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17th Aug '17 8:00:33 AM NickBana
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** Just wanted to comment for some point made above. Gallian Military was actually led by aristocrats or nobility. It makes sense that they are incompetent assholes who think the regulars were better than militia. Modern staff college were started when Gerhard von Scharnhorst became the director of Prussian Military Academy. Their staff courses were were used as a template by current staff courses around the world. In essence, staff officers did serve as the counterweight against their commanders, especially if they were incompetent. Maybe there is no Scharnhorst equivalent in this world?
23rd Jul '17 3:39:04 PM nombretomado
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** The easiest answer is the setting has a mild case of SchizoTech. Firearms tech is late WW2 era (nobody still uses bolt-action rifles; the Gallian standard issue combat rifle is roughly based on the Gewehr 43 and other nations have equivalents). Tanks are pre-WW2 design-wise, with multiple cannons (such as the M3 Lee) being standard whereas they were obsoleted in WW2. Aircraft are simply behind in this universe, simple as that - there even is a plane in the game, a very early powered-glider type.


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** The easiest answer is the setting has a mild case of SchizoTech. Firearms tech is late WW2 [=WW2=] era (nobody still uses bolt-action rifles; the Gallian standard issue combat rifle is roughly based on the Gewehr 43 and other nations have equivalents). Tanks are pre-WW2 pre-[=WW2=] design-wise, with multiple cannons (such as the M3 Lee) being standard whereas they were obsoleted in WW2.[=WW2=]. Aircraft are simply behind in this universe, simple as that - there even is a plane in the game, a very early powered-glider type.

15th Jul '17 7:39:42 AM SeptimusHeap
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* I think it's well established that tanks have that ragnite radiator that you can shoot ForMassiveDamage. Now, I could understand that driving a missile into the engine is perfectly capable of blowing it up, but why can shooting it up with a machine gun get the same effect?

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* I think it's well established that tanks have that ragnite radiator that you can shoot ForMassiveDamage.shoot. Now, I could understand that driving a missile into the engine is perfectly capable of blowing it up, but why can shooting it up with a machine gun get the same effect?
2nd May '17 12:20:01 PM MagBas
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3rd Sep '16 7:11:30 PM mwzzhang
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** As for the 'multiple squads', I believe this has something to do with questionable localisation. In English the unit that Lt. Gunther commands is referred to as 'Squad 7', and the unit Capt. Varrots commands is referred to as '3rd Regiment' (of which 'Squad 7' is under). None of those names make any sense (barring any esoteric army organisation), for a regiment (usually commanded by a colonel) is usually made up of several battalions (which usually has (very) roughly 1000 men apiece), and a squad (usually commanded by a sergeant) usually has around 10 men. Yes, I know that having organic armoured vehicle at squad-level is very unusual. Yes, I know the organisation of militias are usually not conformant to regular army structure. However it's still quite a leap from a unit usually commanded by a NCO to one that is usually command by a field-grade officer. And a militia that is organised wildly different than regular army is usually not conductive of operating cohesively together. But all of those goes away when the Japanese voice is considered. Japanese voice reveals that they are actually 7th platoon[[labelnote:dai nana shōtai]]第七小隊[[/labelnote]] and 3rd company[[labelnote:dai san chūtai]]第三中隊[[/labelnote]]. Instead of an oversized squad, Lt. Gunther is commanding a platoon (which usually has 20-40 men and is usually led by a lieutenant). And instead of under a regiment, 7th platoon is organised under 3rd company (which usually has somewhere around 100 men and is usually led by a captain), whose commanding officer is Capt. Varrots.

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** As for the 'multiple squads', I believe this has something to do with questionable localisation. In English the unit that Lt. Gunther commands is referred to as 'Squad 7', and the unit Capt. Varrots commands is referred to as '3rd Regiment' (of which 'Squad 7' is under). None of those names make any sense (barring any esoteric army organisation), for a regiment (usually commanded by a colonel) is usually made up of several battalions (which usually has (very) roughly 1000 men apiece), and a squad (usually commanded by a sergeant) usually has around 10 men. Yes, I know that having organic armoured vehicle at squad-level is very unusual. Yes, I know the organisation of militias are usually not conformant to regular army structure. However it's still quite a leap from a unit usually commanded by a NCO to one that is usually command by a field-grade officer. And a militia that is organised wildly different than regular army is usually not conductive of operating cohesively together. But all of those goes away when the Japanese voice is considered. Japanese voice reveals that they are actually 7th platoon[[labelnote:dai nana shōtai]]第七小隊[[/labelnote]] and 3rd company[[labelnote:dai san chūtai]]第三中隊[[/labelnote]]. Instead of an oversized squad, Lt. Gunther is commanding a platoon (which usually has 20-40 men and is usually led by a lieutenant). And instead of under a regiment, 7th platoon is organised under 3rd company (which (a company usually has somewhere around 100 men and is usually led by a captain), whose commanding officer is Capt. Varrots.
3rd Sep '16 7:11:30 PM mwzzhang
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** As for the 'multiple squads', I believe this has something to do with questionable localisation. In English the unit that Lt. Gunther commands is referred to as 'Squad 7', and the unit Capt. Varrots commands is referred to as '3rd Regiment' (of which 'Squad 7' is under). None of those names make any sense (barring any esoteric army organisation), for a regiment (usually commanded by a colonel) is usually made up of several battalions (which usually has (very) roughly 1000 men apiece), and a squad (usually commanded by a sergeant) usually has around 10 men. Yes, I know that having organic armoured vehicle at squad-level is very unusual. Yes, I know the organisation of militias are usually not conformant to regular army structure. However it's still quite a leap from a unit usually commanded by a NCO to one that is usually command by a field-grade officer. And a militia that is organised wildly different than regular army is usually not conductive of operating cohesively together. But all of those goes away when the Japanese voice is considered. Japanese voice reveals that they are actually 7th platoon[[labelnote:dai nana shōtai]]第七小隊[[/labelnote]] and 3rd company[[labelnote:dai san chūtai]]第三中隊[[/labelnote]]. Instead of an oversized squad, Lt. Gunther is commanding a platoon (which usually has 20-40 men and is usually led by a lieutenant). And instead of under a regiment, 7th platoon is organised under 3rd company (which usually has somewhere around 100 men and is usually led by a captain), whose commanding officer is Capt. Varrots.
14th Jul '16 6:33:51 PM ChazNatlo
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***Same with the original, at least when I played it. A bit head canon-y, but Since the ones with skirts and stockings hold rank, and Gallian military strategy at the time is basically "Send in the lower ranks" maybe the corporals and the sergeants of those classes ''weren't'' supposed to see direct combat, and thus got less practical outfits. Same as Captain Varrot's shin long skirt.
23rd Jun '16 3:06:54 AM slain
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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of scout/interceptor/bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.

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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near basically right before EWII, whereas our world had basic aircraft by the end start of EWI.our first World War. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, used as a base for the final cannon, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of scout/interceptor/bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
21st Jun '16 2:36:02 AM slain
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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.

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** It's mentioned that aircraft only really got started near the end of EWI. Presumably the Europan equivalent of the Wright Brothers (or whomever you view First Flight to belong to) were born later. In addition, the book's notes about Tank Destroyers explicitly mention anti-aircraft cannons being mounted on them, so it's possible the Empire or the Federation ''have'' some sort of bomber scout/interceptor/bomber craft, they're just too damn rare to use on a tiny nation like Gallia when they're better used on the Empire/Fed border.
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