History Headscratchers / VforVendetta

23rd Apr '17 9:24:59 AM SkidTroper
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** It's not just that he considers himself monstrous. V is an Ubermensch, and he wants a new world to rise from Norsefire's shadow, but he also DOESN'T want this new world to be based, defined or dependant on ''him''. Likely because he doesn't want to repeat Jesus' mistake, trying to guide people and then having people run away with his beliefs and corrupt them to try and lord over others, or be made into a leader and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters then become as corrupt and despotic as Sutler]]. Like he tells Evy, the new world needs to be shaped by new people, and the choices must be their own, without any influence. [[FridgeBrilliance Which fits the True Anarchy concept, of society rulling itself without the need of leaders or religions to control what they view as right or wrong]]. Movie!V is still an anarchist, only a more subtle one than Comic!V.

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** It's not just that he considers himself monstrous. V is an Ubermensch, and he wants a new world to rise from Norsefire's shadow, but he also DOESN'T want this new world to be based, defined or dependant on ''him''. Likely because he doesn't want to repeat Jesus' mistake, trying to guide people and then having people run away with his beliefs and corrupt them to try and lord over others, or be made into a leader and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters then become as corrupt and despotic as Sutler]]. Like he tells Evy, the new world needs to be shaped by new people, and the choices must be their own, without any influence. [[FridgeBrilliance Which fits the True Anarchy concept, of society rulling ruling itself without the need of leaders or religions to control what they view as right or wrong]]. Movie!V is still an anarchist, only a more subtle one than Comic!V.




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** He was serving as a symbol to rally around so he could spearhead these ideas. His death in the movie is an altered version from the comics (on a side, people perverting Jesus' teachings is not Jesus' mistake, the onus lies on the people who do so and a lack of understanding about Jesus whatever your views on Him. Such a claim is FlameBait, either use RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement or avoid the topic altogether).
10th Mar '17 2:55:07 AM Iku
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*** They micromanage those below them. But they absolutely enforce orders from the top without question and micromanage to enable those orders without question.
24th Feb '17 7:34:06 AM nobrandhero
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*** When the two detectives are talking about what's about to happen, and it keeps cutting back to shots of that stuff happening, there's a cut from them saying "This is what he wants...he wants..." and then cuts to a guy shouting "Anarchy in the UK!" and shooting up a convenience store. That's about the closest the movie ever comes to it, I think. It definitely makes the 'anarchy = chaos' assumption.




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*** The "Anarchy in the UK!" guy is sporting a pretty nice piece. I'm sure V wouldn't have any trouble getting whatever guns he wanted, if he wanted them. He just likes knives and isn't sane. There's probably not that much more to it.
24th Feb '17 7:21:49 AM nobrandhero
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** You're missing that V is just trying to get people to rise up against the government in order to force the government to crack down harder and thus cause an even greater uprising. He's not trying to free them from surveillance or any other little gesture like that. He's trying to destroy society itself so that maybe something better can take its place. Lying to said society in order to trick it into destroying itself isn't hypocrisy, it's a tactic he uses consistently and effectively throughout the series.
15th Sep '16 11:42:58 PM damnedifiaint
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** They ''did'' kill him with what they had - just not quite quickly enough. They combed the area for traps and the like to make sure he didn't have something nasty in store, but it was a perfectly reasonable assumption that if it came down to shooting, 13 professional killers could take down one man.
8th Sep '16 5:24:01 AM Riley1sCool
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** A lot of people think of anarchists as bad guys, like how V sees himself. However, V figures that there are better anarchists in the world, who will solve the problems themselves. Also, this entire question is more or less a cheap shot at anarchic philosophy. It's quite realistically portrayed.

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** A lot of people think of anarchists as bad guys, like how V sees himself. However, V figures that there are better anarchists in the world, who will solve the problems themselves. Also, this entire question themselves, unlike him, who is more or less a cheap shot at anarchic philosophy. It's quite realistically portrayed.
simply trying to solve problems.
19th Jul '16 8:29:37 PM Varia_Heimt
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** He might have been trying to make a martyr out of himself for V's cause because A) He clearly believed in it enough to do something as risky as releasing something on TV to the whole nation about it and B) Because he knew he'd go down one day anyway for all the illegal things he kept in his home, so why not make some good out of it? Nothing moves people like a (already extremely popular) martyr.
19th Jul '16 8:25:51 PM Varia_Heimt
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*** He probably overestimated the amount of time he'd have to get her out of the house, thought that she would leave of her own accord somehow after seeing the program, or yes, forgot about her entirely when he made the switch in scripts.
19th Jul '16 8:13:34 PM Varia_Heimt
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** It's pretty likely also that, since the assumption is that everything aired is government-approved (and that it's been that way for the last twenty years or so)then since this show obviously is to then it's okay to laugh at the jokes presented there. Either that or that the people are meant to laugh at it (it is a comedy sketch), although the former is more likely for that point in the film/current events.
24th Jun '16 12:07:17 AM Luppercus
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** V is a very clever strategist and observer, he has been planning this for years and he has access to security footage all over the country. Is possible that he studied which of all government offices was the most lazy and which of all forms of communications was the least supervised, besides people doesn't use the traditional mail much using more phones, emails and the like so probably the government focus attention in that media and not in mail. It was, after all, a surprise for everyone to recieve the packages; expect the unespected, no one really expected that the "terrorist" was gonna use the least common method of mail.
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