History Headscratchers / TronLegacy

9th May '16 12:00:59 AM erforce
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*** Oh, no! [[{{Terminator}} Skynet]]!

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*** Oh, no! [[{{Terminator}} [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Skynet]]!
16th Feb '16 1:29:07 PM Allronix
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** Seeing as he ran that universe's answer to Apple or IBM, It's entirely possible that he coded a lot of them, but took others from decaying hard drives, decommissioned mainframes, obsolete servers, etc. , saving them from the "natural" death they'd have otherwise.
16th Feb '16 1:19:14 PM Allronix
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** Some praise should also go to Alan Bradley. Remember, Tron was designed to fight renegade AI. And Alan is a very cautious and sneaky guy with a healthy suspicion of artificial intelligence (Note the "KlatuuBaradaNikto" quote in his cube in the first film). So, he makes very, very sure that Tron is ThreeLawsCompliant. Law One: Harm no User, or allow the harm of a User by inaction. Law Two: Obey User commands (Flynn's comment could be broadly interpreted as one). Law Three: Preserve your existence ''unless'' Laws One or Two would be violated in the process. So as soon as there was an opening, Law Three goes out the window because Users in danger and User commands you to protect them.

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** Some praise should also go to Alan Bradley. Remember, Tron was designed to fight renegade AI. And Alan is a very cautious and sneaky guy with a healthy suspicion of artificial intelligence (Note the "KlatuuBaradaNikto" "KlaatuBaradaNikto" quote in his cube in the first film). So, he makes very, very sure that Tron is ThreeLawsCompliant. Law One: Harm no User, or allow the harm of a User by inaction. Law Two: Obey User commands (Flynn's comment could be broadly interpreted as one). Law Three: Preserve your existence ''unless'' Laws One or Two would be violated in the process. So as soon as there was an opening, Law Three goes out the window because Users in danger and User commands you to protect them.
16th Feb '16 1:15:59 PM Allronix
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*** ''It doesn't matter what they think and feel if it's all simulation. Should someone feel guilty for destroying something that isn't real?'' [[FlatWhat Wat.]] Are you seriously arguing that the living, thinking, active entities that can physically interact with users in the Grid and are capable of transitioning into the real world aren't ''real''? I guess the whole thing is a hallucination on the parts of the Flynns. Programs within the Tron setting are very much real, discrete entities that can permanently die, and it is quite clear that Sam and Kevin Flynn both believe that this is the case. They're ''not'' going to derezz programs just to gain a diguise.\\

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*** ''It doesn't matter what they think and feel if it's all simulation. Should someone feel guilty for destroying something that isn't real?'' [[FlatWhat Wat.]] Are you seriously arguing that the living, thinking, active entities that can physically interact with users in the Grid and are capable of transitioning into the real world aren't ''real''? I guess the whole thing is a hallucination on the parts of the Flynns. Programs within the Tron setting are very much real, discrete entities that can permanently die, and it is quite clear that Sam and Kevin Flynn both believe that this is the case. They're ''not'' going to derezz programs just to gain a diguise.disguise.\\


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** Some praise should also go to Alan Bradley. Remember, Tron was designed to fight renegade AI. And Alan is a very cautious and sneaky guy with a healthy suspicion of artificial intelligence (Note the "KlatuuBaradaNikto" quote in his cube in the first film). So, he makes very, very sure that Tron is ThreeLawsCompliant. Law One: Harm no User, or allow the harm of a User by inaction. Law Two: Obey User commands (Flynn's comment could be broadly interpreted as one). Law Three: Preserve your existence ''unless'' Laws One or Two would be violated in the process. So as soon as there was an opening, Law Three goes out the window because Users in danger and User commands you to protect them.
16th Jan '16 8:24:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* Regarding the Isos. Yes, it was a horrible, evil, Sith-Level monstrosity that Clu committed by inciting hatred against them. [[TronEvolution The creation of Abraxas and cold murder of Radia]] just scratched the surface. [[TronUprising The Iso Wars, bombing of their cities, mass genocide are even worse]]. However, the Grid was falling apart from gridbugs, system failures, and capacity issues before the coup (see the Betrayal comic). It went from being on the verge of irrecoverable crash to stable enough to run uninterrupted for nearly 21 years. The other disturbing element was that Flynn was delighted about the Isos, enough and go on and on about how great Isos were, how much of a "miracle" they were, his "gift to the world." The Programs get slapped with a denigrating label of Basics, and Flynn doesn't seem to be interested in them (to the point of possibly throwing them all under the bus, Tron included, just to he could save Quorra and his own ass). But aren't the Programs ''also'' miracles? Aren't they also life from nothing with unknown origin? Aren't they also sentient lifeforms with their own social order, dreams, sense of humor? Weren't they also worth respect? Wouldn't even the simplest accounting script like Ram rewrite everything - science, medicine, religion - just as much as an Iso could?

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* Regarding the Isos. Yes, it was a horrible, evil, Sith-Level monstrosity that Clu committed by inciting hatred against them. [[TronEvolution [[VideoGame/TronEvolution The creation of Abraxas and cold murder of Radia]] just scratched the surface. [[TronUprising [[WesternAnimation/TronUprising The Iso Wars, bombing of their cities, mass genocide are even worse]]. However, the Grid was falling apart from gridbugs, system failures, and capacity issues before the coup (see the Betrayal comic). It went from being on the verge of irrecoverable crash to stable enough to run uninterrupted for nearly 21 years. The other disturbing element was that Flynn was delighted about the Isos, enough and go on and on about how great Isos were, how much of a "miracle" they were, his "gift to the world." The Programs get slapped with a denigrating label of Basics, and Flynn doesn't seem to be interested in them (to the point of possibly throwing them all under the bus, Tron included, just to he could save Quorra and his own ass). But aren't the Programs ''also'' miracles? Aren't they also life from nothing with unknown origin? Aren't they also sentient lifeforms with their own social order, dreams, sense of humor? Weren't they also worth respect? Wouldn't even the simplest accounting script like Ram rewrite everything - science, medicine, religion - just as much as an Iso could?
24th May '15 8:05:01 AM Kilaknux
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** Plus, he's ''not'' an expert at dodging and flips. He can do both, but in the case of the former it's never something beyond reflex and athleticism, and in the latter he can do them, but always falls on his face afterwards.
19th Apr '15 1:35:23 AM CB2001
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*** Or, the books are actually just text files. Since most of the books whose authors were listed are in the public domain, it'd make sense that even in 1989, anyone could have text file copies of those authors' works.
19th Apr '15 1:26:51 AM CB2001
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** A lot of people misinterpret that in order to get out, you had to have the right disc. When it comes to Sam, he could still exit out of the system with his disc (this is apparent when Kevin Flynn tried to talk his son to continue to run for the portal so that he could shut down CLU from the outside. If Sam needed Flynn's disc to exit out of the system, then wouldn't his father have agreed to go after the disc before trying to push Sam to go to the portal? The point is that a User's disc can allow a user out, as well as let out a program that has a user's disc. Flynn's Disc isn't necessary for Sam to get out, as he's a user himself).
19th Apr '15 1:15:06 AM CB2001
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** Pagers are still in use in certain fields. For example, medical doctors use dedicated pagers to get direct alerts when they are needed.
19th Apr '15 1:11:02 AM CB2001
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** The answer is much more simple: the matter that made Kevin Flynn was stored in the laser (the production designer talked about the tanks that are seen on the laser in the hidden office), and when Quorra exited out of the system using Kevin Flynn's disc, it used the matter that once belong to Kevin Flynn to create Quorra.
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