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** There could be multiple reasons, it might have to be direct sunlight as you said, it could be that vampires gain partial immunity to sunlight as they age, Reid is kind of special as vampires go, being a direct fledgling of Myrddin, maybe being that close to a "source" makes certain issues that the other vampires get.
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** There could be multiple reasons, it might have to be direct sunlight as you said, it could be that vampires gain partial immunity to sunlight as they age, Reid is kind of special as vampires go, being a direct fledgling of Myrddin, maybe being that close to a "source" makes certain issues that the other vampires get.get.
** Has to be direct sunlight. In the intro Reid spends some time outside after being burned by the sun.
** Has to be direct sunlight. In the intro Reid spends some time outside after being burned by the sun.
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** He is shot right after that part.
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* While he is established to be WeakenedByTheLight, the epilogue at Elizabeth's castle shows Jonathan walking outside before sunset without it harming him. Is it only direct sunlight that he can't stand?
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** There could be multiple reasons, it might have to be direct sunlight as you said, it could be that vampires gain partial immunity to sunlight as they age, Reid is kind of special as vampires go, being a direct fledgling of Myrddin, maybe being that close to a "source" makes certain issues that the other vampires get.
** There could be multiple reasons, it might have to be direct sunlight as you said, it could be that vampires gain partial immunity to sunlight as they age, Reid is kind of special as vampires go, being a direct fledgling of Myrddin, maybe being that close to a "source" makes certain issues that the other vampires get.
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** The way I understood it, it was Myrddin, but Sir William, being a devout Christian, interpreted him as being the Archangel Michael due to being an incorporeal entity capable of bestowing eternal life and incredible power. Myrddin probably just let him believe whatever made him comfortable with becoming a vampire. As Myrddin notes, he has been known by countless names throughout history, so it's possible Michael was one of them.
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** The way I understood it, it was Myrddin, but Sir William, being a devout Christian, interpreted him as being the Archangel Michael due to being an incorporeal entity capable of bestowing eternal life and incredible power. Myrddin probably just let him believe whatever made him comfortable with becoming a vampire. As Myrddin notes, he has been known by countless names throughout history, so it's possible Michael was one of them.them.
* While he is established to be WeakenedByTheLight, the epilogue at Elizabeth's castle shows Jonathan walking outside before sunset without it harming him. Is it only direct sunlight that he can't stand?
* While he is established to be WeakenedByTheLight, the epilogue at Elizabeth's castle shows Jonathan walking outside before sunset without it harming him. Is it only direct sunlight that he can't stand?
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** It is shown multiple times in the game (Swansea's first meeting, Sean's cabinet being opened having no effect, Priest Enemies) that religious symbols apparently have to have (for lack of a better phrase) Faith projected through the symbol in order for them to become effective. Just wearing it or displaying it is not enough otherwise Johnathan would have been repelled the instant Sean opened his cabinet, and the priest enemies' staves would be shining 24/7.
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** It is shown multiple times in the game (Swansea's first meeting, Sean's cabinet being opened having no effect, Priest Enemies) that religious symbols apparently have to have (for lack of a better phrase) Faith projected through the symbol in order for them to become effective. Just wearing it or displaying it is not enough otherwise Johnathan Jonathan would have been repelled the instant Sean opened his cabinet, and the priest enemies' staves would be shining 24/7.
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** Doesn't Elizabeth Elisabeth herself state that she's this “healthy carrier” right after decapitating William Marshal? Also, maybe because she too all but became a Disaster/Ichor in the past, but William saved her by giving her his share of the antidote?
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*** William Marshal was infected during the curing of the Great Disaster. He passed it onto his progeny (Elizabeth) before she was cured by William Marshal's magic formula. However, it made her asymptomatic (to use doctor speak) rather than curing her so any vampires created by her would be psychopathic monsters ala Harriet. Hence all of this is kinda her fault (but really Swansea) in that all of the psychotic murder vampires are her creation. They were also possessed by the Red Queen because she's a BigBad.
*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea treated with Elizabeth's blood was Harriet, who became a latent Disaster, and passed it on to her daughter during her visit, and Harriet's daughter passed it on to everyone else in London. The only concrete cause for a Disaster-level vampire is a woman with a tremendous amount of hatred being made one - it doesn't necessarily mean that the progenitor vampire was a "carrier", it just means that the Red Queen believed the individual to be a good fit for her to enact her will upon the Earth.
*** There's no proof whether any vampire blood would have had the effect or if Elizabeth's corrupted blood was required. Since the only experiment would be for her to sire another vampire and potentially cause another Disaster testing this is off the table so Jonathan and Elizabeth (and the player) have to draw their own conclusions. Naturally Jonathan, as a scientist, favours epidemiology over mysticism.
*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea treated with Elizabeth's blood was Harriet, who became a latent Disaster, and passed it on to her daughter during her visit, and Harriet's daughter passed it on to everyone else in London. The only concrete cause for a Disaster-level vampire is a woman with a tremendous amount of hatred being made one - it doesn't necessarily mean that the progenitor vampire was a "carrier", it just means that the Red Queen believed the individual to be a good fit for her to enact her will upon the Earth.
*** There's no proof whether any vampire blood would have had the effect or if Elizabeth's corrupted blood was required. Since the only experiment would be for her to sire another vampire and potentially cause another Disaster testing this is off the table so Jonathan and Elizabeth (and the player) have to draw their own conclusions. Naturally Jonathan, as a scientist, favours epidemiology over mysticism.
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*** William Marshal was infected during the curing of the Great Disaster. He passed it onto his progeny (Elizabeth) (Elisabeth) before she was cured by William Marshal's magic formula. However, it made her asymptomatic (to use doctor speak) rather than curing her so any vampires created by her would be psychopathic monsters ala Harriet. Hence all of this is kinda her fault (but really Swansea) in that all of the psychotic murder vampires are her creation. They were also possessed by the Red Queen because she's a BigBad.
*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea treated withElizabeth's Elisabeth's blood was Harriet, who became a latent Disaster, and passed it on to her daughter during her visit, and Harriet's daughter passed it on to everyone else in London. The only concrete cause for a Disaster-level vampire is a woman with a tremendous amount of hatred being made one - it doesn't necessarily mean that the progenitor vampire was a "carrier", it just means that the Red Queen believed the individual to be a good fit for her to enact her will upon the Earth.
*** There's no proof whether any vampire blood would have had the effect or ifElizabeth's Elisabeth's corrupted blood was required. Since the only experiment would be for her to sire another vampire and potentially cause another Disaster testing this is off the table so Jonathan and Elizabeth Elisabeth (and the player) have to draw their own conclusions. Naturally Jonathan, as a scientist, favours epidemiology over mysticism.
*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea treated with
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** Jonathan's blood did enter her system, there is a blink-and-you-miss-it moment when Jonathan kisses Mary before she dies, that's when his blood gets he was holding Mary. He was unconsciously holding her face straight into her. She even yells at you something about it during the fight.
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** Jonathan's blood did enter her system, there is a blink-and-you-miss-it moment when Jonathan kisses Mary before she dies, that's when his blood gets into her. She even yells at you something about it during the fight.
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* (More about writing/terminology choices than the story) Why did they choose to call what you do to your victims 'Embracing'? In a majority of vampire lore since at least Vampire: The Masquerade, if not further back, to 'Embrace' is to turn your victim into either a thrall or a full-on fampire, but in this game it's synonymous with 'kill'.
** It's possible they switched words because they wanted it to seem different and failed miserably.
** It's possible they switched words because they wanted it to seem different and failed miserably.
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** He can take on a material form when he chooses to.
* (More about writing/terminology choices than the story) Why did they choose to call what you do to your victims 'Embracing'? In a majority of vampire lore since at least Vampire: The Masquerade, if not further back, to 'Embrace' is to turn your victim into either a thrall or a full-onfampire, vampire, but in this game it's synonymous with 'kill'.
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** He had no reason at the time to think that vampires were as common as they had become so assuming the nearest one was his maker was reasonable.
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** He may have bitten his tongue.
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** It is shown multiple times in the game (Swansea's first meeting, Sean's cabinet being opened having no effect, Priest Enemies) that religious symbols apparently have to have (for lack of a better phrase) Faith projected through the symbol in order for them to become effective. Just wearing it or displaying it is not enough otherwise Johnathan would have been repelled the instant Sean opened his cabinet, and the priest enemies' staves would be shining 24/7.
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* Why did Jonathan assume that the vampire he was tracking was his maker?
* How was Mary turned despite Jonathan's blood not entering her system?
* Why did Jonathan assume that the vampire he was tracking was his maker?
* How was Mary turned despite Jonathan's blood not entering her system?
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* How was Sean Hampton not affected by his own cross necklace after being turned?
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* How was Mary turned despite Jonathan's blood not entering her system?
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*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea created through Elizabeth's blood was Harriet, who was an incoming Disaster, and passed it on to her daughter during her visit, and Harriet's daughter passed it on to everyone else in London. The only concrete cause for a Disaster-level vampire is a woman with a tremendous amount of hatred being made one - it doesn't necessarily mean that the progenitor vampire was a "carrier", it just means that the Red Queen believed the individual to be a good fit for her to enact her will upon the Earth.
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*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea created through treated with Elizabeth's blood was Harriet, who was an incoming became a latent Disaster, and passed it on to her daughter during her visit, and Harriet's daughter passed it on to everyone else in London. The only concrete cause for a Disaster-level vampire is a woman with a tremendous amount of hatred being made one - it doesn't necessarily mean that the progenitor vampire was a "carrier", it just means that the Red Queen believed the individual to be a good fit for her to enact her will upon the Earth.
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*** There's no concrete evidence of that, though - it's all supposition on Dr. Reid's part, though it's understandable why they wouldn't wish to put that theory to the test. The only person that Swansea created through Elizabeth's blood was Harriet, who was an incoming Disaster, and passed it on to her daughter during her visit, and Harriet's daughter passed it on to everyone else in London. The only concrete cause for a Disaster-level vampire is a woman with a tremendous amount of hatred being made one - it doesn't necessarily mean that the progenitor vampire was a "carrier", it just means that the Red Queen believed the individual to be a good fit for her to enact her will upon the Earth.
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*** William Marshal was infected during the curing of the Great Disaster. He passed it onto his progeny (Elizabeth) before she was cured by William Marshal. However, it made her asymptomatic (to use doctor speak) rather than curing her so any vampires created by her would be psychopathic monsters ala Harriet.
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*** William Marshal was infected during the curing of the Great Disaster. He passed it onto his progeny (Elizabeth) before she was cured by William Marshal.Marshal's magic formula. However, it made her asymptomatic (to use doctor speak) rather than curing her so any vampires created by her would be psychopathic monsters ala Harriet. Hence all of this is kinda her fault (but really Swansea) in that all of the psychotic murder vampires are her creation. They were also possessed by the Red Queen because she's a BigBad.
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*** Jonathan basically misread the situation because he keeps trying to engage in DoingInTheWizard. Myrddin more or less says that Jonathan is completely wrong when he thinks she's the original healthy carrier.
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*** Jonathan basically misread William Marshal was infected during the situation because he keeps trying to engage in DoingInTheWizard. Myrddin more or less says that Jonathan is completely wrong when he thinks she's curing of the original healthy carrier.Great Disaster. He passed it onto his progeny (Elizabeth) before she was cured by William Marshal. However, it made her asymptomatic (to use doctor speak) rather than curing her so any vampires created by her would be psychopathic monsters ala Harriet.
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** Well, being made out of blood, he'd just have to put some in you. Alternatively, his avatar to communicate with you isn't his actual physical body.
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** Well, being made out of blood, he'd just have to put some in you. Alternatively, his avatar to communicate with you isn't his actual physical body.
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*** Jonathan basically misread the situation because he keeps trying to engage in DoingInTheWizard. Myrddin more or less says that Jonathan is completely wrong when he thinks she's the original healthy carrier.
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** Well, being made out of blood, he'd just have to put some in you. Alternatively, his avatar to communicate with you isn't his actual physical body.
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* How did Myrddin manage to bite Jonathan if he's an immaterial specter made out of blood?
* How did Myrddin manage to bite Jonathan if he's an immaterial specter made out of blood?
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* The final conversation with Myrddin before entering Lady Ashbury's castle baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.
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* The final conversation with Myrddin before entering Lady Ashbury's castle baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with. For reference's sake, this was in "The Cure" ending, so maybe it's different for "Walking the Earth"?
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* Before anything else, I want to clarify: who granted Sir William immortality? Was it really Archangel Michael? Or Myrddin?
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* Before anything else, I want to clarify: who granted Sir William immortality? Was it really Archangel Michael? Or Myrddin?Myrddin?
**The way I understood it, it was Myrddin, but Sir William, being a devout Christian, interpreted him as being the Archangel Michael due to being an incorporeal entity capable of bestowing eternal life and incredible power. Myrddin probably just let him believe whatever made him comfortable with becoming a vampire. As Myrddin notes, he has been known by countless names throughout history, so it's possible Michael was one of them.
**The way I understood it, it was Myrddin, but Sir William, being a devout Christian, interpreted him as being the Archangel Michael due to being an incorporeal entity capable of bestowing eternal life and incredible power. Myrddin probably just let him believe whatever made him comfortable with becoming a vampire. As Myrddin notes, he has been known by countless names throughout history, so it's possible Michael was one of them.
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* Before anything else, I want to clarify: who granted Sir William immortality? Was it really Archangel Michael? Or Myrddin?
* Before anything else, I want to clarify: who granted Sir William immortality? Was it really Archangel Michael? Or Myrddin?
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* The final conversation with Myrddin before entering Lady Ashbury's castle baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.
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* The final conversation with Myrddin before entering Lady Ashbury's castle baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.with.
** Doesn't Elizabeth herself state that she's this “healthy carrier” right after decapitating William Marshal? Also, maybe because she too all but became a Disaster/Ichor in the past, but William saved her by giving her his share of the antidote?
** Doesn't Elizabeth herself state that she's this “healthy carrier” right after decapitating William Marshal? Also, maybe because she too all but became a Disaster/Ichor in the past, but William saved her by giving her his share of the antidote?
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* The final conversation with Myrddin in "The Cure" ending baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.
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* The final conversation with Myrddin in "The Cure" ending before entering Lady Ashbury's castle baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.
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* The final conversation with Myrddin in "The Cure" ending baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.
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* The final conversation with Myrddin in "The Cure" ending baffles me for how thickheaded Dr. Reid was. Myrddin was explicit in stating that Elisabeth was ''not'' a "Healthy Carrier" for the epidemic, leading me to conclude that it was the fact that a woman as spiteful and hateful as Harriet Jones received ''any'' vampiric blood that caused the Red Queen to have a vessel. And yet, throughout the entire ending, Myrddin's words are seemingly disregarded in favor of Dr. Reid's theory, even by the very writers that put those words in Myrddin's mouth to begin with.