchio through a second portal in order to save him from possibly turning back to wood as the Dark Curse was cast. In this case doing what he 'has to do' is separating a mother from her child (as Snow could have used the second portal to go with Emma). And in this case it acts as a StartOfDarkness for Pinocchio, since his father is still abandoning a young boy to fend for himself.himself.
** Played with in the season 6 episode ''Ill-Boding Patterns''. Rumplestiltskin namedrops the trope to justify [[spoiler: killing Beowulf]] to his son. However, although Rumple (deliberately) implied that this trope was in effect, [[spoiler: in fact the sentence was literally true - he had been magically commanded to kill Beowulf, and wanted to keep this secret from his son]].
24th Sep '17 8:24:51 PM SpocktorWho
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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': One of Castiel's major character flaws is his tendency towards this type of thinking, most notably when he [[spoiler:deals with Crowley and betrays just about everyone he knows, which leads to declaring himself God in his power-mad state and devastating Earth and Heaven]] because he believes it's the only way he can prevent [[spoiler:Raphael from winning the civil war in Heaven and restarting the Apocalypse]].
** The entire reasoning for Sam and Dean whenever they had to do something that is morally reprehensible.
** The ArcWords for several episodes of season nine were "I did what I had to." Used by multiple characters as justifications for multiple things, none of them good.

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One of Castiel's major character flaws is his tendency towards this type of thinking, most notably when he [[spoiler:deals with Crowley and betrays just about everyone he knows, which leads to declaring himself God in his power-mad state and devastating Earth and Heaven]] because he believes it's the only way he can prevent [[spoiler:Raphael from winning the civil war in Heaven and restarting the Apocalypse]].
** The entire reasoning for Sam and Dean whenever they had have to do something that is morally reprehensible.
** The ArcWords for several episodes of season nine were are "I did what I had to." Used by multiple characters as justifications for multiple things, none of them good.
12th Aug '17 12:58:41 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' reveals that Jaime Lannister killed the Mad King because the Mad King was trying to destroy King's Landing.

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reveals that Jaime Lannister killed the Mad King because the Mad King was trying to destroy King's Landing.


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** Jaime also justifies this as his reason for throwing Bran out the window, since it risked exposing him and Cersei, which could lead to their deaths and that of their children.
27th Jul '17 9:46:30 AM WhosAsking
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** Later during the Earth Civil War, Sheridan [[spoiler:used 30 Shadow-upgraded telepaths to disable 30 Pro-Clark ships in the final battle. Each ship had about 10,000 souls on board and one telepath, when activated, would merge with the ship's computer disabling it. With the ship out of commission, it meant that many would survive the battle. It might cost the telepath his or her life, and they have no choice because the mind was programmed to do this against their will, but Sheridan saw no other way to avoid a costly and bloody battle]]. He later tells a person giving that order was the hardest thing he has ever had to do.

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** Later during the Earth Civil War, Sheridan [[spoiler:used 30 Shadow-upgraded telepaths to disable 30 Pro-Clark ships in the final battle. Each ship had about 10,000 souls on board and one telepath, when activated, would merge with the ship's computer disabling it. With the ship out of commission, it meant that many would survive the battle. It might cost the telepath his or her life, and they have no choice because the mind was programmed to do this against their will, but Sheridan saw no other way to avoid a costly and bloody battle]]. He later tells a person Alfred Bester (high-ranking Psi Cop) giving that order was the hardest thing he has ever had to do.do, [[spoiler:and he took great pains to minimize the grief afterwards by only selecting "orphans": telepaths for whom family could not be located]].
20th Mar '17 6:58:43 PM Valiona
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** Ser Alliser Thorne says this about [[spoiler:killing Lord-Commander Jon Snow]], saying that he's fully aware that he committed an act of treason, but did it for the good of the Night's Watch itself. He even maintains this position [[spoiler:just before he and his surviving accomplices are hanged for the murder]].
26th Oct '16 5:49:28 AM StarTropes
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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a [[ProudScholarlyRaceGuy Proud Scholarly Race]] until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.

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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a [[ProudScholarlyRaceGuy Proud Scholarly Race]] ProudScholarRace until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.
26th Oct '16 5:47:41 AM StarTropes
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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a ProudScholarlyRace until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.

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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a ProudScholarlyRace [[ProudScholarlyRaceGuy Proud Scholarly Race]] until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.
26th Oct '16 5:46:29 AM StarTropes
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* The Vidiians of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' have this as their [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. They were a ProudScholarlyRace until [[ThePlague the Phage]] infected them, forcing them to do increasingly terrible things to others simply to survive.
23rd Jul '16 12:57:59 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/WaywardPines'': Dr. Pilcher [[spoiler:predicts that humanity would doom itself in a matter of centuries]]. His attempts to warn the world community result in him being the laughingstock of the world. Being already wealthy, he starts a project to [[spoiler:use [[HumanPopsicle cryogenics]] to preserve the best and the brightest to repopulate the human race about 2000 years later]]. Unfortunately for him, most refuse his offer, so he [[spoiler:uses various methods to kidnap people and freeze them against their will]]. This also applies to anyone who starts looking at the mysterious disappearances in Wayward Pines, Idaho. [[spoiler:Fast-forward to the year 4028, some of the people have been woken up and live in the town, although very few know the truth]]. Most adults think they were in some sort of car accident and woke up in the town hospital. There are several cardinal rules in Wayward Pines: don't try to leave, don't speak of the past, always answer the phone, etc. Disobeying the rules can result in a public execution. Some of the children are told the truth but are warned to keep it secret even from their parents. Why? [[spoiler:Two reasons: 1) Everyone currently living in the town belongs to Group B. Group A was awakened first and were immediately told the truth. After a few months, DespairEventHorizon kicked in, and most committed suicide rather than live with the truth that they are all that's left of human civilization. 2) There are vicious humanoid creatures living outside the massive walls of the town, nicknamed Aberrations or Abbies by Pilcher, what's left of humanity]]. Unfortunately, Pilcher's policies (including BigBrother-like monitoring) have resulted in a secret group deciding to find a way out no matter the cost, including blowing up a chunk of the wall. Given the second reason stated above, that would be a [[{{Understatement}} really bad idea]].

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* ''Series/WaywardPines'': Dr. Pilcher [[spoiler:predicts that humanity would doom itself in a matter of centuries]]. His attempts to warn the world community result in him being the laughingstock of the world. Being already wealthy, he starts a project to [[spoiler:use [[HumanPopsicle cryogenics]] to preserve the best and the brightest to repopulate the human race about 2000 years later]]. Unfortunately for him, most refuse his offer, so he [[spoiler:uses various methods to kidnap people and freeze them against their will]]. This also applies to anyone who starts looking at the mysterious disappearances in Wayward Pines, Idaho. [[spoiler:Fast-forward to the year 4028, some of the people have been woken up and live in the town, although very few know the truth]]. Most adults think they were in some sort of car accident and woke up in the town hospital. There are several cardinal rules in Wayward Pines: don't try to leave, don't speak of the past, always answer the phone, etc. Disobeying the rules can result in a public execution. Some of the children are told the truth but are warned to keep it secret even from their parents. Why? [[spoiler:Two reasons: 1) Everyone currently living in the town belongs to Group B. Group A was awakened first and were immediately told the truth. After a few months, DespairEventHorizon kicked in, and most committed suicide rather than live with the truth that they are all that's left of human civilization. 2) There are vicious humanoid creatures living outside the massive walls of the town, nicknamed Aberrations or Abbies by Pilcher, what's left of humanity]]. Unfortunately, Pilcher's policies (including BigBrother-like [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Big Brother]]-like monitoring) have resulted in a secret group deciding to find a way out no matter the cost, including blowing up a chunk of the wall. Given the second reason stated above, that would be a [[{{Understatement}} really bad idea]].
17th Jun '16 11:34:26 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Comes up again in "The Zygon Inversion". In the final confrontation, Bonnie the Zygon tries to blame the Doctor for creating the circumstances that led to the Zygon uprising and all the pain and suffering involved. The Doctor points out that, since she's the one ''leading'' the Zygon uprising, she has no small amount of responsibility for what's happened as well. Bonnie invokes this trope, but the Doctor throws it back in her face; both of them felt that what they were doing was necessary at the time, so if she tries to use this to deflect responsibility for her own actions onto others, then so can he.
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