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** Ryoji's Link Episodes in Reload has him joke about how it sounds like he's confessing his love for Makoto. The Link Episodes in general [[spoiler: including the scene on December 31st]] also imply that Ryoji may have feelings for him.
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** Ryoji's Link Linked Episodes in Reload are effectively a slightly alerted, shortened version of his FEMC Social Link, and truly go the extra mile to make good on his claim that he would like the protagonist [[AmbiguouslyBi no matter if they were a boy or a girl]]. The episodes feature numerous instances of Ryoji flirting, including playing the piano for Makoto in order to impress him, promising he will ask girls if they have a boyfriend before inviting them for dinner only to ask Makoto if he has a significant other and offer to buy him joke food right after, ordering a "smile" from him during his work experience at Wilduck, and joking about how it sounds like he's confessing his love for Makoto. Makoto in Kyoto. Their relationship also retains the sense of DejaVu from his Social Link, with Ryoji noting it feels like they've known each other for a long time during their first meeting. The Link Linked Episodes in general [[spoiler: including the scene on December 31st]] also imply that Ryoji may have while his flirtatiousness towards girls was simply an attempt to form connections, he develops genuine romantic feelings for him.Makoto, similarly to how he did with Kotone, and give him what is heavily implied to be an InterruptedDeclarationOfLove on December 1st which is cut off by Fuuka's arrival.
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** Reload's addition of Ryoji playing the piano is clearly a homage to [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Kaworu Nagisa in the Rebuild films]], who Ryoji himself is [[{{Expy}} heavily inspired by]]. To drive the Shinji/Kaworu and Makoto/Ryoji parallels further, his fourth episode gives Makoto the option to ask if he can join him.
** During his visit to Wilduck, Ryoji begins to talk about how he doesn't like seeing Makoto in pain, before quickly cutting himself off and changing it to "seeing my friends in pain."
** [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF9AdpSWgAATkSW?format=png&name=900x900 "I'm actually in front of your room."]]
** Reload's [[spoiler: December 31st scene]] is made much more meaningful by the focus on Ryoji and Makoto's relationship, and leaves pretty much no ambiguity about the nature of Ryoji's feelings. The most blatant example of this is one of his lines after he [[spoiler: transforms into Thanatos, where he begs Makoto to kill him and states that he doesn't want to see him suffer]], which only happens if you complete his Linked Episodes. Not only are those lines taken from his Social Link and not present in FES, but they are exclusive to the ''romantic'' version of his link; he does not say them if he and Kotone are not in a relationship. This implies that his Linked Episodes are the equivalent of a romance route.
*** During the above scene, Ryoji calls Makoto his ''taisetsu na hito'' in Japanese, translated as "someone very special to me", and literally meaning "important/precious person." In Kotone's route, he calls her his ''daiji na hito'' on [[spoiler: New Year's Eve]], which not only carries the same meaning, but gets translated as "My dearest" in English, since both phrases are almost exclusively used to convey romantic interest when referring to another person. Aigis, who is often viewed as Makoto's most prominent ImpliedLoveInterest, also refers to him as her ''taisetsu na hito'' in the [[VideoGame/Persona4ArenaUltimax Arena games]].
*** His confession that while he asked to be friends with Makoto, he actually wants to be something more is a call back to his Rank 9 Social Link that also takes place on 12/1, where he tells Kotone he came there to be friends with her, but thinks what they have is different than just being friends. Like the above example, this is exclusive to his romance route, and a completely different scene happens in his platonic one.
** On [[spoiler: New Year's Eve]], after Makoto [[spoiler: refuses to kill him]], Ryoji confirms the reason [[spoiler: he became a human is because he wanted to see Makoto again]]. He then gives him the music box he bought in Kyoto, talking about how he never thought he'd feel this way, and asks Makoto to remember him every time he plays it. On its own, it's already a heartfelt gift that symbolizes their time together and shared connection through music, but it's also notable that a music box was given as a gift in Kotone's route too, by Akihiko on Christmas... if the two were ''dating''.
** Reload also adds elements on Makoto's end that highlight how much Ryoji means to him. Their first meeting ends with Makoto noting there's something about Ryoji that lingers in his mind. When [[spoiler: Ryoji collapses after TheReveal on the Moonlight Bridge]], it's now Makoto and not Fuuka who immediately rushes to his side. While Ryoji tells them about [[spoiler: the upcoming Fall and how killing him would erase their memories]], Makoto now has the option to say [[spoiler: "I could never kill you..."]] just like Kotone did. If the player chooses to have Makoto [[spoiler: kill Ryoji on 12/31]], he will hesitate and turn away as if unable to look at him, before eventually pulling out his Evoker. And while Makoto seems to not understand what Ryoji was implying during his confession, and Ryoji disappears before he can explain further, after the player [[spoiler: chooses not to kill Ryoji]] and Ryoji gives him the music box, Makoto will place it at the top of his bed without player input. This stands out as he usually places all his keepsakes on a shelf, and does not display any other item given to him from Social Links or Linked Episodes, showcasing how special Ryoji is to him and, combined with the romance route-exclusive lines, implying Makoto may have returned his feelings.
*** During the [[spoiler: Nyx Avatar fight]], Makoto now has the option to respond to newly added lines [[spoiler: after Nyx Avatar switches to the Death Arcana with "Let's go, Ryoji."]]
*** On 3/4, if you check the music room, a message will be displayed which has Makoto remember hearing a piano piece played once, stating that the melody will stay with him forever. Given that [[spoiler: everyone's memories of the Dark Hour, and consequently Ryoji, have been erased by this point, this can be seen as Makoto's determination to hold onto Ryoji's memory, like Ryoji himself wanted]]. Later on, before going to bed, Makoto will turn to look at Ryoji's music box, showing that he kept it through everything and seems to be aware of the significance it holds. Just as he does this, he receives a message from an unknown sender, [[spoiler: implied to be Ryoji given the context and color of the text box]], which simply says "Thank you."
** The official account for Sea Paradise posted [[https://x.com/seaparadise_ag/status/1757685414138405041 a tweet]] on Valentine's Day, showing Ryoji and Makoto's collab cutouts together at the aquarium.
** During his visit to Wilduck, Ryoji begins to talk about how he doesn't like seeing Makoto in pain, before quickly cutting himself off and changing it to "seeing my friends in pain."
** [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF9AdpSWgAATkSW?format=png&name=900x900 "I'm actually in front of your room."]]
** Reload's [[spoiler: December 31st scene]] is made much more meaningful by the focus on Ryoji and Makoto's relationship, and leaves pretty much no ambiguity about the nature of Ryoji's feelings. The most blatant example of this is one of his lines after he [[spoiler: transforms into Thanatos, where he begs Makoto to kill him and states that he doesn't want to see him suffer]], which only happens if you complete his Linked Episodes. Not only are those lines taken from his Social Link and not present in FES, but they are exclusive to the ''romantic'' version of his link; he does not say them if he and Kotone are not in a relationship. This implies that his Linked Episodes are the equivalent of a romance route.
*** During the above scene, Ryoji calls Makoto his ''taisetsu na hito'' in Japanese, translated as "someone very special to me", and literally meaning "important/precious person." In Kotone's route, he calls her his ''daiji na hito'' on [[spoiler: New Year's Eve]], which not only carries the same meaning, but gets translated as "My dearest" in English, since both phrases are almost exclusively used to convey romantic interest when referring to another person. Aigis, who is often viewed as Makoto's most prominent ImpliedLoveInterest, also refers to him as her ''taisetsu na hito'' in the [[VideoGame/Persona4ArenaUltimax Arena games]].
*** His confession that while he asked to be friends with Makoto, he actually wants to be something more is a call back to his Rank 9 Social Link that also takes place on 12/1, where he tells Kotone he came there to be friends with her, but thinks what they have is different than just being friends. Like the above example, this is exclusive to his romance route, and a completely different scene happens in his platonic one.
** On [[spoiler: New Year's Eve]], after Makoto [[spoiler: refuses to kill him]], Ryoji confirms the reason [[spoiler: he became a human is because he wanted to see Makoto again]]. He then gives him the music box he bought in Kyoto, talking about how he never thought he'd feel this way, and asks Makoto to remember him every time he plays it. On its own, it's already a heartfelt gift that symbolizes their time together and shared connection through music, but it's also notable that a music box was given as a gift in Kotone's route too, by Akihiko on Christmas... if the two were ''dating''.
** Reload also adds elements on Makoto's end that highlight how much Ryoji means to him. Their first meeting ends with Makoto noting there's something about Ryoji that lingers in his mind. When [[spoiler: Ryoji collapses after TheReveal on the Moonlight Bridge]], it's now Makoto and not Fuuka who immediately rushes to his side. While Ryoji tells them about [[spoiler: the upcoming Fall and how killing him would erase their memories]], Makoto now has the option to say [[spoiler: "I could never kill you..."]] just like Kotone did. If the player chooses to have Makoto [[spoiler: kill Ryoji on 12/31]], he will hesitate and turn away as if unable to look at him, before eventually pulling out his Evoker. And while Makoto seems to not understand what Ryoji was implying during his confession, and Ryoji disappears before he can explain further, after the player [[spoiler: chooses not to kill Ryoji]] and Ryoji gives him the music box, Makoto will place it at the top of his bed without player input. This stands out as he usually places all his keepsakes on a shelf, and does not display any other item given to him from Social Links or Linked Episodes, showcasing how special Ryoji is to him and, combined with the romance route-exclusive lines, implying Makoto may have returned his feelings.
*** During the [[spoiler: Nyx Avatar fight]], Makoto now has the option to respond to newly added lines [[spoiler: after Nyx Avatar switches to the Death Arcana with "Let's go, Ryoji."]]
*** On 3/4, if you check the music room, a message will be displayed which has Makoto remember hearing a piano piece played once, stating that the melody will stay with him forever. Given that [[spoiler: everyone's memories of the Dark Hour, and consequently Ryoji, have been erased by this point, this can be seen as Makoto's determination to hold onto Ryoji's memory, like Ryoji himself wanted]]. Later on, before going to bed, Makoto will turn to look at Ryoji's music box, showing that he kept it through everything and seems to be aware of the significance it holds. Just as he does this, he receives a message from an unknown sender, [[spoiler: implied to be Ryoji given the context and color of the text box]], which simply says "Thank you."
** The official account for Sea Paradise posted [[https://x.com/seaparadise_ag/status/1757685414138405041 a tweet]] on Valentine's Day, showing Ryoji and Makoto's collab cutouts together at the aquarium.
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** Plus during December [[spoiler: when everyone is deciding whether to kill Ryoji or not]], Mitsuru comes into Yukari's room and they discuss things. They come to the same conclusion pretty quickly and they both sit on Yukari's bed [[spoiler:... but nothing ever becomes of it]]. Lampshaded perfectly in [[http://youtu.be/Xsiib7j18zk?t=5m29s this]] Let's Play.
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** Plus during December [[spoiler: when everyone is deciding whether to kill Ryoji or not]], Mitsuru comes into Yukari's room and they discuss things. They come to the same conclusion pretty quickly and they both sit on Yukari's bed [[spoiler:... but nothing ever becomes of it]]. Lampshaded perfectly in [[http://youtu.be/Xsiib7j18zk?t=5m29s this]] Let's Play.
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** Ryoji's Link Episodes in Reload has him joke about how it sounds like he's confessing his love for Makoto. The final Episode [[spoiler: and the scene on December 31st]] also imply that Ryoji may have feelings for him.
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** Ryoji's Link Episodes in Reload has him joke about how it sounds like he's confessing his love for Makoto. The final Episode Link Episodes in general [[spoiler: and including the scene on December 31st]] also imply that Ryoji may have feelings for him.
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** Ryoji's Link Episodes in Reload has him joke about how it sounds like he's confessing his love for Makoto. The final Episode [[spoiler: and the scene on December 31st]] also imply that Ryoji may have feelings for him.
---> '''Ryoji''': I know I said I wanted us to be friends but... I actually want to be something more.
---> '''Ryoji''': I know I said I wanted us to be friends but... I actually want to be something more.
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* A lot of the holdover 'romantic' links have... interesting vibes too, like with [=FeMC=]/Fuuka- the Max event has the two of you baking a cake, taking it to Fuuka's room, talking about how you're going to be bonded forever (or in Fuuka's case, wanting the [=FeMC=] ALL TO HERSELF), and then you get the fadeout screen with the 'You spent a long time with Fuuka'- the exact same message you get when you max out romantically with a guy. For a game without an explicit lesbian option, they sure do cram in as many non-explicit ones as humanly possible. Also, the player can tell Fuuka to be glad to have met ''her specifically'' - to which Fuuka gets a LuminescentBlush like never before.
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* A lot of the holdover 'romantic' links have... interesting ''interesting'' vibes too, like with [=FeMC=]/Fuuka- the Max event has the two of you baking a cake, taking it to Fuuka's room, talking about how you're going to be bonded forever (or in Fuuka's case, wanting the [=FeMC=] ALL TO HERSELF), and then you get the fadeout screen with the 'You spent a long time with Fuuka'- the exact same message you get when you max out romantically with a guy. For a game without an explicit lesbian option, they sure do cram in as many non-explicit ones as humanly possible. Also, the player can tell Fuuka to be glad to have met ''her specifically'' - to which Fuuka gets a LuminescentBlush like never before.
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* That doesn't even begin to cover it. A lot of the links for the [=FeMC=]are subtext-riffic. Her Hermit Link, Saori, could easily be read as having a crush on her, and there is a lot of hand-holding involved in the last few ranks.
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* That doesn't even begin to cover it. A lot of the links for the [=FeMC=]are [=FeMC=] are subtext-riffic. Her Hermit Link, Saori, could easily be read as having a crush on her, and there is a lot of hand-holding involved in the last few ranks.
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** Volume 4 of the Drama CD series ends with Mitsuru ''offering Yukari to use her private shower'' and Yukari ''accepting her offer''.
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** During his encounter with the Protagonist in the movie adaptation, Tanaka calls the Protagonist handsome and offers him a job as a model.
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** In the second movie, during the beach sequence, Yukari (along with Fuuka) gushes over how pretty Mitsuru is, prompting Mitsuru to [[LuminiscentBlush visibly blush]].
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** In the second movie, during the beach sequence, Yukari (along with Fuuka) gushes over how pretty Mitsuru is, prompting Mitsuru to [[LuminiscentBlush [[LuminescentBlush visibly blush]].
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** In the second movie, during the beach sequence, Yukari (along with Fuuka) gushes over how pretty Mitsuru is prompting Mitsuru to visibly blush.
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** In the second movie, during the beach sequence, Yukari (along with Fuuka) gushes over how pretty Mitsuru is is, prompting Mitsuru to [[LuminiscentBlush visibly blush.blush]].
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** In the second movie, during the beach sequence, Yukari (along with Fuuka) gushes over how pretty Mitsuru is prompting Mitsuru to visibly blush.
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* Aigis acts exactly the same as she does in the original even when you play as a female. She is also the only female character who will privately see [=FeMC=] off in a tender moment during the ending.
** In the her 8th and 9th social rank, Aigis goes through something that looks suspiciously like {{Gayngst}}. And confesses to the female character at that!
*** Aigis's feelings are barely even subtext -- what else could the thing she wants in relation to the protagonist that she can never have because she's neither human [[IncompatibleOrientation nor male]] possibly be? And the max rank event has heavy sexual overtones as well. She takes the MC to her room, asks her to touch her intimate inner, uh, robotic workings, and then you get the "you spent a long time with Aigis" message with fade to black...
** In the second P3 play, Aigis gets a romantic duet with the protagonist in both versions. [[http://thepalebride.tumblr.com/post/110398172682/aigis-and-kotone-shiomis-song-from-persona-3-the The female version]] is completely identical to the [[http://thepalebride.tumblr.com/post/110398208627/aigis-and-sakuya-shiomis-song-from-persona-3-the male version]].
** In the her 8th and 9th social rank, Aigis goes through something that looks suspiciously like {{Gayngst}}. And confesses to the female character at that!
*** Aigis's feelings are barely even subtext -- what else could the thing she wants in relation to the protagonist that she can never have because she's neither human [[IncompatibleOrientation nor male]] possibly be? And the max rank event has heavy sexual overtones as well. She takes the MC to her room, asks her to touch her intimate inner, uh, robotic workings, and then you get the "you spent a long time with Aigis" message with fade to black...
** In the second P3 play, Aigis gets a romantic duet with the protagonist in both versions. [[http://thepalebride.tumblr.com/post/110398172682/aigis-and-kotone-shiomis-song-from-persona-3-the The female version]] is completely identical to the [[http://thepalebride.tumblr.com/post/110398208627/aigis-and-sakuya-shiomis-song-from-persona-3-the male version]].
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* Selecting the 3rd option during the last date with Elizabeth leads to some very suggestive dialogue. To top it off you then receive the same "You spent a long time with so and so" message that you get from the male love interests.
** On that note, in 'Portable' you can choose to have Elizabeth or [[DistaffCounterpart Theodore]] as the attendant in the Velvet Room. The route for the dates stays the same, and since you end up inviting Elizabeth into your room and 'spending a long time with her'...
** On that note, in 'Portable' you can choose to have Elizabeth or [[DistaffCounterpart Theodore]] as the attendant in the Velvet Room. The route for the dates stays the same, and since you end up inviting Elizabeth into your room and 'spending a long time with her'...
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** On that note, in 'Portable' you can choose to have Elizabeth or [[DistaffCounterpart Theodore]] as the attendant in the Velvet Room. The route for the dates stays the same, and since you end up inviting Elizabeth into your room and 'spending a long time with her'...
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** Aki/Shinji is the most complex relationship, since while they're not on the best of terms, they still care a lot for each other. [[spoiler:All their scenes together, that Akihiko confronts Shinjiro about taking the Persona suppressants, and that Akihiko holds Shinjiro during his death. It's far more then just random shipping.]]
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** Aki/Shinji is the most complex relationship, since while they're not on the best of terms, they still care a lot for each other. [[spoiler:All their scenes together, that Akihiko confronts Shinjiro about taking the Persona suppressants, and that Akihiko holds Shinjiro during his death. It's far more then than just random shipping.]]
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*** Aigis's feelings are barely even subtext -- I mean, what else could the thing she wants in relation to the protagonist that she can never have because she's neither human [[IncompatibleOrientation nor male]] possibly be? And the max rank event has heavy sexual overtones as well. She takes the MC to her room, asks her to touch her intimate inner, uh, robotic workings, and then you get the "you spent a long time with Aigis" message with fade to black...
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*** Aigis's feelings are barely even subtext -- I mean, what else could the thing she wants in relation to the protagonist that she can never have because she's neither human [[IncompatibleOrientation nor male]] possibly be? And the max rank event has heavy sexual overtones as well. She takes the MC to her room, asks her to touch her intimate inner, uh, robotic workings, and then you get the "you spent a long time with Aigis" message with fade to black...
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** During the encounter with her fiance, she also starts referring to you by your first name, like she does with a romanced male MC, or Yukari (who also has a great deal of LesYay with her).
* Way back, in the beginning of the game, right after you fight the first Shadow, you'll meet with Yukari again before going to school. If you've acted nice to her up until that point, she'll ''blush'' as she says your given name for the first time. It's worth noting that while she uses ''-kun'' on the male protagonist, she uses yobisute on the female protagonist, which, combined with her friendlier attitude[[note]]Her Social Link becomes available earlier, lacks the Charm requirement and there is no option that will result in you reversing it[[/note]], suggests that she has a closer relationship with the female protagonist.
* Way back, in the beginning of the game, right after you fight the first Shadow, you'll meet with Yukari again before going to school. If you've acted nice to her up until that point, she'll ''blush'' as she says your given name for the first time. It's worth noting that while she uses ''-kun'' on the male protagonist, she uses yobisute on the female protagonist, which, combined with her friendlier attitude[[note]]Her Social Link becomes available earlier, lacks the Charm requirement and there is no option that will result in you reversing it[[/note]], suggests that she has a closer relationship with the female protagonist.
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** During the encounter with her fiance, fiancé, she also starts referring to you by your first name, like she does with a romanced male MC, or Yukari (who also has a great deal of LesYay with her).
* Way back, in the beginning of the game, right after you fight the first Shadow, you'll meet with Yukari again before going to school. If you've acted nice to her up until that point, she'll ''blush'' as she says your given name for the first time. It's worth noting that while she uses ''-kun'' on the male protagonist, she uses yobisute on the female protagonist, which, combined with her overall friendlier attitude[[note]]Her Social Link becomes available earlier, lacks the Charm requirement and there is no option that will result in you reversing it[[/note]], suggests that she has a closer relationship with the female protagonist.
* Way back, in the beginning of the game, right after you fight the first Shadow, you'll meet with Yukari again before going to school. If you've acted nice to her up until that point, she'll ''blush'' as she says your given name for the first time. It's worth noting that while she uses ''-kun'' on the male protagonist, she uses yobisute on the female protagonist, which, combined with her overall friendlier attitude[[note]]Her Social Link becomes available earlier, lacks the Charm requirement and there is no option that will result in you reversing it[[/note]], suggests that she has a closer relationship with the female protagonist.
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** Something of note about Mitsuru's resolution: From that point on, Mitsuru decides to start calling Yukari by her first name. The only other people worthy of this privilege? Akihiko (a close friend from years back) and the MC...at rank nine, long after the S-link has gone romantic. If that doesn't say something about how Mitsuru views Yukari after her resolution scene, nothing does.
** Plus during December [[spoiler: when everyone is deciding whether to kill Ryoji or not]], Mitsuru comes into Yukari's room and they discuss things. They come to the same conclusion pretty quickly and they both sit on Yukari's bed [[spoiler:....but nothing ever becomes of it]]. Lampshaded perfectly in [[http://youtu.be/Xsiib7j18zk?t=5m29s this]] Let's Play.
** Yukari crying into Misturu, and what looks like Mitsuru holding her to her chest during The Answer.
** Plus during December [[spoiler: when everyone is deciding whether to kill Ryoji or not]], Mitsuru comes into Yukari's room and they discuss things. They come to the same conclusion pretty quickly and they both sit on Yukari's bed [[spoiler:....but nothing ever becomes of it]]. Lampshaded perfectly in [[http://youtu.be/Xsiib7j18zk?t=5m29s this]] Let's Play.
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** Something of note about Mitsuru's resolution: From from that point on, Mitsuru decides to start calling Yukari by her first name. The only other people worthy of this privilege? Akihiko (a close friend from years back) and the MC... at rank nine, long after the S-link has gone romantic. If that doesn't say something about how Mitsuru views Yukari after her resolution scene, nothing does.
** Plus during December [[spoiler: when everyone is deciding whether to kill Ryoji or not]], Mitsuru comes into Yukari's room and they discuss things. They come to the same conclusion pretty quickly and they both sit on Yukari's bed[[spoiler:....[[spoiler:... but nothing ever becomes of it]]. Lampshaded perfectly in [[http://youtu.be/Xsiib7j18zk?t=5m29s this]] Let's Play.
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** Plus during December [[spoiler: when everyone is deciding whether to kill Ryoji or not]], Mitsuru comes into Yukari's room and they discuss things. They come to the same conclusion pretty quickly and they both sit on Yukari's bed
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** Said fangirl is also {{Yandere}} and AxCrazy, to the point of blackmailing over people for pictures of and items related to her. The female MC can even click the option to sell her pictures of Mitsuru in a swimsuit for 1000 Yen each (no, that doesn't actually happen). The girl's reaction to THAT would fit right into ''Anime/HellGirl''. ''*shudder*''
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** Said fangirl is also {{Yandere}} and AxCrazy, to the point of blackmailing over people for pictures of Mitsuru and items related to her. The female MC can even click the option to sell her pictures of Mitsuru in a swimsuit for 1000 Yen each (no, that doesn't actually happen). The girl's reaction to THAT would fit right into ''Anime/HellGirl''. ''*shudder*''
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** Aki/Shinji is the most complex relationship, since while they're not on the best of terms, they still care a lot for each other. [[spoiler:All their scenes together, that Akihiko confronts Shinjiro about taking the persona suppressants, and that Akihiko holds Shinjiro during his death. It's far more then just random shipping.]]
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** Aki/Shinji is the most complex relationship, since while they're not on the best of terms, they still care a lot for each other. [[spoiler:All their scenes together, that Akihiko confronts Shinjiro about taking the persona Persona suppressants, and that Akihiko holds Shinjiro during his death. It's far more then just random shipping.]]
