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** This troper's middle aged, straight-as-an-arrow ''father'' saw the Aragorn/Boromir, leading to the following commentary during the movie:
--->'''Boromir:''' My brother... my captain...
--->'''Troper's Dad:''' ...my boyfriend.
--->'''Boromir:''' My king.
--->'''Troper's Dad:''' Oh.



* Surprised [[The A-Team]] movie isn't on here yet, considering that other than explosions, it mainly consisted of hot guys clutching each other while sniping about the female love interest.

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* Surprised [[The A-Team]] movie isn't on here yet, TheATeam movie, considering that other than explosions, it mainly consisted of hot guys clutching each other while sniping about the female love interest.
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** ''"If I were a woman, and I were not around, I should be in love with Rick."'' Mm-hmm.
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--->Higgins: ''"Pickering and I are at it from morning till night. It fills our whole lives. Teaching Eliza, talking to Eliza, listening to Eliza, dressing Eliza."''\\
Higgins' Mother: ''"You're a pretty pair of babies, playing with your live doll."''

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Higgins' Mother: '''Higgins' Mother:''' ''"You're a pretty pair of babies, playing with your live doll."''
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** Tuco tenderly touching Blondie's blistered lips while standing by his bedside, while talking about how they're the same and all alone in the world.

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** Frodo and Sam, Merry and Pippin, Gimli and Legolas, Aragorn and Legolas, Aragorn and Boromir, Boromir and Frodo... No woman could ever be as important to those guys as they are to each other.

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** Frodo and Sam, [[KissingCousins Merry and Pippin, Pippin]], Gimli and Legolas, Aragorn and Legolas, Aragorn and Boromir, Boromir and Frodo... No woman could ever be as important to those guys as they are to each other.


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** Is it just this troper, or does Gollum's relationship with Frodo seem a little strange? I know it's all about the Ring, but it's just plain creepy whenever he pets him.
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* Due to the ambiguousness of the categories, this troper isn't sure if this belongs here or in the WesternAnimation section, but... [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast Lumiere and Cogsworth]]. Naturally, [[RuleThirtyFour she's seen fanfics]].
** Oh, c'mon, Gaston and Lefou (the short sidekick who thinks he's so great), all the way! This troper worked on a school production where, at one point, Gaston picks him up and carries him bridal-style.

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* Due to the ambiguousness of the categories, this troper isn't sure if this belongs here or This migth belong in the WesternAnimation section, but... [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast Lumiere and Cogsworth]]. Naturally, [[RuleThirtyFour she's seen fanfics]].
** Oh, c'mon, Gaston and Lefou (the short sidekick who thinks he's so great), all the way! This troper worked on a school production where, at one point, Gaston picks him up and carries him bridal-style.way!



* ''{{Hook}}'': [[{{Lurkerbunny}} This troper]] read that Dustin Hoffman and Bob Hoskins were playing Captain Hook and Smee like a gay couple. It shows.

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* ''{{Hook}}'': [[{{Lurkerbunny}} This troper]] read that Dustin Hoffman and Bob Hoskins were allegedly playing Captain Hook and Smee like a gay couple. It shows.



** When Draco 'gatecrashes' the Slug Club party in HBP, Snape says he'll escort him out. The look Draco gives him is rather reminiscent to this Troper of a princess with her disapproved of suitor. Not to mention how 'I swore to protect you' afterwards sounded...

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** When Draco 'gatecrashes' the Slug Club party in HBP, Snape says he'll escort him out. The look Draco gives him is rather reminiscent to this Troper of a princess with her disapproved of suitor. Not to mention how 'I swore to protect you' afterwards sounded...



** After a very 'special' run of a ''Jungle Book'' adaptation, [[DesignatedNPC This Troper]] began seriously shipping Bagheera and Shere Khan. Ooh, the FoeYay in ''spades'', and the ''taunting'' and Bagheera being all [[TheStoic stoic]]... Plus they had a fight-scene, and Shere Khan only half-mockingly reminiscing about [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what a terror Bagheera used to be]]. Honestly, it came off like they'd just gotten out of a ''really'' bad breakup. And to top it off? Shere Khan had an inexplicable ([[CompellingVoice yet totally hot]]) Southern accent, and Bagheera had a growly voice ''a la'' [[BeastWars Dinobot]]. It was disturbing, yet...

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** After a very 'special' run of a ''Jungle Book'' adaptation, [[DesignatedNPC This Troper]] began seriously shipping Bagheera and Shere Khan.Khan had loads of this. Ooh, the FoeYay in ''spades'', and the ''taunting'' and Bagheera being all [[TheStoic stoic]]... Plus they had a fight-scene, and Shere Khan only half-mockingly reminiscing about [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what a terror Bagheera used to be]]. Honestly, it came off like they'd just gotten out of a ''really'' bad breakup. And to top it off? Shere Khan had an inexplicable ([[CompellingVoice yet totally hot]]) Southern accent, and Bagheera had a growly voice ''a la'' [[BeastWars Dinobot]]. It was disturbing, yet...



** Wait, there's a way to watch that movie and ''not'' see that? The only fans of that film that this troper knows of were a). in it for the teenage psychos and ho yay, or b). in it for the Leopold and Loeb references and ho yay. High points include Richard's jealous bedroom freak-out and the way our Charming Antagonists seem far too comfortable in each other's personal space. The whole business with Lisa just looks like Richie's seriously, seriously compensating-- he's such an over-the-top cad, if only to compensate for his metrosexual fashion sense. But wow-- talk about SlapSlapKiss.

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** Wait, there's a way to watch that movie and ''not'' see that? The only fans of that film that this troper knows of were a). in it for the teenage psychos and ho yay, or b). in it for the Leopold and Loeb references and ho yay. High points include Richard's jealous bedroom freak-out and the way our Charming Antagonists seem far too comfortable in each other's personal space. The whole business with Lisa just looks like Richie's seriously, seriously compensating-- he's such an over-the-top cad, if only to compensate for his metrosexual fashion sense. But wow-- talk about SlapSlapKiss.



** Does this even ''count''? Chase [[spoiler:kisses Caleb during the fight scene in Sarah's room]]. This troper read this as making the villain gay or bisexual in an attempt to induce hate (or lust, depending how well they knew their audience). At some point it has to stop being HoYay and become canon. (Besides, Caleb and Pogue were totally hooking up all over the place. And possibly/probably the other boys, too. The movie producers did make the serious artistic decision to have them be swimmers so they could all be wet and mostly naked together.)

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** Does this even ''count''? Chase [[spoiler:kisses Caleb during the fight scene in Sarah's room]]. This troper read this as making the villain gay or bisexual in an attempt to induce hate (or lust, depending how well they knew their audience). At some point it has to stop being HoYay and become canon. (Besides, Caleb and Pogue were totally hooking up all over the place. And possibly/probably the other boys, too. The movie producers did make the serious artistic decision to have them be swimmers so they could all be wet and mostly naked together.)



** Not to mention the main characters. This troper had to keep reminding that the brother was the primary love interest.

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** Not to mention the main characters. This troper had it was easy to keep reminding forget that the brother was the primary love interest.



* In a early, lesser-known (but very suspenseful) AlfredHitchcock film called ''The Lady Vanishes'' a bunch of people are staying together at an inn in central Europe. There's a pair of middle-aged English gentlemen who seem to be very close friends; the hotel is overbooked, so the two men end up sleeping in the maid's room. At one point, when the maid storms in and starts to change, they look away without any interest whatsoever. Later, we see them sitting in bed--one [[ShirtlessScene isn't wearing a shirt]] and the other isn't wearing pants! They may just be HeterosexualLifePartners, but this troper's entire family, including my somewhat socially conservative parents, were convinced that they were gay.

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* In a early, lesser-known (but very suspenseful) AlfredHitchcock film called ''The Lady Vanishes'' a bunch of people are staying together at an inn in central Europe. There's a pair of middle-aged English gentlemen who seem to be very close friends; the hotel is overbooked, so the two men end up sleeping in the maid's room. At one point, when the maid storms in and starts to change, they look away without any interest whatsoever. Later, we see them sitting in bed--one [[ShirtlessScene isn't wearing a shirt]] and the other isn't wearing pants! They may just be HeterosexualLifePartners, but this troper's entire family, including my somewhat socially conservative parents, were convinced that they were gay.the subtext was pretty damning.



* Really? No mention of the TheFoxAndTheHound? Really? The entire story played like a tragic Childhood Romeo/Juliet plot! And they really seem to enjoy...er....[[http://media.ignimgs.com/media/thumb/159/1594281/the-fox-and-the-hound-25th-anniversary-edition-20060725001754212_thumb_ign.jpg playing...]]
* [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038686 Legion]] has Michael and Gabriel. This troper was utterly convinced they were going to kiss near the end of their fight scene.

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* Really? No mention of the TheFoxAndTheHound? Really? TheFoxAndTheHound, really. The entire story played like a tragic Childhood Romeo/Juliet plot! And they really seem to enjoy...er....[[http://media.ignimgs.com/media/thumb/159/1594281/the-fox-and-the-hound-25th-anniversary-edition-20060725001754212_thumb_ign.jpg playing...]]
* [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038686 Legion]] has Michael and Gabriel. This troper was utterly convinced It seriously seemed like they were going to kiss near the end of their fight scene.



** There's a little reciprication near the end. "Okay, fine, I missed you too."

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** There's a little reciprication reciprocation near the end. "Okay, fine, I missed you too."
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** There's a little reciprication near the end. "Okay, fine, I missed you a little too."

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** In the original script, apparently, it wasn't subtext. [[{{WhatCouldHaveBeen}} Just text.]]
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*** Seriously. Watch [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBqt0a8sgWM this]].
*** It should be noted that in most stage versions of the show, Gaston and Lefou have a accidental kiss during the song "Belle". lolhoyay
* Definitely something going on between characters Freddy Newendyke, "Mr. Orange," and Larry Dimick, "Mr. White," in QuentinTarantino's 1990 film ''ReservoirDogs''. It is actually impossible to to cite specific examples; the entire movie is one colossal homoerotic overtone. The script: [[http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Reservoir-Dogs.html]] (some-what inconsistent with the movie as Tarantino enjoys last-minute changes, apparently. The important [read: gay] bits are intact, though. Note: the scenes in te "INT. OFFICE" weren't actually filmed, so it isn't official canon. Still gay though, definitely. [Aw. It leaves out the bit at the ending with White's hysterical crying. Damn.] NOT TO MENTION the whole weird Nice Guy Eddie calling his father "Daddy" in front of everybody, at almost every opportunity to do so. Also, without spoiling anything, there is undeniable subtext between Nice Guy Eddie and 'Toothpick' Vic Vega, from bro-hugs, cheek kisses and an all out throw-down on the floor of Daddy's office. Don't forget the "You'd keep me for yourself," line Eddie throws Vic's way, and the ever-classic "Did you see that, Daddy? Guy got me on the floor, tried to fuck me!")
** Don't forget Mr. Orange having a fake wedding ring he puts on as part of his 'cool, macho dude' costume.
*** Also gotta include Orange's wince while the guys discuss the pain of being fucked by a big dick in the beginning scene.
* Tyler Durden and the protagonist in ''FightClub''. I mean, it turns out that [[spoiler:[[SplitPersonality they're the same person]],]] but that doesn't reduce all the HoYay.

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*** ** Seriously. Watch [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBqt0a8sgWM this]].
*** ** It should be noted that in most stage versions of the show, Gaston and Lefou have a accidental kiss during the song "Belle". lolhoyay
* Definitely something going on between characters Freddy Newendyke, "Mr. Orange," and Larry Dimick, "Mr. White," in QuentinTarantino's 1990 film ''ReservoirDogs''. It is actually impossible to to cite specific examples; the entire movie is one colossal homoerotic overtone. The script: [[http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Reservoir-Dogs.html]] (some-what inconsistent with the movie as Tarantino enjoys last-minute changes, apparently. The important [read: gay] bits are intact, though. Note: the scenes in te the "INT. OFFICE" weren't actually filmed, so it isn't official canon. Still gay though, definitely. [Aw. It leaves out the bit at the ending with White's hysterical crying. Damn.] NOT TO MENTION the whole weird Nice Guy Eddie calling his father "Daddy" in front of everybody, at almost every opportunity to do so. Also, without spoiling anything, there is so.
** There's
undeniable subtext between Nice Guy Eddie and 'Toothpick' Vic Vega, from bro-hugs, cheek kisses and an all out throw-down on the floor of Daddy's office. Don't forget the "You'd keep me for yourself," line Eddie throws Vic's way, and the ever-classic "Did you see that, Daddy? Guy got me on the floor, tried to fuck me!")
** Don't forget Mr. Orange having a fake wedding ring he puts on as part of his 'cool, macho dude' costume.
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costume. And Orange's wince while the guys discuss the pain of being fucked by a big dick in the beginning scene.
* Tyler Durden and the protagonist in ''FightClub''. I mean, it It turns out that [[spoiler:[[SplitPersonality they're the same person]],]] but that doesn't reduce all the HoYay.



* ''BendItLikeBeckham''. I'm not sure if there '''are''' even any het or gen fics in that fandom, just the Les Yay.

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* I am I seriously the only one here who didn't notice the ''looks'' from Agent Simmons' balding sidekick in the 2007 ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movie, not to mention the childish repetition of Simmons' declarations? MichaelBay [[WordOfGod even said]] in the director's commentary JohnTurturro (Simmons' actor) improvised stuff about questioning his sexuality.
** The Sam/Bumblebee stuff. I know, 'Bee is technically genderless, but the Transformers are all assigned gender-specific pronouns, probably as a humanizing gesture. Also: "I'm not gonna leave you!"

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* I am I seriously the only one here who didn't notice the The ''looks'' from Agent Simmons' balding sidekick in the 2007 ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movie, not to mention the childish repetition of Simmons' declarations? declarations. MichaelBay [[WordOfGod even said]] in the director's commentary JohnTurturro (Simmons' actor) improvised stuff about questioning his sexuality.
** The Sam/Bumblebee stuff. I know, 'Bee is technically genderless, but the Transformers are all assigned gender-specific pronouns, probably as a humanizing gesture. Also: "I'm not gonna leave you!"



** Really, you could pick any two guys from that and have justification for some of this. Joker/anybody and everybody is obvious, from him telling Batman "You complete me" to dressing up as a nurse and almost seducing Dent (to the side of chaos, yes, but it's still seduction dammit!), but there's obvious Batsy/Dent, Batboy/Gordon and Cricket Bat/Alfred going on, father figure my pasty British ass.
** Oh, and I almost forgot- Joker/Harvey. Hell yes.

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** Really, you could pick any two guys from that and have justification for some of this. Joker/anybody and everybody is obvious, from him telling Batman "You complete me" to dressing up as a nurse and almost seducing Dent (to the side of chaos, yes, but it's still seduction dammit!), but there's obvious Batsy/Dent, Batboy/Gordon and Cricket Bat/Alfred going on, father figure my pasty British ass.
on.
** Oh, and I almost forgot- Joker/Harvey. Hell yes.Likewise with the "seduction".



*** And this movie also had ''[[MaggieGyllenhaal Maggie]]'' [[MaggieGyllenhaal Gyllenhaal]]. Which prompted many a round of giggles from certain fangirls.
**** And lest we forget: HeathLedger played the Joker.
***** So with Ledger as TheJoker and the Gyllenhaals as Bruce and Rachel, I count HoYay, FoeYay, BrotherSisterIncest via a CastingGag...

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*** ** And this movie also had ''[[MaggieGyllenhaal Maggie]]'' [[MaggieGyllenhaal Gyllenhaal]]. Which prompted many a round of giggles from certain fangirls.
**** ** And lest we forget: HeathLedger played the Joker.
***** So with Ledger as TheJoker and the Gyllenhaals as Bruce and Rachel, I count HoYay, FoeYay, BrotherSisterIncest via a CastingGag...
Joker.



** Hell yeah. I mean, the narrator would ''bathe'' in front of him!

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** Hell yeah. I mean, the The narrator would ''bathe'' in front of him!



** This is especially interesting because the author of the book upon which the movie was based is himself gay, but FightClub the book doesn't have anywhere near the HoYay as the movie.
** What, apart from when he talks about how he's in love with Tyler?

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** This is especially interesting because the author of the book upon which the movie was based is himself gay, but FightClub the book doesn't have anywhere near the HoYay as the movie.
** What, apart
movie. Apart from when he talks about how he's in love with Tyler?Tyler, maybe.



** I read somewhere that it was originally written as a love story between the two girls. Wish they'd left it that way!



*** This troper (a ''KingdomHearts'' fan) once had a friend try to disgust her with pairings, and he came up with Pete/Genie. The reasoning? Just go watch the scene where Genie mistakes Pete for Aladdin. Brainscarred yet?

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*** This troper (a ''KingdomHearts'' fan) once had a friend try to disgust her with pairings, and he came up with Pete/Genie. ** The reasoning? Just go watch the scene where Genie mistakes Pete for Aladdin. Brainscarred yet?



** My favorite part from HBP is when Harry and Ron are awkwardly discussing their love interests and their 'skin'. Ron seems mystified as to why the cute black guy would want his sister (and not in a protective older brother way, either), while Harry lies in bed staring at his magical map, watching Draco Malfoy.

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** My favorite part from HBP is when When Harry and Ron are awkwardly discussing their love interests and their 'skin'. Ron seems mystified as to why the cute black guy would want his sister (and not in a protective older brother way, either), while Harry lies in bed staring at his magical map, watching Draco Malfoy.



** Not just strongly hints - the movie pretty much makes Charlie Prince canonically gay for his Boss (or just plain gay, for that matter - I mean, "Charlie Princess"?). It's made especially obvious from the annoyed look he gave to the girl Ben Wade was picking up, his emotional "I'll wait for you," and the betrayed look of shock he made when he saw that Ben decided to go along with Dan and jump off the roof.
*** Not to mention the fact that Wade mentions his love for green eyes a handful of times in the beginning of the film. Charlie Prince (and Ben Foster) has the prettiest pair of green eyes...

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** Not just strongly hints - the movie pretty much makes Charlie Prince canonically gay for his Boss (or just plain gay, for that matter - I mean, -- "Charlie Princess"?). It's made especially obvious from the annoyed look he gave to the girl Ben Wade was picking up, his emotional "I'll wait for you," and the betrayed look of shock he made when he saw that Ben decided to go along with Dan and jump off the roof.
*** ** Not to mention the fact that Wade mentions his love for green eyes a handful of times in the beginning of the film. Charlie Prince (and Ben Foster) has the prettiest pair of green eyes...



* ''RevengeOfTheSith'' skirted the edge of both HoYay and FoeYay with Anakin and Obi-Wan; Senator Palpatine also showed somewhat disturbing levels of interest in young Anakin since he was nine years old (yeah, yeah, Dark Side potential, but many fans including This Troper felt like Palpy was being played as if he were a pedophile, as if he weren't evil enough).
** This troper definitely got the impression that, right from ''The Phantom Menace'', Palpatine's interest in Anakin had a distinct paedo-vibe to it. A thousand-times ick.

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* ''RevengeOfTheSith'' skirted the edge of both HoYay and FoeYay with Anakin and Obi-Wan; Senator Palpatine also showed somewhat disturbing levels of interest in young Anakin since he was nine years old (yeah, yeah, Dark Side potential, but many fans including This Troper felt like Palpy was being played as if he were a pedophile, as if he weren't evil enough).
** This troper definitely got the impression that, right from ''The Phantom Menace'', Palpatine's interest in Anakin had a distinct paedo-vibe to it. A thousand-times ick.
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* [[TheJungleBook Baloo and Bagheera]]. There's the whole scolding-mother carefree-father thing being played, the long and emotional eulogy Bagheera gives Baloo when the bear [[DisneyDeath "dies"]] to protect Mowgli, and come on. Baggy outright asks the guy if he would marry a panther! ...what? Stop giving me that look!
** And the ending was pretty gay , even with Mowgli going to the village to chase a girl. Baloo states girls are nothing but trouble, and he and Bagheera go strolling back into the jungle (''with their arms around each other'') singing the last song. So no, you're not weird for picking up on the implications behind their relationship. ThisTroper actually shipped them as a young kid (before she understood the concept of homosexuality) because their dynamic reminded her of her mom and dad.

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* [[TheJungleBook Baloo and Bagheera]]. There's the whole scolding-mother carefree-father thing being played, the long and emotional eulogy Bagheera gives Baloo when the bear [[DisneyDeath "dies"]] to protect Mowgli, and come on. Baggy outright asks the guy if he would marry a panther! ...what? Stop giving me that look!
panther!
** And the ending was pretty gay , even with Mowgli going to the village to chase a girl. Baloo states girls are nothing but trouble, and he and Bagheera go strolling back into the jungle (''with their arms around each other'') singing the last song. So no, you're not weird for picking up on the implications behind their relationship. ThisTroper actually shipped them as a young kid (before she understood the concept of homosexuality) because their dynamic reminded her of her mom and dad.



** After a very 'special' run of a ''Jungle Book'' adaptation, [[DesignatedNPC This Troper]] began seriously shipping Bagheera and Shere Khan. Ooh, the FoeYay in ''spades'', and the ''taunting'' and Bagheera being all [[TheStoic stoic]]... Plus they had a fight-scene, and Shere Khan only half-mockingly reminiscing about [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what a terror Bagheera used to be]]. Honestly, it came off like they'd just gotten out of a ''really'' bad breakup, and this troper's totally-ignorant-of-slash ''parents'' brought the subtext up. (This is technically a Theater example, but eh.) And to top it off? Shere Khan had an inexplicable ([[CompellingVoice yet totally hot]]) Southern accent, and Bagheera had a growly voice ''a la'' [[BeastWars Dinobot]]. It was disturbing, yet...
*** ...is there video footage of this? [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Purely for scientific research purposes, of course.]]
**** ''Jungle Cubs'' has Shere Khan/Bagheera in Shouta form. My first slash pairing, I am both proud and ashamed to admit.
***** This troper was had no idea about slashing or shipping at the point this cartoon was on TV, but still the thought: They would be a cute couple! entered her mind and stayed there.

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** After a very 'special' run of a ''Jungle Book'' adaptation, [[DesignatedNPC This Troper]] began seriously shipping Bagheera and Shere Khan. Ooh, the FoeYay in ''spades'', and the ''taunting'' and Bagheera being all [[TheStoic stoic]]... Plus they had a fight-scene, and Shere Khan only half-mockingly reminiscing about [[InLoveWithYourCarnage what a terror Bagheera used to be]]. Honestly, it came off like they'd just gotten out of a ''really'' bad breakup, and this troper's totally-ignorant-of-slash ''parents'' brought the subtext up. (This is technically a Theater example, but eh.) breakup. And to top it off? Shere Khan had an inexplicable ([[CompellingVoice yet totally hot]]) Southern accent, and Bagheera had a growly voice ''a la'' [[BeastWars Dinobot]]. It was disturbing, yet...
*** ...is there video footage of this? [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Purely for scientific research purposes, of course.]]
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** ''Jungle Cubs'' has Shere Khan/Bagheera in Shouta form. My first slash pairing, I am both proud and ashamed to admit. \n***** This troper was had no idea about slashing or shipping at the point this cartoon was on TV, but still the thought: They would be a cute couple! entered her mind and stayed there.



** I can't imagine how he couldn't be...but anyways, depending on whether you think Toaster is a boy or not, this can be applied to him and Blanky.

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** I can't imagine how he couldn't be...but anyways, depending Depending on whether you think Toaster is a boy or not, this can be applied to him and Blanky.



** The above examples are from the 2005 remake of the movie. While the original doesn't have a pseudo-love song, it's pretty full of HoYay, depending on how you interpret certain scenes.

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** The sequel is [[strike: worse]] better ; ThisTroper [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat spent the whole thing reminding herself that no, they're ''not'' going to kiss now, American kids' movies ''don't'' allow that, etc.]]
*** [[TromboneChild This troper]] was right there with you. I just kept thinking, 'Oh, they're ''so'' in love." And it didn't help when [[spoiler:the sand in the hourglass was suffocating Jedidiah, and he was trying to tell Octavius about how their relationship progressed "from enemies to friends and some stuff that will make you cry."]] Subtle.
*** "There was a certain kind of subtext, what those of a discerning view might read as a subtle homoerotic subtext. If those people read that into it I certainly wouldn't argue with it . . . Yes, Octavius has a certain fascination with Jedediah because, of course, he wouldn't meet people as irreverent as that in the world of the Roman Empire, I think people were a bit more formal in their behaviour, so that slightly gauche, throwaway attitude that goes with being a cowboy fascinates Octavius, and he finds it quite alluring" - Steve Coogan (The guy who plays Octavius)

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** The sequel is [[strike: worse]] better ; ThisTroper [[NotThatTheresAnythingWrongWithThat spent the whole thing reminding herself that no, they're ''not'' better. No, they weren't ''really'' going to kiss now, American kids' movies ''don't'' allow that, etc.]]
*** [[TromboneChild This troper]] was right there with you. I just kept thinking, 'Oh, they're ''so'' in love." And it
kiss, but yeah...
** It
didn't help when [[spoiler:the sand in the hourglass was suffocating Jedidiah, and he was trying to tell Octavius about how their relationship progressed "from enemies to friends and some stuff that will make you cry."]] Subtle.
*** --> Steve Coogan (who plays Octavious): "There was a certain kind of subtext, what those of a discerning view might read as a subtle homoerotic subtext. If those people read that into it I certainly wouldn't argue with it . . . Yes, Octavius has a certain fascination with Jedediah because, of course, he wouldn't meet people as irreverent as that in the world of the Roman Empire, I think people were a bit more formal in their behaviour, so that slightly gauche, throwaway attitude that goes with being a cowboy fascinates Octavius, and he finds it quite alluring" - Steve Coogan (The guy who plays Octavius)alluring"



* This troper cannot be the only one who noticed some really disturbing ho yay in ''[=~28 Days Later~=]''. Pretty tame ho yay vibes with West, but there's a scene in question where one of the soldiers (the name of whom is escaping me) is gloating over what he's going to do to Selena -- and it very, very creepily feels like he's also threatening Jim.

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* This troper cannot be the only one who noticed some really disturbing ho yay in ''[=~28 Days Later~=]''. Pretty tame ho yay vibes with West, but there's a scene in question where one of the soldiers (the name of whom is escaping me) is gloating over what he's going to do to Selena -- and it very, very creepily feels like he's also threatening Jim.



* This troper can't be the only one who thought that the Rorschach/Nite Owl bromance in the ''{{Watchmen}}'' film was given more emotional weight than the het romance, right? I mean, I know this is Rorschach I'm talking about, but... still.
** Also, absolutely any moment featuring Adrian Veidt. They ''totally'' played up that "possibly homosexual" thing.
*** ThisTroper concurs. While Ozzy certainly had his moments in the comic, the whole thing was cranked to 11 in TheMovie. He had moments with Nite Owl, Manhattan, and even Rorschach. He always seemed to look like he was [[AmbiguouslyGay checking the other guys out...]]
*** The bit in the opening montage where Ozymandius is [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail at a photoshoot with The Village People]] might have been a ''slight'' hint, yes...
**** And gets kinda handsy with a smiling DavidBowie. ''No'', really?
*** He also has a folder labelled 'BOYS' on his computer.
*** Several not-so-subliminal pink triangles appear in scenes that feature Ozymandius/Veidt.

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* This troper can't be the only one who thought that the The Rorschach/Nite Owl bromance in the ''{{Watchmen}}'' film was seemed to be given more emotional weight than the het romance, right? I mean, I know romance. Yeah, this is Rorschach I'm talking about, but... Rorschach, but still.
** Also, absolutely any moment featuring Adrian Veidt. They ''totally'' played up that "possibly homosexual" thing.
*** ThisTroper concurs.
thing. While Ozzy certainly had his moments in the comic, the whole thing was cranked to 11 in TheMovie. He had moments with Nite Owl, Manhattan, and even Rorschach. He always seemed to look like he was [[AmbiguouslyGay checking the other guys out...]]
*** ** The bit in the opening montage where Ozymandius is [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail at a photoshoot with The Village People]] might have been a ''slight'' hint, yes...
****
and the fact that he has a folder labelled 'BOYS' on his computer.
**
And gets kinda handsy with a smiling DavidBowie. ''No'', really?
*** He also has a folder labelled 'BOYS' on his computer.
***
** Several not-so-subliminal pink triangles appear in scenes that feature Ozymandius/Veidt.



* Um. I'm sorry. ''FunnyGames'' has this out the wazoo. You can't have your main antagonists be basically Leopold and Loeb [[InSpace ONLY BADASS AND TOTALLY SOCIOPATHIC!]](tm) and not have there be glimpses of unfortunate-yay. (It helps that... dude, it's got Michael Pitt. And whoever wrote the page brief for the film, the fact that there's no better name for one of the characters than basically "the dominant one" is very revealing.)
** What do you mean, "Leopold and Loeb, ''only'' sociopathic"? The real guys killed a little kid just to see if they could. You don't get more sociopathic than that.
*** Perhaps "sadistic" might make things clearer.
* I'm sure ''{{Twilight}}'' is already covered under the literature section, but Edward's flashback to Carlisle [[EmergencyTransformation turning him into a vampire]] has Edward making an honest-to-god orgasm face.
** Really? To this troper, it had creepy rape vibes. Really ''hot'' creepy rape vibes, [[FetishFuel I'm sorry to say]]. Carlisle is a walking pile of ho yay. Just wait 'til the later books get filmed...

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* Um. I'm sorry. ''FunnyGames'' has this out the wazoo. You can't have your main antagonists be basically Leopold and Loeb [[InSpace ONLY BADASS AND TOTALLY SOCIOPATHIC!]](tm) and not have there be glimpses of unfortunate-yay. (It helps that... dude, it's got Michael Pitt. And whoever wrote the page brief for the film, the fact that there's no better name for one of the characters than basically "the dominant one" is very revealing.)
** What do you mean, "Leopold and Loeb, ''only'' sociopathic"? The real guys killed a little kid just to see if they could. You don't get more sociopathic than that.
*** Perhaps "sadistic" might make things clearer.
* I'm sure ''{{Twilight}}'' is already covered under the literature section, but Edward's flashback to Carlisle [[EmergencyTransformation turning him into a vampire]] has Edward making an honest-to-god orgasm face.
** Really? To this troper, it had
face. Complete with creepy rape vibes. Really ''hot'' creepy rape vibes, [[FetishFuel I'm sorry to say]]. Carlisle is a walking pile of ho yay. Just wait 'til the later books get filmed...vibes.



* Nobody has mentioned Frodo and Sam from ''{{The Lord of the Rings}}'' yet? The third film was practically nothing but this whenever the two of them were on screen.
** Seriously, is there a whole ''{{The Lord Of The Rings}}'' section this troper's not seeing? Frodo and Sam, Merry and Pippin, Gimli and Legolas, Aragorn and Legolas, Aragorn and Boromir, Boromir and Frodo... No woman could ever be as important to those guys as they are to each other.
*** Heck, Gimli and Legolas had, at the very least, an ''epic@���� ��<���erosexual life partners}}hip going on in the books. HoYay is a SubjectiveTrope, and it's not much of a stretch.

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* Nobody has mentioned Frodo and Sam from ''{{The Lord of the Rings}}'' yet? Rings}}''. The third film was practically nothing but this whenever the two of them were on screen.
** Seriously, is there a whole ''{{The Lord Of The Rings}}'' section this troper's not seeing? Frodo and Sam, Merry and Pippin, Gimli and Legolas, Aragorn and Legolas, Aragorn and Boromir, Boromir and Frodo... No woman could ever be as important to those guys as they are to each other.
*** ** Heck, Gimli and Legolas had, at the very least, an ''epic@���� ��<���erosexual life partners}}hip epic {{HeterosexualLifePartner}}hip going on in the books. HoYay is a SubjectiveTrope, and it's not much of a stretch.



*** And ''this'' troper would like to meet and possibly marry your dad, because that is just made of so much win there really aren't words for it.



** This troper gets the ''strongest'' HoYay vibe of the film from Merry and Pippin. Seriously, as if their tearful separation in ''Return of the King'' isn't enough, their reunion after the Battle of Minas Tirith? With Pippin tearfully cradling Merry and then covering him with his cloak? My goodness. Just check out the dialogue:

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** This troper gets the ''strongest'' HoYay vibe of the film from Merry and Pippin. Seriously, as if their tearful separation in ''Return of the King'' isn't enough, their reunion after the Battle of Minas Tirith? With Pippin tearfully cradling Merry and then covering him with his cloak? My goodness. Just check out the dialogue:



* I know, I know, Kirk and Spock is the granddaddy of all SlashFic, but in the new ''Film/StarTrek'' Nero and Ayel have some major villainous vibes.

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* I know, I know, Kirk and Spock is the granddaddy of all SlashFic, but in the new ''Film/StarTrek'' Nero and Ayel have some major villainous vibes.



*** Everytime he does that, This Troper sings "Matchmaker, Matchmaker"



* Some people have said they see HoYay between Alex and Marty in ''{{Madagascar}}''. This troper ''can'' see it, but it's eclipsed by the sheer FlamboyantGay behaviour of King Julien, including a scene where everyone's dancing and he leaps into Maurice's arms. In RealLife, lemur troops are led by a female; this troper figures it's not a case of You Fail Zoology Forever because [[IncrediblyLamePun Julien is enough of a queen]].

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* Some people have said they see HoYay between Alex and Marty in ''{{Madagascar}}''. This troper ''can'' see it, ''{{Madagascar}}'' but it's eclipsed by the sheer FlamboyantGay behaviour of King Julien, including a scene where everyone's dancing and he leaps into Maurice's arms. In RealLife, lemur troops are led by a female; this troper figures it's not a case of You Fail Zoology Forever because [[IncrediblyLamePun Julien is enough of a queen]].



* ThisTroper felt that ShowerScene in {{Sixteen Candles}} was full of LesYay. Even though Samantha and her friend are discussing Carolyn's relationship with Jake Ryan, the boy Samantha is in love with, Carolyn has ''no idea'' that the two are watching her, and the expression on Samantha's face just screams she wants Carolyn instead.
* Nobody else noticed the HoYay in the third ''JurassicPark'' film between Alan and Billy? Seriously? ''No one?''
** That would entail ''[[DisContinuity watching]]'' [[SoBadItsHorrible Jurassic Park III]].

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* ThisTroper felt that the ShowerScene in {{Sixteen Candles}} was full of LesYay. Even though Samantha and her friend are discussing Carolyn's relationship with Jake Ryan, the boy Samantha is in love with, Carolyn has ''no idea'' that the two are watching her, and the expression on Samantha's face just screams she wants Carolyn instead.
* Nobody else noticed the HoYay in the The third ''JurassicPark'' film film, between Alan and Billy? Seriously? ''No one?''
** That
Billy. Unfortunately, that would entail ''[[DisContinuity ''[[FanonDiscontinuity watching]]'' [[SoBadItsHorrible Jurassic Park III]].III.



*** Oh, also this: "This was the first thing we built together." Father-son-relationship my ''foot''.
**** It helps too that the movie made a special point of shoulder touching among the cast, but only 5 and 2 (and 9 and 7, being the het. couple) touched hands (or at least had focal scenes on the hand touching).
** 5 and 9 got ''really'' close, ''really'' fast. 5 ''never. Stops. Touching him.''

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*** Oh, also this: "This was the first thing we built together." Father-son-relationship my ''foot''.
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Father-son-relationship, yeah right.
***
It helps too that the movie made a special point of shoulder touching among the cast, but only 5 and 2 (and 9 and 7, being the het. couple) touched hands (or at least had focal scenes on the hand touching).
** ** 5 and 9 got ''really'' close, ''really'' fast. 5 ''never. Stops. Touching him.''

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*** In fact, that's just about how Shaw's Pygmalion (on which My Fair Lady is based) ends, with Eliza off to marry Freddie.

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*** ** In fact, that's just about how Shaw's Pygmalion (on which My Fair Lady is based) ends, with Eliza off to marry Freddie.



*** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHklGtW3rwU As did Quentin Tarantino]]

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*** ** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHklGtW3rwU As did Quentin Tarantino]]



*** Hey, they're just playing with the boys...
**** This Troper [[WatchItForTheMeme bought the movie just because of the Ho Yay]] and almost had a stroke when he realized that that ''wasn't'' added in for the trailer.



** This Troper's mother remarked "I thought they were going to kiss then!" about seven thousand times during this movie.



** One word: {{Squick}}.
*** Four words again: YourMileageMayVary.
*** Older gay men came out in a time when there was very little (if any) material--in any medium--which didn't portray homosexuals as criminal, sick or pitiable degenerates, ultimately doomed. Even post-Stonewall, it took awhile for positive portrayals to make their way to the Young Adult section (where they're '''still''' favored targets of would-be censors). So you took your [[HoYay scraps]] where you could find them. In a sufficiently barren environment, ''Lord of the Flies'' was (at least, in certain aspects) compelling.

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** One word: {{Squick}}.
*** Four words again: YourMileageMayVary.
***
Older gay men came out in a time when there was very little (if any) material--in any medium--which didn't portray homosexuals as criminal, sick or pitiable degenerates, ultimately doomed. Even post-Stonewall, it took awhile for positive portrayals to make their way to the Young Adult section (where they're '''still''' favored targets of would-be censors). So you took your [[HoYay scraps]] where you could find them. In a sufficiently barren environment, ''Lord of the Flies'' was (at least, in certain aspects) compelling.



** How anyone would include ''[[ANightmareOnElmStreet A Nightmare On Elm Street 2]]'' on a list of '''unintentionally''' gay horror movies is beyond this troper. [[http://www.freddyinspace.com/2008/08/why-is-nightmare-on-elm-street-2-so-gay.html Whole]] [[http://www.cinemademerde.com/Nightmare_on_Elm_2.shtml essays]] about how [[http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2005/09/youve_got_the_b.html gay]] that movie is have been written; [[http://www.amazon.com/Nightmare-Elm-Street-Freddys-Revenge/dp/0780630858 amazon.com]] lists "gay" and "gay horror" as story tags. It's pretty much all anyone talks about when that movie comes up.

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** How anyone would include ''[[ANightmareOnElmStreet A Nightmare On Elm Street 2]]'' on a list of '''unintentionally''' gay horror movies is beyond this troper.incomprehensible. [[http://www.freddyinspace.com/2008/08/why-is-nightmare-on-elm-street-2-so-gay.html Whole]] [[http://www.cinemademerde.com/Nightmare_on_Elm_2.shtml essays]] about how [[http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2005/09/youve_got_the_b.html gay]] that movie is have been written; [[http://www.amazon.com/Nightmare-Elm-Street-Freddys-Revenge/dp/0780630858 amazon.com]] lists "gay" and "gay horror" as story tags. It's pretty much all anyone talks about when that movie comes up.



*** Also, at a fan event including some of the cast and crew, the actors were asked about the relationship between Pintel and Ragetti, and their explanation was peppered with screenwriter Ted Elliot yelling, "'''Gay'''!" JohnnyDepp has also suggested that Jack is of a * ahem* ''resourceful'' orientation.

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*** ** Also, at a fan event including some of the cast and crew, the actors were asked about the relationship between Pintel and Ragetti, and their explanation was peppered with screenwriter Ted Elliot yelling, "'''Gay'''!" JohnnyDepp has also suggested that Jack is of a * ahem* ''resourceful'' orientation.



** ThisTroper decided that it meant the Spartans of ''300'' only loved manly, manly ''men''.

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** ThisTroper decided that it meant the The Spartans of ''300'' apparently only loved manly, manly ''men''.



** Allegedly, Dean instructed Mineo: "Look at me the way I look at Natalie [Wood, who played Judy]."
*** The director also apparently told him to look at Dean as though he was what he wanted most in the world; Mineo said he thought of his driver's license, being unable to acknowledge his crush on Dean to himself until later.

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** Allegedly, Dean instructed Mineo: "Look at me the way I look at Natalie [Wood, who played Judy]."
***
" The director also apparently told him to look at Dean as though he was what he wanted most in the world; Mineo said he thought of his driver's license, being unable to acknowledge his crush on Dean to himself until later.



** Hell yes, I saw it. [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001160.html So did T-Rex.]]
* ''DieAnotherDay'', or was I the only one who noticed? Nope, there's fic out there. Villains on the whole don't get... close with one another. It cuts down on the villainy factor. I kind of felt bad when they both died, though. So... foe-on-foe-yay?

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** Hell yes, I saw it. It's even lampshaded in this [[http://www.qwantz.com/archive/001160.html So did T-Rex.Dinosaur Comics strip.]]
* ''DieAnotherDay'', or was I and it wasn't just the only one who noticed? Nope, there's ShippingGoggles--there's fic out there. Villains on the whole don't get... close [[UnholyMatrimony close]] with one another. It cuts down on the villainy factor. I kind of felt bad when they both died, though. So... foe-on-foe-yay?



*** So it could possibly be a half-assed attempt at a witty reference? Or just... two North Koreans being gay. No need for an excuse. Bring it on.
** What about in ''{{GoldenEye}}'' when Alec is trying to seduce Natalia on the train, and he says "James and I shared everything...''Absolutely everything...''"?
* Upon re-viewing ''CasinoRoyale'', this troper just remembered why she ships Kratt/Le Chiffre. (Kratt's his henchman, the [[BaldOfEvil bald one]]. Mostly on the entirely overscrutinised basis of the occasional look, Kratt's status as henchman... henchperson... and the fact that if Bond gets to have someone good looking come over and kiss him on the cheek, she was actively expecting that to be Le Chiffre's own (slightly disturbing) response when Kratt walked up behind him at the table. Way to distract an entire table of poker players, Mads. That, and Le Chiffre's girlfriend sucks. And really, he doesn't care much about her either, judging by his lack of alarm at her impending dehanditation.
** ''QuantomOfSolace'', meanwhile, has Bond/Mathis. I ''cannot'' be the only person who realized the scene where [[spoiler:Mathis dies]] is more or less ''completely identical'' to a similar scene between [[DoctorWho the Doctor and the Master]], who have their own [[HoYay/LiveActionTV extensive Ho Yay entry]].

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*** So it could possibly be a half-assed attempt at a witty reference? Or just... two North Koreans being gay. No need for an excuse. Bring it on.
** What about Likewise in ''{{GoldenEye}}'' when Alec is trying to seduce Natalia on the train, and he says "James and I shared everything...''Absolutely everything...''"?
* Upon re-viewing ''CasinoRoyale'', this troper just remembered why she ships Kratt/Le Chiffre. Chiffre in ''CasinoRoyale'' (Kratt's his henchman, the [[BaldOfEvil bald one]]. Mostly on the entirely overscrutinised basis of the occasional look, Kratt's status as henchman... henchperson... and the fact that if Bond gets got to have someone good looking come over and kiss him on the cheek, she it seemed like something parallel was actively expecting that to be being set up for Le Chiffre's own (slightly disturbing) response when Kratt walked up behind him at the table. Way to distract an entire table of poker players, Mads. That, and Le Chiffre's girlfriend sucks. And really, he doesn't care much about her either, judging by his lack of alarm at her impending dehanditation.
** ''QuantomOfSolace'', meanwhile, has Bond/Mathis. I ''cannot'' be the only person who realized the The scene where [[spoiler:Mathis dies]] is more or less ''completely identical'' to a similar scene between [[DoctorWho the Doctor and the Master]], who have their own [[HoYay/LiveActionTV extensive Ho Yay entry]].



** This troper is glad to see she wasn't imagining the ridiculous amount of LesYay in this movie. What about the very typical of romance movies 'sad break up' music interlude where they're both sad and broken up without the other?
** Thirded, I just finished watching this, and the LesYay is pretty amazing. Not only is there 'sad break up' music, but there are several montages of the two girls together and a couple of fervent embraces complete with a moment that felt like an almost kiss in one of them.

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** This troper is glad to see she wasn't imagining the ridiculous amount of LesYay in this movie. What about And the very typical of romance movies 'sad break up' music interlude where they're both sad and broken up without the other?
** Thirded, I just finished watching this, and the LesYay is pretty amazing. Not only is there 'sad break up' music, but there are several montages of the two girls together and a couple of fervent embraces complete with a moment that felt like an almost kiss in one of them.



*** He basically calls Anthony a slut.
*** Uh, yeah. He's equal opportunity, and perving on Anthony, hard. When he says 'everything you've ever dreamed of doing with a woman' it apparently goes right over his head that out of the four he's named, only three are actually women.
** Never mind the expression on the Beadle's face as he throws Anthony into the street. "Next time, it'll be your pretty little brains all over the pavement." And the way he wields his cane...
*** Plus, near the end, Sweeney totally flirts Beadle into that chair.
*** I'm relieved someone else saw that! I mentioned it to my mates after we saw it and they nearly spewed across the table! The way the Beadle reacts makes it clear he thinks he's in for a bit of barbershop boinking.

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*** ** He basically calls Anthony a slut.
*** ** Uh, yeah. He's equal opportunity, and perving on Anthony, hard. When he says 'everything you've ever dreamed of doing with a woman' it apparently goes right over his head that out of the four he's named, only three are actually women.
** Never mind the expression on the Beadle's face as he throws Anthony into the street. "Next time, it'll be your pretty little brains all over the pavement." And the way he wields his cane...
***
cane... Plus, near the end, Sweeney totally flirts Beadle into that chair.
*** I'm relieved someone else saw that! I mentioned it to my mates after we saw it and they nearly spewed across the table! The way the Beadle reacts makes it clear he thinks he's in for a bit of barbershop boinking.
chair.



*** I always saw that more of him getting off to seeing Lucy violated.
* This troper's filthy mind made the fairly entertaining film ''DeadAgain'' miles more enjoyable. For one thing, it deals with themes of past lives, including one scenario where [[spoiler: the hero and heroine of the film are revealed to have been married in a past life as well- with the genders reversed, making the DoggedNiceGuy the damsel in distress. When he tried to tell this to one of his friends, he looked so embarrassed I expected one of them to ask 'so... does that make me gay?']] There's also ne scene in the very beginning where a supposed big secret that could solve the central murder case [[spoiler: turns out just to be the one guy acting like he's whispering something but instead kissing and evidently LICKING the other guy's ear before leaving death row to be executed.]] Probably intentional, but... why no fic for it?

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*** I always saw that more of him getting off to seeing Lucy violated.
* This troper's filthy mind The HoYay made the fairly entertaining film ''DeadAgain'' miles more enjoyable. For one thing, it deals with themes of past lives, including one scenario where [[spoiler: the hero and heroine of the film are revealed to have been married in a past life as well- with the genders reversed, making the DoggedNiceGuy the damsel in distress. When he tried to tell this to one of his friends, he looked so embarrassed I expected one of them to ask 'so... does that make me gay?']] There's also ne scene in the very beginning where a supposed big secret that could solve the central murder case [[spoiler: turns out just to be the one guy acting like he's whispering something but instead kissing and evidently LICKING the other guy's ear before leaving death row to be executed.]] Probably intentional, but... why no fic for it?



*** Oh, you mean [[TroperTales/FanNickname Jean-Baptiste]]? That scene was so unbelievably ho yay-ridden. (Just to add to the TomCruise and BradPitt gayfest, it's probably pretty damn intentional that Lestat and Louis' vampires-playing-house routine mirrors a really bad marriage, right down to the "[[TheBabyTrap if we have a kid together, he'll never be able to leave me!"]] deal.

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*** Oh, you mean [[TroperTales/FanNickname Jean-Baptiste]]? That scene was so unbelievably ho yay-ridden. (Just ** Just to add to the TomCruise and BradPitt gayfest, it's probably pretty damn intentional that Lestat and Louis' vampires-playing-house routine mirrors a really bad marriage, right down to the "[[TheBabyTrap if we have a kid together, he'll never be able to leave me!"]] deal.



* I always thought that Tiffany and Kirsty in {{Hellraiser}} seemed to be a [[HoYay bit more then friends]].

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* I always thought that Tiffany and Kirsty in {{Hellraiser}} also seemed to be a [[HoYay bit more then friends]].



** Oh, [[FetishFuel daaaaaaaamn]]. Definitely time to go see this movie. (What can I say? Abe's... special for me.)
** Oh, and don't forget Abe/Krauss. Yum.
* ''{{Newsies}}''. This troper is convinced that the subplot with Sarah was inserted purely to hide the HoYay between David and Jack Kelly. It didn't work.

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** Oh, [[FetishFuel daaaaaaaamn]]. Definitely time to go see this movie. (What can I say? Abe's... special for me.)
** Oh, and don't forget
And Abe/Krauss. Yum.
* ''{{Newsies}}''. This troper is convinced that the The subplot with Sarah was inserted purely to hide the HoYay between David and Jack Kelly. It didn't work.



** And in Transformers: Revange of the Fallen there is so much Ho Yay going on between Agent Simmons and Sam's friend, Leo, that this troper thinks they had more chemistry (or at least the same amount) as Sam and Mikaela.

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** And in Transformers: Revange of the Fallen there is so much Ho Yay going on between Agent Simmons and Sam's friend, Leo, that this troper thinks they possibly had more chemistry (or at least the same amount) as Sam and Mikaela.



* Blatantly portrayed in ''Infamous'', with a twisted relationship complete with steamy kiss between Truman Capote (Toby Jones) and Perry Smith (DanielCraig. Yes, JamesBond). More subtle in the ''other'' Truman Capote biopic, ''{{Capote}}'', but still present. Capote's real-life relationship with Perry Smith, one of two murderers he interviewed and corresponded with for five years while writing ''In Cold Blood'' has been the subject of much speculation for decades. Some of Capote's friends alleged that he'd been in love with Smith, and their letters to one another definitely come across as romantic. We do know that Capote bribed guards to allow him and Smith to be in a cell alone together, that Capote was unable to watch Smith hanged, and that Smith left him all his belongings after his death.
** How is this HoYay? Capote was a confirmed homosexual.
*** Yeah, but not with Perry Smith.

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* Blatantly portrayed in ''Infamous'', with a twisted relationship complete with steamy kiss between Truman Capote (Toby Jones) and Perry Smith (DanielCraig. Yes, JamesBond). More subtle in the ''other'' Truman Capote biopic, ''{{Capote}}'', but still present. Capote's real-life relationship with Perry Smith, one of two murderers he interviewed and corresponded with for five years while writing ''In Cold Blood'' has been the subject of much speculation for decades. Some of Capote's friends alleged that he'd been in love with Smith, and their letters to one another definitely come across as romantic. We do know that Capote bribed guards to allow him and Smith to be in a cell alone together, that Capote was unable to watch Smith hanged, and that Smith left him all his belongings after his death.
** How is this HoYay?
death. At least Capote was a is confirmed homosexual.
*** Yeah, but not with Perry Smith.
to be homosexual in real life.



** [[MayDecemberRomance 5 and 2 are boyfriends.]] I don't think you can even call it subtext, it's just right there.
*** "I knew you'd come." Enough said.
*** Hell, one of 5's first lines in the movie is "If 2 were here, he would have done a better job."

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** [[MayDecemberRomance 5 and 2 are boyfriends.]] I don't think you can even call it subtext, it's just right there.
***
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*** Hell, one of 5's first lines in the movie is "If 2 were here, he would have done a better job." "



**** According to the subtitles on the DVD, he's actually saying "I thought--" But you're right, it totally sounds like "My love!"



**** It helps too that the movie, at least in this troper's eyes, made a special point of shoulder touching among the cast, but only 5 and 2 (and 9 and 7, being the het. couple) touched hands (or at least had focal scenes on the hand touching; I could have missed something).
** While we're on the topic, it bears mentioning that 5 and 9 got ''really'' close, ''really'' fast.
*** 5 ''never. Stops. Touching him.''
*** This troper is a 5 x 2 shipper, but BY GOD many drinks were had during the 9 drinking game with these two. I think I giggled a bit when they were hiding from the Cat Beast and ''5 was clinging oh-so-manly-ish to 9.''
** Also, putting this out there: 1 and 8?
*** [[http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx206/ladysylvan/?action=view¤t=18-1.jpg This.]] That is all. (Not to mention, when they walk off together not a moment later, 8's arm is still around 1's shoulders.)
**** Yesssssssssssssssssssss, absolutely. 1 is somewhat of a Type A {{Tsundere}} with 8 as the DoggedNiceGuy in my head. Just [[YourMileageMayVary a lot less]] {{moe}}.
*** And on that note, what about 6 and 8?
**** I guess with the whole [[StalkerWithACrush Bully with a Crush]] thing [[BigGuy 8]] could have for [[MadOracle 6]], and [[ObliviousToLove 6]] just ''not getting it''? I've never really understood the roots of this particular ship, but that's what I always thought of it as.

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**** It helps too that the movie, at least in this troper's eyes, movie made a special point of shoulder touching among the cast, but only 5 and 2 (and 9 and 7, being the het. couple) touched hands (or at least had focal scenes on the hand touching; I could have missed something).
** While we're on the topic, it bears mentioning that
touching).
**
5 and 9 got ''really'' close, ''really'' fast.
***
fast. 5 ''never. Stops. Touching him.''
*** This troper is a 5 x 2 shipper, but BY GOD many drinks were had during the 9 drinking game with these two. I think I giggled a bit when they were hiding from the Cat Beast and ''5 was clinging oh-so-manly-ish to 9.''
** Also, putting this out there: 1 and 8?
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and .8? [[http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx206/ladysylvan/?action=view¤t=18-1.jpg This.]] That is all. (Not Not to mention, when they walk off together not a moment later, 8's arm is still around 1's shoulders.)
**** Yesssssssssssssssssssss, absolutely. 1 is somewhat of a Type A {{Tsundere}} with 8 as the DoggedNiceGuy in my head. Just [[YourMileageMayVary a lot less]] {{moe}}.
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** And on that note, what about 6 and 8?
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8? 6 gives off a [[StalkerWithACrush Bully with a Crush]] thing [[BigGuy 8]] could have for [[MadOracle 6]], and crush]] vibe, while 6 just [[ObliviousToLove 6]] just ''not getting it''? I've never really understood the roots of this particular ship, but that's what I always thought of it as.doesn't get it.]]



** As a fan of 9x6, I'd like to point out that 9 is the only one who talks to 6, and almost all of 6's lines (aside from saying "Sound!" into a gramophone) were to 9. If that isn't something to show a possible relationship (friendship or otherwise), I don't know what is.

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* ''Ghost'', Les Yay. At the end, it's really [[spoiler:Oda Mae that Molly is kissing]], though the audience sees [[spoiler:the ghost of Sam]]. The audience I saw this movie with were seriously squicked by this scene until [[spoiler:Sam's face was shown]].

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* ''Ghost'', Les Yay. At the end, it's really [[spoiler:Oda Mae that Molly is kissing]], though the audience sees [[spoiler:the ghost of Sam]]. The audience I saw this movie with were seriously squicked by this scene It was a bit squicky until [[spoiler:Sam's face was shown]].



* HOW have we gone this far without mentioning OceansEleven?! ThisTroper kept waiting for Rusty and Danny to make-out, they were so HoYay-licious. The Oprah-watching scene in the third movie, oh my lord ...

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* HOW have we gone this far without mentioning OceansEleven?! ThisTroper kept waiting for OceansEleven. Rusty and Danny to make-out, they were so HoYay-licious. take HeteroSexualLifePartners UpToEleven. The Oprah-watching scene in the third movie, oh my lord ...



* This troper found himself waiting for Naomi Watts and Laura Harring to start making out in ''MulhollandDrive''. [[spoiler: He got his wish.]]

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* How about ''Pee-Wee's Big Adventure'' for some examples of this in a kids' movie? The character of Mickey (who, let's not forget, is an ex-con and so has spent an AWFUL LOT of time in an all-male environment) rather pointedly tells Pee-Wee, "I like you, kid. I like you a LOT." I also have to wonder about the bikers in the bar when they gleefully threaten to tattoo Pee-Wee's body before they kill him.

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* How about ''Pee-Wee's Big Adventure'' for some examples of this in a kids' movie? The character of Mickey (who, let's not forget, is an ex-con and so has spent an AWFUL LOT of time in an all-male environment) rather pointedly tells Pee-Wee, "I like you, kid. I like you a LOT." I also have to wonder about And the bikers in the bar when they gleefully threaten to tattoo Pee-Wee's body before they kill him. him...



* Nowhere Boy- the film about the childhood and teenage experiences of John Lennon- has this between John and Paul in spades.
** 'course, John and Paul always had it, everywhere.

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** And for the girls, Mal walking close to Ariadne and asking her if she knows what it's like to be a lover. ItMakesSenseInContext, but...

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* Heather Graham has done two movies in which she makes out with a hot brunette. The first is in the comedy ''GrayMatters''(2006) where she shares a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qchq8c94f5U loooong kiss with her future sister in law played by the lovely Bridget Moynahan]]. The next year in the more dramatic ''{{Broken}}'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dhLz7Xpy8 Heather plays tonsil hockey with gorgeous Jessica Stroup]](Silver from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeverlyHills90210 90210)]]
** Let's hope this is a trilogy.

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* Heather Graham has done two '''five''' movies in which she makes out with a hot brunette. another woman. The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4p42yYvlRg first is time]] was in ''Terrified"' co-starring Lisa Zane in 1995, the comedy next year it was "'KissAndTell'' with Teresa Hill. Next was ''GrayMatters''(2006) where she shares a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qchq8c94f5U loooong kiss with her future sister in law played by the lovely Bridget Moynahan]]. The next year in the more dramatic ''{{Broken}}'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dhLz7Xpy8 Heather plays tonsil hockey with gorgeous Jessica Stroup]](Silver from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeverlyHills90210 90210)]]
** Let's hope this
90210)]]. The latest is a trilogy.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ0LKsCBUTc Boogie Woogie]] in 2009.
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** It is way too easy to make fun of third movie with the talks between Remus Lupin and Harry in some of the most romantic places I've ever seen; I'd want to go on dates in those places, not have a platonic conversation with my professor there. Then there's the rather bizarre hug between Remus and Sirius that comes off as both unnatural and strangely perverted on Remus's end. And the odd bit of dialogue when Remus is turning into a werewolf, via Sirius. Then there's another awkward hug-ish moment where Remus is holding Harry back from going after Sirius. It looks more like he's trying to smex him up than anything else. David Thewlis has also admitted to thinking that Remus was gay before it was revealed that Tonks and he start dating sometime in 6th book, if not 5th book. Not that that keeps him from being bisexual. Oh, and maybe it was because of the directing, since it's mostly in 3rd movie, but Harry had a few [[AmbiguouslyGay moments]] of his own. Mostly with Remus, but there were a few with Ron, Snape, and Sirius.
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** When Draco 'gatecrashes' the Slug Club party in HBP, Snape says he'll escort him out. The look Draco gives him is rather reminiscent to this Troper of a princess with her disapproved of suitor. Not to mention how 'I swore to protect you' afterwards sounded...
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** The Red Queen seemed mighty fond of Alice there for awhile...
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* The film of ''{{Chocolat}}'' lays the LesYay on thick between Josephine and Vianne. Whether this was intentional or merely the effect of Juliette Binoche wandering around is hard to tell.

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* There's a bit of this vibe between Velma and Roxie at the end of {{Chicago}}.

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**There's a little reciprication near the end. "Okay, fine, I missed you a little too."
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* ''TheNightmareBeforeChristmas'': of all the citizens of HalloweenTown, the Mayor seems the most worried when Jack goes missing -- and it doesn't look like just as a professional or as a friend, either. Also, there's really no reason why, when he decided to show, Jack had to announce his presence to [[BigBad Oogie Boogie]] looking like [[FoeYay he's trying to seduce him]].

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**Doson also tries to convince Prince Sawara to spend eternity with him, instead of with Sawara's girlfriend. He gets downright hysterical at the idea of the prince leaving. SoYeah... this guy is a big lump of FoeYay and HoYay.

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*''GingerSnaps'' has the titular Ginger and her sister Brigitte. SoYeah.

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* The two main characters of ''Bride Wars''...soooo much. ESPECIALLY when they were shown together as children. (True story: When ThisTroper initially saw the trailer, he thought it would be a touching story about the struggle of two lesbian girls...a couple scenes later, they're shown with fiancees...SoYeah.)
** Considering the first line of the trailer (paraphrased) is "The story I'm thinking of involves a bride and a bride?" It's hard to read that part as anything else.

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* The two main characters of ''Bride Wars''...soooo much. ESPECIALLY Especially when they were shown together as children. (True story: When ThisTroper initially saw the trailer, he thought it would be a touching story about the struggle of two lesbian girls...a couple scenes later, they're shown with fiancees...SoYeah.)
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* No mention of the StanleyKubrick film {{Film/Spartacus}}? The most explicit is the bath scene between Crassus and his slave, Antoninus, where Crassus 'clearly' attempts to seduce Antoninus, which prompts the poor slave to run away an join Spartacus. Plus, there is lots of Antoninus/Spartacus [[spoiler: before they are forced to fight to the death.]]

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* TheOtherGuys. Will Ferrell's acting like he's got a raging crush on Mark Wahlberg. Come on, who gets anyone a gift "just because I was thinking of you" without being at least a little romantically inclined towards them?
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** All of "Pretty Women" has an awfully homoerotic vibe, what with the way Sweeney and Turpin are all singing together while Sweeney rubs his hands around Turpin's face, neck, and shoulders. Very strong HoYay vibe, [[HaveIMentionedThatIAmHeterosexualToday despite the subject matter]].

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