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*** Let's see if I can do this: [[spoiler:Fei Wong Reed wants to bring someone BackFromTheDead, so this is probably a case of LoveMakesYouEvil. Of course, resurrection is a big no-no in the CLAMP multiverse, so he needs Sakura's power (and possibly [[OurSoulsAreDifferent souls]] from the Manga/CardcaptorSakura and Manga/XxxHolic universe) to do it. He created [[CloningBlues clone!Sakura and clone!Syaoran]] to gather Sakura's feathers after he caused them to be scattered in various worlds in order to power the ritual/device/whatever that will bring back the aforementioned dead person while he held the real ones prisoner. Yuuko is trying to stop him for some reason, [[TheEndoftheWorldAsWeKnowIt which probably means doing what he's trying to do will hurt the multiverse somehow]] or [[DrunkWithPower he's an evil bastard who will abuse the power]]. The Tsubasa gang wants to stop him in order to (a) [[DamselinDistress rescue the real Princess Sakura]], (b) [[YouKilledMyFather get revenge for murdering Kurogane's mother]], and (c) because he's really evil. And something about Syaoran making a selfish wish and causing this whole mess. And a whole lot of other confusing stuff.]] I probably missed some stuff so someone might want to expand or add stuff.

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*** Let's see if I can do this: [[spoiler:Fei Wong Reed wants to bring someone BackFromTheDead, so this is probably a case of LoveMakesYouEvil. Of course, resurrection is a big no-no in the CLAMP multiverse, so he needs Sakura's power (and possibly [[OurSoulsAreDifferent souls]] from the Manga/CardcaptorSakura and Manga/XxxHolic universe) to do it. He created [[CloningBlues clone!Sakura and clone!Syaoran]] clone!Syaoran to gather Sakura's feathers after he caused them to be scattered in various worlds in order to power the ritual/device/whatever that will bring back the aforementioned dead person while he held the real ones prisoner. Yuuko is trying to stop him for some reason, [[TheEndoftheWorldAsWeKnowIt which probably means doing what he's trying to do will hurt the multiverse somehow]] or [[DrunkWithPower he's an evil bastard who will abuse the power]]. The Tsubasa gang wants to stop him in order to (a) [[DamselinDistress rescue the real Princess Sakura]], (b) [[YouKilledMyFather get revenge for murdering Kurogane's mother]], and (c) because he's really evil. And something about Syaoran making a selfish wish and causing this whole mess. And a whole lot of other confusing stuff.]] I probably missed some stuff so someone might want to expand or add stuff.
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** The reason its bittersweet is because one of the two couples is currently feather'd and the other can only be together for a few days per month best case scenario. The YaoiGuys are perfectly fine, though.

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** The reason its bittersweet is because one of the two couples is currently feather'd and the other can only be together for a few days per month best case scenario. The YaoiGuys are perfectly fine, though.
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** Similarly, other man-made characters like [[Manga/{{Chobits}} Chi, Freya, Minoru's maids,]] [[Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer Blanche, Hikaru,]] [[{{Manga/Clover}} and the robot rabbit]] all manage to be reborn in multiple worlds. According to the ''Manga/{{Chobits}}'' manga, persocoms do have souls, but the same doesn't go for [[Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer Angels]] or ''{{Manga/Clover}}'''s robots. So how did ''they'' manage it?

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** Similarly, other man-made characters like [[Manga/{{Chobits}} Chi, Freya, Minoru's maids,]] [[Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer [[Manga/AngelicLayer Blanche, Hikaru,]] [[{{Manga/Clover}} and the robot rabbit]] all manage to be reborn in multiple worlds. According to the ''Manga/{{Chobits}}'' manga, persocoms do have souls, but the same doesn't go for [[Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer [[Manga/AngelicLayer Angels]] or ''{{Manga/Clover}}'''s robots. So how did ''they'' manage it?
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* BittersweetEnding? I found the last two issues full of CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming. Both couples finally got to say ''I love you''. D'awww. Time flows differently between the worlds? I don't recall that ever being pointed out, and all possibly the worlds' "original state" also fix the time dilation. Don't ruin the happy ending! ; o;

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* BittersweetEnding? I found the last two issues full of CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments. Both couples finally got to say ''I love you''. D'awww. Time flows differently between the worlds? I don't recall that ever being pointed out, and all possibly the worlds' "original state" also fix the time dilation. Don't ruin the happy ending! ; o;
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*** But keep in mind that Sakura and Syaoran knew what Watanuki is, and might not have named him the same as Li Tsubasa. Watanuki shouldn't have existed, and neither did C!Syaoran. If wings come in pairs, and R!Syaoran/Tsubasa and R!Sakura/Tsubasa are a pair, then maybe Watanuki is a "pair" with C!Syaoran... which is technically his father... I don't know where the Sakura clones comes into this. How many were there again? [[JustBugsMe Know what? I'm out]].
* No. No. Chapter 223. How is this supposed to explain anything? C!Syaoran [[spoiler: is R!Syaoran's father in what must be the most clusterfucked time loop in history? Doesn't this make C!Syaoran the clone of his son, who himself is practically a clone of his own father?]] No amount of precognition could prepare one for this, short of omnipotence. And yet Yuko is still going around looking like, "Ah, everything I've planned for is coming together" when she's supposed to be nothing more than [[spoiler: an undead witch. Which leads to a whole other set of ''JustBugsMe'']]. It's official. There's no point to trying to make sense of this series, because it just does not make any sense at all.

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*** But keep in mind that Sakura and Syaoran knew what Watanuki is, and might not have named him the same as Li Tsubasa. Watanuki shouldn't have existed, and neither did C!Syaoran. If wings come in pairs, and R!Syaoran/Tsubasa and R!Sakura/Tsubasa are a pair, then maybe Watanuki is a "pair" with C!Syaoran... which is technically his father... I don't know where the Sakura clones comes into this. How many were there again? [[JustBugsMe Know what? I'm out]].
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* No. No. Chapter 223. How is this supposed to explain anything? C!Syaoran [[spoiler: is R!Syaoran's father in what must be the most clusterfucked time loop in history? Doesn't this make C!Syaoran the clone of his son, who himself is practically a clone of his own father?]] No amount of precognition could prepare one for this, short of omnipotence. And yet Yuko is still going around looking like, "Ah, everything I've planned for is coming together" when she's supposed to be nothing more than [[spoiler: an undead witch. Which leads to a whole other set of ''JustBugsMe'']].''Headscratchers'']]. It's official. There's no point to trying to make sense of this series, because it just does not make any sense at all.



* Here's a JustBugsMe for the entry itself. BittersweetEnding? I found the last two issues full of CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming. Both couples finally got to say ''I love you''. D'awww. Time flows differently between the worlds? I don't recall that ever being pointed out, and all possibly the worlds' "original state" also fix the time dilation. Don't ruin the happy ending! ; o;

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* Here's a JustBugsMe for the entry itself. BittersweetEnding? I found the last two issues full of CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming. Both couples finally got to say ''I love you''. D'awww. Time flows differently between the worlds? I don't recall that ever being pointed out, and all possibly the worlds' "original state" also fix the time dilation. Don't ruin the happy ending! ; o;

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** Uh I like this one! Got the same thoughts exactly! You know how Fai ages slowly because of his magic? He still ages, just very ''very'' slowly, and his magic keeps him alive, so it's not like he will starve to death (like was seen in his past) but he will probably stay awfully hungry (again, like seen in his past. Have you seen how shriveled and thin he looked?), now take the vampire lust for blood into account. If the CLAMP Vampires have the same predator-like nature that normal Vampires have when they're really really hungry, than Fai might wake up one day after years and realize he's starving for Kurogane's blood, since he stopped feeding altogether after he got his lost magic back (I would have assumed my theory could be worn if Fai's magic would have stopped his time completely–by ''time'' I mean ''growth''. Then Fai wouldn't need food at all because he just lives, not ages or grows. But Fai still aged, even in that Pit of Sinners (physically, a little. But his hair grew so long, so Fai ''still'' ages, just very ''very'' slowly. So his hunger might take a very, ''very'' '''very''' long time to act.)

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** Uh I like this one! Got the same My thoughts exactly! You know how Fai ages slowly because of his magic? He still ages, just very ''very'' slowly, and his magic keeps him alive, so it's not like he will starve to death (like was seen in his past) past-chapters) but he will probably stay awfully hungry (again, like seen in his past. past-chapters. Have you seen how shriveled and thin he looked?), now looked?). Now, take the vampire lust for blood into account. If the CLAMP Vampires have the same predator-like nature that normal Vampires have when they're really really hungry, than then Fai might wake up one day after years and realize he's starving for Kurogane's blood, since he stopped feeding altogether after he got his lost magic back from C!Syaoran (I would have assumed my theory could be worn wrong if Fai's magic would have stopped his time completely–by completely – by ''time'' I mean ''growth''. Then Fai wouldn't need food at all because he just lives, not ages or grows. But Fai still aged, even in that Pit of Sinners (physically, a little. But his hair grew so long, so Fai ''still'' ages, just very ''very'' slowly. So slowly), so his hunger might take a very, ''very'' '''very''' long time to act.) act.

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** Uh I like this one! Got the same thoughts exactly! You know how Fai ages slowly because of his magic? He still ages, just very ''very'' slowly, and his magic keeps him alive, so it's not like he will starve to death (like was seen in his past) but he will probably stay awfully hungry (again, like seen in his past. Have you seen how shriveled and thin he looked?), now take the vampire lust for blood into account. If the CLAMP Vampires have the same predator-like nature that normal Vampires have when they're really really hungry, than Fai might wake up one day after years and realize he's starving for Kurogane's blood, since he stopped feeding altogether after he got his lost magic back (I would have assumed my theory could be worn if Fai's magic would have stopped his time completely–by ''time'' I mean ''growth''. Then Fai wouldn't need food at all because he just lives, not ages or grows. But Fai still aged, even in that Pit of Sinners (physically, a little. But his hair grew so long, so Fai ''still'' ages, just very ''very'' slowly. So his hunger might take a very, ''very'' '''very''' long time to act.)
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*** Actually, I think Fai and Yui's mother might have been Freya, Chi's twin, for several reasons. First: Chi (who was named Elda before her amnesia) and her twin Freya were... well, twins. They appear in Kobato too, just under different names, and their mother is Chitose. So the twin-thing runs in the family. Now, Fai modeled Chi after his mother, blonde and all that. So why Freya and not Chi? Because, In Chobits, Freya was the twin who literally died from depression of an unrequited love. I think Fai & Yui's mother killed herself from depression. Plus, while Celes has a French-theme, few things about Valeria makes me think it's a Norse/Greek-theme country: The Emperor's headset, and Fai's mention of Lethe from Greek Mythology, and shoot me if ''Freya'' isn't a goddess in Norse mythology. (And it's SO like Fai to re-name things to sound cuter, like ''Chi'' rather than ''Freya'' or ''Elda''. Remember what he did with ''Kurogane?)
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*** And I'm thrilled to announce that Real Clow Sakura is ''not'' the clone/mother/daughter of C!Sakura. So... there's that little mercy.


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** Uh... [[TheMultiverse The World?]]
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** Wait, Stop. Yuko? Wasn't Fei Wong trying to revive Clow Reed? Actually it would make more sense if it's Yuko. Because something at the end of the manga hinted that Fei Wong wasn't exactly human, and was born from a wish a powerful magician made, AKA Clow. Clow was so powerful his wish for Yuko not to die might have manifested in a human, evil from called Fei Wong Reed. Does the name "Fei Wong" has a meaning? knowing Clamp it has to! (You know, if they really thought this through when they first started the Manga)
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*** But keep in mind that Sakura and Syaoran knew what Watanuki is, and didn't name him the same as Li Tsubasa. Watanuki shouldn't have existed, and neither did C!Syaoran. If wings come in pairs, and Syaoran/Tsubasa and Sakura/Tsubasa are a pair, then maybe Watanuki is a "pair" with C!Syaoran... which is technically his father... I don't know where C!Sakura comes into this. [[JustBugsMe Know what? I'm out]].

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*** But keep in mind that Sakura and Syaoran knew what Watanuki is, and didn't name might not have named him the same as Li Tsubasa. Watanuki shouldn't have existed, and neither did C!Syaoran. If wings come in pairs, and Syaoran/Tsubasa R!Syaoran/Tsubasa and Sakura/Tsubasa R!Sakura/Tsubasa are a pair, then maybe Watanuki is a "pair" with C!Syaoran... which is technically his father... I don't know where C!Sakura the Sakura clones comes into this. How many were there again? [[JustBugsMe Know what? I'm out]].

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**** But keep in mind that Sakura and Syaoran knew what Watanuki is, and didn't name him the same as Li Tsubasa. Watanuki shouldn't have existed, and neither did C!Syaoran. If wings come in pairs, and Syaoran/Tsubasa and Sakura/Tsubasa are a pair, then maybe Watanuki is a "pair" with C!Syaoran... which is technically his father... I don't know where C!Sakura comes into this. [[JustBugsMe Know what? I'm out]].



* I tried to keep track of the bodies and souls, but that just gave me a WHOLE bunch of questions. What was the point of Yuuko retrieving T[[spoiler:subasa]]!Sakura’s body? For Clone!Syaoran, I can accept it, since that seems to be the only way to get hold of his soul, but C!Sakura’s soul was fine [[spoiler:in the World of Dreams]] before [[spoiler:the Syaorans started duking it out]]. What happened to T!Sakura’s body? Did it legitimately fall apart after [[spoiler:the deal for reincarnation was made with Yuuko, since the C!Souls were born into new bodies and grew up as new humans]]? Or is it floating around somewhere AGAIN? What is going on in the tube before the Sakuras start casting their spell? Who is saying what? Does P[[spoiler:aused]]!Sakura gain memories of what happened to the other Sakuras and Syaorans, since it’s her soul in F[[spoiler:used]]!Sakura? How does she get these memories, she was [[spoiler:TRAPPED IN TIME FOR YEARS ON END]]! What happened to T!Sakura’s soul? Is SHE the one in F!Sakura, who reveals her real name in the epilogue? How did she get in there?!

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* I tried to keep track of the bodies and souls, but that just gave me a WHOLE bunch of questions. What was the point of Yuuko retrieving T[[spoiler:subasa]]!Sakura’s [[spoiler:Tsubasa]]!Sakura’s body? For Clone!Syaoran, I can accept it, since that seems to be the only way to get hold of his soul, but C!Sakura’s soul was fine [[spoiler:in the World of Dreams]] before [[spoiler:the Syaorans started duking it out]]. What happened to T!Sakura’s body? Did it legitimately fall apart after [[spoiler:the deal for reincarnation was made with Yuuko, since the C!Souls were born into new bodies and grew up as new humans]]? Or is it floating around somewhere AGAIN? What is going on in the tube before the Sakuras start casting their spell? Who is saying what? Does P[[spoiler:aused]]!Sakura gain memories of what happened to the other Sakuras and Syaorans, since it’s her soul in F[[spoiler:used]]!Sakura? How does she get these memories, she was [[spoiler:TRAPPED IN TIME FOR YEARS ON END]]! What happened to T!Sakura’s soul? Is SHE the one in F!Sakura, who reveals her real name in the epilogue? How did she get in there?!
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** Similarly, other man-made characters like [[Manga/{{Chobits}} Chi, Freya, Minoru's maids,]] [[AngelicLayer Blanche, Hikaru,]] [[{{Manga/Clover}} and the robot rabbit]] all manage to be reborn in multiple worlds. According to the ''Manga/{{Chobits}}'' manga, persocoms do have souls, but the same doesn't go for [[AngelicLayer Angels]] or ''{{Manga/Clover}}'''s robots. So how did ''they'' manage it?

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** Similarly, other man-made characters like [[Manga/{{Chobits}} Chi, Freya, Minoru's maids,]] [[AngelicLayer [[Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer Blanche, Hikaru,]] [[{{Manga/Clover}} and the robot rabbit]] all manage to be reborn in multiple worlds. According to the ''Manga/{{Chobits}}'' manga, persocoms do have souls, but the same doesn't go for [[AngelicLayer [[Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer Angels]] or ''{{Manga/Clover}}'''s robots. So how did ''they'' manage it?
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** Well, according to Ashura, [[spoiler: Yui/"Fai" based Chi off of his dead mother, and since "everything is hitsuzen", and Chi and Hideki are a couple in Chobits... Hideki potentially was Yui and Fai's father.]] Let that sink in for a moment. (Which means he technically, potentially got an off screen reference.)
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** The changing of Ashura and Yasha was caused by an interruption in the timeline through a method of time travel, but R!Syaoran's timeline was based on a wish, which presumably works under different rules.
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** Because they're not Tsubasa. He is the one who made is life a paradox but choosing to reverse time in the first place (even if he would exist had he made another choice) so he is the only one who had to be erased. Plus Shaolan only existed because the timeline was messed up because he doesn't have parents, while Clow was the result of the Stable Time Loop. C!Sakura let the feather in Tokyo which because the Clow of R!Sakura which change because of R!Shaolan choice. Tokyo didn't change when Shaolan when back in time so that past isn't the resultat of a paradox.
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* One big problem I have. Was the RSyaoran always the son of his clone (...)? How does time travel work? In the Ashura/Yasha storyline, Syaoran and friends went back to the past and changed history. However, the last arc treats the whole thing as if "you already changed the past" which completely contradicts it.

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* One big problem I have. Was the RSyaoran R!Syaoran always the son of his clone (...)? How does time travel work? In the Ashura/Yasha storyline, Syaoran and friends went back to the past and changed history. However, the last arc treats the whole thing as if "you already changed the past" which completely contradicts it.
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* At the end of the series, is Fay still a vampire, but just a "dormant" one who doesn't need blood to survive, or has he totally reverted back to being a human? I might think that it's the former since (1) Yuuko said if he gets his magic back then he "won't need blood anymore", not that he won't become a vampire anymore, and (2) considering the excruciating pain his body went through when he transformed from human to vampire, I assume the same painful process would occur if he turns into a human again. If it's the latter, does that mean Kurogane's lifespan has also decreased? (He got an "extended" life because he became Fay's prey when Fay was a vampire.)
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*** Let's see if I can do this: [[spoiler:Fei Wong Reed wants to bring someone BackFromTheDead, so this is probably a case of LoveMakesYouEvil. Of course, resurrection is a big no-no in the CLAMP multiverse, so he needs Sakura's power (and possibly [[OurSoulsAreDifferent souls]] from the Manga/CardcaptorSakura and {{xxxHolic}} universe) to do it. He created [[CloningBlues clone!Sakura and clone!Syaoran]] to gather Sakura's feathers after he caused them to be scattered in various worlds in order to power the ritual/device/whatever that will bring back the aforementioned dead person while he held the real ones prisoner. Yuuko is trying to stop him for some reason, [[TheEndoftheWorldAsWeKnowIt which probably means doing what he's trying to do will hurt the multiverse somehow]] or [[DrunkWithPower he's an evil bastard who will abuse the power]]. The Tsubasa gang wants to stop him in order to (a) [[DamselinDistress rescue the real Princess Sakura]], (b) [[YouKilledMyFather get revenge for murdering Kurogane's mother]], and (c) because he's really evil. And something about Syaoran making a selfish wish and causing this whole mess. And a whole lot of other confusing stuff.]] I probably missed some stuff so someone might want to expand or add stuff.

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*** Let's see if I can do this: [[spoiler:Fei Wong Reed wants to bring someone BackFromTheDead, so this is probably a case of LoveMakesYouEvil. Of course, resurrection is a big no-no in the CLAMP multiverse, so he needs Sakura's power (and possibly [[OurSoulsAreDifferent souls]] from the Manga/CardcaptorSakura and {{xxxHolic}} Manga/XxxHolic universe) to do it. He created [[CloningBlues clone!Sakura and clone!Syaoran]] to gather Sakura's feathers after he caused them to be scattered in various worlds in order to power the ritual/device/whatever that will bring back the aforementioned dead person while he held the real ones prisoner. Yuuko is trying to stop him for some reason, [[TheEndoftheWorldAsWeKnowIt which probably means doing what he's trying to do will hurt the multiverse somehow]] or [[DrunkWithPower he's an evil bastard who will abuse the power]]. The Tsubasa gang wants to stop him in order to (a) [[DamselinDistress rescue the real Princess Sakura]], (b) [[YouKilledMyFather get revenge for murdering Kurogane's mother]], and (c) because he's really evil. And something about Syaoran making a selfish wish and causing this whole mess. And a whole lot of other confusing stuff.]] I probably missed some stuff so someone might want to expand or add stuff.



** Actually, if you read {{XXXHolic}} then you find out that [[spoiler:Yuuko has been dead the entire time. She was only living on borrowed time.]]

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** Actually, if you read {{XXXHolic}} ''Manga/XxxHolic'' then you find out that [[spoiler:Yuuko has been dead the entire time. She was only living on borrowed time.]]



*** They are '''not''' the CCS Syaoran and Sakura. CCS Syaoran and Sakura are Syaorans and Sakuras of a different world, and Clow Reed, after doing all the necessary things for Tsubasa and XXXHolic left his magic for CCS!Sakura to inherit. Whereas the reincarnated clones grew up fully aware of their past lives. That is obviously not how CCS Syaoran and Sakura were.

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*** They are '''not''' the CCS Syaoran and Sakura. CCS Syaoran and Sakura are Syaorans and Sakuras of a different world, and Clow Reed, after doing all the necessary things for Tsubasa and XXXHolic Manga/XxxHolic left his magic for CCS!Sakura to inherit. Whereas the reincarnated clones grew up fully aware of their past lives. That is obviously not how CCS Syaoran and Sakura were.



** It was always darker and edgier; we just didn't know it. The darkness creeped in slowly, inexorably. The very beginning in Clow country set up for the link to Acid Tokyo and Fei Wong's insidious machinations to, er, save Yuko's life; Yuko's relevance to the story was hinted at by her regular appearances; the darkness began showing up with the Rekort arc and that thing in the jungle with the bunny-people, and hints as to the true nature of Cloney began VERY early on with the shots of Syaoran Jr in his stasis tube. On the xxxHoLic side, we had a shot of Mom!Sakura and Syaoran Sr.'s tube early on as well (and Watanuki's existence issues were hinted at LONG before things turned really dark). It was never sudden, simply lurking just beneath the surface.

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** It was always darker and edgier; we just didn't know it. The darkness creeped in slowly, inexorably. The very beginning in Clow country set up for the link to Acid Tokyo and Fei Wong's insidious machinations to, er, save Yuko's life; Yuko's relevance to the story was hinted at by her regular appearances; the darkness began showing up with the Rekort arc and that thing in the jungle with the bunny-people, and hints as to the true nature of Cloney began VERY early on with the shots of Syaoran Jr in his stasis tube. On the xxxHoLic [=xxxHoLic=] side, we had a shot of Mom!Sakura and Syaoran Sr.'s tube early on as well (and Watanuki's existence issues were hinted at LONG before things turned really dark). It was never sudden, simply lurking just beneath the surface.



* xxxHoLic question, because that one lacks a just bugs me page and its easier this way. Who, exactly, did Yuko and Watanuki make their contracts to work the shop in exchange for a wish with, if in both cases the shop was unmanned at the time they made the deal, and they were the one to man it afterwards? Did they make a Faustian bargain with themselves from a week in the future?

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* xxxHoLic Manga/XxxHolic question, because that one lacks a just bugs me page and its easier this way. Who, exactly, did Yuko and Watanuki make their contracts to work the shop in exchange for a wish with, if in both cases the shop was unmanned at the time they made the deal, and they were the one to man it afterwards? Did they make a Faustian bargain with themselves from a week in the future?
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** Similarly, other man-made characters like [[{{Chobits}} Chi, Freya, Minoru's maids,]] [[AngelicLayer Blanche, Hikaru,]] [[{{Manga/Clover}} and the robot rabbit]] all manage to be reborn in multiple worlds. According to the ''{{Chobits}}'' manga, persocoms do have souls, but the same doesn't go for [[AngelicLayer Angels]] or ''{{Manga/Clover}}'''s robots. So how did ''they'' manage it?

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** Similarly, other man-made characters like [[{{Chobits}} [[Manga/{{Chobits}} Chi, Freya, Minoru's maids,]] [[AngelicLayer Blanche, Hikaru,]] [[{{Manga/Clover}} and the robot rabbit]] all manage to be reborn in multiple worlds. According to the ''{{Chobits}}'' ''Manga/{{Chobits}}'' manga, persocoms do have souls, but the same doesn't go for [[AngelicLayer Angels]] or ''{{Manga/Clover}}'''s robots. So how did ''they'' manage it?

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* What bugs me is people spelling Touya's name as Toya. CLAMP specifically have it as Touya, because the spelling of 'Toya' is specifically meant for Yukito only. He's MEANT to say Touya's name slightly differently and can't help it even if he tries. Official translators changing it then confuses the part of the fandom that don't have that knowledge. Some translations companies just do not do their research. Like Del Ray with Tsubasa...

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* What bugs me is people spelling Touya's name as Toya. CLAMP specifically have it as Touya, because the spelling of 'Toya' is specifically meant for Yukito only. He's MEANT to say Touya's name slightly differently and can't help it even if he tries. Official translators changing it then confuses the part of the fandom that don't have that knowledge. Some translations companies just do not do their research. Like Del Ray Rey with Tsubasa...Tsubasa...
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--->Throughout the translation of Tsubasa, we've been using a circumflex above any "long" vowel in Japanese such as ''ô''. It is intended to indicate that a vowel sound is held a beat longer than a normally pronounced vowel. In the case of ''ô'', whereas a normal ''o'' would be pronounced "oh", the "long" vowel sound is held a moment longer as in, "ooh..." In Japanese, this is spelled with the ''hiragana'' that is pronounced "o" and is followed by another ''hiragana'' character normally pronounced "u" (but in this case, both are pronounced with and "oh" sound).
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*One big problem I have. Was the RSyaoran always the son of his clone (...)? How does time travel work? In the Ashura/Yasha storyline, Syaoran and friends went back to the past and changed history. However, the last arc treats the whole thing as if "you already changed the past" which completely contradicts it.
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**** [[MeaningfulName Pseudonym]]. Kimihiro = prophet. Watanuki = Written as April 1st, which is Sakura's birthday among other things. Watanuki means padded clothes, and refers to removing the padding from clothes on April 1st and making a substitute to protect the owner (generally a child) from evil.

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**** *** [[MeaningfulName Pseudonym]]. Kimihiro = prophet. Watanuki = Written as April 1st, which is Sakura's birthday among other things. Watanuki means padded clothes, and refers to removing the padding from clothes on April 1st and making a substitute to protect the owner (generally a child) from evil.



**** Wait, I thought [[spoiler: he only made the Clone!Sakura when they went into the ruins in, what, the first volume?]]
**** I think he needed the [[spoiler: clones because having pawns that knew what was actually going on would get in the way. Having clones with no memory of him probably suits his purpose much better than sending out someone who probably quite wants to kill him]]. Also, if I am not mistaken, the [[spoiler: Feather-memories really are unnecessary, except as his own personal PlotDevice to ''get'' them traveling.]]
**** This just in, [[spoiler: he wanted them to travel for a specific reason also- to get them to go to Acid Tokyo, which is the past of the Country of Clow]].
**** My impression was that the whole business in Syaoran's flashback was all designed to get Syaoran to wish [[spoiler: to turn back time, thus creating all manner of potential disturbances in the timeline and destabilizing the multiverse, which appears to be necessary to his ridiculously complicated plan for gaining the ability to bring back the dead]].

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**** *** Wait, I thought [[spoiler: he only made the Clone!Sakura when they went into the ruins in, what, the first volume?]]
**** *** I think he needed the [[spoiler: clones because having pawns that knew what was actually going on would get in the way. Having clones with no memory of him probably suits his purpose much better than sending out someone who probably quite wants to kill him]]. Also, if I am not mistaken, the [[spoiler: Feather-memories really are unnecessary, except as his own personal PlotDevice to ''get'' them traveling.]]
**** *** This just in, [[spoiler: he wanted them to travel for a specific reason also- to get them to go to Acid Tokyo, which is the past of the Country of Clow]].
**** *** My impression was that the whole business in Syaoran's flashback was all designed to get Syaoran to wish [[spoiler: to turn back time, thus creating all manner of potential disturbances in the timeline and destabilizing the multiverse, which appears to be necessary to his ridiculously complicated plan for gaining the ability to bring back the dead]].



**** Well, I could be wrong, but [[spoiler: they're in an alternate Clow ''anyway''. At the beginning of the manga, we have Fujitaka as AdventurerArchaeologist and Clow Reed as King of Clow (deceased). But that's been revealed to be some sort of world that Asschin created for the clones (maybe?), because Fujitaka and Nadeshiko are the actual monarchs of Clow (or were, rather). So yes, something screwy is going on.]] Apparently, we have no choice but to wait for Clamp to reveal things in their own sweet time. Dammit.

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**** *** Well, I could be wrong, but [[spoiler: they're in an alternate Clow ''anyway''. At the beginning of the manga, we have Fujitaka as AdventurerArchaeologist and Clow Reed as King of Clow (deceased). But that's been revealed to be some sort of world that Asschin created for the clones (maybe?), because Fujitaka and Nadeshiko are the actual monarchs of Clow (or were, rather). So yes, something screwy is going on.]] Apparently, we have no choice but to wait for Clamp to reveal things in their own sweet time. Dammit.



**** Looking at the Japanese [=RAWs=], the exact phrasing is [[spoiler: 'namae no hibiki'. 'Hibiki' is 'echo', so it's more like it's saying the names are echoes of each other, which still doesn't make much sense, but slightly more than 'similar'.]]

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**** *** Looking at the Japanese [=RAWs=], the exact phrasing is [[spoiler: 'namae no hibiki'. 'Hibiki' is 'echo', so it's more like it's saying the names are echoes of each other, which still doesn't make much sense, but slightly more than 'similar'.]]
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* Speaking of that last chapter -- Just one major issue. Ok, so R!Syaoran's existence depended on the StableTimeLoop which having been broken leaves him a paradox. But then the whole of Clow Country and all their inhabitants including R!Sakura and family depended on the other StableTimeLoop involving the reservoir and C!Sakura's feather, which is also RetGone! So how come they aren't a paradox as well, paying their price for existing?
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** Hopefully we'll find out in the next chapter. I ''think'' what Asschin meant is that [[spoiler: Clow once tried to bring Yuuko back from the dead and failed, so he put her 'outside time and space'. And now Asschin's trying to pull her back out, for whatever reason.]] Damn you and your MindScrew, {{Clamp}}!! *Shakes fist*

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** Hopefully we'll find out in the next chapter. I ''think'' what Asschin meant is that [[spoiler: Clow once tried to bring Yuuko back from the dead and failed, so he put her 'outside time and space'. And now Asschin's trying to pull her back out, for whatever reason.]] Damn you and your MindScrew, {{Clamp}}!! Creator/{{Clamp}}!! *Shakes fist*



* Dudes, TRC is basically a published version of the Ultimate Headscratcher. Don't think about it too much, or your head will implode.

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* Dudes, TRC is basically a published version of the Ultimate Headscratcher. Don't think about it too much, or your head will implode.
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*** Which is why she commented afterwards that she was getting soft- she left that loophole in intentionally. [[XanatosGambit Most likely as a part of The Plan.]]

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*** Which is why she commented afterwards that she was getting soft- she left that loophole in intentionally. [[XanatosGambit Most likely as a part of The Plan.]]ThePlan.



* Where did Fei Wong Reed come from, anyway? Was he a manifestation of Clow's reality warp? A relative of Clow's also in love with Yuko? Some random schmo who had an unfortunate hobby and a knack for XanatosRoulette?
* How the fuck did all the XanatosRoulette players (CCS Sakura, Yuko, the two Reeds, male Tsubasa, Fei) ''plan'' everything out so well? This isn't wheels within wheels like most [[GambitPileup Gambit Pileups]], its wheels within wheels within wheels within R'lyeh as drawn by M.C. Escher on LSD!

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* Where did Fei Wong Reed come from, anyway? Was he a manifestation of Clow's reality warp? A relative of Clow's also in love with Yuko? Some random schmo who had an unfortunate hobby and a knack for XanatosRoulette?
GambitRoulette?
* How the fuck did all the XanatosRoulette GambitRoulette players (CCS Sakura, Yuko, the two Reeds, male Tsubasa, Fei) ''plan'' everything out so well? This isn't wheels within wheels like most [[GambitPileup Gambit Pileups]], its wheels within wheels within wheels within R'lyeh as drawn by M.C. Escher on LSD!

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