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** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," cards]]." and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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*** Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
*** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
*** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
*** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
*** The original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role here and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.
*** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
*** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
*** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
*** The original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role here and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.
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*** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
*** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
*** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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*** Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a HeartwarmingMoment.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]]
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a HeartwarmingMoment.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]]
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**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a HeartwarmingMoment.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]]
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a HeartwarmingMoment.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.HeartwarmingMoment.
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*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.
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*** The original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role here and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
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*** The original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role here and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion.""
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler:probably playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler:when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH. *** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH.
* Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
* Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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** Even though you know The Joker was trying to insult him, his 'There will always be a place for you here' speech is a CMoH. *** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
* **** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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*** YMMV may vary on both of those. Consider Joker's line about the outside world being the asylum, and insanity being a safe place to hide. Consider Harvey's belief that God made the world because he made a scarred-side-up coin flip, and therefore all of existence is evil and painful. With both those things in mind, Harvey was [[spoiler: playing the coin-toss straight, since ceasing to exist, or being stuck permanently in an over-run Arkham and being slowly driven insane, would mean a cessation of pain and misery, whereas leaving would mean having to repeat the thankless cycle of going back to Gotham and feeding more criminals back into Arkham only for them to escape again (an act which is, in story, considered corruptive and evil by some).]] This troper would list this as an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, but she thought that was honestly how it was supposed to be read.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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**** [[WordOfGod Morrison's annotated script]] describes what [[spoiler: Two-Face]] did as an act of compassion, so that's not how it's supposed to be read.
**** Or [[TakeAThirdOption maybe it's both]]. [[spoiler:Remember, Harvey was once a lawyer. And what do lawyers do? Twist around the laws to get the result they want. And in the end, EVERY decision has its good and evil consequences, so one could make an argument for ANY action being good or evil. In other words, maybe Harvey, in his small moment of compassion, CONVINCED HIMSELF that letting Batman go was the evil option...]]
***** Or it was an act of compassion and you're looking for gold in a silver hallway.
**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]
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** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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** Also the very end of the novel. Dent looks at the Tarot deck which, despite the psychiatrist's good intentions in weaning him onto it to give him a broader range of choices, had psychologically paralyzed him to the point where he [[PottyFailure wet himself]] because it took too long to decide whether to go to the bathroom. He says, "[[AliceInWonderland "[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Who cares for you? You're nothing but a pack of cards]]," and knocks them onto the floor, indicating that he's finally able to make a decision entirely on his own.
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*** The original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role her and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
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*** The original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role her here and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
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**** Actually, WordOfGod says that he made that descision because it was April Fool's Day, thus the meaning of the scarred sign was reversed.
**** If so, then WordOfGod has flip-flopped; the original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role her and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
**** If so, then WordOfGod has flip-flopped; the original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role her and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
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**** If so, then WordOfGod has flip-flopped; the
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**** Actually, WordOfGod says that he made that descision because it was April Fool's Day, thus the meaning of the scarred sign was reversed.reversed.
**** If so, then WordOfGod has flip-flopped; the original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role her and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
**** If so, then WordOfGod has flip-flopped; the original script states: "Two-Face smiles a smile intended only for himself, slipping the coin into his breast pocket. At the end, he has transcended destiny and made himself free, if only for this one time of his life." The 15th anniversary annotation by Morrison further notes: "Harvey Dent transcends his role her and steps out of the game, ending it with an act of defiant compassion."
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**** Alternatively [[spoiler: Harvey's choice]] is supposed to lead to a [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliant]] CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: when God flipped the moon and it fell scar-side-up, He still made the world because some things are too important to leave to chance.]]