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* We know that the Heart of Kandrakar cannot be taken by force, but only given over by the keeper. Therefore, before Cassidy got the Heart, Nerissa had to give it of her own free will. And if she did, how can the whole story about how Nerissa became corrupted and killed Cassidy because of jealousy make any sense? Either this is a plot hole, or the story the WITCH girls are told is a kind of JediTruth.

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* We know that the Heart of Kandrakar cannot be taken by force, but only given over by the keeper. Therefore, before Cassidy got the Heart, Nerissa had to give it of her own free will. And if she did, how can the whole story about how Nerissa became corrupted and killed Cassidy because of jealousy make any sense? Either this is a plot hole, or the story the WITCH girls are told is a kind of JediTruth.MetaphoricallyTrue.
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*** I reread the part and apparently, not even the Oracle can TAKE it. The Heart can however decide to leave on it's own, given a better choice. It's a living thinking thing. Likely what happened with Cassidy.

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*** I reread the part and apparently, not even the Oracle can TAKE it. The Heart can however decide to leave on it's its own, given a better choice. It's a living thinking thing. Likely what happened with Cassidy.
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** It's entirely possible that the old Guardians retain their youthful appearance when they transform, the same way the new Guardians appear older. This is what happens later when Nerissa reunites them under her control. They all appear young again. Their Guardian forms may just have a default age. Also, it was after the attack on Zamballa that Kamda left the Guardians and became their new Queen. So it's quite likely that was when the old Guardians decided to retire and then put up the Veil to keep Phobos from attacking anywhere else. As for Nerissa escape, she mentioned that a portal opened in her prison that let her escape. After that the Mage took her in for a few years, until Nerissa killed her and assumed her identify. And Julian did NOT know where the grave was. In O for Obedience, Nerissa told him where it was and said that 'numbers do not lie'. When Julian found the grave, he saw the date on it and realised that the real Mage died before Caleb was born, meaning Nerissa was Caleb's mother.
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* One thing that has always made scratch my head is all the aliens coming to Earth and fitting in with(seemingly)no help.When Orube comes, we see her get into all kinds of hilarious situations and needing the Guardians to help her, but with all the Metamoorians? The Browns and Mrs. Rudolph each have a house which is kind of hard to get without a bank account, Mrs. Rudolph can teach math,and Cedric even has a well-known business!How does this make sense? Then we see that people like Ludmoore and Elias came but in the past, which has another problem of how were there portals when it sounds like they only started appearing in the first issue... Not to mention we see that other Metamoorians in other issues try to come and no one wonders how and where they will live. In the ninth issue a family comes over, and they have Mrs. Rudolph's help, but you still need papers and bank accounts and all that, not to mention is that family stuck on Earth now that the Veil was removed? And in the Ludmoore arc, Mr.Collins mentions that strange creatures were seen there, so does that mean more aliens went to live on Earth and managed without any help?

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* One thing that has always made scratch my head is all the aliens coming to Earth and fitting in with(seemingly)no help.When Orube comes, we see her get into all kinds of hilarious situations and needing the Guardians to help her, but with all the Metamoorians? The Browns and Mrs. Rudolph each have a house which is kind of hard to get without a bank account, Mrs. Rudolph can teach math,and Cedric even has a well-known business!How does this make sense? Then we see that people like Ludmoore and Elias came but in the past, which has another problem of how were there portals when it sounds like they only started appearing in the first issue... Not to mention we see that other Metamoorians in other issues try to come and no one wonders how and where they will live. In the ninth issue a family comes over, and they have Mrs. Rudolph's help, but you still need papers and bank accounts and all that, not to mention is that family stuck on Earth now that the Veil was removed? And in the Ludmoore arc, Mr.Collins mentions that strange creatures were seen there, so does that mean more aliens went to live on Earth and managed without any help?help?
* Do the Guardians(in the comic)conjure their elements up out of thin air? In the cartoon, Cornelia says she can't conjure plants out of thin air but it's not clear if comic Cornelia has that limitation, and when comic Irma is able to conjure up water it's not said if she's using the moisture in the air or conjuring it up.
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* Can anyone explain WHAT THE HELL the Oracle was thinking when he imprisoned Nerissa? How on Earth were the other girls supposed to explain her disappearance to her family(and how did they)? The Guardians then were still Earth girls with families who most probably didn't know about their secrets so how can he think it was a good idea to make one of them disappear? Never mind the fact that leaving someone to rot in a stone coffin is not the way to make them repent. And of course, if Nerissa was able to do all those things like invade dreams can Will do that? And why didn't the Heart protect Cassidy, and how did the girls explain her disappearance? And what language was Halinor's diary written in and how did she learn it?

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* Can anyone explain WHAT THE HELL the Oracle was thinking when he imprisoned Nerissa? How on Earth were the other girls supposed to explain her disappearance to her family(and how did they)? The Guardians then were still Earth girls with families who most probably didn't know about their secrets so how can he think it was a good idea to make one of them disappear? Never mind the fact that leaving someone to rot in a stone coffin is not the way to make them repent. And of course, if Nerissa was able to do all those things like invade dreams can Will do that? And why didn't the Heart protect Cassidy, and how did the girls explain her disappearance? And what language was Halinor's diary written in and how did she learn it?it?
*One thing that has always made scratch my head is all the aliens coming to Earth and fitting in with(seemingly)no help.When Orube comes, we see her get into all kinds of hilarious situations and needing the Guardians to help her, but with all the Metamoorians? The Browns and Mrs. Rudolph each have a house which is kind of hard to get without a bank account, Mrs. Rudolph can teach math,and Cedric even has a well-known business!How does this make sense? Then we see that people like Ludmoore and Elias came but in the past, which has another problem of how were there portals when it sounds like they only started appearing in the first issue... Not to mention we see that other Metamoorians in other issues try to come and no one wonders how and where they will live. In the ninth issue a family comes over, and they have Mrs. Rudolph's help, but you still need papers and bank accounts and all that, not to mention is that family stuck on Earth now that the Veil was removed? And in the Ludmoore arc, Mr.Collins mentions that strange creatures were seen there, so does that mean more aliens went to live on Earth and managed without any help?

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*** It could also be that she's been receiving a lot of new information in relatively short time. She's suddenly the princess of another fantasy medieval world, she has an actual brother who's been missing her for years, her friends are apparently the oppressors of her world, and her parents aren't even her actual parents at all but her evil kidnappers. She doesn't know who to trust, if even her parents aren't who they claim to be. I reckon she was just confused and got closer to Cedric since he was the only one at the time who presented himself as an ally instead of an "enemy". Plus, since it was established that Will and Taranee had just recently arrived to Heatherfield, maybe she didn't trust them and felt they "corrupted" the team that had been established previously. Since all of the weird magic stuff happened just after Will came, it does feel a little coincidental.

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*** It could also be that she's been receiving a lot of new information in relatively short time. She's suddenly the princess of another fantasy world, one set in a medieval world, fantasy time with no means of technologically advancing to be up to date with our current world's technologies; she has an actual brother who's been missing her for years, her friends are apparently the oppressors enemies of her world, and her parents aren't even her actual parents at all but her evil kidnappers. She doesn't know who to trust, if even her parents aren't who they claim to be. I reckon she was just confused and got closer to Cedric since he was the only one at the time who presented himself as an ally instead of an "enemy". Plus, since it was established that Will and Taranee had just recently arrived to Heatherfield, maybe she didn't trust them and felt they "corrupted" the team that had been established previously. Since all of the weird magic stuff happened just after Will came, it does would feel a little coincidental.coincidental for her.


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** We see in a flashback that the earliest Guardians had more modest outfits, resembling Chinese hanfus (the comic basically suggests the origins of the Guardians on Earth began in ancient China). It seemed as time passed on the outfits changed to resemble the fashion of the times. There's even the idea that the outfits change based on the wearer's preferences and inner desires; based on how Cornelia, who tends to use long skirts or dresses, has an overly long skirt as her outfit. Will has low chest doubts and her Guardian form is more well endowed. Or how Hay Lin, who's in tune with her culture the most out of them all, has her outfit resembling a qipao. The girls in their natural forms are all pretty cute but plain and awkward looking at times and probably some of them wish to grow up to resemble a more beautiful and mature form (like how most teens wish to get out of their awkward acne-ridden teen phase to finally be beautiful young adults) It's probably a set of decisions and magic from the Heart of Kandrakar taking into considerations the girl's "heart's" desires.
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* Does anyone have an idea on how the magical outfits get chosen and how they appear? I mean, is there a laundry room or closet somewhere in Kandrakar filled with random shirts, skirts,shoes,and accessories in bright purple and blue that the Heart chooses from for each new generation? And how do these outfits get put together exactly, seeing as they just appear? Is there a fashion designer or is it completely random? And does each girl get her own closet? And what happens if the outfits get ripped or dirty like it sometimes happens in the comics? And how do the hairstyles get chosen and styled? I know I'm probably overthinking it, but someone mentioned it on tapatalk and now all I can think about is the girls trying to transform while some of the Elders of Kandrakar are grumbling and pulling out five sets of freshly laundered Guardian outfits from the dryer. And while we're on the subject, does anyone have the slightest idea on how the tights and color schemes for the tights and outfits got chosen?

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* Does anyone have an idea on how the magical outfits get chosen and how they appear? I mean, is there a laundry room or closet somewhere in Kandrakar filled with random shirts, skirts,shoes,and accessories in bright purple and blue that the Heart chooses from for each new generation? And how do these outfits get put together exactly, seeing as they just appear? Is there a fashion designer or is it completely random? And does each girl get her own closet? And what happens if the outfits get ripped or dirty like it sometimes happens in the comics? And how do the hairstyles get chosen and styled? I know I'm probably overthinking it, but someone mentioned it on tapatalk and now all I can think about is the girls trying to transform while some of the Elders of Kandrakar are grumbling and pulling out five sets of freshly laundered Guardian outfits from the dryer. And while we're on the subject, does anyone have the slightest idea on how the tights and color schemes for the tights and outfits got chosen?chosen?
*Can anyone explain WHAT THE HELL the Oracle was thinking when he imprisoned Nerissa? How on Earth were the other girls supposed to explain her disappearance to her family(and how did they)? The Guardians then were still Earth girls with families who most probably didn't know about their secrets so how can he think it was a good idea to make one of them disappear? Never mind the fact that leaving someone to rot in a stone coffin is not the way to make them repent. And of course, if Nerissa was able to do all those things like invade dreams can Will do that? And why didn't the Heart protect Cassidy, and how did the girls explain her disappearance? And what language was Halinor's diary written in and how did she learn it?
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* As every WITCH fan knows the comic does have a lot of plot-holes and inconsistencies, and while I do like the air of mystery it's very annoying as a fan and fanfiction writer to have to make assumptions on everything because the writers couldn't put in a few sentences explaining things in more detail. So here are a bunch of Phobos and Metamoor-related headscratchers that I hope fellow fans can help me answer. How old is Phobos? How powerful is he really? I mean, the Oracle had to isolate him and his world from the rest of the universe, but even if he's super powerful it's not that easy to conquer another world. Was Phobos planning on conquering other worlds in the first place, and how was he planning to get there? Can anyone just make a portal? Was Metamoor familiar with other planets? Was Phobos the the first male Escanor with such powers? How does the power of the Light of Meridian get passed down? Does it immediately go to the first-born daughter as soon as she's born, and does that mean the Queen has no more magic after? Can other Escanor children other than the Light be born with powers or was Phobos the only one? Is the Light of Meridian more powerful than the Heart of Kandrakar? Is Phobos really more powerful than all five Guardians put together and the Heart considering he overpowered them so easily or was it only due to their inexperience? How do the portals and time difference work? Is Ludmoore more powerful than the Guardians considering they didn't use their powers to free Matt? I have so much questions and would really appreciate it if people would try to help me answer them, and if you know if the authors answered any of these questions in an interview in English please tell me. Maybe we can also put other headscratchers here for other WITCH plotholes.

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* As every WITCH fan knows the comic does have a lot of plot-holes and inconsistencies, and while I do like the air of mystery it's very annoying as a fan and fanfiction writer to have to make assumptions on everything because the writers couldn't put in a few sentences explaining things in more detail. So here are a bunch of Phobos and Metamoor-related headscratchers that I hope fellow fans can help me answer. How old is Phobos? How powerful is he really? I mean, the Oracle had to isolate him and his world from the rest of the universe, but even if he's super powerful it's not that easy to conquer another world. Was Phobos planning on conquering other worlds in the first place, and how was he planning to get there? Can anyone just make a portal? Was Metamoor familiar with other planets? Was Phobos the the first male Escanor with such powers? How does the power of the Light of Meridian get passed down? Does it immediately go to the first-born daughter as soon as she's born, and does that mean the Queen has no more magic after? Can other Escanor children other than the Light be born with powers or was Phobos the only one? Is the Light of Meridian more powerful than the Heart of Kandrakar? Is Phobos really more powerful than all five Guardians put together and the Heart considering he overpowered them so easily or was it only due to their inexperience? How do the portals and time difference work? Is Ludmoore more powerful than the Guardians considering they didn't use their powers to free Matt? I have so much questions and would really appreciate it if people would try to help me answer them, and if you know if the authors answered any of these questions in an interview in English please tell me. Maybe we can also put other headscratchers here for other WITCH plotholes.plotholes.
*Does anyone have an idea on how the magical outfits get chosen and how they appear? I mean, is there a laundry room or closet somewhere in Kandrakar filled with random shirts, skirts,shoes,and accessories in bright purple and blue that the Heart chooses from for each new generation? And how do these outfits get put together exactly, seeing as they just appear? Is there a fashion designer or is it completely random? And does each girl get her own closet? And what happens if the outfits get ripped or dirty like it sometimes happens in the comics? And how do the hairstyles get chosen and styled? I know I'm probably overthinking it, but someone mentioned it on tapatalk and now all I can think about is the girls trying to transform while some of the Elders of Kandrakar are grumbling and pulling out five sets of freshly laundered Guardian outfits from the dryer. And while we're on the subject, does anyone have the slightest idea on how the tights and color schemes for the tights and outfits got chosen?
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* I've always wondered;can cartoon WITCH get the same powers as comic WITCH and vice-versa? For example,does comic Will have super-strength and can she shoot lightning and open folds? Can cartoon Irma turn people into frogs? And in both versions, now that the Heart absorbed the Seal of Phobos,can Will and all future Keepers shoot black lightning and summon that black gunk? And comic-wise, does anyone know all their secondary powers? In every arc if not every new issue they're all displaying new powers and we don't get any explanations.

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* I've always wondered;can cartoon WITCH get the same powers as comic WITCH and vice-versa? For example,does comic Will have super-strength and can she shoot lightning and open folds? Can cartoon Irma turn people into frogs? And in both versions, now that the Heart absorbed the Seal of Phobos,can Will and all future Keepers shoot black lightning and summon that black gunk? And comic-wise, does anyone know all their secondary powers? In every arc if not every new issue they're all displaying new powers and we don't get any explanations.explanations.
* As every WITCH fan knows the comic does have a lot of plot-holes and inconsistencies, and while I do like the air of mystery it's very annoying as a fan and fanfiction writer to have to make assumptions on everything because the writers couldn't put in a few sentences explaining things in more detail. So here are a bunch of Phobos and Metamoor-related headscratchers that I hope fellow fans can help me answer. How old is Phobos? How powerful is he really? I mean, the Oracle had to isolate him and his world from the rest of the universe, but even if he's super powerful it's not that easy to conquer another world. Was Phobos planning on conquering other worlds in the first place, and how was he planning to get there? Can anyone just make a portal? Was Metamoor familiar with other planets? Was Phobos the the first male Escanor with such powers? How does the power of the Light of Meridian get passed down? Does it immediately go to the first-born daughter as soon as she's born, and does that mean the Queen has no more magic after? Can other Escanor children other than the Light be born with powers or was Phobos the only one? Is the Light of Meridian more powerful than the Heart of Kandrakar? Is Phobos really more powerful than all five Guardians put together and the Heart considering he overpowered them so easily or was it only due to their inexperience? How do the portals and time difference work? Is Ludmoore more powerful than the Guardians considering they didn't use their powers to free Matt? I have so much questions and would really appreciate it if people would try to help me answer them, and if you know if the authors answered any of these questions in an interview in English please tell me. Maybe we can also put other headscratchers here for other WITCH plotholes.
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* Is Elyon the Queen of the whole planet of Metamoor? I know all the action takes place in Meridian because it's the capital but no one mentions other cities or going to the other end of the planet or anything. No one mentions governors or mayors or anything of the sort either so does that mean she has to do everything herself?

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* Is Elyon the Queen of the whole planet of Metamoor? I know all the action takes place in Meridian because it's the capital but no one mentions other cities or going to the other end of the planet or anything. No one mentions governors or mayors or anything of the sort either so does that mean she has to do everything herself?herself?
* I've always wondered;can cartoon WITCH get the same powers as comic WITCH and vice-versa? For example,does comic Will have super-strength and can she shoot lightning and open folds? Can cartoon Irma turn people into frogs? And in both versions, now that the Heart absorbed the Seal of Phobos,can Will and all future Keepers shoot black lightning and summon that black gunk? And comic-wise, does anyone know all their secondary powers? In every arc if not every new issue they're all displaying new powers and we don't get any explanations.
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** Original poster here. Thank you for your suggestions as this is really confusing and since I plan on addressing this in my fanfiction either as a oneshot or in a flashback I want to make sure that the reason I give Elyon for acting the way she did is plausible and makes sense. There are also a bunch of other things that aren't explained that bother me like why and how was Ludmoore able to make portals and why did the people going through them end up in different time periods, how did Cedric get a business without raising suspicion and how did he get the knowledge and funds to run it, and how bad was Phobos's rule already? We see life is hard for the people but they're going about their daily lives and they're not running in terror from soldiers and being dragged off the streets and we know they don't have a lot of food but we don't see any starving skeletons so it seems they have enough. Again, I do plan on putting all this in my fanfiction and I want to make sure it makes sense.
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* It seems to me that Will holds the Idiot Ball a lot when it comes to using the Heart. She could've used it against Phobos or used it to get Matt out of the book. Aside from not having a plot or cool battle scenes, are there any other reasons why this would be? You'd also think she'd ask the Oracle what powers they each have and what the limits are. In a lot of issues they use powers that aren't explained or introduced and we don't know if all the girls can use them or only a specific Guardian( for example, the other girls use some type of transfiguration at some point or another but Irma is the only one who turns people into animals, and then only into toads. Is that because there's limits to her power or she just never experimented? Can the other girls turn people into animals or only the Water Guardian Can)?

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* It seems to me that Will holds the Idiot Ball a lot when it comes to using the Heart. She could've used it against Phobos or used it to get Matt out of the book. Aside from not having a plot or cool battle scenes, are there any other reasons why this would be? You'd also think she'd ask the Oracle what powers they each have and what the limits are. In a lot of issues they use powers that aren't explained or introduced and we don't know if all the girls can use them or only a specific Guardian( for example, the other girls use some type of transfiguration at some point or another but Irma is the only one who turns people into animals, and then only into toads. Is that because there's limits to her power or she just never experimented? Can the other girls turn people into animals or only the Water Guardian Can)?Can)?
* Is Elyon the Queen of the whole planet of Metamoor? I know all the action takes place in Meridian because it's the capital but no one mentions other cities or going to the other end of the planet or anything. No one mentions governors or mayors or anything of the sort either so does that mean she has to do everything herself?
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** What is established clearly (and there's no {{Retcon}} IIRC) is that Elyon was taken away just around the time Phobos ascended to the Throne/their parents ''disappearance''. While I like the theory of the troper above me, I reckon it's simply to have this idea that he probably manipulated his parents and put them against one another, and when they were vulnerable enough be done with them. Also, poison is often a weapon in these types of killings. I wouldn't think much about it tho, the comic's always been inconsistent with Phobos' age. In the first issues it was implied he was as old as a thousand years (but that cannot be, considering Elyon aged like a normal girl), then roughly seemed to be in his late 20s, and then his ascension to the throne seemed to happen either in his late childhood or late teens...


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*** It could also be that she's been receiving a lot of new information in relatively short time. She's suddenly the princess of another fantasy medieval world, she has an actual brother who's been missing her for years, her friends are apparently the oppressors of her world, and her parents aren't even her actual parents at all but her evil kidnappers. She doesn't know who to trust, if even her parents aren't who they claim to be. I reckon she was just confused and got closer to Cedric since he was the only one at the time who presented himself as an ally instead of an "enemy". Plus, since it was established that Will and Taranee had just recently arrived to Heatherfield, maybe she didn't trust them and felt they "corrupted" the team that had been established previously. Since all of the weird magic stuff happened just after Will came, it does feel a little coincidental.
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* How on Earth did Takeda make a portal to another world using cold? And why would he blame the Guardians for what happened to Mariko, never mind knowing about them and their powers in the first place? And how could Mariko's and Shinobu's minds go to the Fast World while everyone else went with their Physical bodies?

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* How on Earth did Takeda make a portal to another world using cold? And why would he blame the Guardians for what happened to Mariko, never mind knowing about them and their powers in the first place? And how could Mariko's and Shinobu's minds go to the Fast World while everyone else went with their Physical bodies?bodies?
* It seems to me that Will holds the Idiot Ball a lot when it comes to using the Heart. She could've used it against Phobos or used it to get Matt out of the book. Aside from not having a plot or cool battle scenes, are there any other reasons why this would be? You'd also think she'd ask the Oracle what powers they each have and what the limits are. In a lot of issues they use powers that aren't explained or introduced and we don't know if all the girls can use them or only a specific Guardian( for example, the other girls use some type of transfiguration at some point or another but Irma is the only one who turns people into animals, and then only into toads. Is that because there's limits to her power or she just never experimented? Can the other girls turn people into animals or only the Water Guardian Can)?
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** How on Earth did Takeda make a portal to another world using cold? And why would he blame the Guardians for what happened to Mariko, never mind knowing about them and their powers in the first place? And how could Mariko's and Shinobu's minds go to the Fast World while everyone else went with their Physical bodies?

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** * How on Earth did Takeda make a portal to another world using cold? And why would he blame the Guardians for what happened to Mariko, never mind knowing about them and their powers in the first place? And how could Mariko's and Shinobu's minds go to the Fast World while everyone else went with their Physical bodies?
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** Actually, since Hallinor and Kadma where expelled from Kandrakar, if she's dead(which is the most likely option) she simple passed on to the in-universe afterlife

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** How on Earth did Takeda make a portal to another world using cold? And why would he blame the Guardians for what happened to Mariko, never mind knowing about them and their powers in the first place? And how could Mariko's and Shinobu's minds go to the Fast World while everyone else went with their Physical bodies?
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** So does that mean that they could've defeated Phobos but the Heart didn't give them enough power? We see it can act by itself when it absorbed the Seal of Phobos in issue 3 and shrunk the scuttler in issue 10, so it could've just shrunk Phobos or something. And I'm sure it could've easily taken out Nerissa and gotten Matt out of the book. Can it see in the future and didn't act because it knew everything would work out or does it only act by itself when the girls are in immediate danger?
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** I wrote a fanfiction about this(of course since it is a fanfiction it isn't canon but I believe it's very plausible)and in it Phobos turned his parents into roses then shredded and burned them. Usurping the kingdom was easy because he was the only heir left, but as I'm typing this I'm wondering if any of his parents had relatives that could've made a claim and if they did. I really need the creators to write a special about Phobos's backstory, can someone please make a petition?

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*** It really depends on what and how they told her. She is told she is the magical princess of another dimension, but they're trapped by the evil kandrakar, she gets some biased demonstrations, and then she sees her friends transforming and fighting "her" people. She got tricked by using a standard Magical Girl origin story.



** The Aurameres are the "essence" of the elements, and the Heart is merely a way for them to access it. Even Will is only using what the Heart allows(It is a sentient thing).



** Actually, since Hallinor and Kadma where expelled from Kandrakar, if she's death(which is the most likely option) she simple passed on to the in-universe afterlife

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** That may be true, but it still doesn't explain why she thought her friends were evil just because a man she just met told her so. For example, I reread issue 5 and she says the Guardians are responsible for the people of Meridian's pain because they can't leave due to the Veil. But like I said before, only two people told her that story and she immediately believes it and attacks her friends, never mind the other two times she'd attacked them. You would think she'd ask a few more people or ask her friends for their side of the story. You'd also think she'd wonder why her brother isn't doing more to help the people if he's so powerful.

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