History Headscratchers / VforVendetta

24th Jun '16 12:07:17 AM Luppercus
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** V is a very clever strategist and observer, he has been planning this for years and he has access to security footage all over the country. Is possible that he studied which of all government offices was the most lazy and which of all forms of communications was the least supervised, besides people doesn't use the traditional mail much using more phones, emails and the like so probably the government focus attention in that media and not in mail. It was, after all, a surprise for everyone to recieve the packages; expect the unespected, no one really expected that the "terrorist" was gonna use the least common method of mail.
22nd Jun '16 1:28:51 AM Luppercus
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** That's not quite true, we've seen cases like the Arab Spring which happened in countries like Egypt and Libya that had very decent standards of living, for the Middle East standards at least, especially Lybia that had one of the largest middle classes in Africa, some rebellions in Latin America were made purely out of ideological reasons and motivations especially between liberals and conservatives and these rebellions were generally made by people from the middle class up (as, naturally, most liberals and other ideological fighters tend to be educated and have enough standards of living as to have time to thing about politics and ideology). Ukraine is another example of a country with pretty decent standards of living that had popular uprisings. There are many examples of countries with authoritarian governments but reasonably good way of living were popular uprisings happened.

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** That's not quite true, we've seen cases like the Arab Spring which happened in countries like Egypt and Libya that had very decent standards of living, for the Middle East standards at least, especially Lybia that had one of the largest middle classes in Africa, some rebellions in Latin America were made purely out of ideological reasons and motivations especially between liberals and conservatives and these rebellions were generally made by people from the middle class up (as, naturally, most liberals and other ideological fighters tend to be educated and have enough standards of living as to have time to thing think about politics and ideology). Ukraine is another example of a country with pretty decent standards of living that had popular uprisings. There are many examples of countries with authoritarian governments but reasonably good way of living were popular uprisings happened.
22nd Jun '16 1:27:51 AM Luppercus
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** That's not quite true, we've seen cases like the Arab Spring which happened in countries like Egypt and Libya that had very decent standards of living, for the Middle East standards at least, especially Lybia that had one of the largest middle classes in Africa, some rebellions in Latin America were made purely out of ideological reasons and motivations especially between liberals and conservatives and these rebellions were generally made by people from the middle class up (as, naturally, most liberals and other ideological fighters tend to be educated and have enough standards of living as to have time to thing about politics and ideology). Ukraine is another example of a country with pretty decent standards of living that had popular uprisings. There are many examples of countries with authoritarian governments but reasonably good way of living were popular uprisings happened.
22nd Jun '16 1:15:58 AM Luppercus
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**Hmm, we have some very authoritarian governments in the West too. Some people may consider Thatcher's era an example, though not at the same level of Mao or Hitler of course. Berlusconi is another example, not to mention cases like Venezuela and Mexico (yes, Latin America is part of the West), and people in those countries still mocked their presidents and had comedic programs making fun of them. Yes, the dictatorship shown in the movie and comic is more authoritarian than these examples, but I'm under the impression is not ''as'' hard as Mao's China or Hitler's Germany, more akin to modern China, an even less democratic Venezuela or a place like the US or the UK if people like Bush or Thatcher just suddenly said; screw it, no more democracy nor election, now we run the place permanently (yes, it will be a dictatorship but certain degree of freedom, including mocking the goverment, will remain).
2nd May '16 1:08:39 PM Riley1sCool
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** A lot of people think of anarchists as bad guys, like how V sees himself. However, V figures that there are better anarchists in the world, who will solve the problems themselves. Also, this entire question is more or less a cheap shot at anarchic philosophy. It's quite realistically portrayed.




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** Who said it's a willing workforce? Nobody says Norsefire wouldn't ''make'' people work for them.



* When the civilian surround Westminster you can clearly see from the aerial shots that they right up at the perimeter of the building on Bridge Street and St Margaret Street. The explosion is quite big. Anyone at the front would of been killed by flying debris.

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* When the civilian surround Westminster you can clearly see from the aerial shots that they right up at the perimeter of the building on Bridge Street and St Margaret Street. The explosion is quite big. Anyone at the front would of have been killed by flying debris.
** Because of the fact that if it did, it would ruin the film's ending. Seeing the revolution's frontrunners dying because of debris in the front would have just looked extremely ''stupid'' even though it's probably in-character for V.



*** "Rockwood's" story, and the journal from the female scientist would say otherwise. The journal says V was the one case that gave her hope that all of her research wouldn't be lost, then in Rockwood's story he talks about how they developed the virus from V's blood. Even if that were true that would mean they were starting over after V and that doesn't make sense how they came into power in the first place to round up the people.

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*** "Rockwood's" "Rockwood's/" story, and the journal from the female scientist would say otherwise. The journal says V was the one case that gave her hope that all of her research wouldn't be lost, then in Rockwood's story he talks about how they developed the virus from V's blood. Even if that were true that would mean they were starting over after V and that doesn't make sense how they came into power in the first place to round up the people.
2nd May '16 1:01:12 PM Riley1sCool
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22nd Apr '16 5:12:57 AM Killztwice
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** Simple answer is that they were already in power to a certain extent, just not in complete power. Sutler, Creedy, and others were all government or military officials with enough pull to get the Larkhill project up and running and cover it up, but they didn't run the country entirely. The country was apparently already going pretty far right with Sutler's conservative party sweeping elections, but it seems before the St. Mary's incident it was at least somewhat divided.
20th Dec '15 4:40:18 PM nombretomado
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** [[VoodooShark Maybe]] they just ... [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy le]][[TheSilmarillion ft]]?

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** [[VoodooShark Maybe]] they just ... [[Franchise/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy le]][[TheSilmarillion le]][[Literature/TheSilmarillion ft]]?
9th Dec '15 11:12:46 AM somellama
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*** "Rockwood's" story, and the journal from the female scientist would say otherwise. The journal says V was the one case that gave her hope that all of her research wouldn't be lost, then in Rockwood's story he talks about how they developed the virus from V's blood. Watch it again.

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*** "Rockwood's" story, and the journal from the female scientist would say otherwise. The journal says V was the one case that gave her hope that all of her research wouldn't be lost, then in Rockwood's story he talks about how they developed the virus from V's blood. Watch it again.
Even if that were true that would mean they were starting over after V and that doesn't make sense how they came into power in the first place to round up the people.
9th Dec '15 11:10:39 AM somellama
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***"Rockwood's" story, and the journal from the female scientist would say otherwise. The journal says V was the one case that gave her hope that all of her research wouldn't be lost, then in Rockwood's story he talks about how they developed the virus from V's blood. Watch it again.
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