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* Did it ever occur to Alan that a decent haircut and some well-fitting clothes may have made him more attractive? The character is written as a repulsive loser, but it seems like that has more to do with his fashion choices than him being ugly or physically unfit. Given that Alan is on a perpetual quest to be more desirable to women, why does he seemingly have no interest in making a couple easy self-improvements?
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** StockholmSyndrome
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** A reference to Creator/MelGibson.
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** Jenna Elfman was Frankie in a two-part Season 1 episode, and Dharma in Season 9. Kandi was "Bubbles" and "Kimber". Apparently we're just not expected to notice.

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** Jenna Elfman Creator/JennaElfman was Frankie in a two-part Season 1 episode, and Dharma in Season 9. Kandi was "Bubbles" and "Kimber". Apparently we're just not expected to notice.
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** I assumed that ultimately a combination of his bizarre friendship with Alan and the pity he shows any time things lean towards him leaving the house, she realized that eventually if she gave him an ultimatum then Walden may well have picked Alan and dumped him first.
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* Season 4's "Release the Dogs" has one of the cops escorting Alan home say "At least this joker didn't ask if I was Jewish". What's the significance of the line?
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* The Moral Dissoance and Jerkassery with the main cast can be prett unfunny to me. It really bothers me that Evelyn knew that she accidentally gave Charlie one of her drugs instead of some pain reliever and din't bother to see if she could stop him from embarrsing his Judge Girlfriend and making her break up with him. Don't get me started on Judith and Kandi...
** Well this show is an equal opportunity offender, both the male and female characters are regularly shown to be JerkAsses, I can definitely understand you being upset though, Judith does often act like a total bitch to Alan for no reaosn other then to make his life a living hell, the thing with Evelyn and Linda(the judge) didn't really bother me so much though, as since Linda was planning to run for state-senator, she most likely would've broken up with him eventually anyways even if he hadn't taken the pill and embarrased her. She certainly didn't look thrilled whenever a random woman that happened to "know" Charlie would come up to him and say his name. With Charlie's sordid sexual history hanging over her, their relationship wouldn't have been too likely to last much longer even without Evelyn's "help"

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* The Moral Dissoance MoralDissonance and Jerkassery with the main cast can be prett pretty unfunny to me. It really bothers me that Evelyn knew that she accidentally gave Charlie one of her drugs instead of some pain reliever and din't bother to see if she could stop him from embarrsing embarrassing his Judge Girlfriend and making her break up with him. Don't get me started on Judith and Kandi...
** Well this show is an equal opportunity offender, both the male and female characters are regularly shown to be JerkAsses, {{Jerkass}}es, I can definitely understand you being upset though, Judith does often act like a total bitch to Alan for no reaosn reason other then to make his life a living hell, the thing with Evelyn and Linda(the judge) didn't really bother me so much though, as since Linda was planning to run for state-senator, she most likely would've broken up with him eventually anyways even if he hadn't taken the pill and embarrased embarrassed her. She certainly didn't look thrilled whenever a random woman that happened to "know" Charlie would come up to him and say his name. With Charlie's sordid sexual history hanging over her, their relationship wouldn't have been too likely to last much longer even without Evelyn's "help"



That whole episode was non-sensical. The biggest one being that someone would get bored having sex with Heather Locklear.

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That whole episode was non-sensical.nonsensical. The biggest one being that someone would get bored having sex with Heather Locklear.



* So will Charlie's death drive an already a little schitzy Rose completely off the brink? Especially since it may be her fault, if he dies while they are on their romantic getaway. She might go all Miss Havisham, walk around the beachhouse in a dirty, torn wedding dress....

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* So will Charlie's death drive an already a little schitzy Rose completely off the brink? Especially since it may be her fault, if he dies while they are on their romantic getaway. She might go all Miss Havisham, walk around the beachhouse beach house in a dirty, torn wedding dress....



** You do realize that Rose is incredibly unstable and [[spoiler: Charlie, knowing how cuckoo she is not only proposed to her, but then cheated on her afterwords, and was stupid enough to let her take him where she could throw him in front a of a train, presumibly secluded, and given how he probably was thinking he was about to have sex knowing his character, it's not out of character at all.]]

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** You do realize that Rose is incredibly unstable and [[spoiler: Charlie, knowing how cuckoo she is not only proposed to her, but then cheated on her afterwords, and was stupid enough to let her take him where she could throw him in front a of a train, presumibly presumably secluded, and given how he probably was thinking he was about to have sex knowing his character, it's not out of character at all.]]



** Because they firsr met when they would have been in High School; or they were high school sweethearts ''to her''?
* This has probably been adressed somewhere else, but I got to ask: How come neither Molly Ringwald or James Spader have ever guest starred on the show?

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** Because they firsr first met when they would have been in High School; or they were high school sweethearts ''to her''?
* This has probably been adressed addressed somewhere else, but I got to ask: How come neither Molly Ringwald or James Spader have ever guest starred on the show?



*** "Bubbles" and "Kimber" were the same person. But, did her name ever get mentioned? Because she seemed just as dumb as Kandi (she couldn't turn off the shower because it had to many knobs, and wouldn't let Alan move her car so it wouldn't block their neighbour's driveway because she doesn't let strange men drive her car) and "Bubbles" was a joke by Alan; Charlies said "I'm blowing bubbles" and Alan, overhearing this, says "I don't care what her name is". I don't think they actually say the name Kimber in that episode. I think April Bowbly is just billed that way in the credits. So, since she dated Charlie before meeting Alan, "Kimber" could be Kandi.

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*** "Bubbles" and "Kimber" were the same person. But, did her name ever get mentioned? Because she seemed just as dumb as Kandi (she couldn't turn off the shower because it had to many knobs, and wouldn't let Alan move her car so it wouldn't block their neighbour's neighbor's driveway because she doesn't let strange men drive her car) and "Bubbles" was a joke by Alan; Charlies said "I'm blowing bubbles" and Alan, overhearing this, says "I don't care what her name is". I don't think they actually say the name Kimber in that episode. I think April Bowbly is just billed that way in the credits. So, since she dated Charlie before meeting Alan, "Kimber" could be Kandi.



* What happened to the show's humour? In the first few season, it was witty, snarky and intelligent. Then, mid-way through the series, it became "What can we say on prime time television and how far can we push it?" So, what happened?
** SeasonalRot and Flanderization of Charlie, Alan and Jake.

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* What happened to the show's humour? humor? In the first few season, it was witty, snarky and intelligent. Then, mid-way through the series, it became "What can we say on prime time television and how far can we push it?" So, what happened?
** SeasonalRot and Flanderization {{Flanderization}} of Charlie, Alan and Jake.



** Let's also not forget that Charlie is letting Alan live in his house rent free. And, at times, Alan is no better than Charlie when it comes to women. On top of this, even when Charlie started charging Alan rent, Alan only occaisionally pays, despite having a reasonably successful chiropractic clinic.

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** Let's also not forget that Charlie is letting Alan live in his house rent free. And, at times, Alan is no better than Charlie when it comes to women. On top of this, even when Charlie started charging Alan rent, Alan only occaisionally occasionally pays, despite having a reasonably successful chiropractic clinic.



** Its simple, Alan is a "false nice guy", the kind who has spent his whole life living by an arbitrary morality, and is now mad that he hasnt reaped the rewards he thinks he deserves for it. Yes, life hasnt treated him all that well, but a lot of that is because Alan is a spineless doormat, and is incredibly resentful against his brother, who lived in hedonistic revelry that Alan secretly wanted himself, but didnt allow himself to go for, because he thought that the universe would automatically reward him for his passive agressive nice guy act. Now he clings to it, because admitting to himself that the majority of his setbacks is from his own faults is too painful.

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** Its simple, Alan is a "false nice guy", the kind who has spent his whole life living by an arbitrary morality, and is now mad that he hasnt hasn't reaped the rewards he thinks he deserves for it. Yes, life hasnt hasn't treated him all that well, but a lot of that is because Alan is a spineless doormat, and is incredibly resentful against his brother, who lived in hedonistic revelry that Alan secretly wanted himself, but didnt didn't allow himself to go for, because he thought that the universe would automatically reward him for his passive agressive aggressive nice guy act. Now he clings to it, because admitting to himself that the majority of his setbacks is from his own faults is too painful.
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** Easy. The universe this show takes place in hates Alan. Alan is a constant glutton for punishment for no reason ever. His Chiropractor business would be doing well in all reality, but, of course, this show's universe isn't all reality, now is it? The show later tries to make his punishments mean something by making him an asshole, but his assholeness is pretty justified when life constantly makes him miserable.
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*** Yeah but... Sheen is not easy to work with, no wonder they re-used actors who already have a good working relationship with him and/or at least tolerated him.
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* Speaking of sharks...Why didn't Walden just pay a surrogate, like Creator/RickyMartin ?

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* Speaking of sharks...Why didn't Walden just pay a surrogate, like Creator/RickyMartin ? Music/RickyMartin?
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**Actually Alan says something like that at the end, that he now has to hire another lawyer, make the agreement invalid, etc., and that means more money.


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**** No matter what the writers feel about Sheen, they have the duty to write in a professional manner that not only make sense, is coherent with the characters and the continuity of the series. It’s call professionalism.
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That whole episode was non-sensical. The biggest one being that someone would get bored having sex with Heather Lockleal.

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That whole episode was non-sensical. The biggest one being that someone would get bored having sex with Heather Lockleal.Locklear.
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* In the final episode, assuming that Charlie is indeed the one who left the cardboard cutouts of Alan and Walden in the beach house and spray-painted "KILL WALDEN" and "KILL ALAN" in the curtains, why didn't he then just hide somewhere in the house and wait for them to come home so that he can jump them right there?

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* In the final episode, assuming that Charlie is indeed the one who left the cardboard cutouts of Alan and Walden in the beach house and spray-painted "KILL WALDEN" and "KILL ALAN" in the curtains, why didn't he then just hide somewhere in the house and wait for them to come home so that he can jump them right there?there? (Besides the obvious reason of Charlie Sheen not being involved with the episode.)
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* In the final episode, assuming that Charlie is indeed the one who left the cardboard cutouts of Alan and Walden in the beach house and spray-painted "KILL WALDEN" and "KILL ALAN" in the curtains, why didn't he then just hide somewhere in the house and wait for them to come home so that he can jump them right there?
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* How come JudyGreer, who already played Myra in season 6, was cast again as Bridget? Nobody noticed the two unrelated women look [[YouLookFamiliar extremely alike]]?

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* How come JudyGreer, Creator/JudyGreer, who already played Myra in season 6, was cast again as Bridget? Nobody noticed the two unrelated women look [[YouLookFamiliar extremely alike]]?
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** A bit of [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]/[[WildMassGuess WMG]] here...if you recall, Charlie relentlessly chased Mia after she repeatedly told him she wasn't interested, didn't have time, wasn't ready for a relationship, etc. When he finally got her to relent to going out with him, it may have been part of the deal that he would have to make major changes to himself in order for her to get involved. [[StatusQuoIsGod Charlie being Charlie]], those plans eventually came up short, and the relationship failed. [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality We saw the story from his point of view]], but it is entirely possible that he bit off more than he could chew getting involved with a girl like Mia.
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* Speaking of sharks...Why didn't Walden just pay a surrogate, like Creator/RickyMartin ?
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* How come JudyGreer, who already played Myra in season 6, was cast again as Bridget? Nobody noticed the two unrelated women look extremely alike?

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* How come JudyGreer, who already played Myra in season 6, was cast again as Bridget? Nobody noticed the two unrelated women look [[YouLookFamiliar extremely alike?alike]]?
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*** It's also been shown on several occasions that Alan's business isn't doing very well. Remember when he tried to rent a chair in the mall?


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** This is kind of HollywoodLaw, but as most people understand California property law, all earnings ''after'' the marriage are communal, along with everything bought with those earnings. Therefore, Judith would be able to take them, or at least half the value of them, when they split. In real life the laws are more complicated, but it's a fair explanation for the sake of Alan and Judith's [[RuleOfFunny bitter divorce]].
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*In the episode with Heather Locklear as Alan's lawyer, why does she ask him if Alan bought his books before or after he and Judith got married? If Alan bought all those books himself--which I'm assuming he did--then they are all ''his'' and Judith cannot legally take them away.

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* In the season eight episode "A Bottle of Wine and a Jackhammer" in which Lyndsey asks Alan to move in with her, Alan initially refuses to do so, claiming that he is comfortable living with Charlie and that Charlie's house is home to him. It's only when he learns that Judith lives across the street from Lyndsey that Alan agrees to move in, knowing it will piss Judith off. How can Alan possibly say that he's "comfortable" living at Charlie's house when Charlie and Berta--and to a lesser extent Jake--constantly treat him like dirt? Not to mention the fact that Alan is perpetually disgusted at Charlie's lifestyle(no doubt due to jeolousy)? You would think that Alan would jump at the chance to be living with someone who actually treats him with respect.

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* In the season eight episode "A Bottle of Wine and a Jackhammer" in which Lyndsey asks Alan to move in with her, Alan initially refuses to do so, claiming that he is comfortable living with Charlie and that Charlie's house is home to him. It's only when he learns that Judith lives across the street from Lyndsey that Alan agrees to move in, knowing it will piss Judith off. How can Alan possibly say that he's "comfortable" living at Charlie's house when Charlie and Berta--and to a lesser extent Jake--constantly treat him like dirt? Not to mention the fact that Alan is perpetually disgusted at Charlie's lifestyle(no lifestyle (no doubt due to jeolousy)? jealousy)? You would think that Alan would jump at the chance to be living with someone who actually treats him with respect.respect.
** Because Alan would rather be a second class citizen in paradise, aka Charlie's house. He only agrees to live with Lyndsey because it'll piss off Judith, otherwise he wouldn't have bothered.
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*In the season eight episode "A Bottle of Wine and a Jackhammer" in which Lyndsey asks Alan to move in with her, Alan initially refuses to do so, claiming that he is comfortable living with Charlie and that Charlie's house is home to him. It's only when he learns that Judith lives across the street from Lyndsey that Alan agrees to move in, knowing it will piss Judith off. How can Alan possibly say that he's "comfortable" living at Charlie's house when Charlie and Berta--and to a lesser extent Jake--constantly treat him like dirt? Not to mention the fact that Alan is perpetually disgusted at Charlie's lifestyle(no doubt due to jeolousy)? You would think that Alan would jump at the chance to be living with someone who actually treats him with respect.
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** Assuming the show lasts long enough to cover his full enlistment contract, Jake [[GrowingTheBeard may come to that realization]] after living on his own around more well-adjusted people, and then [[CallingTheOldManOut give Alan, Judith, and Evelyn a piece of his mind]]. Let's face it--as rotten a role model as Charlie was, he was still the only adult figure in Jake's life who actually seemed to ''like'' him and give a damn about him. Charlie even said on more than one occasion he had no issue with taking Jake in--it's ''Alan'' that he wanted rid of!
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** Its simple, Alan is a "false nice guy", the kind who has spent his whole life living by an arbitrary morality, and is now mad that he hasnt reaped the rewards he thinks he deserves for it. Yes, life hasnt treated him all that well, but a lot of that is because Alan is a spineless doormat, and is incredibly resentful against his brother, who lived in hedonistic revelry that Alan secretly wanted himself, but didnt allow himself to go for, because he thought that the universe would automatically reward him for his passive agressive nice guy act. Now he clings to it, because admitting to himself that the majority of his setbacks is from his own faults is too painful.

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** Because Alan's a selfish Jerkass who sponges off of anyone and everyone he can sponge off of.

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** Because Alan's a selfish Jerkass who sponges off of anyone and everyone he can sponge off of.of...
** They're VitriolicBestBuds, and because Alan's habits come off as disgusting to Walden, but they know they can still count on each other.
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** Honestly, I was hoping for TheOtherDarrin. ''That'' would have been hilarious.
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* So in Season 4, when Alan has insomnia, it turns out that it's because he's angry that Charlie has never suffered for having the "audacity" to be promiscuous. And somehow this is portrayed as a good thing. Granted, Charlie isn't the nicest guy and was never the best brother, but he still lets Alan and Jake live at his house rent free (At the time) and pays for virtually everything they need to survive. How the hell does Alan justify wanting the brother who is pretty much the only reason he's still alive to suffer because he lives a lifestyle he has every right to live if he chooses to?
* Why would Herb want to get back with Judith? She treats him like crap and has no respect for him and treated him like a dog covered in filth that just rolled all over freshly cleaned carpet.

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*** He wasn't dirt poor at this point, he only became that way because of his crippling alimony and child support payments, so he could have sued, since he also hired another lawyer (plus, how do you think he paid for her in the first place). He should have reported her to the Bar Association of California and taken her to the cleaners. Although, she's shown to be an AmoralAttorney earlier in the episode when she gets Alan to get Charlie to agree perjure himself by lying under oath to back up Alan's claim of buying his book collection before he met Judith (he didn't).

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*** He wasn't dirt poor at this point, he only became that way because of his crippling alimony and child support payments, so he could have sued, since he also hired another lawyer (plus, how do you think he paid for her in the first place). He should have reported her to the Bar Association of California and taken her to the cleaners. Although, she's shown to be an AmoralAttorney earlier in the episode when she gets Alan to get Charlie to agree perjure himself by lying under oath to back up Alan's claim of buying his book collection before he met Judith (he didn't).didn't), though this does say more about him than her.\\
That whole episode was non-sensical. The biggest one being that someone would get bored having sex with Heather Lockleal.
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*** "Bubbles" and "Kimber" were the same person. But, did her name ever get mentioned? Because she seemed just as dumb as Kandi (she couldn't turn off the shower because it had to many knobs, and wouldn't let Alan move her car so it wouldn't block their neighbour's driveway because she doesn't let strange men drive her car) and "Bubbles" was a joke by Alan; Charlies said "I'm blowing bubbles" and Alan, overhearing this, says "I don't care what her name is". I don't think they actually say the name Kimber in that episode. I think April Bowbly is just billed that way in the credits.

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*** "Bubbles" and "Kimber" were the same person. But, did her name ever get mentioned? Because she seemed just as dumb as Kandi (she couldn't turn off the shower because it had to many knobs, and wouldn't let Alan move her car so it wouldn't block their neighbour's driveway because she doesn't let strange men drive her car) and "Bubbles" was a joke by Alan; Charlies said "I'm blowing bubbles" and Alan, overhearing this, says "I don't care what her name is". I don't think they actually say the name Kimber in that episode. I think April Bowbly is just billed that way in the credits. So, since she dated Charlie before meeting Alan, "Kimber" could be Kandi.

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