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* The danger of the Sentinels is that they're prepared to wipe out humanity, because mutants are a breed of humanity. So why are they still taking orders despite having caused a worldwide holocaust?
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* This is a bit hard to explain, but during the opening fight Blink opens a portal between herself and a Sentinel, dividing the room in two. The Sentinel steps into the portal and gets sent away, then immediately turns back and punches through it. Only his arm reappears on Blink's side of the room, impaling her. Shouldn't his arm have been teleported to the side of the room the Sentinel originally came from? This just violates the direction of travel the portal seems to be operating with.
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* This is a bit hard to explain, but during the opening fight Blink opens a portal between herself and a Sentinel, dividing the room in two. The Sentinel steps into the portal and gets sent away, then immediately turns back and punches through it. Only Except his arm reappears on Blink's side of the room, impaling her. Shouldn't his arm have been teleported to the side of the room the Sentinel originally came from? This just violates the direction of travel the portal seems to be operating with.with.
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* This is a bit hard to explain, but during the opening fight Blink opens a portal between herself and a Sentinel, dividing the room in two. The Sentinel steps into the portal and gets sent away, then immediately turns back and punches through it. Only his arm reappears on Blink's side of the room, impaling her. Shouldn't his arm have been teleported to the side of the room the Sentinel originally came from? This just violates the direction of travel the portal seems to be operating with.
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** [[SomewhereABiologistIsCrying Don't think too hard about Marvel's idea of genetics. Just...don't.]]
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** And maybe the portal cuts are something she doesn't know about yet. Maybe it just happens by fluke in some of the timelines, but because time keeps getting rewound she doesn't remember it. Bishop spends most of the battles under so he's not going to be able to tell her what she did in a different timeline.
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** Kitty says she can't send anyone back that far, and Wolverine is the first one to ever be sent back years. So they literally don't know if it will work or could work.
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** Does she know where he is? Don't Wolverine and co only know because future Erik told them where he was?
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** And Mystique is not expecting to be caught and imprisoned once she kills him. And she doesn't know the consequences of what she's about to do. That's kind of the reason they're trying to stop her in the first place.
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** Because that would require Mystique to be thinking clearly, when the film establishes that she's driven by anger over what Trask did and is most definitely not. She may have even been delivering a deliberate statement.
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* Why didn't Mystique shape-shift into a human and hire a human assassin to eliminate Trask? She could have been TheWomanBehindtheMan. That way, mutants won't be blamed for his murder, just some random sniper .
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* Why didn't Mystique shape-shift into a human and hire a human assassin to eliminate Trask? She could have been TheWomanBehindtheMan. That way, mutants won't be blamed for his murder, just some random sniper .sniper and his "mysterious boss".
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* Why didn't Mystique shape-shift into a human and hire a human assassin to eliminate Trask? She could have been the "behind the curtains" type of villain. That way, mutants won't be blamed for his murder, just some random sniper .
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** According to the wiki, he has the ability to travel at supersonic speeds, and his perception is accelerated as well; it's likely that when he starts moving in the scene you mention, it's showing what things look like from his perspective.
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** Simple explanation: In the X-Men movie timeline, the bullet ''did'' curve.
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Oliver Stone's "JFK" was fictional, y'all.
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** IRL the so-called "Magic Bullet" is a myth anyway. The term is used sarcastically by conspiracy theorists who claim that the official reports have a bullet making two or three impossible ninety degree turns mid-flight, thus proving the official report is a lie. This is an erroneous claim, however, because it assumes Connally was sitting directly in front of Kennedy, requiring the bullet to curve to hit them both. Connally, however, was sitting in a 'jumper seat' unique to the presidential limo, and was thus sitting in the middle of the car, diagonal to the president. When taking that into account, the bullet is shown to have travelled in a perfectly normal straight line through the two men. What this means for Magneto taking credit for the bullet curving is unknown. Likely the movie just ignores the reality in favor of continuing to perpetuate the well-known 'magic bullet' myth.
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** I don't buy it. Magneto has always had a NeverMyFault attitude towards human-mutant relations, so it'd be far more in character to blame the X-men for not allowing him to win the war before the sentinels were ever invented. Plus, his philosophy was never "no human will ever care for their mutant child or friend" but rather "humans are able and, under the right circumstances, willing to exterminate or subjugate us, so we should exterminate or subjugate them first," and from that perspective, he was right. That said, he didn't have much of a choice but to team up with the X-men once the sentinels were deployed, and he could have been only faking agreeing with Charles and hoping he wouldn't read his mind, or perhaps being around the X-men, and presumably their brief human allies, changed him eventually.
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** The whole point of having Beast's serum let Xavier walk was to clear up that continuity error of Xavier walking in the 80s. In the original timeline he obviously kept taking it until at least 1986 when he recruited Jean, whereas in the new timeline thanks to Logan he stops in 1973. Logan fighting in WW2 Europe has not been retconned at all.
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** The whole point of having Beast's serum let Xavier walk was to clear up that continuity error of Xavier walking in the 80s. In the original timeline he obviously kept taking it until at least 1986 when he recruited Jean, whereas in the new timeline thanks to Logan he stops in 1973. Logan fighting in WW2 [=WW2=] Europe has not been retconned at all.
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** Days of Future Past- good timeline or bad- is a direct prequel to "Logan". So it would make sense that he's starting to gray in Days when in Logan he looks old.
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** Days of Future Past- good timeline or bad- is a direct prequel to "Logan". So it would make sense that he's starting to gray in Days when in Logan he looks old.
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** Exactly. He'll never admit it, but the Deadpool we saw in his movie is most likely the son of the man who originally became Barakapool ((who also presumably met a "Mrs. Reynolds" one day). He was never born in the original timeline, and knowing about both of them is simple part of his ffourth-wall abilities.
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** Exactly. He'll never admit it, but the Deadpool we saw in his movie is most likely the son of the man who originally became Barakapool ((who (who also presumably met a "Mrs. Reynolds" one day). He was never born in the original timeline, and knowing about both of them is simple part of his ffourth-wall fourth-wall abilities.
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** Exactly. He'll never admit it, but the Deadpool we saw in his movie is most likely the son of the man who originally became Barakapool ((who also presumably met a "Mrs. Reynolds" one day). He was never born in the original timeline, and knowing about both of them is simple part of his ffourth-wall abilities.
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** The government probably doesn't even know the helmet does ''anything''. They may have thought it was part and parcel of Magneto being a FashionVictimVillain.
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** She only did that ''after'' breaking Havok and the other mutants out of the tent, to escape during the confusion. A lower-ranking female aide would attract much less notice under those circumstances. When she first arrived she appeared as a high-ranking male officer who ''did'' have authority.
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* I can't believe this hasn't been asked yet, but why did Mystique take the form of a woman on that army base? That'd stick out like a sore thumb in most of American history, and she'd carry no authority.
* I can't believe this hasn't been asked yet, but why did Mystique take the form of a woman on that army base? That'd stick out like a sore thumb in most of American history, and she'd carry no authority.
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** The movie makes it clear that Trask was inspired by the ending of X-Men First Class, where the USA and USSR team up against the mutants, and that he believes that he can unite all of humanity against the mutants and bring about an era of peace. The ending of First Class also contains two other key events: Xavier getting paralyzed, and Xavier and Magneto having their falling out, neither of which had happened yet when they went to recruit Jean Grey during the flashback in Last Stand. So no, they didn't exist in that timeline.
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** The movies have simply changed Erik's powers. He controls ferromagnetism, not all magnetism like in the comics. Furthermore, I'd need to look it up to be certain, but I'm pretty sure there all metals that conduct electricity without being magnetic. I know for a fact that ferromagnetism doesn't affect all metal; I think it's only iron, nickel and cobalt, as well as, obviously, any alloy consisting of them.
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** Kitty in the comics can phase into different planes of existence, explicitly noted as a quantum tunneling effect (she shifts through reality rather than just adjusting her own density). Based on that she could theoretically shift through time as she does through space and use her ability to phase others to achieve the effect she does.
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** That has nothing to do with it. Scott and Jean were both ''dead for two decades'' when this movie takes place. Rachel's existence is straight up impossible; not including her has nothing to do with a LoveTriangle subplot.
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** That has nothing to do with it. Scott and Jean were both ''dead for two decades'' when this movie takes place.place and they died in ''The Last Stand'', where they were shown to never have had kids. Rachel's existence is straight up impossible; not including her has nothing to do with a LoveTriangle subplot.
* As for the original point, ''Apocalypse'' confirms that Magnetos is Quicksilver's father.
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** If anything, Bishop and the others changing the timeline all the time should make Wolverine question whether that actually helps. The group has to keep doing it because the Sentinels keep finding and killing them, so it would really seem like they are only delaying the inevitable. And even if that wasn't the case, Bishop only changes a few days at best, Wolverine has to change several decades, so Beast's point could be considered valid by Wolverine.
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** If anything, Bishop and the others changing the timeline all the time should make Wolverine question whether that actually helps. The group has to keep doing it because the Sentinels keep finding and killing them, so it would really seem like they are only delaying the inevitable. Since Beast's comparison was a river current being disturbed but then correcting itself so in spite of one alternation, the main course is irreversible, which sounds smilier to Bishop's case. And even if that wasn't the case, Bishop only changes a few days at best, Wolverine has to change several decades, so Beast's point could be considered valid by Wolverine.
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* At the end of ''Days of Future Past'', we know that ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' never happens, which also means neither does ''Film/TheWolverine'', as it was directly driven by the events of ''X3''. Also, Jean Grey is alive and well, which causes problems with the ending of ''Film/X2XMenUnited''. On the other hand, Rogue is still sporting her SkunkStripe, which was caused by Magneto's machine in the [[Film/XMen original film]]. Not to mention Rogue is at the school at all, as is Wolverine. So that begs the question: What parts of the original trilogy's continuity are ''still'' in continuity? Did the events of ''X-Men'' and ''X2'' still happen, only in BroadStrokes with a few tweaks such as Jean not dying saving the others in ''X2''? Or is there some other explanation for details like Rogue's hair and both her and Logan still being X-Men? Or should it just be chalked up to the MST3KMantra?
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*** Well, there's the theory that regardless of his actor's height Trask is a perfectly average sized man (or perhaps only a little short). No one in the film comments on his height in any way, and Peter Dinklage has gone on record saying that one of his life's goals is "not playing a dwarf." Perhaps though an easier answer is that Trask knew he would have employees going into the vault to fetch him documents so he placed the scanner at a height easier for them to reach.
