History Headscratchers / YuGiOh

25th Oct '17 8:08:28 AM DarkWorld
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See also the ''[[Headscratchers/YuGiOhGX GX]], [[Headscratchers/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's]]'', ''[[Headscratchers/YuGiOhZEXAL ZEXAL]]'', ''[[Headscratchers/YuGiOhARCV ARC-V]]'' and [[Headscratchers/YuGiOhCardGame card game]] Headscratchers pages.

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See also the ''[[Headscratchers/YuGiOhGX GX]], [[Headscratchers/YuGiOh5Ds 5D's]]'', ''[[Headscratchers/YuGiOhZEXAL ZEXAL]]'', ''[[Headscratchers/YuGiOhARCV ARC-V]]'' 5D's]], [[Headscratchers/YuGiOhZEXAL ZEXAL]], [[Headscratchers/YuGiOhARCV ARC-V]], [[Headscratchers/YuGiOhVRAINS VRAINS]]'' and [[Headscratchers/YuGiOhCardGame card game]] Headscratchers pages.
24th Oct '17 9:18:09 AM Kayube
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* The duel with the ventriloquist (manga)/fake ghost Kaiba (anime). Both versions of the duel have the BEWD self-destruct because of Kaiba (partly because of his hacking in the anime). This happens right in front of one of Pegasus' agents, who sure seems to act like he has judge duties of some sort. Why did he let this stand when it's completely outside the rules (even by Duelist Kingdom standards)? At best the duel should have been declared invalid and restarted; at worst, Pegasus could have achieved his goals right then and there by having Yugi declared the loser due to cheating.
23rd Oct '17 8:13:36 PM Kayube
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** It's explained in the manga before Yugi's duel with the Player Killer of Darkness that there are 40 contestants in Duelist Kingdom, with a total of 80 Star Chips, and the goal of the Player Killers is to take 40 chips from the duelists, with the remaining 40 going to the tournament finalists.

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** It's explained in the manga before Yugi's duel with the Player Killer of Darkness that there are 40 contestants in Duelist Kingdom, with a total of 80 Star Chips, and the goal of the Player Killers is to take 40 chips from the duelists, with the remaining 40 going to the tournament finalists. (Presumably, the chips that Mokuba stole from Yugi and the unnamed duelist that were knocked into the ocean wound up counted as part of the Killers' 40.)



** In the Japanese version, collecting the rest of the items wasn't part of the plan, he only needed the hologram technology. Beating Yugi was only required to get the Kaiba Corp executives on his side. As for why he put Yugi through the tournament, it's probably similar to the above explanation for why it was done in the dub; so that he might potentially not even have to bother with dueling Yugi personally. The Player Killers worked for him, so presumably Yugi being beaten by them would be considered a win for Pegasus, and if Yugi were somehow eliminated by another contestant, beating whoever eventually won would be like beating Yugi by proxy.

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** In the Japanese version, collecting the rest of the items wasn't part of the plan, he only needed the hologram technology. Beating Yugi was only required to get the Kaiba Corp executives on his side. As for why he put Yugi through the tournament, it's probably similar to the above explanation for why it was done in the dub; so that he might potentially not even have to bother with dueling Yugi personally. The Player Killers worked for him, so presumably Yugi being beaten by them would be considered a win for Pegasus, Pegasus (the dub makes this explicit at one point), and if Yugi were somehow eliminated by another contestant, beating whoever eventually won would be like beating Yugi by proxy.
16th Sep '17 6:14:19 PM WaterBlap
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** ...wait, what are you asking? If the card game itself can allow for it, or if the duel terminals and Duel Disks can actually keep up with it? Because between Kaiba's ruthless work ethic and Pegasus's naked insanity, it'd be really easy to believe that TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything.

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** ...wait, what are you asking? If the card game itself can allow for it, or if the duel terminals and Duel Disks can actually keep up with it? Because between Kaiba's ruthless work ethic and Pegasus's naked insanity, it'd be really easy to believe that TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything.it's been accounted for.
15th Sep '17 4:24:34 PM PandaXclone2
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* How exactly was Exodia's effect a mystery at first, I mean I think a few people mentioned that they could never figure out how exodia works...when how exactly it works should be written right on the main body card. if you want to say the whole you have all five pieces and you win the game thing was not written on the card then if you were not playing with holograms how would exactly would you prove that to your opponent? (Though to be honest as earlier headscrathers asked one has to wonder how this game was played without holograms to begin with before Kaiba's revisions.) Or were the pieces themselves quite common but Exodia main body was ridiculously rare to the point few people ever saw one.

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* How exactly was Exodia's effect a mystery at first, I mean I think a few people mentioned that they could never figure out how exodia Exodia works...when how exactly it works should be written right on the main body card. if If you want to say the whole you "You have all five pieces and you win the game game" thing was not written on the card card, then if you were not weren't playing with holograms how would exactly would you prove that to your opponent? (Though to be honest as earlier headscrathers asked Headscratchers asked, one has to wonder how this game was played without holograms to begin with before Kaiba's revisions.) Or were the pieces themselves quite common but Exodia main body Exodia's head was ridiculously rare to the point few people ever saw one.one?



* Speaking of Exodia how are the god cards stronger then him in the rules of the game itself? Would the god cards just reveal an exodia negation effect if someone actually tried to play that against someone with a god card on the field?

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* Speaking of Exodia Exodia, how are the god cards stronger then than him in the rules of the game itself? Would the god cards God Cards just reveal an exodia Exodia negation effect if someone actually tried to play that against someone with a god card God Card on the field?



** Actually, it's stated at the start of Yugi and Pegasus' duel, in the anime, that the challenger that wins, in this case Yugi, could select ''any'' prize that he wanted from Pegasus, that is within Pegasus' power to grant. It's mentioned that this could even be Pegasus' company. Therefore, ''anyone'' that defeated Pegasus could have asked for the souls to be returned to their proper bodies, just as Yugi did. So, both rewards, the money and the souls, were rewards that anyone could have gained. There's then the fact that none of the friends seem to ever consider the fact that 1)Yugi has stated he isn't in the tournament for the money previously and 2)Yugi could just give Joey the prize money for his sister's operation, which is what ends up happening anyways. The duel then, as others have mentioned, ensures that whoever wins and takes on Pegasus is the better duelist, thereby being the best man for the job.

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** Actually, it's stated at the start of Yugi and Pegasus' duel, in the anime, that the challenger that wins, in this case Yugi, could select ''any'' prize that he wanted from Pegasus, that is within Pegasus' power to grant. It's mentioned that this could even be Pegasus' company. Therefore, ''anyone'' that defeated Pegasus could have asked for the souls to be returned to their proper bodies, just as Yugi did. So, both rewards, the money and the souls, were rewards that anyone could have gained. There's then Then there's the fact that none of the friends seem to ever consider the fact that 1)Yugi has stated he isn't in the tournament for the money previously and 2)Yugi could just give Joey the prize money for his sister's operation, which is what ends up happening anyways. The duel then, as others have mentioned, ensures that whoever wins and takes on Pegasus is the better duelist, thereby being the best man for the job.



*** Then why didn't only Yugi pick those? you know, having then around all the time and by the final battle, summon all then to the field and blowing the BigBad.

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*** Then why didn't only Yugi pick those? you know, having then them around all the time and by the final battle, summon all then of them to the field and blowing the BigBad.



** He thinks Yugi 'redeemed' himself by beating Rafael, winning the title back, as well as Dartz, who Kaiba lost to ''with'' Yugi's help.

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** He thinks Yugi 'redeemed' "redeemed" himself by beating Rafael, winning the title back, as well as Dartz, who Kaiba lost to ''with'' Yugi's help.



He invited Joey because, for once, the tournament didn't have any stakes to it. If he chose not to invite Joey then Yugi wouldn't be happy.

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** He invited Joey because, for once, the tournament didn't have any stakes to it. If he chose not to invite Joey then Yugi wouldn't be happy.



*** My theory is that Thief King summoned Zorc to avenge Kul Elna. They aren't the same person and never actually merged, Zork though possessed Thief King and actually repressed him. There's a part in the Millenium World story where Zork stops controlling him and he sounds and acts differently then he was. Furthermore the spirit of the ring is only Zorc, Thief King's soul is in the ring too, but like before, its repressed.

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*** My theory is that Thief King summoned Zorc to avenge Kul Elna. They aren't the same person and never actually merged, Zork though possessed Thief King and actually repressed him. There's a part in the Millenium World story where Zork stops controlling him and he sounds and acts differently then than he was. Furthermore the spirit of the ring is only Zorc, Thief King's soul is in the ring too, but like before, its repressed.



* In the Millennium World manga/anime, why doesn't anyone move their ka's around more, to try to dodge attacks, and the like? They may be dueling, but they're not playing a card game, and trying to dodge and block would make more sense then letting your monster just float there, waiting to get hit by an attack that you ''know'' is going to hurt.

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* In the Millennium World manga/anime, why doesn't anyone move their ka's around more, to try to dodge attacks, and the like? They may be dueling, but they're not playing a card game, and trying to dodge and block would make more sense then than letting your monster just float there, waiting to get hit by an attack that you ''know'' is going to hurt.



** The duel against Arkana seems to have been added as a last-minute idea. In order to initiate the duel, you have to challenge one of the countless NPC characters in the overworld THEN start a conversation with him. There's no indication that this character is special or that you should engage him again after beating him once.

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** The duel against Arkana seems to have been added as a last-minute idea. In order to initiate the duel, you have to challenge one of the countless NPC characters in the overworld THEN overworld, ''THEN'' start a conversation with him. There's no indication that this character is special or that you should engage him again after beating him once.
15th Sep '17 12:19:36 PM bitemytail
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no Kaiba Corp Grand Prix in the manga. It just goes straight to the Millennium Arc after Battle City.

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* According to what I've heard, in the Manga, there is no Doma arc, it goes straight from Battle City to Kaiba Corp Grand Prix. So, Kaiba organised two contests back to back? Both directly after Duelist Kingdom?
** There was
no Kaiba Corp Grand Prix in the manga. It just goes straight to the Millennium Arc after Battle City.
4th Sep '17 9:33:25 AM WelcomeToYourTape
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* According to what I've heard, in the Manga, there is no Doma arc, it goes straight from Battle City to Kaiba Corp Grand Prix. So, Kaiba organised two contests back to back? Both directly after Duelist Kingdom?
** There was no Kaiba Corp Grand Prix in the manga. It just goes straight to the Millennium Arc after Battle City.

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* According to what I've heard, in the Manga, there is no Doma arc, it goes straight from Battle City to Kaiba Corp Grand Prix. So, Kaiba organised two contests back to back? Both directly after Duelist Kingdom?
** There was
no Kaiba Corp Grand Prix in the manga. It just goes straight to the Millennium Arc after Battle City.


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* Okay I realize this is a world where children's trading card games are SeriousBusiness but why do the characters (especially Tea) act like Joey and Yugi having to duel in the Duelist Kingdom's finals is the equivalent of Pegasus forcing a sadistic fight to the death? It's literally a win-win situation. Yugi wins and then beats Pegasus and he can fight Pegasus have his grandpa's soul free and give Joey the prize money. Joey wins and then beats Pegasus and he has the prize money for his sister's operation and can use Pegasus's one wish to free Yugi's grandpa's soul
1st Sep '17 5:35:20 AM PandaXclone2
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** IIRC, Seto had bought these cards off of (or taken them by force in some case) other duelists. The implication that they were put out into the world in the first place despite not wanting to print anymore than four suggests that they were likely prize cards in tournaments. Of course, if that were the case then the winner would probably feel ripped off if they weren't tournament legal cards. They wouldn't need to ban them then since only four people in the whole world would have one each, until Kaiba got his hands on them.

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** IIRC, Seto Kaiba mentions he had bought to bankrupt, threaten and even cause one duelist's suicide in order to obtain these cards off of (or taken them by force in some case) other duelists. The the manga. With that in mind, the implication that they were put out into the world in the first place despite not wanting to print anymore than four suggests that they were likely prize cards in tournaments. Of course, if that were the case then the winner winners would probably feel ripped off if they weren't tournament legal cards. They wouldn't need to ban them then since only four people in the whole world would have one each, until Kaiba got his hands on them.
22nd Aug '17 6:44:36 PM MetroSubwayAndroid
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* With a series so thoroughly populated by card game enthusiasts, why don't more characters use sleeves? If it's a compatibility issue with the Duel Disk technology, you'd think Kaiba would just [[MegaCorp put on his capitalist pants]] on and develop proprietary sleeves that ''are'' compatible.

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* With a series so thoroughly populated by card game enthusiasts, why don't more characters use sleeves? If it's a compatibility issue with the Duel Disk technology, you'd think Kaiba would just [[MegaCorp put on his capitalist pants]] on and develop proprietary sleeves that ''are'' compatible.
15th Aug '17 9:34:29 PM H.N.Levian
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** I think a better question would be, why does Dragon Master Knight ''exist'' in the first place? Even BEUD, which would only ever be played by Kaiba, didn't exist until part-way through Duelist Kingdom, and yet DMK just appears in Yugi's deck with no explanation. Why would anyone print (or, program, whatever) a card that nobody can play and then distribute it publicly rather than send a copy to the one person who ''can'' play it?
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