History HoYay / BioWare

2nd Sep '17 5:33:32 AM HalcyonDayz
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** During the party after the main events of the "Citadel" DLC, Miranda and Jack (who have been at each other's throats since ''[=ME2=]'') find themselves seated across each other at the bar, trading insults (and occasional grudging compliments). Assuming Shepard romanced neither of them, he/she can actually call them out on this BelligerentSexualTension and suggest they just make up and make out. Both of them seem confused by, though not immediately opposed, to the idea. Jack will, if you took the time to talk with her in ME2, also mention that she'd been in relationships that included women before (though only when there was also a man as well).

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** During the party after the main events of the "Citadel" DLC, Miranda and Jack (who have been at each other's throats since ''[=ME2=]'') ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'') find themselves seated across each other at the bar, trading insults (and occasional grudging compliments). Assuming Shepard romanced neither of them, he/she can actually call them out on this BelligerentSexualTension and suggest they just make up and make out. Both of them seem confused by, though not immediately opposed, to the idea. Jack will, if you took the time to talk with her in ME2, ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'', also mention that she'd been in relationships that included women before (though only when there was also a man as well).
23rd Jul '17 6:50:01 PM Troperr2016
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* ''Videogame/MassEffectAndromeda'' also puts a good amount of ho yay with some of it including Liam and Jaal
** During one interaction between Liam and Jaal on the tempest, both of them are talking to each other about their armor. However the ho yay between them comes in with the manner in which they are "dressed" in this situation and by dressed that means Liam was not wearing a shirt and Jaal was completely naked. When asked about why they were in this kind of attire, Liam claims that he and Jaal are just "swapping armor" and then goes on to call Jaal a "weaseling adhi" in an way that is similar of how a wife would tease her husband.
* Avitus Rix is more focused on finding Macen Barro, the Turian pathfinder, than finding the Turian pathfinder. His attempts to find the Turian ark are clearly fueled by his wish to see Macen again, and Macen's final recording calls Avitus "Avi". The Codex entry for "The Andromeda Initiative - Pathfinders" actually states that their relationship might have been more than platonic.

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* ''Videogame/MassEffectAndromeda'' also puts a good amount of ho yay with some of it including Liam and Jaal
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** During one interaction between Liam and Jaal on the tempest, which is infamously known as the "shirtless diplomacy" scene, both of them are talking to each other about their armor. However the ho yay between them comes in with the manner in which they are "dressed" in this situation and by dressed that means Liam was not wearing a shirt and Jaal was completely naked. When asked about why they were in this kind of attire, Liam claims that he and Jaal are just "swapping armor" and then goes on to call Jaal a "weaseling adhi" in an way that is similar of how a wife would tease her husband.
* ** In one quest featuring Ryder making preparations for a movie night with the Nexus crew, the quest ends with a scene featuring Nakmor Drack sleeping on Ryder's shoulder while snoring very loudly. This moment happens if Ryder did not romance anyone prior to the quest and Drack does this for both the male and female versions of Ryder.
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Avitus Rix is more focused on finding Macen Barro, the Turian pathfinder, than finding the Turian pathfinder. His attempts to find the Turian ark are clearly fueled by his wish to see Macen again, and Macen's final recording calls Avitus "Avi". The Codex entry for "The Andromeda Initiative - Pathfinders" actually states that their relationship might have been more than platonic.
12th Jul '17 1:40:49 PM Killerikala
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* Avitus Rix is more focused on finding Macen Barro, the Turian pathfinder, than finding the Turian pathfinder. His attempts to find the Turian ark are clearly fueled by his wish to see Macen again, and Macen's final recording calls Avitus "Avi". The Codex entry for "The Andromeda Initiative - Pathfinders" actually states that their relationship might have been more than platonic.
23rd Mar '17 6:52:41 PM Troperr2016
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* ''Videogame/MassEffectAndromeda'' also puts a good amount of ho yay with some of it including Liam and Jaal
** During one interaction between Liam and Jaal on the tempest, both of them are talking to each other about their armor. However the ho yay between them comes in with the manner in which they are "dressed" in this situation and by dressed that means Liam was not wearing a shirt and Jaal was completely naked. When asked about why they were in this kind of attire, Liam claims that he and Jaal are just "swapping armor" and then goes on to call Jaal a "weaseling adhi" in an way that is similar of how a wife would tease her husband.
21st Feb '17 12:09:22 PM Allronix
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** The Shadow of Revan expansion includes an SIS agent and a Sith Lord as romantic options available for anyone regardless of gender or faction.
* Two of the informants on the Bounty Broker quests are very open to flirting, gender optional.

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** The Shadow of Revan expansion includes an SIS agent ([[TokenEvilTeammate Tharon Shan]]) and a Sith Lord ([[AntiVillain Lana Beniko]]) as romantic options available for anyone regardless of gender or faction.
faction. The romance arcs can continue into ''Knights of the Fallen Empire / Knights of the Eternal Throne''
* Two of the informants on the Bounty Broker quests are very open to flirting, gender optional.



* In the Shadow of Revan expansion, both [[AntiVillain Lana Beniko]] and [[TokenEvilTeammate Tharon Shan]] can be romanced by either playable gender


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23rd Dec '16 12:42:01 PM Allronix
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* Kaliyo and the female Agent. See, only the ''male'' specific content was cut from her dialogue--but Kaliyo is still pretty flirty outside it, and all but stated to be bisexual. [[note]] Made explicit as of ''Knights of the Eternal Empire'' if a female, non-Agent Outlander flirts with her. She admits that she's flattered, but while she's had flings with women, she's not able to have a serious relationship with one. [[/note]] With these in mind, some conversations are cast in a pretty suspicious light, such as the one where she suggests they run away and become pirates together.

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* Kaliyo and the female Agent. See, only the ''male'' specific content was cut from her dialogue--but Kaliyo is still pretty flirty outside it, and all but stated to be bisexual. [[note]] Made explicit as of ''Knights of the Eternal Empire'' if a female, non-Agent Outlander flirts with her. She admits that she's flattered, but while she's had flings with women, she's not able to have a serious relationship with one. Of course, aside from Male!Agent, it's possible she's not capable of a serious relationship with ''anyone.'' [[/note]] With these in mind, some conversations are cast in a pretty suspicious light, such as the one where she suggests they run away and become pirates together.
23rd Dec '16 12:41:08 PM Allronix
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* Kaliyo and the female Agent. See, only the ''male'' specific content was cut from her dialogue--but Kaliyo is still pretty flirty outside it, and all but stated to be bisexual. With these in mind, some conversations are cast in a pretty suspicious light, such as the one where she suggests they run away and become pirates together.

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* Kaliyo and the female Agent. See, only the ''male'' specific content was cut from her dialogue--but Kaliyo is still pretty flirty outside it, and all but stated to be bisexual. [[note]] Made explicit as of ''Knights of the Eternal Empire'' if a female, non-Agent Outlander flirts with her. She admits that she's flattered, but while she's had flings with women, she's not able to have a serious relationship with one. [[/note]] With these in mind, some conversations are cast in a pretty suspicious light, such as the one where she suggests they run away and become pirates together.
11th Jul '16 6:10:11 PM BattleMaster
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** The dialogues between Aria T'Loak and the turian biotic Nyreen in the ''Omega'' DLC suggest that their [[OldFlame past relationship]] went past mere [[SlapSlapKiss attraction and annoyance]] they claim it to have been. Later on, Nyreen turns her back to the enemies to protect Aria, while Aria [[spoiler:flies into an outright UnstoppableRage when Nyreen is killed]]. And if you go for the Renegade solution, Aria will kiss you; people have timed it, and female Shepard gets a significantly longer one.
** During the party after the main events of the "Citadel" DLC, Miranda and Jack (who have been at each other's throats since ''[=ME2=]'') find themselves seated across each other at the bar, trading insults (and occasional grudging compliments). Assuming Shepard romanced neither of them, he/she can actually call them out on this BelligerentSexualTension and suggest they just make up and make out. Both of them seem confused by, though not immediately opposed, to the idea.

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** The dialogues between Aria T'Loak and the turian biotic Nyreen in the ''Omega'' DLC suggest that their [[OldFlame past relationship]] went past mere [[SlapSlapKiss attraction and annoyance]] they claim it to have been. Later on, Nyreen turns her back to the enemies to protect Aria, while Aria [[spoiler:flies into an outright UnstoppableRage when Nyreen is killed]]. And if you go for the Renegade solution, Aria will kiss you; people have timed it, and female Shepard gets a significantly longer one.
one. Also, Aria has a very satisfied look on her face after kissing a female Shepard, but looks somewhat annoyed after kissing a male Shepard.
** During the party after the main events of the "Citadel" DLC, Miranda and Jack (who have been at each other's throats since ''[=ME2=]'') find themselves seated across each other at the bar, trading insults (and occasional grudging compliments). Assuming Shepard romanced neither of them, he/she can actually call them out on this BelligerentSexualTension and suggest they just make up and make out. Both of them seem confused by, though not immediately opposed, to the idea. Jack will, if you took the time to talk with her in ME2, also mention that she'd been in relationships that included women before (though only when there was also a man as well).
9th Jul '16 5:26:57 PM nombretomado
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-->'''David Gaider''', BioWare staff writer

BioWare has acquired a certain degree of fame (or infamy) in the video game industry for their LGBTFanbase, GayOption romance sidequests, and BiTheWay party members / {{NPC}}s/ {{PlayerCharacter}}s, as well as their spirited defense of all of the above. So if you see HoYay in a BioWare game, chances are it wasn't accidental.


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-->'''David Gaider''', BioWare [=BioWare=] staff writer

BioWare Creator/BioWare has acquired a certain degree of fame (or infamy) in the video game industry for their LGBTFanbase, GayOption romance sidequests, and BiTheWay party members / {{NPC}}s/ {{PlayerCharacter}}s, as well as their spirited defense of all of the above. So if you see HoYay in a BioWare [=BioWare=] game, chances are it wasn't accidental.




** Mind you, that e-mail was a ShoutOut to a particular fan on the old BioWare official forums, who was well-known there for ''her'' love for Thane before the game was even out (and the e-mail is in reference to her particular style of posting). But, as most of the salarians seen in-game are male, technically it still counts as ho yay.

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** Mind you, that e-mail was a ShoutOut to a particular fan on the old BioWare [=BioWare=] official forums, who was well-known there for ''her'' love for Thane before the game was even out (and the e-mail is in reference to her particular style of posting). But, as most of the salarians seen in-game are male, technically it still counts as ho yay.
9th May '16 7:21:31 PM Nylsa
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** Not to mention how awfully fond Isabela seems to be of Merrill, calling her "Kitten" and threatening Hawke (if s/he happens to be in a romance with Merrill)to hurt them bad if they hurt Merrill's feelings. Male Hawke, particularly:

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** Not to mention how awfully fond Isabela seems to be of Merrill, calling her "Kitten" and threatening to hurt Hawke (if s/he happens to be in a romance with Merrill)to hurt them bad Merrill) if they hurt Merrill's feelings. Male Hawke, particularly:



* While it wasn't until ''Mass Effect 3'' that the first careful steps where made to have a gay man appearing and actually spelling it out, the side Quest with the Viscounts son in ''Dragon Age 2'' seems to be set up in a way that you can see a very strong gay subtext if you want to, but it could also be completely nonexistent if that's your interpretation. But given that he repeatedly runs away with his muscular and exotic friend and the two of them hide out in the wilderness alone rather than staying with other Qunari in the region casts at least some doubt on his claim that he wants to learn about Qunari culture and that his fathers people should try to find ways to peacefully coexist with them. [[spoiler:He also takes it as a personal loss when the Qunari is killed and not as a setback to his diplomatic efforts.]] If it had been the Viscounts daughter, there wouldn't have been any doubt what's really going on. This was eventually confirmed by WordOfGay.

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* While it wasn't until ''Mass Effect 3'' that the first careful steps where were made to have a gay man appearing and actually spelling it out, the side Quest quest with the Viscounts Viscount's son in ''Dragon Age 2'' seems to be set up in a way that you can see a very strong gay subtext if you want to, but it could also be completely nonexistent if that's your interpretation. But given that he However, the son repeatedly runs away with his muscular and exotic friend friend, and the two of them hide out in the wilderness alone rather than staying with the other Qunari in the region casts region. This casts, at least least, some doubt on his claim that he wants to learn about Qunari culture and that his fathers father's people should try to find ways to peacefully coexist with them. [[spoiler:He also takes it as a personal loss when the Qunari is killed and not as a setback to his diplomatic efforts.]] efforts]]. If it had been the Viscounts Viscount's daughter, there wouldn't have been any doubt what's really going on. This was eventually confirmed by WordOfGay.



** Play female and talk to Juhani about Quatra in the grove. She will remark "In my own way, I truly loved her." It could be "merely" read as the whole Master/Padawan dynamic (the only love a Jedi is really allows to have), but Courtnay Taylor was apparently handed the memo about Juhani being gay. Knowing that this line is skipped over if the protagonist isn't female makes it read as a [[TrialBalloonQuestion Trial Balloon Statement]].
* Canderous declaring "I'm your man until the end" if you play a male Revan. This ''really'' isn't helped when Kreia in the sequel starts delivering a BreakingSpeech to him with lines like "Do you wonder where he wanders now, Mandalore? Why he gave you your orders, then abandoned you at the edge of the galaxy?" Furthermore, ExpandedUniverse material says that not only do the Mandos not particularly care about sexual orientation, but that (spoiler for ''Revan'') [[spoiler: Canderous shot his own wife to prevent her from killing Revan]].

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** Play female and talk to Juhani about Quatra in the grove. She will remark remark, "In my own way, I truly loved her." It could be "merely" read as the whole Master/Padawan dynamic (the only love a Jedi is really allows allowed to have), but Courtnay Taylor was apparently handed the memo about Juhani being gay. Knowing that this line is skipped over if the protagonist isn't female makes it read as a [[TrialBalloonQuestion Trial Balloon Statement]].
* Canderous declaring declaring, "I'm your man until the end" if you play a male Revan. This ''really'' isn't helped when Kreia in the sequel starts delivering a BreakingSpeech to him with lines like "Do you wonder where he wanders now, Mandalore? Why he gave you your orders, then abandoned you at the edge of the galaxy?" Furthermore, ExpandedUniverse material says that not only do the Mandos not particularly care about sexual orientation, but that (spoiler for ''Revan'') [[spoiler: Canderous shot his own wife to prevent her from killing Revan]].



* ''VideoGame/MassEffect1''. Sure, there's the canonical stuff (if you wish to pursue it) between female Shepard and Liara, but subtext-wise there's male Shepard/Kaidan. There are some lines to support it as well ("When it's just you and me, Alenko, consider it off the record..."), especially if you choose [[spoiler:to save Kaidan over Ashley.]]

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* ''VideoGame/MassEffect1''. ''VideoGame/MassEffect1'': Sure, there's the canonical stuff (if you wish to pursue it) between female Shepard and Liara, but subtext-wise there's male Shepard/Kaidan. There are some lines to support it as well ("When it's just you and me, Alenko, consider it off the record..."), especially if you choose [[spoiler:to save Kaidan over Ashley.]]Ashley]].



** Upon re-meeting Garrus his dialogue sounds weirdly intense, and he all but admits to being utterly lost without you. If you choose to wander about in between enemy waves, he'll say "I need you, Shepard" every ten seconds.
** Kaidan has only two scenes with Shepard in ''2'', and somehow manages to pack even more subtext than they did in the first game.
*** In the intro, if Ashley was sacrificed on Virmire and Liara was not romanced, Kaidan is placed in the love interest role even if Shepard is male. He is desperate to not leave Shepard behind, and only does so after Shepard pulls rank despite making it very clear that doing so tore him apart inside.

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** Upon re-meeting Garrus Garrus, his dialogue sounds weirdly intense, and he all but admits to being utterly lost without you. If you choose to wander about in between enemy waves, he'll say say, "I need you, Shepard" every ten seconds.
** Kaidan has only two scenes with Shepard in ''2'', and yet he somehow manages to pack even more subtext than they did in the first game.
*** In the intro, if Ashley was sacrificed [[spoiler:sacrificed on Virmire and Liara was not romanced, romanced]], Kaidan is placed in the love interest role even if Shepard is male. He is desperate to not leave Shepard behind, behin, and only does so after Shepard pulls rank despite making it very clear that doing so tore him apart inside.



** At the party after the main events of the "Citadel" DLC, Miranda and Jack (who have been at each other's throats since ''[=ME2=]'') find themselves seated across each other at the bar, trading insults (and occasional grudging compliments). Assuming Shepard romanced neither of them, he/she can actually call them out on this BelligerentSexualTension and suggest they just make up and make out. Both of them seem confused by, though not immediately opposed to the idea.

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** At During the party after the main events of the "Citadel" DLC, Miranda and Jack (who have been at each other's throats since ''[=ME2=]'') find themselves seated across each other at the bar, trading insults (and occasional grudging compliments). Assuming Shepard romanced neither of them, he/she can actually call them out on this BelligerentSexualTension and suggest they just make up and make out. Both of them seem confused by, though not immediately opposed opposed, to the idea.
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