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*** Isara isn't a medic. She's a tank operator.
** To address the final question there, because that's the reality of war. You can survive impossible odds, pull off unbelievable feats in the heat of the moment, and still die all because of a single bullet.
** To address the final question there, because that's the reality of war. You can survive impossible odds, pull off unbelievable feats in the heat of the moment, and still die all because of a single bullet.
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* I heard rumors of a Valkyria Chronicles 4 but searching barely comes up with anything. Is there a reputable source?
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* Am I the only person who facepalmed at Faldio's unnecesary heroic sacrifice? The Marmota was out of commision, Maximillian was defeated and unarmed, and the 7s basically had won the day. All Faldio did with suicide was to endanger the lives of the very same people he intended to save, and deprive Gallia of a high ranking prisioner.
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** Like the other commenter said, it's possibly a side effect of the experimentation. Alterntatively Slevaria just got unlucky with genetics and happened to inherit genes that give her Valkyrian looks, even before she awakens her SuperMode.
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** A potbellied pig won't get much bigger than a housecat.
* Why us everyone so liable to throw away Valkyria? A bomb goes off once, and a soldier can be used in every battle. They're literally one-in-a-million. Even if they ARE powerful as nuclear bombs, I don't think you can afford to waste them. There's about ten-ish in the ''entire world.''
* Why us everyone so liable to throw away Valkyria? A bomb goes off once, and a soldier can be used in every battle. They're literally one-in-a-million. Even if they ARE powerful as nuclear bombs, I don't think you can afford to waste them. There's about ten-ish in the ''entire world.''
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** The other Valkyria descended royal families likely died in the struggles following the loss of their powers, as royals used to 'we're pretty much walking nukes' ended up using that as an excuse to lack in any and all other areas. Gallia on the other hand is a neutral, peaceful country, and never had those powers to begin with. Therefore they are the only surviving family with a reasonably pure connection with the original royal families of the Valkyrian Empire.
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*** Gallia reminds me a lot of Switzerland they only really cared about their own independence, so all they had to do was make it so much of a hassle to invade that everyone would just go around them, real life Nazi Germany had planned to invade Switzerland but eventually decided against it because of how much effort it'd take for so little gain, the Empire decides pretty much the same thing except only after they invaded Gallia
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** Two reasons, most likely: The Sevens are part of the conscript army. Any one who can hold a gun has to fight. They can't afford to throw away two noncommissioned officers, especially when one is an actual honest-to-God veteran of the last war, over a bit of lip. (Plus, when it comes to conscripts as opposed to volunteer soldiers, a bit of insubordination is expected.) Secondly, following up from the first point, because Largo is a seasoned combat veteran, and Rosie is very well liked by the shock troopers under her command, the other enlisted conscripts are going to put a lot of value on them and their opinions. Welkin could have thrown them in the brig for insubordination, but forcing them to acknowledge that he is a competent commander was ultimately more efficient at cementing his status as OIC among the other conscripts.
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*** It's said in the game's personnel files that military training is commonplace in Gallian schools of all levels, and undergoing such training apparently counts for something during wartime. Welkin had undergone officer training and tank combat training (up to university level). Combined with the fact that he demonstrated military competence during the Imperial attack on Bruhl, that he's the son of a famous commander, and that he probably would've forbidden the military from taking the Edelweiss (along with its driver, Isara) unless he remained with it, the militia promoted him to Lieutenant when he enlisted. It's somewhat informal, but it makes sense even within VC's stretched logic; the militia needed people to fill the officer ranks, if nothing else, and Welkin was a decent candidate. However, because it's an informal promotion, it's understandable why many (such as Rosie and Largo) were initially irritated by the decision. (It's worth noting, though, that Largo had turned down promotion on several previous occasions; if he didn't want to serve under officers younger and less experienced than he is, he shouldn't have insisted on remaining an NCO until well into his thirties.)
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Explanation to the incompetence of Gallian Military, esp. General Damon.
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** Just wanted to comment for some point made above. Gallian Military was actually led by aristocrats or nobility. It makes sense that they are incompetent assholes who think the regulars were better than militia. Modern staff college were started when Gerhard von Scharnhorst became the director of Prussian Military Academy. Their staff courses were were used as a template by current staff courses around the world. In essence, staff officers did serve as the counterweight against their commanders, especially if they were incompetent. Maybe there is no Scharnhorst equivalent in this world?
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** The easiest answer is the setting has a mild case of SchizoTech. Firearms tech is late WW2 era (nobody still uses bolt-action rifles; the Gallian standard issue combat rifle is roughly based on the Gewehr 43 and other nations have equivalents). Tanks are pre-WW2 design-wise, with multiple cannons (such as the M3 Lee) being standard whereas they were obsoleted in WW2. Aircraft are simply behind in this universe, simple as that - there even is a plane in the game, a very early powered-glider type.
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** The easiest answer is the setting has a mild case of SchizoTech. Firearms tech is late WW2 [=WW2=] era (nobody still uses bolt-action rifles; the Gallian standard issue combat rifle is roughly based on the Gewehr 43 and other nations have equivalents). Tanks are pre-WW2 pre-[=WW2=] design-wise, with multiple cannons (such as the M3 Lee) being standard whereas they were obsoleted in WW2.[=WW2=]. Aircraft are simply behind in this universe, simple as that - there even is a plane in the game, a very early powered-glider type.
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* I think it's well established that tanks have that ragnite radiator that you can shoot ForMassiveDamage.shoot. Now, I could understand that driving a missile into the engine is perfectly capable of blowing it up, but why can shooting it up with a machine gun get the same effect?
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** As for the 'multiple squads', I believe this has something to do with questionable localisation. In English the unit that Lt. Gunther commands is referred to as 'Squad 7', and the unit Capt. Varrots commands is referred to as '3rd Regiment' (of which 'Squad 7' is under). None of those names make any sense (barring any esoteric army organisation), for a regiment (usually commanded by a colonel) is usually made up of several battalions (which usually has (very) roughly 1000 men apiece), and a squad (usually commanded by a sergeant) usually has around 10 men. Yes, I know that having organic armoured vehicle at squad-level is very unusual. Yes, I know the organisation of militias are usually not conformant to regular army structure. However it's still quite a leap from a unit usually commanded by a NCO to one that is usually command by a field-grade officer. And a militia that is organised wildly different than regular army is usually not conductive of operating cohesively together. But all of those goes away when the Japanese voice is considered. Japanese voice reveals that they are actually 7th platoon[[labelnote:dai nana shōtai]]第七小隊[[/labelnote]] and 3rd company[[labelnote:dai san chūtai]]第三中隊[[/labelnote]]. Instead of an oversized squad, Lt. Gunther is commanding a platoon (which usually has 20-40 men and is usually led by a lieutenant). And instead of under a regiment, 7th platoon is organised under 3rd company (which usually has somewhere around 100 men and is usually led by a captain), whose commanding officer is Capt. Varrots.
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** As for the 'multiple squads', I believe this has something to do with questionable localisation. In English the unit that Lt. Gunther commands is referred to as 'Squad 7', and the unit Capt. Varrots commands is referred to as '3rd Regiment' (of which 'Squad 7' is under). None of those names make any sense (barring any esoteric army organisation), for a regiment (usually commanded by a colonel) is usually made up of several battalions (which usually has (very) roughly 1000 men apiece), and a squad (usually commanded by a sergeant) usually has around 10 men. Yes, I know that having organic armoured vehicle at squad-level is very unusual. Yes, I know the organisation of militias are usually not conformant to regular army structure. However it's still quite a leap from a unit usually commanded by a NCO to one that is usually command by a field-grade officer. And a militia that is organised wildly different than regular army is usually not conductive of operating cohesively together. But all of those goes away when the Japanese voice is considered. Japanese voice reveals that they are actually 7th platoon[[labelnote:dai nana shōtai]]第七小隊[[/labelnote]] and 3rd company[[labelnote:dai san chūtai]]第三中隊[[/labelnote]]. Instead of an oversized squad, Lt. Gunther is commanding a platoon (which usually has 20-40 men and is usually led by a lieutenant). And instead of under a regiment, 7th platoon is organised under 3rd company (which (a company usually has somewhere around 100 men and is usually led by a captain), whose commanding officer is Capt. Varrots.
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** As for the 'multiple squads', I believe this has something to do with questionable localisation. In English the unit that Lt. Gunther commands is referred to as 'Squad 7', and the unit Capt. Varrots commands is referred to as '3rd Regiment' (of which 'Squad 7' is under). None of those names make any sense (barring any esoteric army organisation), for a regiment (usually commanded by a colonel) is usually made up of several battalions (which usually has (very) roughly 1000 men apiece), and a squad (usually commanded by a sergeant) usually has around 10 men. Yes, I know that having organic armoured vehicle at squad-level is very unusual. Yes, I know the organisation of militias are usually not conformant to regular army structure. However it's still quite a leap from a unit usually commanded by a NCO to one that is usually command by a field-grade officer. And a militia that is organised wildly different than regular army is usually not conductive of operating cohesively together. But all of those goes away when the Japanese voice is considered. Japanese voice reveals that they are actually 7th platoon[[labelnote:dai nana shōtai]]第七小隊[[/labelnote]] and 3rd company[[labelnote:dai san chūtai]]第三中隊[[/labelnote]]. Instead of an oversized squad, Lt. Gunther is commanding a platoon (which usually has 20-40 men and is usually led by a lieutenant). And instead of under a regiment, 7th platoon is organised under 3rd company (which usually has somewhere around 100 men and is usually led by a captain), whose commanding officer is Capt. Varrots.
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***Same with the original, at least when I played it. A bit head canon-y, but Since the ones with skirts and stockings hold rank, and Gallian military strategy at the time is basically "Send in the lower ranks" maybe the corporals and the sergeants of those classes ''weren't'' supposed to see direct combat, and thus got less practical outfits. Same as Captain Varrot's shin long skirt.
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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of scout/interceptor/bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near basically right before EWII, whereas our world had basic aircraft by the end start of EWI.our first World War. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, used as a base for the final cannon, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of scout/interceptor/bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
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* Again, she never sees any of those soldiers who "worship" her after that first instance, nothing happens beyond a few randos talking in the background for one scene. Faldio shoots her because of her powers, but frigging ''duh'', she's fighting a war, that she volunteered to fight in full knowledge of what had happened because she was there to see it, and she's the most badass person in her squad, getting shot really shouldn't be a mindblowing concept for someone who not only knows quite well the importance of the war effort but also took a near-fatal bullet and managed not to be injured by it. Selvaria falls in love and blows herself up, but Alicia has no context for what any of that meant and didn't try to blow herself up for the sake of love ''or'' duty, so that's irrelevant anyway. Selvaria's death didn't show Alicia anything except that the Final Flame is a power that she has access to, and she immediately used it to kill herself because of her self-loathing. Love and duty had nothing to do with it beyond getting some practical use out of her own suicide, you can tell because she starts the self-detonation while Welkin is within a few seconds' running distance, she wasn't really thinking about anyone but herself at that point.
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*** Not really. She lost ''one' fight against another Valkyria, and it's been pointed out in other places that Selvaria really didn't need to use the final flame to wipe out the Gallian army, she only did it because she was ordered to and was too heartbroken to refuse ''because'' she'd been ordered to. She might be slightly less invincible than power-eruption-crazed Alicia, but Selvaria deliberately lost the battle at Ghirlandaio as part of the final flame plan, she's still completely invincible to normal bullets whenever she wants. If he were obsessed with her powers so much that he didn't care if she lived or died or had any human dignity, there's literally no reason to kill her, especially since "that place" still exists and can most likely still use a living test subject since it's working on his artificial Valkyria power armor.
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**** Not really. She lost ''one' fight against another Valkyria, and it's been pointed out in other places that Selvaria really didn't need to use the final flame to wipe out the Gallian army, she only did it because she was ordered to and was too heartbroken to refuse ''because'' she'd been ordered to. She might be slightly less invincible than power-eruption-crazed Alicia, but Selvaria deliberately lost the battle at Ghirlandaio as part of the final flame plan, she's still completely invincible to normal bullets whenever she wants. If he were obsessed with her powers so much that he didn't care if she lived or died or had any human dignity, there's literally no reason to kill her, especially since "that place" still exists and can most likely still use a living test subject since it's working on his artificial Valkyria power armor.
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*** Alicia doesn't turn out to be the sole savior (even if the heroes would have failed but for her interventions as a Valkyria on at least two occasions), but a good portion of the militia/army certainly appear to treat her as such after her awakening. Seriously: some of them kneel and call her a "god-child"; I think that constitutes literal worship. If it weren't for her Valkyria powers, they wouldn't have any expectations of her beyond those they have for any other Squad 7 member; they certainly wouldn't be venerating her. Hell, Faldio went to the extent of shooting her in the first place because of her powers.\\
Sure, she ends up not using her powers again before Maiden's Shield anyway, but she can hardly know that ahead of time. (If she'd thought about it more, she might have figured out (or heard from Rosie or Largo) that Welkin wouldn't order her to do it, but Damon or Varrot might well overrule him if they deemed it justified.)\\
As for 3): Certainly Alicia doesn't know most of the details about Selvaria's motives. And yet: Alicia (already predisposed to think of herself as bearing a unique burden) asks the only other Valkyria she knows why she fights. Selvaria makes a comment about (romantic) love. Half a day later, Selvaria blows herself up. Alicia's going to react to that.
Sure, she ends up not using her powers again before Maiden's Shield anyway, but she can hardly know that ahead of time. (If she'd thought about it more, she might have figured out (or heard from Rosie or Largo) that Welkin wouldn't order her to do it, but Damon or Varrot might well overrule him if they deemed it justified.)\\
As for 3): Certainly Alicia doesn't know most of the details about Selvaria's motives. And yet: Alicia (already predisposed to think of herself as bearing a unique burden) asks the only other Valkyria she knows why she fights. Selvaria makes a comment about (romantic) love. Half a day later, Selvaria blows herself up. Alicia's going to react to that.
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*** [[labelnote:1]]Welkin's failure to deal with Rosie and Largo's insubordination is indeed a problem with him, but also clearly not what you claimed above ("thought it was a compliment").[[/labelnote]] [[labelnote:3]]Faldio engaged in deliberate friendly fire against Welkin's love interest with the intent of turning her into a human weapon. Most people would be plenty angry at that regardless of what the stated reasons were (see [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant#Second_formulation Kant's second formulation]]). I'll grant that people might very reasonably expect better of Welkin.[[/labelnote]] [[labelnote:4.5]]The Marmota was on its way to flatten Randgriz for all they know (it wasn't, but what it was doing was probably even worse), and their sole plan to stop it had failed catastrophically. From any sort of realistic POV (as opposed to reading/writing a work of fiction trying for [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism an optimistic depiction]]), Alicia using the Final Flame on the Marmota was ''the correct decision'', and even the complete loss of Squad 7 would be a more than acceptable tradeoff. (The militia regiment loses two whole squads to the Valkof anyway, but they don't exist outside that scene so we don't care about them)[[/labelnote]] [[labelnote:5]]Even if its fairly significant to the plot that he uses his wildlife knowledge/common sense to formulate some of his battle plans, even if he didn't have any training in this field he'd still qualify to lead on the basis of his ''military'' training and the fact that he does in fact get things done (or, okay, because his dad was a war hero and he has his own tank). Anyway, it's common sense that the other characters noticably fail to use if they have it, which would be a fair [[WatsonianVersusDoylist Doylist]] criticism of the story but not a Watsonian one of Welkin.[[/labelnote]] I'll concede 4.0 and 6. [[labelnote:*]]Also, why are 2 and 3 lumped together? They don't have any real connection.[[/labelnote]]
