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* While the opening is a DownerBeginning, it's only so because there's a few moments of genuine tenderness and camraderie that occur within it.
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* While the opening is a DownerBeginning, it's only so because there's a few moments of genuine tenderness and camraderie camaraderie that occur within it.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude. He also gives new tacks for the flock; so when Clive calls for Ambrosia, his traveling companions will also gain temporary moubts.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude. He also gives new tacks for the flock; so when Clive calls for Ambrosia, his traveling companions will also gain temporary moubts.mounts.
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* For everything that Waljas endured in the ''The Rising Tide'' DLC, his inner thoughts of other characters after being freed are just precious, alongside showing that he's finally going to get the normal upbringing he was denied.[[note]]The inner thought examples below are for before and after Waljas was taken under Shula's care.[[/note]]
-->'''Waljas''': Funny feeling./Who are all these people?
-->'''Clive''': Want cuddle./Shy man.
-->'''Torgal''': Furry boy./Smiley face.
-->'''Jill''': Nice lady./Smiley face.
-->'''Joshua''': Nice man./Smiley face.
-->'''Shula''': Feels like home./Mummy.
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* For everything that Waljas endured in the ''The Rising Tide'' DLC, his inner thoughts of other characters after being freed are just precious, alongside showing that he's finally going to get the normal upbringing he was denied.[[note]]The inner thought examples below are for before and after Waljas was taken under Shula's care.[[/note]]
-->'''Waljas''': Funny feeling./Who are all these people?
-->'''Clive''': Want cuddle./Shy man.
-->'''Torgal''': Furry boy./Smiley face.
-->'''Jill''': Nice lady./Smiley face.
-->'''Joshua''': Nice man./Smiley face.
-->'''Shula''': Feels like home./Mummy.
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** The follow-up sidequest, which is set after Clive had a HeroicBSOD over turning into Ifrit, has Clive deliver more food, this time to the non-Bearer residents who serve important roles in the Hideaway, such as the chocobo keepers, the healers, and the lockup guard. In the case of the last, the conversation shows that there's NothingPersonal over Clive having to be locked up: Clive shows no ill will for the guard for doing his job when he hands over the food; and the guard accepts it, noting that his job isn't exactly fun but it helps the people of the hideaway sleep easier at night, and just reminds Clive with a smile to not cause trouble.
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** The follow-up sidequest, which is set after Clive had a HeroicBSOD over turning into Ifrit, has Clive deliver more food, this time to the non-Bearer residents who serve important roles in the Hideaway, such as the chocobo keepers, the healers, and the lockup guard. In the case of the last, the conversation shows that there's NothingPersonal over Clive having to be locked up: Clive shows no ill will for the guard for doing his job when he hands over the food; and the guard accepts it, noting that his job isn't exactly fun but it helps the people of the hideaway sleep easier at night, and just reminds Clive with a smile to not cause trouble.
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** The follow-up sidequest has Clive deliver more food, this time to the non-Bearer residents who serve important roles in the Hideaway, such as the chocobo keepers, the healers, and the lockup guard. In the case of the last, Clive shows no ill will for the guard for doing his job when he hands over the food, and the guard accepts it, noting that his job isn't exactly fun but it helps people sleep easier at night, and just reminds Clive with a smile to not cause trouble.
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** The follow-up sidequest sidequest, which is set after Clive had a HeroicBSOD over turning into Ifrit, has Clive deliver more food, this time to the non-Bearer residents who serve important roles in the Hideaway, such as the chocobo keepers, the healers, and the lockup guard. In the case of the last, the conversation shows that there's NothingPersonal over Clive having to be locked up: Clive shows no ill will for the guard for doing his job when he hands over the food, food; and the guard accepts it, noting that his job isn't exactly fun but it helps the people of the hideaway sleep easier at night, and just reminds Clive with a smile to not cause trouble.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude. He also gives new tacks for the flock; so when Clive calls for Ambrosia, his traveling companions will also gain temporary moubts.
** Jill learns of this and pens a letter for Clive, glad to know that he and Ambrosia have reunited, and that Ambrosia has carried her master's desire to protect others over the past eighteen years.
** Given the cavalcade of heartbreaking events in the story at this point, Creative Business Unit III gave players a ray of hope with this sidequest, reminding them that there is still good to be found in Valisthea. In completing this quest, Clive saves a local Rosarian hero, defeats a band of bandits prowling around Martha's Rest, and is reunited with a long-lost friend.
** Jill learns of this and pens a letter for Clive, glad to know that he and Ambrosia have reunited, and that Ambrosia has carried her master's desire to protect others over the past eighteen years.
** Given the cavalcade of heartbreaking events in the story at this point, Creative Business Unit III gave players a ray of hope with this sidequest, reminding them that there is still good to be found in Valisthea. In completing this quest, Clive saves a local Rosarian hero, defeats a band of bandits prowling around Martha's Rest, and is reunited with a long-lost friend.
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* During one of the side-quests, Clive helps Otto settle some debts with the creditors and learns a bit of his backstory. After he returns to the Hideaway and talks with him, Otto divulges that he was lost and desperate after his son was killed for being a Bearer and that Cid gave him a reason to continue living. While looking through ledgers, Clive finds a note from Cid addressed to Otto where he claims the Hideaway wouldn't be able to exist without him. After reading the note, the surly steward says that both Cid and Clive are wrong and that it's not him who keeps the place running, but everyone involved, no matter how much, and gives Clive Cid's prized goblet while keeping the note for himself.
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* During one of the side-quests, Clive helps Otto settle some debts with the creditors and learns a bit of his backstory. After he returns to the Hideaway and talks with him, Otto divulges that he was lost and desperate after his son was killed for being a Bearer and that Cid gave him a reason to continue living. While looking through ledgers, Clive finds a note from Cid addressed to Otto Otto, where he claims the Hideaway wouldn't be able to exist without him. After reading the note, the surly steward says that both Cid and Clive are wrong and that wrong: it's not him who everyone involved in the Hideaway that keeps the place this haven running, but everyone involved, no matter how much, small their contribution, and gives Clive Cid's prized goblet while keeping the note for himself.
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** Apparently, Charon came across Goetz being treated horribly by his AbusiveParents. Appalled, Charon effectively bought Goetz off of them, losing a great deal of gil in the bargain, but not regretting it one bit since she saw Goetz as being worth more than the money she lost.
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--> ''Cid's note: "Love you, you grumpy old sod."''
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* The shear joy in Clive's voice and face when he and Jill see Lady Hanna Murdoch the widow of Lord Rodney who died at Phoenix Gate.
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* The fact that there is an achievement for petting Torgal a certain number of times will warm the heart of dog-lovers everywhere.
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* While trying to rescue Gav, the light finally returns to Clive's [[DullEyesOfUnhappiness eyes]] when Gav's gasp for help makes him recall Joshua's cry for help, spurring him to grab Gav's hand before the latter falls. He's not going to fail again—not as long as he's still breathing.
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* Martha revealing she uses the proceeds from her inn to buy the Bearer to give them somewhere safe to spend their last days.
* Cid trying to convince Clive to not be a 'slave' to his fate like someone he once knew who is implied to be Benedikta. Despite his snarking Cid genuinely shows he cares about Clive even asking Jill to look after him.
* Cid trying to convince Clive to not be a 'slave' to his fate like someone he once knew who is implied to be Benedikta. Despite his snarking Cid genuinely shows he cares about Clive even asking Jill to look after him.
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* Martha revealing she uses the proceeds from her inn to buy the Bearer any discarded Bearers to give them somewhere safe to spend their last days.
* Cid trying to convince Clive to not be a 'slave' to his fate like someone he once knew who is implied to be Benedikta. Despite hissnarking snarking, Cid genuinely shows he cares about Clive even asking Jill to look after him.
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* The sidequest "Food for Thought" has Clive serving hot food to people. He realizes all the people he served the food to are Bearers like himself who rarely, if ever, get a decent hot meal.
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* After learning that Clive is the Dominant of the Eikon that killed Joshua, Cid doesn't react with hostility or suddenly treat him worse because of it. The worst he does is just have Clive restrained in the Hideaway lockup, to keep him from doing something rash. After that, Cid unshackles Clive, returns his gear, and encourages him to find answers by following the mysterious man's trail. After what happened, Clive really needed a ReasonableAuthorityFigure like Cid, and Cid stepped up to the plate.
* As gruff as Clive is to most people after the first time-skip, he softens around Jill and she brings out his more compassionate side. After the 2nd time skip Clive has now become the new "Cid" and leads the new Hideaway softening up even more to where it's clear the whole Hideaway trusts him and he has found his [[TrueCompanions new family]].
* As gruff as Clive is to most people after the first time-skip, he softens around Jill and she brings out his more compassionate side. After the 2nd time skip Clive has now become the new "Cid" and leads the new Hideaway softening up even more to where it's clear the whole Hideaway trusts him and he has found his [[TrueCompanions new family]].
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* After learning that Clive is the Dominant of the Eikon that killed Joshua, Cid doesn't react with hostility or suddenly treat him worse because of it. The worst he does is just to knock the berserk Ifrit out with lightning, then have Clive restrained in the Hideaway lockup, to keep him from doing something rash. After that, Cid unshackles Clive, returns his gear, and encourages him to find answers by following the mysterious man's trail. After what happened, Clive really needed a ReasonableAuthorityFigure like Cid, and Cid stepped up to the plate.
* As gruff as Clive is to most people after the first time-skip, he softens around Jill and she brings out his more compassionate side. After the2nd second time skip Clive has now become the new "Cid" and leads the new Hideaway softening up even more to where it's clear the whole Hideaway trusts him and he has found his [[TrueCompanions new family]].
* As gruff as Clive is to most people after the first time-skip, he softens around Jill and she brings out his more compassionate side. After the
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* While trying to rescue Gav, the light finally returns to Clive's [[DullEyesOfUnhappiness eyes]] when Gav's gasp for help makes him recall Joshua's cry for help, spurring him to grab Gav's hand before the latter falls. He's not going to fail again—not as long as he's still breathing.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that "Food for Thought" has Clive had serving hot food to had been a noble of some sort, given people in the rareness of white chocobos hideaway. He realizes all the people he served the food to are Bearers like himself who rarely, if ever, get a decent hot meal, and her delighted reaction as ordinary people at that.
** The follow-up sidequest has Clive deliver more food, this time toClive, the non-Bearer residents who serve important roles in the Hideaway, such as the chocobo keepers, the healers, and the lockup guard. In the case of the last, Clive shows no ill will for the guard for doing his job when he hands over the food, and the guard accepts it, noting that his job isn't exactly fun but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia it helps people sleep easier at night, and just reminds Clive with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude.
smile to not cause trouble.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude.
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* During one of the sidequests, Clive helps Otto settle some debts with the creditors and learns a bit of his backstory. After he returns to the Hideaway and talks with him, Otto divulges that he was lost and desperate after his son was killed for being a Bearer and that Cid gave him a reason to continue living. While looking through ledgers, Clive finds a note from Cid addressed to Otto where he claims the Hideaway wouldn't be able to exist without him. After reading the note, the surly steward says that both Cid and Clive are wrong and that it's not him who keeps the place running, but everyone involved, no matter how much, and gives Clive Cid's prized goblet while keeping the note for himself.
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* During one of the sidequests, side-quests, Clive helps Otto settle some debts with the creditors and learns a bit of his backstory. After he returns to the Hideaway and talks with him, Otto divulges that he was lost and desperate after his son was killed for being a Bearer and that Cid gave him a reason to continue living. While looking through ledgers, Clive finds a note from Cid addressed to Otto where he claims the Hideaway wouldn't be able to exist without him. After reading the note, the surly steward says that both Cid and Clive are wrong and that it's not him who keeps the place running, but everyone involved, no matter how much, and gives Clive Cid's prized goblet while keeping the note for himself.
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* Cid trying to convince Clive to not be a 'slave' to his fate like someone he once knew who is implied to be Benedikta. Despite his snarking Cid genuinely shows he cares about Clive even asking Jill to look after him.
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* Clive willingly playing along with the old senile Bearer, who is moved to tears thinking he has finally been reunited with his beloved master, unaware that he is talking to Clive and not Lord Elwin.
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** It's a little subtle, but most of the people in the first Hideaway are referred to in their dialogue indicators by description. Such as "Besotted Bearer" or "Cheerful Maid", things like that. In the 2nd Hideaway, everyone has a name, showing that [[AFatherToHisMen Clive personally knows everyone he's leading.]]
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** Torgal remembering and recognizing Joshua, and sitting for pets.
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* When Clive, Joshua, and Torgal encounter even ''more'' Akashic after already facing a grueling gauntlet, Mid smashes the ''Enterprise'' into a wall, allowing Jill, Dion, and Gav to jump into the fray. After the cut scene fight, Clive and Jill hug tightly, while Joshua hugs Dion, who pats him warmly in return.
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* When Clive, Joshua, and Torgal encounter even ''more'' Akashic after already facing a grueling gauntlet, their allies arrive in true BigDamnHeroes fashion. Mid smashes the ''Enterprise'' into a wall, allowing Jill, Dion, and Gav to jump into the fray. After the cut scene fight, Clive and Jill hug tightly, while Joshua hugs Dion, who pats him warmly in return.
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* As gruff as Clive is to most people after the first time-skip, he softens around Jill and she brings out his more compassionate side.
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* As gruff as Clive is to most people after the first time-skip, he softens around Jill and she brings out his more compassionate side. After the 2nd time skip Clive has now become the new "Cid" and leads the new Hideaway softening up even more to where it's clear the whole Hideaway trusts him and he has found his [[TrueCompanions new family]].
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* Despite Anabella putting him through one hell of a life after the death of his father which she orchestrated, Clive's still a fundamentally good enough person that he doesn't want to see a person he hates suffer horribly for no reason. The same applies to Joshua.
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* Despite Anabella putting him through one hell of a life after the death of his father which she orchestrated, Clive's still a fundamentally good enough person that he doesn't want to see a person he hates suffer horribly for no reason. The same applies to Joshua.
Joshua. Neither one of the brothers even give her a ReasonYouSuckSpeech.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't pushes the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude.
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* Ambrosia not only managed to survive the events of Phoenix Gate, but raised a flock of her own, who all go out of their way to attack bandits waylaying travelers and townsfolk to the point of becoming local folk heroes as "Whiteheart and her flock". She is not only clearly ecstatic to be reunited with Clive, but recognizes and acknowledges Torgal as well. The merchant who gives the sidequest guesses that Clive had to had been a noble of some sort, given the rareness of white chocobos and her delighted reaction to Clive, but kindly doesn't pushes push the matter, only equipping Ambrosia with a new tack and an eye patch out of gratitude.
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* '''"Where There's A Will:"''' After Clive and Joshua finally reunites has the brothers go learn of Elwin's last will and retrieve their inheritance (an equip-able wristband), and Cyril of the Undying later recommends that they go pay their respects to the deceased Elwin. The only thing that the Undying were able to find was their father's helmet, placed at a memorial for past Rosarian dukes and duchesses. Just as the brothers are leaving after paying their respects, Elwin - or his spirit - briefly appears behind Clive, prompting him to immediately turn around and wonder if he's just imagining things. Joshua later places Elwin's helmet at the memorial display in Clive's room.
* '''"Priceless:"''' After completing the sidequest "Where There's A Will," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
* '''"Priceless:"''' After completing the sidequest "Where There's A Will," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
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* '''"Where There's A Will:"''' Will"''': After Clive and Joshua finally reunites has reunite, the brothers go learn of Elwin's last will and retrieve their inheritance (an equip-able wristband), and Cyril of the Undying later recommends that they go pay their respects to the deceased Elwin. The only thing that the Undying were able to find was their father's helmet, placed at a memorial for past Rosarian dukes and duchesses. Just as the brothers are leaving after paying their respects, Elwin - or his spirit - briefly appears behind Clive, prompting him to immediately turn around and wonder if he's just imagining things. Joshua later places Elwin's helmet at the memorial display in Clive's room.
*'''"Priceless:"''' '''"Priceless"''': After completing the sidequest "Where There's A Will," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
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* '''"Silver Linings:"''' Gav wants to create a charm in preparation for Edda's baby, asking Clive to help find a silver chocobo feather. Gav turns into a sputtering mess when presenting the good luck charm to Edda, which she greatly appreciates. While celebrating with Clive at the bar, Gav eventually reveals that when he was 10 years old, his mother was pregnant again, which he was initially excited about on wanting to prove he could be a big brother. Unfortunately, Imperials razed his village just as his mother went into labor and he lost his family alongside his new baby sister, leaving him the only survivor by hiding in the cellar. Clive cheers him up by noting about his resourcefulness as the Hideaway's best scout, as well his accomplishments in Rosalith on saving Clive and Jill. Gav leaves a flask of winter mead at the memorial display.
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* '''"Silver Linings:"''' Linings"''': Gav wants to create a charm in preparation for Edda's baby, asking Clive to help find a silver chocobo feather. Gav turns into a sputtering mess when presenting the good luck charm to Edda, which she greatly appreciates. While celebrating with Clive at the bar, Gav eventually reveals that when he was 10 years old, his mother was pregnant again, which he was initially excited about on wanting to prove he could be a big brother. Unfortunately, Imperials razed his village just as his mother went into labor labor, and he lost his family alongside his new baby sister, leaving him the only survivor by hiding in the cellar. Clive cheers him up by noting about his resourcefulness as the Hideaway's best scout, as well his accomplishments in Rosalith on saving Clive and Jill. Gav leaves a flask of winter mead at the memorial display.
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'''Clive:''' Which means...that when the time comes--\\
'''Gave:''' I get your room. And your sword.\\
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'''Gave:''' I get your room. And your sword.\\
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* The late-game sidequest "Where There's A Will" after Clive and Joshua finally reunites has the brothers go learn of Elwin's last will and retrieve their inheritance (an equip-able wristband), and then Cyril of the Undying recommends they go pay their respects to the deceased Elwin. The only thing that the Undying were able to find was their father's helmet, placed at a memorial for past Rosarian dukes and duchesses. Just as the brothers are leaving after paying their respects, Elwin - or his spirit - briefly appears behind Clive, prompting him to immediately turn around and wonder if he's just imagining things. Joshua later places Elwin's helmet at the memorial display in Clive's room.
* In the sidequest "Priceless," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
* In the sidequest "Priceless," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
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* The late-game sidequest "Where '''"Where There's A Will" after Will:"''' After Clive and Joshua finally reunites has the brothers go learn of Elwin's last will and retrieve their inheritance (an equip-able wristband), and then Cyril of the Undying later recommends that they go pay their respects to the deceased Elwin. The only thing that the Undying were able to find was their father's helmet, placed at a memorial for past Rosarian dukes and duchesses. Just as the brothers are leaving after paying their respects, Elwin - or his spirit - briefly appears behind Clive, prompting him to immediately turn around and wonder if he's just imagining things. Joshua later places Elwin's helmet at the memorial display in Clive's room.
*In '''"Priceless:"''' After completing the sidequest "Priceless," "Where There's A Will," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
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* '''"Silver Linings:"''' Gav wants to create a charm in preparation for Edda's baby, asking Clive to help find a silver chocobo feather. Gav turns into a sputtering mess when presenting the good luck charm to Edda, which she greatly appreciates. While celebrating with Clive at the bar, Gav eventually reveals that when he was 10 years old, his mother was pregnant again, which he was initially excited about on wanting to prove he could be a big brother. Unfortunately, Imperials razed his village just as his mother went into labor and he lost his family alongside his new baby sister, leaving him the only survivor by hiding in the cellar. Clive cheers him up by noting about his resourcefulness as the Hideaway's best scout, as well his accomplishments in Rosalith on saving Clive and Jill. Gav leaves a flask of winter mead at the memorial display.
--> '''Clive:''' Because you're our brother, Gav. ''My'' brother.\\
''(both men take a drink)''\\
'''Gave:''' Your brother...\\
'''Clive:''' Which means...that when the time comes--\\
'''Gave:''' I get your room. And your sword.\\
''(they chuckle and toast their tankards)''
--> '''Clive:''' Because you're our brother, Gav. ''My'' brother.\\
''(both men take a drink)''\\
'''Gave:''' Your brother...\\
'''Clive:''' Which means...that when the time comes--\\
'''Gave:''' I get your room. And your sword.\\
''(they chuckle and toast their tankards)''
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* A late-game sidequest that shows up after Clive and Joshua finally reunites has the brothers go pay their respects to the deceased Elwin. The only thing that Joshua was able to find was their father's helmet, placed at a memorial for past Rosarian dukes and duchesses. Just as the brothers are leaving, Elwin - or his spirit - briefly appears behind Clive, prompting him to immediately turn around and wonder if he's just imagining things. Elwin's helmet can be later found at the memorial display in Clive's room.
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* A The late-game sidequest that shows up "Where There's A Will" after Clive and Joshua finally reunites has the brothers go learn of Elwin's last will and retrieve their inheritance (an equip-able wristband), and then Cyril of the Undying recommends they go pay their respects to the deceased Elwin. The only thing that Joshua was the Undying were able to find was their father's helmet, placed at a memorial for past Rosarian dukes and duchesses. Just as the brothers are leaving, leaving after paying their respects, Elwin - or his spirit - briefly appears behind Clive, prompting him to immediately turn around and wonder if he's just imagining things. Joshua later places Elwin's helmet can be later found at the memorial display in Clive's room.
* In the sidequest "Priceless," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
--> '''Jill:''' You are ''my'' treasure.
* In the sidequest "Priceless," Joshua is worried about Jill and wants to find snow daisies to cheer her up. After clearing out the monsters occupying a field of snow daisies, Joshua [[ShipperOnDeck leaves it to Clive to take Jill]] back to the Royal Meadows. Both of them reminisce of how Clive had tried to take Jill to see snow daisies at Mann's Hill when they were kids, but he got sick in an unexpected thunderstorm. The two even share a kiss while discussing what might they do after. Jill later leaves behind a snow daisy garland in his room.
--> '''Jill:''' You are ''my'' treasure.
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* After learning that Clive is the Dominant of the Eikon that killed Joshua, Cid doesn't react with hostility or suddenly treat him worse because of it. The worst he does is just have Clive restrained in the Hideaway lockup, to keep him from doing something rash. After that, Cid unshackles Clive, returns his gear, and encourages him to find answers by following the mysterious man's trail.
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* After learning that Clive is the Dominant of the Eikon that killed Joshua, Cid doesn't react with hostility or suddenly treat him worse because of it. The worst he does is just have Clive restrained in the Hideaway lockup, to keep him from doing something rash. After that, Cid unshackles Clive, returns his gear, and encourages him to find answers by following the mysterious man's trail. After what happened, Clive really needed a ReasonableAuthorityFigure like Cid, and Cid stepped up to the plate.
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* The reveal that Margrace is Joshua - namely, [[BigDamnHeroes his hood falling down while he's rushing in to save Clive from Ultima]]. Keep in mind that Joshua ''knows'' Ifrit is Clive and that were it not for Phoenix, [[AccidentalMurder he would have been dead by Clive's hand]] - and Joshua ''refuses'' to hold it against him, since Joshua knows his brother, and knows he would have ''never'' hurt Joshua of his own free will. Clive didn't kill him after all, and at the end of the game he [[MyGreatestSecondChance gets to fulfill his duty as First Shield by saving the Dominant of Fire’s life.]]
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* The reveal that Margrace is Joshua - namely, [[BigDamnHeroes his hood falling down while he's rushing in to save Clive from Ultima]].Ultima's flame attack]]. Keep in mind that Joshua ''knows'' Ifrit is Clive and that were it not for Phoenix, [[AccidentalMurder he would have been dead by Clive's hand]] - and Joshua ''refuses'' to hold it against him, since Joshua knows his brother, and knows he would have ''never'' hurt Joshua of his own free will. Clive didn't kill him after all, and at the end of the game he [[MyGreatestSecondChance gets to fulfill his duty as First Shield by saving the Dominant of Fire’s life.]]
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* When Clive, Joshua, and Torgal encounter even ''more'' Akashic after already facing a grueling gauntlet, Mid smashes the ''Enterprise'' into a wall, allowing Jill, Dion, and Gav to jump into the fray. After the cut scene fight, Clive and Jill hug tightly, while Joshua hugs Dion, who pats him warmly in return.
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* The reveal that Margrace is Joshua - namely, [[BigDamnHeroes his hood falling down while he's rushing in to save Clive from Ultima]]. Keep in mind that Joshua ''knows'' Ifrit is Clive and that were it not for Phoenix, [[AccidentalMurder he would have been dead by Clive's hand]] - and Joshua ''refuses'' to hold it against him, since Joshua knows his brother, and knows he would have ''never'' hurt Joshua of his own free will.
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* The reveal that Margrace is Joshua - namely, [[BigDamnHeroes his hood falling down while he's rushing in to save Clive from Ultima]]. Keep in mind that Joshua ''knows'' Ifrit is Clive and that were it not for Phoenix, [[AccidentalMurder he would have been dead by Clive's hand]] - and Joshua ''refuses'' to hold it against him, since Joshua knows his brother, and knows he would have ''never'' hurt Joshua of his own free will. Clive didn't kill him after all, and at the end of the game he [[MyGreatestSecondChance gets to fulfill his duty as First Shield by saving the Dominant of Fire’s life.]]
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