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* I don't know if this was explained in any of the movies before the fourth one, but Bo isn't one of Andy's toys. She and her sheep are part of a lamp that belongs to Molly; Andy just uses her as a love interest for Woody to have to save.
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[[WMG: Why does Andy have a Bo Peep figure? All his other toys are traditional boy's toys or at most gender-agnostic.]]
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[[WMG: No help/intervention for Sid?]]
* OK, so it's made clear that Sid likes to blow up toys. ''Why has no one intervened!?'' Don't you think someone would've contacted the police by now? Why hadn't his parents intervene and got him psychological help? Why is everyone seemingly OK with the fact that a little boy likes to make his backyard sound like a war's going on in there? Why are his parents seemingly OK with his disturbed habits?
** Sid's parents were probably the type that let their kids do whatever they want because it would be too much effort to keep an eye on them. Any police officers that got sent might have just laughed it off with "Boys will be boys" or "I remember when I did stuff to my toys at that age..." Even if they did fine them for it, Sid's parents might think it's easier to bail Sid out repeatedly than to stop him. Heck, they might not think he's doing anything wrong. Andy's family moving away could have been partially caused by this.
** As pointed out on [[NightmareFuel/ToyStory the Nightmare Fuel page]], Scud's actions when he sees Sid's father imply that he's abusing the dog. Add to that our other clues regarding Mr. Phillips: his only appearance is in his man-cave, asleep in his chair, with empty beer cans scattered all over the floor and the TV left on (so that Buzz can watch his worldview-destroying commercial). The implication is that Sid's father is neglectful if not abusive, and his mother isn't likely to call the authorities in that setting.
** Sid's behaviour is actually pretty similar to a lot of kids, the explosions are a touch worrying but again nothing that's too out of the ordinary. Though the big one likely would have got him in some trouble.



[[WMG: In his introductory scene, doesn't Buzz find it weird that he has pre-recorded audio clips of himself that he can activate by pressing some buttons on his armor?]]
* If he thought he was the real Buzz at the time, then does that mean the Buzz Lightyear from the in-universe TV show also has generic audio clips? In the show, whenever he needs to say his thing ("Buzz Lightyear, space ranger of the Galactic Alliance, sworn to defeat Zurg" ect), does he press those buttons on his chest instead of actually saying it?
** Self-deception?
** Buzz isn't just factually unaware of the fact that he is a toy, he is delusional. You might as well ask, doesn't Buzz find it weird that he is made out of plastic instead of flesh and blood, with blatant action-figure joints? As shown in the scene where he claims he can "fly", he edits reality to conform to his own views, he isn't really perceiving what is happening in a rational way. He probably either ignores the audio clips or thinks he made them by speaking, according to the situation.
** Maybe he sees them as ways to communicate in space and on planets with poison air to fill in when his communication system isn't working?
[[WMG: The opening scenes of the first movie: Andy leaves his room. Hamm's contents are dumped out on the floor, and Mr. Potato Head is on the floor, his body parts scattered across the room. While he's downstairs for his birthday party, Hamm is shown scooping the money back into his slot and Mr. Potato Head puts himself back together. In this particular instance, Andy was too thrilled about getting Buzz to notice, but if behavior like this is common for Andy's toys, wouldn't he one day noticed that something's been changed since the last time he was in there with no explanation? I watched this movie again recently and noticed a lack of interest on the part of the toys of making sure to leave everything the way it was before.]]
* Well, how many times in RealLife do we go "I could have sworn I left X here" or "Who put my X in this room?" or "When did I put this in here?" Now we know why!
** It seems to be taken to ridiculous extremes, though. First movie: Andy leaves Buzz and Woody on his desk as he gets ready to go to Pizza Planet. Buzz "disappears," so Andy just takes Woody. At the end of the movie, Andy finds them in the box he JUST put in the car, and his mom comments they were "right where (he) left them," even though Buzz had NEVER been in the car. Second movie: The antagonist breaks open the cash box at the yard sale to steal Woody, and apparently Andy's mom never noticed, or she would likely have told Andy about it on the way home. And while Andy makes the reasonable assumption that his mom got him new toys while he was away, why would his mom never question where the toys really came from?
*** True, but if you found something in a place where you didn't put it, what are you gonna think? "OMGZ! IS ALIVE!!!!" Or "Eh, I probably put it there and forgot, or someone else did." Andy thinks his mom (or sister) moved his toys, while her mom]] just thinks Andy himself misplaced them and doesn't remember. And then she believes he got [[ActionGirl Jessie]] and the other himself.
*** I don't know about that last point. She probably thought either Andy was mistaken, or that she'd found them while cleaning and put them there without remembering afterward. Plenty of toys I don't remember getting somehow migrated to my room when I was a kid, it's not unlikely Andy or his mom would just shrug it off.
** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the beginning of ''[[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 TS3]]'': Andy notices that the toys moved around after 'Operation Playtime,' but blames it on Molly.
*** He noticed his cellphone was where it shouldn't be, not the toys.
*** Still. My cellphone "migrates" to different places often enough, usually I just think "Oh, right, must have set it down while doing something there", not "My Kamen Rider action figures are trying to get my attention."

[[WMG: Early in the first movie all the toys (except Woody) are terrified of getting replaced. I always thought this meant they were afraid of Andy getting an awesome toy that would make them look less appealing by comparison, and that makes sense, but then Andy gets a toy that makes all of them look pitiful by comparison and only Woody is bothered by this. Wouldn't all of the other toys have their fears of being replaced justified by the arrival of a Buzz Lightyear Action Figure? Or does being replaced constitute something else entirely?]]
* Woody is Andy's favorite toy. That's why he is so upset--he's not anymore. The other toys were already used to being second best--it made little difference to them whether Woody or Buzz was the favorite.
* Perhaps they knew that Buzz would take on the "hero" role in Andy's games, which meant that he wasn't a threat to anyone but the current hero, Woody. For example, it's a lot harder to replace the scary dinosaur in your fantasy with a space-man.
* The above answer is the best explanation. Rex, for example, worried that he'll be replaced with a braver, scarier dinosaur in the first ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory''. In other words, they don't particularly care about a new toy unless it's too similar to them.

[[WMG: Since Buzz didn't realize that he was a toy at first, why didn't he try interacting with any of the humans? Also, If Buzz thinks he's the real Buzz Lightyear, why does he allow Andy to write his name on his foot, freeze whenever he is around, and allow Andy to play with him?]]
* Could be justified. Buzz thinks this is a foreign planet, and as he sees the other toys playing dead whenever their "chief, Andy" shows up, he thinks he should too. When in Rome.
* He probably thought they were [[HumansAreCthulhu horrible aliens]].
* Or maybe there's some underlying instinct in toys that tells them not to get seen by humans. I think the alien thing is a better guess, though. Everyone else dropped immediately at their approach, and if you were in a foreign place and everyone was quickly dropping at the arrival of some huge things you presumed to be aliens, you'd follow suit, at least lie low long enough to figure out what they were and such. There may, however, have been a scene in the film with Buzz refusing to lie low that I have not forgotten, so if this contradicts that, feel free to tell me.
* I got the impression from the scene where Buzz shows the other toys Andy's name that he just accepted this as part of their culture and, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
* From the second movie, it seems all Buzz Lightyears think themselves as real, and the freezing thing is part of some protocol.
* I interpreted things as Buzz ''subconsciously'' knows that he's a toy (and thus follows all the toy-human conventions), but initially ''believes'' himself to be real.
* But why did he never even realize that his laser wasn't real? Andy's played with it before and never done any damage with it.
* * Ahem* [[http://twitter.com/leeunkrich/status/17630352010 Word of God]], here.
* Wait... does this mean all the toys in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' are actually [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping]] [[FridgeHorror Angels]]?
** Gee, thanks. Now I will never be able to watch ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' again.
** Unlike the Weeping Angels though, the toys are not forced to stay frozen whenever they're being watched, right? Or else surely Woody wouldn't have been able to remind Sid to [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome "play nice."]]
** So really, it's ''semi''-involuntary instinct, like breathing, or blinking.
* I figured no intelligent space ranger would attempt to converse with beings a few dozen times his size, whether they are screaming and flailing (Andy, his friends, Sid) or simply clanging about (the adults).

[[WMG: When Sid put the head of one toy in the body of another. Do these toys retain the memories of their heads or they become a different toy with a totally new personality?']]
* I assume they become like intelligent zombies, considering they don't even talk.
* The third movie establishes that [[spoiler: certain toys don't necessarily need to be connected to their parts to feel them. Mrs. Potato Head could still see through her missing eye, and Mr. Potato Head was able to move his limbs independently without his actual potato.]] I would guess the toys have a consciousness, either in one part of their body, like Woody [[spoiler: (who could not move his arm after it was lost in 2)]], or spread out through some parts, such as the Potato Heads. Any Frankenstein toys such as the latter category would still retain their ability to move their body parts independently, regardless of what they were attached to. Any in the former, however, would likely only be able to control what was attached to the part of their body holding their consciousness. The most likely assumption for this part is the head, but we don't really have confirmation one way or the other, and given the nature of toys, I don't feel comfortable assuming.
* I think it depends, but that it would lean towards head. Hannah's headless toys appear to have their own personality, and the Doll heads in Sid's room don't talk. I think it also depends on the intention of the toy. Since you're not supposed to remove Woody's or Buzz's arm they can't be used independently. Mr. Potato Head appeared to feel the attack to the tortilla. The rule is probably whatever the owner thinks.

[[WMG: Wasn't Andy supposed to be moving shortly after the birthday party? If so, why did he get a whole bunch of new Buzz Lightyear stuff like posters and bedsheets? Why didn't he just get that stuff after he moved?]]
* The bedsheets, at least, were a gift from one of his friends at the birthday party. His friend is just a dork.
* It wouldn't have been a stretch if Andy's mom told all the kids to buy Buzz-related merchandise as presents, as part of a themed birthday party. Andy opens his presents and gets a Buzz Lightyear lunchbox, Buzz Lightyear bedsheets, a Buzz Lightyear board game, etc., etc., etc., all culminating with the final present being an actual Buzz Lightyear toy.
* I can imagine his mom being all like, "Don't get all that new stuff out, we're moving soon!" but he was so excited he did anyway. Kids.

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[[WMG: In his introductory scene, doesn't Buzz find it weird that he has pre-recorded audio clips of himself that he can activate by pressing some buttons on his armor?]]
* If he thought he was the real Buzz at the time, then does that mean the Buzz Lightyear from the in-universe TV show also has generic audio clips? In the show, whenever he needs to say his thing ("Buzz Lightyear, space ranger of the Galactic Alliance, sworn to defeat Zurg" ect), does he press those buttons on his chest instead of actually saying it?
** Self-deception?
** Buzz isn't just factually unaware of the fact that he is a toy, he is delusional. You might as well ask, doesn't Buzz find it weird that he is made out of plastic instead of flesh and blood, with blatant action-figure joints? As shown in the scene where he claims he can "fly", he edits reality to conform to his own views, he isn't really perceiving what is happening in a rational way. He probably either ignores the audio clips or thinks he made them by speaking, according to the situation.
** Maybe he sees them as ways to communicate in space and on planets with poison air to fill in when his communication system isn't working?
[[WMG: The opening scenes of the first movie: Andy leaves his room. Hamm's contents are dumped out on the floor, and Mr. Potato Head is on the floor, his body parts scattered across the room. While he's downstairs for his birthday party, Hamm is shown scooping the money back into his slot and Mr. Potato Head puts himself back together. In this particular instance, Andy was too thrilled about getting Buzz to notice, but if behavior like this is common for Andy's toys, wouldn't he one day noticed that something's been changed since the last time he was in there with no explanation? I watched this movie again recently and noticed a lack of interest on the part of the toys of making sure to leave everything the way it was before.]]
* Well, how many times in RealLife do we go "I could have sworn I left X here" or "Who put my X in this room?" or "When did I put this in here?" Now we know why!
** It seems to be taken to ridiculous extremes, though. First movie: Andy leaves Buzz and Woody on his desk as he gets ready to go to Pizza Planet. Buzz "disappears," so Andy just takes Woody. At the end of the movie, Andy finds them in the box he JUST put in the car, and his mom comments they were "right where (he) left them," even though Buzz had NEVER been in the car. Second movie: The antagonist breaks open the cash box at the yard sale to steal Woody, and apparently Andy's mom never noticed, or she would likely have told Andy about it on the way home. And while Andy makes the reasonable assumption that his mom got him new toys while he was away, why would his mom never question where the toys really came from?
*** True, but if you found something in a place where you didn't put it, what are you gonna think? "OMGZ! IS ALIVE!!!!" Or "Eh, I probably put it there and forgot, or someone else did." Andy thinks his mom (or sister) moved his toys, while her mom]] just thinks Andy himself misplaced them and doesn't remember. And then she believes he got [[ActionGirl Jessie]] and the other himself.
*** I don't know about that last point. She probably thought either Andy was mistaken, or that she'd found them while cleaning and put them there without remembering afterward. Plenty of toys I don't remember getting somehow migrated to my room when I was a kid, it's not unlikely Andy or his mom would just shrug it off.
** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the beginning of ''[[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 TS3]]'': Andy notices that the toys moved around after 'Operation Playtime,' but blames it on Molly.
*** He noticed his cellphone was where it shouldn't be, not the toys.
*** Still. My cellphone "migrates" to different places often enough, usually I just think "Oh, right, must have set it down while doing something there", not "My Kamen Rider action figures are trying to get my attention."

[[WMG: Early in the first movie all the toys (except Woody) are terrified of getting replaced. I always thought this meant they were afraid of Andy getting an awesome toy that would make them look less appealing by comparison, and that makes sense, but then Andy gets a toy that makes all of them look pitiful by comparison and only Woody is bothered by this. Wouldn't all of the other toys have their fears of being replaced justified by the arrival of a Buzz Lightyear Action Figure? Or does being replaced constitute something else entirely?]]
* Woody is Andy's favorite toy. That's why he is so upset--he's not anymore. The other toys were already used to being second best--it made little difference to them whether Woody or Buzz was the favorite.
* Perhaps they knew that Buzz would take on the "hero" role in Andy's games, which meant that he wasn't a threat to anyone but the current hero, Woody. For example, it's a lot harder to replace the scary dinosaur in your fantasy with a space-man.
* The above answer is the best explanation. Rex, for example, worried that he'll be replaced with a braver, scarier dinosaur in the first ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory''. In other words, they don't particularly care about a new toy unless it's too similar to them.

[[WMG: Since Buzz didn't realize that he was a toy at first, why didn't he try interacting with any of the humans? Also, If Buzz thinks he's the real Buzz Lightyear, why does he allow Andy to write his name on his foot, freeze whenever he is around, and allow Andy to play with him?]]
* Could be justified. Buzz thinks this is a foreign planet, and as he sees the other toys playing dead whenever their "chief, Andy" shows up, he thinks he should too. When in Rome.
* He probably thought they were [[HumansAreCthulhu horrible aliens]].
* Or maybe there's some underlying instinct in toys that tells them not to get seen by humans. I think the alien thing is a better guess, though. Everyone else dropped immediately at their approach, and if you were in a foreign place and everyone was quickly dropping at the arrival of some huge things you presumed to be aliens, you'd follow suit, at least lie low long enough to figure out what they were and such. There may, however, have been a scene in the film with Buzz refusing to lie low that I have not forgotten, so if this contradicts that, feel free to tell me.
* I got the impression from the scene where Buzz shows the other toys Andy's name that he just accepted this as part of their culture and, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
* From the second movie, it seems all Buzz Lightyears think themselves as real, and the freezing thing is part of some protocol.
* I interpreted things as Buzz ''subconsciously'' knows that he's a toy (and thus follows all the toy-human conventions), but initially ''believes'' himself to be real.
* But why did he never even realize that his laser wasn't real? Andy's played with it before and never done any damage with it.
* * Ahem* [[http://twitter.com/leeunkrich/status/17630352010 Word of God]], here.
* Wait... does this mean all the toys in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' are actually [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping]] [[FridgeHorror Angels]]?
** Gee, thanks. Now I will never be able to watch ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' again.
** Unlike the Weeping Angels though, the toys are not forced to stay frozen whenever they're being watched, right? Or else surely Woody wouldn't have been able to remind Sid to [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome "play nice."]]
** So really, it's ''semi''-involuntary instinct, like breathing, or blinking.
* I figured no intelligent space ranger would attempt to converse with beings a few dozen times his size, whether they are screaming and flailing (Andy, his friends, Sid) or simply clanging about (the adults).

[[WMG: When Sid put the head of one toy in the body of another. Do these toys retain the memories of their heads or they become a different toy with a totally new personality?']]
* I assume they become like intelligent zombies, considering they don't even talk.
* The third movie establishes that [[spoiler: certain toys don't necessarily need to be connected to their parts to feel them. Mrs. Potato Head could still see through her missing eye, and Mr. Potato Head was able to move his limbs independently without his actual potato.]] I would guess the toys have a consciousness, either in one part of their body, like Woody [[spoiler: (who could not move his arm after it was lost in 2)]], or spread out through some parts, such as the Potato Heads. Any Frankenstein toys such as the latter category would still retain their ability to move their body parts independently, regardless of what they were attached to. Any in the former, however, would likely only be able to control what was attached to the part of their body holding their consciousness. The most likely assumption for this part is the head, but we don't really have confirmation one way or the other, and given the nature of toys, I don't feel comfortable assuming.
* I think it depends, but that it would lean towards head. Hannah's headless toys appear to have their own personality, and the Doll heads in Sid's room don't talk. I think it also depends on the intention of the toy. Since you're not supposed to remove Woody's or Buzz's arm they can't be used independently. Mr. Potato Head appeared to feel the attack to the tortilla. The rule is probably whatever the owner thinks.

[[WMG: Wasn't Andy supposed to be moving shortly after the birthday party? If so, why did he get a whole bunch of new Buzz Lightyear stuff like posters and bedsheets? Why didn't he just get that stuff after he moved?]]
* The bedsheets, at least, were a gift from one of his friends at the birthday party. His friend is just a dork.
* It wouldn't have been a stretch if Andy's mom told all the kids to buy Buzz-related merchandise as presents, as part of a themed birthday party. Andy opens his presents and gets a Buzz Lightyear lunchbox, Buzz Lightyear bedsheets, a Buzz Lightyear board game, etc., etc., etc., all culminating with the final present being an actual Buzz Lightyear toy.
* I can imagine his mom being all like, "Don't get all that new stuff out, we're moving soon!" but he was so excited he did anyway. Kids.




[[WMG: A small one from the first ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'': What happened to that burn mark on [[TheHero Woody's]] forehead? It was still there until the end of the movie but then disappears in the next. I assume it was painted over something.]]
* It was painted over during the repair scene in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2''. Also, if you look closely in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' [[spoiler:the mark appears again during the incinerator because the paint burns off]].
** [[TheProducerThinksOfEverything WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?]]
*** No it doesn't. He gets a dirty mark there briefly but it's gone by the next scene.
* In ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', the burn mark doesn't appear anywhere, before or after the repair scene.
* There's a simple answer for this. When he got it, Woody said "I sure hope this isn't permanent". It wasn't permanent.
* [[UnexplainedRecovery He got better]].
* I once briefly held a burning lighter against the burners of a Thunderbird 2 toy, to give it some realistic effects. You can get that kind of low-grade burn marks off with your finger.
* It was there when they landed in the car but gone during the Christmas party in the next scene. Presumably it either disappeared or was painted over when Andy cleaned him after they moved.
* I'm guessing the plastic was just singed, and didn't actually burn a hole. You can get singe marks off rather easily.


[[WMG: With regards to an above {{trope}}, if Buzz's wings can sever duct tape, why didn't he do that immediately after being rescued? Obviously, doing it with Sid around would have caused everyone's favorite toy sadist to do a double take, but Sid was having a hysterical fit in his room. Buzz could have cut the rocket from his back and not got stuck in the fence instead of waiting until the last minute when he and the poster character were about to be blown to cinders. That would have saved everyone an uncountable number of headaches.]]
* When did Sid have a hysterical fit in his room? Also, keep in mind that at that point, Buzz was still in HeroicBlueScreenOfDeath mode after discovering he wasn't really a space ranger.
** What I meant to say was "Sid was freaking out after witnessing his toys coming to life" but wanted to make it sound more colorful. But I suppose it makes sense that Buzz wouldn't have been thinking to use his wings straight away after everything that just happened.
* Plus, he probably didn't know his wings could tear the tape. The only reason he opened them up in the air was to "fly" with them. The tape and rocket being torn off was just an added bonus.
** Added bonus? The rocket was about to EXPLODE. When Woody mentioned it, Buzz said, "Not today!" and immediately deployed his wings. He knew what he was doing.
** Also, without the rocket, they never would have made it back to Andy. The plot called for it not to occur to Buzz to remove the rocket. WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, people.
* It didn't occur to him. Sometimes it's really that simple.

[[WMG: Why is Woody so insensitive about the Combat Carl getting blown up. He's not being ''mean'' or anything, but he looks at it and all he has to think about is "Boy, I wish that would happen to Buzz."]]
* He was kinda, "Aw, that's terrible, but we can't do anything to stop it." Honestly, Sid likely does this every day, so Woody and the other toys might've been desensitized to it by now. But yeah, he probably was thinking that about Buzz.
* Also? [[AntiHero Woody was a total]] ''[[{{Jerkass}} jerk]]'' in the first film. The reason it seems weird in hindsight is because after seeing the sequels, we're now used to Woody being more of a KnightInSourArmor instead of the {{Jerkass}} he [[CharacterDevelopment was]] in the first movie.
* Actually, in the first 'draft' of the movie, Woody was a sadistic, completely evil toy who had Slinky Dog as his slave. Although the article I read didn't explicitly say it, I assume the original idea for the movie was not supposed to be for kids. Compared to that, he was a saint in the real version. They seemed to just tone him down A LOT but keep a little of his jerkiness. I honestly think that his personality makes him slightly more relatable.
** ^ You are correct; when [=TS3=] was coming out, I saw a brief documentary behind the making of the first movie, I believe it was John Lassetter who said the execs at Disney wanted their first CGI movie to be "adult", and kept pressing Pixar to make the movie more and more ''edgy''; they even showed an animatic from said first draft, complete with Tom Hanks's voice-over, and Woody was constantly screaming and yelling at the other toys, treating them like they were less than shit. So, yes, Woody was a completely unlikable jerkass (and to call that version of Woody a jerkass is being too polite) in the original draft of the movie.
** To be precise, the person who kept pushing for the film to be edgy was Jeffery Katzenberg; the good guys at Pixar didn't listen to him, so he left for Creator/DreamWorks. (Good riddance, I say).



[[WMG:How come there isn't one Star Wars reference at all, not even to the original. The second with a scene parodying the "Luke I am Your Father" scene and the third with that scene parodying The Emperor's Death.]]
* The storyline that Buzz thought he was following, that of having secret plans to a super weapon the evil emperor is building with the power to destroy an entire planet, is ''identical'' to R2-D2's mission in A New Hope.
** Don't forget the scene where Sid torments Woody with, "Where is your rebel base now?!" Very much like what Vader's officer did to Princess Leia in ''A New Hope''.



[[WMG: Why did the toys think Woody killed Buzz?]]
* The toys are minding their business when Woody yells at them from Sid's house. They don't wanna help Woody because he knocked Buzz out the window due to jealousy. Woody tries to get Buzz to come to the window to prove he's fine, but Buzz is too depressed to do it, and instead throws his detached arm at him. Woody, like an idiot, tries to use the arm to fool the toys into helping him escape, but the plan fails and everyone is disgusted by him. Everything is fine and dandy here, but one thing sticks out: Potato Head calls Woody a "Murderer". But think; Woody is at Sid's house. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the toys to simply think Woody was using '''another''' Buzz's arm while their Buzz was still out and about? Why would they think that it's '''their''' Buzz? And on top of that, even if it was, why would they think '''Woody''' killed Buzz? Why couldn't Sid do that?
** The last time they saw Woody, he had pushed Buzz out the window as if to kill him. If the last you ever saw of a person before was trying to kill your friend, then later seeing carrying an arm that looks suspiciously like that friend's, it's not much of a leap to assume he ''did'' kill him. What's more, Woody dug his own hole by pretending the arm was Buzz.
*** Yeah, but here's the thing: 1) They don't '''know''' that their Buzz was with him. They were trying to rescue their Buzz the day before. They didn't know he got into the car where Woody was. Odds are, they just thought he ran off, or died in the fall. 2) He is in Sid's house. Sid is a sadistic kid when it comes to toys, and odds are, the kid has the ability to get whatever toy he wants to. Who's to say that he didn't get a different Buzz Lightyear for himself? I do agree though, that Woody did dig his own grave, but I just feel like Mr. Potato Head could have made a different conclusion; Instead of "Woody Killed Our Buzz!", he could have thought "Wow, Woody is so desperate that he's using a Buzz body part and trying to make us think that it's our Buzz? How pathetic". I don't get why he thinks that Woody murdered their Buzz when they don't know where their Buzz is, and that Sid could have easily murdered Buzz himself...
*** I would think they'd think that if Sid killed Buzz, Woody wouldn't be using his corpse to perpetuate his lie... Either way, as they already think Woody is a maniac who's trying to kill Buzz, they're likely predisposed to jump to the conclusion that fits with that.
** In a moment of shock, which one is faster to conclude? The toys are shocked because it turns out Woody was ''playing with a severed arm in front of them'', and are going to jump to the fastest conclusion. They're predisposed to distrust Woody because they know he tried to kill Buzz, they know he's been jealous of him for a long time now, and Mr. Potato Head and Hamm suspected something was up because Buzz suddenly being friends with Woody was too good to be true. If they ever considered the "maybe he used a spare Buzz arm" possibility later, they probably shrugged it off with "nah, he had been trying to kill Buzz for a while now".
** And they were likely sickened that Woody would stoop so low to play with a toy's dismembered limb, regardless of whether or not they thought the arm belonged to their Buzz. (And they likely did, because as far as they knew, Sid never had a Buzz toy of his own, otherwise he would've blown that Buzz up a long time ago. They saw a Buzz arm and concluded it was their Buzz.) And let's assume they thought it was SID that killed Buzz and dismembered him. Judging from Woody's reaction, it's clear that Woody isn't at all affected that his fellow toy from Andy's room was torn apart as one would think and is happy to fake out the other toys with Buzz's arm. To them, he's profiting off of Buzz's demise to get his own freedom. That's why Mr. Potato Head and Hamm did not believe him.
** I always figured that Andy's other toys had such a low opinion of Woody at that point, they might actually think that Woody had switched sides to become Sid's #1 toy, and was luring them into a trap.



[[WMG: Couldn't Al have just sued the airline for losing his extremely valuable luggage?]]
As far as anyone could've seen Al's bag came open during the transport process, which given how adamant he was on threatening the clerk about keeping the bag safe it makes sense that he would blame it on careless attendants and employees. He would probably have a pretty good case, as long as he could prove the toys were in the bag before being shipped.
* Who's to say he didn't? We don't know anything about what he did after losing the toys.
** I think the idea here is that since he is shown on commercial in financial ruin after the rescue, he didn't.
*** Financial ruin? What suggests that? All we see is that he's despondent over losing his chance to make millions of dollars in one fell swoop which, let's face it, would make anyone a bit glum. There's nothing to suggest that he's been completely wiped out.
* Operative word: prove. He's not that bright, he probably didn't think to take out special insurance or document the process of putting them on the airline. Depending on the amount of money he wanted the airline also may have fought him in court and won, or settled for a very small amount.



[[WMG: How come the claw machine at Pizza Planet is so strong?]]
As anyone who's ever played one can attest, claw machines are rigged so that on a majority of your tries, the machine will be too weak to grab anything. This is so that people will keep trying and the owners of the machine will make more money. On the rare occasion where the machine ''is'' strong enough to grab something, it's usually made to have barely enough strength to pick up a prize. The Pizza Planet claw machine however, seems to have an incredibly powerful grip. First, Buzz and Woody aren't supposed to be in the machine, and so it's likely not designed for toys as heavy as them. Second, it grabs Buzz's rounded helmet, which it should slip right off of, no matter how strong its grip. Third, Woody is actively pulling Buzz down, which should exceed the machine's grip strength if their natural weight wasn't enough already. Lastly, we see that the machine gives Sid a prize right before Buzz and Woody show up, so it should not have been able to pick them up at all. With all of this, how the hell was Sid able to get two prizes in a row, when the second set of prizes should have more than exceeded the machine's strength?
* Perhaps the toys were promotional material that was meant to be obtained that easily. Or the restaurant could have been nice enough to give their customers a fair chance at winning, instead of rigging the system against them. And don't forget, it is a combination fast food restaurant and arcade hall. Easy-to-get, dirt cheap toys could be just the kind of lure to get kids to the more profitable games and food.
* The claw's ways are mysterious... which is to say that it sometimes brings results when it's unexpected. My mom once tried to prove that the claw was a scam by playing it herself, [[SpringtimeForHitler only to pull in an awesome prize completely by accident]].
* Granted I'm in England (assuming Toy Story is American based on the suburb etc etc) but I've played on a claw game in which you put in a quid and you get to keep trying until you actually win something. If you've got seventy pence toys you can whack off for a quid each and you let the kid keep trying until he wins, more people will play (guaranteed toy in the eyes of the parent)



* I mean, he always talk to him in a bad manner in all movies, he was the only one who made jokes about him when Buzz came to Andy's bedroom and he lead the anti-Woody ambush in first movie and said stronger words to him than the rest of the gang.

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* I mean, he He always talk to him in a bad manner in all movies, he was the only one who made jokes about him when Buzz came to Andy's bedroom and he lead the anti-Woody ambush in first movie and said stronger words to him than the rest of the gang.



[[WMG: Why didn't Woody tell the other toys that ''Sid'' dismembered Buzz?]]
* That would have been believable, as they're well aware of Sid's antics. And it surely would have been more convincing to the others than the whole, "we're best friends now" thing.
** My answer is above in "Why did the toys think Woody killed Buzz?"
** They also didn't give him a chance to.
*** Not only that, but even if he did explain that Sid broke Buzz, there is the little fact that Woody is HOLDING A SEVERED ARM AND USING IT LIKE A PLAY PROP. If you thought someone killed one of your friends and then they were all "No, no, this person did it!" while waving a severed body part, you'd probably think they were deeply disturbed and lying.
** Woody had to think quickly, and arrived upon the wrong idea.

[[WMG: The Last Scene in [[WesternAnimation/{{ToyStory}} The First Movie]]...]]
* How do those Green Army men with Baby Monitor keep so well hidden in the Christmas Tree? In the beginning, where they took the Baby Monitor to the Bush, it made sense, because it was out of the way of the main party, it looked thick and healthy, and no one was really going to pay close attention to the Bush. But the Christmas Tree? It was right where everyone was! Christmas trees are never thick enough that they can disguise stuff (Unless those things are behind the Tree, which the Baby Monitor wasn't), and if they're anything like my family, we like to take a good couple of pictures in front of the Tree, which would probably increase the chances of Andy's Mom seeing the Baby Monitor/Green Army men. Also, I highly doubt a Christmas Tree branch can support a giant Baby monitor like that. Surely they could have hidden in something else?
** It's a live tree, and the monitor is sitting close to the trunk where the branches are strongest. Sarge picks a spot behind several ornaments; it's also established that the Army Men are no rookies to these missions and are experts at hiding and signaling to each other potential human activity. Photos involve plenty of talking and posturing, giving the men plenty of time to find hiding places among the tree. Worst case scenario, Andy's Mom finds the baby monitor and writes it off as some kind of practical joke.

[[WMG: How could Buzz know what Taiwan was?]]
* If Buzz was all convinced that he was from outer space in the beginning, then how did he know what Taiwan was when he read he was made there? And so quickly! By logic he should have thought Taiwan was a planet or a galaxy when he thought he was a space ranger.
** The part immediately before that was where he watched the rather lengthy toy commercial that repeatedly demonstrated and reiterated that he was just a toy? He probably would have dismissed it in such a fashion (or just not thought about it) had he not seen that first, but the "Made In Taiwan" stamp was just confirming the blindingly obvious for him at that point. In any case, he might be an astronaut, but he still comes from Earth, so has presumably heard about the country of Taiwan (and it being a base for cheap manufacturing of consumer products, including toys).
*** But he firstly thought he was in a foreign planet, did you forget that?
*** No, but the whole point of that scene is Buzz being bluntly confronted with the fact that he is not an actual space ranger, but is just a toy. At that point, the fact that he thought he was on another planet then is completely irrelevant, because ''now'' he is painfully aware that he is in fact on Earth, and the "Made in Taiwan" stamp is just further confirmation of that fact. He doesn't assume that Taiwan is another planet or galaxy because his illusions have been stripped from him and he now has no reason to.
** The generally-accepted interpretation is that Buzz ''knew'' he was a toy, he was just delusional or in denial. The "Made In Taiwan" sticker was the final straw; he couldn't explain why his spacesuit would be Taiwanese, and combined with all the other evidence, he had to accept that he was a toy.
*** Agreed. He knew he was a toy as soon as Woody started pointing it out, but he was too insecure to admit it, and seeing the advertisement made him finally realize that lying to himself was only destroying him inside. His failed attempt at flying directly afterwards wasn't an attempt to prove the advertisement wrong (as many seem to assume) but him giving himself his last chance at being who he thought he was.
*** To each their own interpretation, of course, but I'm honestly not sure you're getting this from, since I don't recall anything from the movie that suggests that Buzz knows he's a toy all along but is just insecure; from where I'm sitting everything about Buzz ''screams'' "utterly and sincerely deluded that he's a real space ranger". That particular scene is played as Buzz being completely shattered as he finally realizes the truth about himself, not that he finally lets go of a harmful delusion that's killing him inside, and everything about his attempt at flying is played as a last ditch attempt at denial. Just listen to the song lyrics at that moment -- "No! It can't be true!/I can fly if I wanted to!" That's someone desperately in denial about the truth, not someone who's known all along that they weren't who they pretended they were.
** Plus the exact words were "Made in Taiwan". "Made" as in manufactured and mass produced for commercial sale. That, combined with the commercial and Woody constantly telling him he's a toy convinced him of the truth.

[[WMG: Did Woody always do the "...There's been a bit of a mix-up..." speech whenever he was introducing a new toy into Andy's room]]
* When he first met Buzz, he said, "...There's been a bit of a mix-up. This is my spot, see, the bed here." This was before Woody found out Buzz was about to become the center of Andy's attention, and the toy's attention, so this left me wondering: did he always do this to every new toy Andy plopped onto his bed? "Hi, T-Rex, welcome to Andy's room. By the way, this bed is my spot, so please find somewhere else to be."
** I doubt it. Woody knows, from Andy's surprise and excitement, that Buzz is already an excellent toy before he is placed on the bed. Also, Andy says "This is where the spaceship lands!" implying that Andy was already planning to make Buzz his new bedtime toy. Therefore, Woody telling Buzz that it's his spot was him trying to persuade Buzz to stay away from there, in the hopes that Andy would lose interest in making the bed Buzz's new space earlier.
** It's a sign that Woody is already feeling jealous and threatened by Buzz's presence; he's staking his claim on the territory that Buzz is intruding on and trying to put Buzz in what Woody thinks is / should be his place. There may also be a bit of denial in there (i.e. "There's ''clearly'' some kind of mistake, Andy didn't mean to knock me aside like I wasn't there."). He's only commenting on it now because Buzz has knocked him off his perch at the top of the ladder, so to speak; if it was a 'lesser' toy who hadn't immediately captured Andy's affections, he wouldn't worry about it so much.
** Not only did Andy make a big deal out of Buss but he also knocked Woody onto the floor to place Buzz in his normal spot. That's going to leave Woody feeling awfully insecure, under normal circumstances a new toy that had been left on the bed with Woody likely would have simply received a welcome instead.



** If it was left lying in the middle of the street, odds are it would've been run over or smashed before Andy could reclaim it. He may have had the ability to contact the company that made it and request a new controller - I know that some toy manufacturers do give consumer that option if a part is lost.

[[WMG: Why did Buzz call Andy's room an "uncharted planet"?]]
He sees the other toys not requiring helmets to breathe. Assuming that he assumes that Andy's toys are actually from this "planet" (the room), why did he call it uncharted if it's obviously already populated? And, again, if he can see that the other toys don't require helmets, why would he think the air was toxic?
* Uncharted does not mean uninhabited. It means nobody official has come around and added it to the map. And the air on the planet being fine for natives doesn't mean it's fine for a non-native.

[[WMG: Falling with style]]
* Flying, falling fancily, whatever you'd like to call it, how was what Buzz did in the climax possible? He has many electronic parts built into him and is made entirely out of plastic - the moves and glides he performs don't seem very doable for such a heavy toy.
** This is one of the weirdest parts of the film because it completely contradicts the fact that Buzz truly is a toy incapable of flight, and was only added in because there was no other way for the duo to get back to Andy (and it also made a charming finale to the film). Similar to the nonsensical "Remy can make Linguini move by pulling his hair" thing and a few thousand balloons being able to lift an entire house, it's not explainable - it's just movie magic.
** OP here: I understand that, and normally, I'd be perfectly fine with it...but it's the fact that the movie had already established Buzz's incapability to actually fly that kind of irks me, since it was part of what made him realize he wasn't really a space ranger...Then they completely turn it over just for the sake of convenience at the climax. The other examples you listed were at least established earlier on, and their respective films didn't have anything that specifically contradicted them.
* I see this as Buzz being able to fly in that scene because it's a "heroic power" that can only be done when he's doing something heroic. The first "falling with style" was just him showing off. The second attempt at flying was him trying desperately to deny the truth that he's just a toy. It wasn't until the third time that he was trying to fly for a heroic reason (saving Woody and himself from certain doom), and thus was successful at doing so. It's also possible that it's an EleventhHourSuperpower.
* Personally, I think Buzz's wings just happened to have been unintentionally designed to provide a bit of aero lift. At the velocity they were falling, it's highly likely Buzz's wings were able to lift them back up, and into a slow glide.

[[WMG: Is this movie just a rip-off and nobody noticed?]]
OK. so I've never seen ''Film/TheChristmasToy'', and I probably never will. But I came across that movie's page completely by accident and couldn't help but notice that not only is its plot ridiculously similar to the first ''Toy Story'' flick, it came out a whopping ''nine years'' before ''TS''. So, what gives? Did ''Creator/{{Pixar}}'' steal the plot and nobody managed to notice?
* Unknowingly repeating something that's been done before isn't uncommon. For example, the video game Murdered: Soul Suspect has a very similar premise to Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (a detective is killed and has to solve his own murder). But the creators of Murdered didn't even know that Ghost Trick existed until after they were asked about it in an interview.
** Plus, "what if my toys come to life when I'm not around?" is a pretty common childhood fantasy. It's not impossible that two different teams of creators might come up with two separate but similar takes on the same idea independently.

[[WMG: Why do they go inside?]]
* Why would Woody and Buzz want to risk being seen by going inside Pizza Planet to find Andy? Why not just go find his mom's car in the parking lot? Even if they couldn't get inside the car on their own, they could easily just wait nearby for Andy to leave the restaurant and make like they'd just fallen out onto the ground, which would be a lot less conspicuous than his two toys suddenly showing up inside his baby sister's stroller.
** IIRC, the main reason they go inside is because Buzz sees the spaceship on the top of the restaurant and assumes that it's a spaceport, so Woody has to follow him in order to get him back.
** No, I'm pretty sure Woody only tricked Buzz using the rocket atop the Pizza Planet truck as a means of getting him to follow him inside it, and that Buzz got distracted by the rocket-shaped claw game once they were ''inside'' the restaurant, but they both went in together, by sneaking themselves in using a couple of carry-out containers. Woody could just as easily have told Buzz that Andy's mom's van was their transport to another "spaceport".

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** * If it was left lying in the middle of the street, odds are it would've been run over or smashed before Andy could reclaim it. He may have had the ability to contact the company that made it and request a new controller - I know that some toy manufacturers do give consumer that option if a part is lost.

[[WMG: Why did Buzz call Andy's room an "uncharted planet"?]]
He sees the other toys not requiring helmets to breathe. Assuming that he assumes that Andy's toys are actually from this "planet" (the room), why did he call it uncharted if it's obviously already populated? And, again, if he can see that the other toys don't require helmets, why would he think the air was toxic?
* Uncharted does not mean uninhabited. It means nobody official has come around and added it to the map. And the air on the planet being fine for natives doesn't mean it's fine for a non-native.

[[WMG: Falling with style]]
* Flying, falling fancily, whatever you'd like to call it, how was what Buzz did in the climax possible? He has many electronic parts built into him and is made entirely out of plastic - the moves and glides he performs don't seem very doable for such a heavy toy.
** This is one of the weirdest parts of the film because it completely contradicts the fact that Buzz truly is a toy incapable of flight, and was only added in because there was no other way for the duo to get back to Andy (and it also made a charming finale to the film). Similar to the nonsensical "Remy can make Linguini move by pulling his hair" thing and a few thousand balloons being able to lift an entire house, it's not explainable - it's just movie magic.
** OP here: I understand that, and normally, I'd be perfectly fine with it...but it's the fact that the movie had already established Buzz's incapability to actually fly that kind of irks me, since it was part of what made him realize he wasn't really a space ranger...Then they completely turn it over just for the sake of convenience at the climax. The other examples you listed were at least established earlier on, and their respective films didn't have anything that specifically contradicted them.
* I see this as Buzz being able to fly in that scene because it's a "heroic power" that can only be done when he's doing something heroic. The first "falling with style" was just him showing off. The second attempt at flying was him trying desperately to deny the truth that he's just a toy. It wasn't until the third time that he was trying to fly for a heroic reason (saving Woody and himself from certain doom), and thus was successful at doing so. It's also possible that it's an EleventhHourSuperpower.
* Personally, I think Buzz's wings just happened to have been unintentionally designed to provide a bit of aero lift. At the velocity they were falling, it's highly likely Buzz's wings were able to lift them back up, and into a slow glide.

[[WMG: Is this movie just a rip-off and nobody noticed?]]
OK. so I've never seen ''Film/TheChristmasToy'', and I probably never will. But I came across that movie's page completely by accident and couldn't help but notice that not only is its plot ridiculously similar to the first ''Toy Story'' flick, it came out a whopping ''nine years'' before ''TS''. So, what gives? Did ''Creator/{{Pixar}}'' steal the plot and nobody managed to notice?
* Unknowingly repeating something that's been done before isn't uncommon. For example, the video game Murdered: Soul Suspect has a very similar premise to Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (a detective is killed and has to solve his own murder). But the creators of Murdered didn't even know that Ghost Trick existed until after they were asked about it in an interview.
** Plus, "what if my toys come to life when I'm not around?" is a pretty common childhood fantasy. It's not impossible that two different teams of creators might come up with two separate but similar takes on the same idea independently.

[[WMG: Why do they go inside?]]
* Why would Woody and Buzz want to risk being seen by going inside Pizza Planet to find Andy? Why not just go find his mom's car in the parking lot? Even if they couldn't get inside the car on their own, they could easily just wait nearby for Andy to leave the restaurant and make like they'd just fallen out onto the ground, which would be a lot less conspicuous than his two toys suddenly showing up inside his baby sister's stroller.
** IIRC, the main reason they go inside is because Buzz sees the spaceship on the top of the restaurant and assumes that it's a spaceport, so Woody has to follow him in order to get him back.
** No, I'm pretty sure Woody only tricked Buzz using the rocket atop the Pizza Planet truck as a means of getting him to follow him inside it, and that Buzz got distracted by the rocket-shaped claw game once they were ''inside'' the restaurant, but they both went in together, by sneaking themselves in using a couple of carry-out containers. Woody could just as easily have told Buzz that Andy's mom's van was their transport to another "spaceport".
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* Every single laser pointer I've ever seen has a warning sticker about not looking directly into the light. And laser pointers are marketed to adults who should (in theory) know better. Giving one to a small child and trusting them not to point it in someone's face is a recipe for disaster and lawsuits. Making the button trigger a sound effect and making the child imagine the laser would be more practical, safer, and less litigious.

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* Every single laser pointer I've ever seen has a warning sticker about not looking directly into the light. And laser pointers are marketed to adults who should (in theory) know better. Giving one to a small child and trusting them not to point it in someone's face is a recipe for disaster and lawsuits. Making the button trigger a sound effect and making the child imagine the laser would be more practical, safer, and less litigious.



[[WMG: This always confused me, but what exactly do the toys think Woody did to Buzz?]]
* When they see Woody with Buzz’s dismembered arm, they immediately jump to the conclusion that Woody really is guilty of murdering Buzz. Even the toys who were closest to Woody and genuinely believed his previous action toward Buzz was an accident are shocked. But there’s a problem with this. The last time the toys saw Buzz, Woody knocked him out the window. They didn’t even know Woody and Buzz were ever together since then. Yet none of them seemed to be questioning how Woody had Buzz’s arm with him, and the fact that he does suggests that they were together since Woody knocked Buzz out the window (unless the arm came from another Buzz Lightyear toy). Did they think Woody found Buzz and broke him into pieces or something? For this reason it would actually kind of make more sense for the toys to believe Sid did it (especially since Woody was at Sid's house, and in Sid's room no less).



[[WMG: How old is Andy supposed to be turning in this movie?]]
* I read somewhere that he was six years old in the first film. The film begins with him having a birthday party, but it is mentioned that his birthday is “not until next week.” Also, Mr. Potato Head says that Woody has “been Andy’s favorite since kindergarten.” That line seems to suggest that Andy is at the very least in the first grade. Also, the film takes place in the summer, so Andy presumably would not have gone back to school at this point. So is it Andy’s sixth birthday, or his seventh?
** I don't exactly remember where I got this information, but I remember him being eight. (Or seven, turning eight.) He strikes me as looking a tad too old-looking for a six-year-old.

[[WMG:Why does Andy put Woody in the toy box, while the secondary cast ''and even [[ThoseTwoGuys Snake and Robot]]'' get to stay out? It's not like he suddenly dropped from favorite to least favorite! And it can't be that being in the toy box is more of an honour than being on the shelf, since we know that Mr. Potato Head/Slinky/Rex/Hamm are in Andy's "third tier" right below Buzz (and eventually Jessie/Bullseye/Mrs. Potato Head/possibly the aliens join that tier).]]
* To keep the dust off him?
* Maybe they all got out of the toy box after Andy went to sleep so they could spread out comfortably. Woody was just too depressed to join them.
* Everything else already had a place. Woody's place was in bed with Andy, a place which was being occupied by Buzz so Andy put Woody in the place where everything else goes for the night.

[[WMG: Did Andy really not notice right away that Woody was not in the van?]]

* When they stopped at the gas station, Andy really should have noticed immediately that Woody was gone, especially since he had Woody right beside him. But after Buzz knocked Woody out of the car, Andy’s mom drove away as if neither of them noticed him missing. If he looked and saw that Woody wasn't there, all they would need to do was look around their car. Since Andy had him with him just a minute ago, they should figure he had to be somewhere around there.
** Obviously, he didn't notice, or else they would have stopped and looked.
** But how could he not have noticed? He had Woody right in the seat with him. I think it should have been obvious.
** Because he's a child with a limited attention span. The movie makes it obvious that he didn't notice. That it "should have been obvious" doesn't really matter.

[[WMG: If Sid likes mutilating dolls so much, why doesn’t he just buy his own dolls to mutilate instead of taking his sister’s from her? She obviously hates it when he does that.]]
* Does Sid strike you at all as caring about what his sister thinks? You're asking a sadistic little asshole 10-year-old to suddenly be logical and rational.

[[WMG: While Slinky is my fave character by far, his Slinky middle always bugs me. First off, his slinky is around 12 inches long in ''Toy Story'', but while he gets stretched out as a result of trying to help Woody and Buzz it stretches to at ''least'' 50ft. How/why is this possible? I don't think that RuleOfFunny or RuleOfCool apply here since seeing him get hurt was neither cool [[DudeNotFunny nor funny]] (unless you have a warped sense of humor).]]
* Well, a standard slinky can stretch up to 87 feet long, so it's not really movie magic. However, how Slinky, after getting stretched so far out, can still retain his shape in the scene after is still a mystery. And I agree, it wasn't funny.
** It wasn't supposed to be funny.
** It's not supposed to be funny. That was Slinky's heroic moment. The more peril he's in the more heroic he becomes. He was injured desperately trying to rescue his friends with no regard for himself, it just might be the most commendable thing any character does in the first movie. Note that, despite being in obvious pain with the other toys tending to him, his only comment is "I should have held on longer."
*** But it was a useless act. With Slinky getting stretched out, it [[BoringFailureHero accomplished nothing]] to move the plot, apart from perhaps adding suspense to the rocket scene. Why was it here? What purpose did watching him get hurt serve to move the story forward? Honestly, they could have done without it and the scene would still be the same.
*** The point was to get the other toys involved. Slinky was trying to reach Buzz, Woody and RC so they could be pulled back onto the truck but RC was losing power and Slinky couldn't get a strong enough hold. It's basically so the other toys don't come across as useless dicks. They turned on Woody when they thought he'd killed Buzz and threw him off the truck when they thought he'd don something similar to RC, this was them winning the audience back and re-establishing that Slinky was completely loyal to Woody. Plus it added to the drama.
* Has anyone else noticed how Slinky's midsection seems to retain a lot more strength in ''2'' than ''1''? To list off some features, he offered it to used to bungee cord off from a two-story house, to descend and stretch 10ft to get to a suitcase, and then stretched past 20 feet in the baggage handling area.

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[[WMG: * How old is Andy supposed to be turning in this movie?]]
* I read somewhere that he was six years old in the first film. The film begins with him having a birthday party, but it is mentioned that his birthday is “not until next week.” Also, Mr. Potato Head says that Woody has “been Andy’s favorite since kindergarten.” That line seems to suggest that Andy is at the very least in the first grade. Also, the film takes place in the summer, so Andy presumably would not have gone back to school at this point. So is it Andy’s sixth birthday, or his seventh?
** I don't exactly remember where I got this information, but I remember him being eight. (Or seven, turning eight.) He strikes me as looking a tad too old-looking for a six-year-old.

[[WMG:Why does Andy put Woody in the toy box, while the secondary cast ''and even [[ThoseTwoGuys Snake and Robot]]'' get to stay out? It's not like he suddenly dropped from favorite to least favorite! And it can't be that being in the toy box is more of an honour than being on the shelf, since we know that Mr. Potato Head/Slinky/Rex/Hamm are in Andy's "third tier" right below Buzz (and eventually Jessie/Bullseye/Mrs. Potato Head/possibly the aliens join that tier).]]
* To keep the dust off him?
* Maybe they all got out of the toy box after Andy went to sleep so they could spread out comfortably. Woody was just too depressed to join them.
* Everything else already had a place. Woody's place was in bed with Andy, a place which was being occupied by Buzz so Andy put Woody in the place where everything else goes for the night.

[[WMG: Did Andy really not notice right away that Woody was not in the van?]]

* When they stopped at the gas station, Andy really should have noticed immediately that Woody was gone, especially since he had Woody right beside him. But after Buzz knocked Woody out of the car, Andy’s mom drove away as if neither of them noticed him missing. If he looked and saw that Woody wasn't there, all they would need to do was look around their car. Since Andy had him with him just a minute ago, they should figure he had to be somewhere around there.
** Obviously, he didn't notice, or else they would have stopped and looked.
** But how could he not have noticed? He had Woody right in the seat with him. I think it should have been obvious.
** Because he's a child with a limited attention span. The movie makes it obvious that he didn't notice. That it "should have been obvious" doesn't really matter.

[[WMG: If Sid likes mutilating dolls so much, why doesn’t he just buy his own dolls to mutilate instead of taking his sister’s from her? She obviously hates it when he does that.]]
* Does Sid strike you at all as caring about what his sister thinks? You're asking a sadistic little asshole 10-year-old to suddenly be logical and rational.

[[WMG: While Slinky is my fave character by far, his Slinky middle always bugs me. First off, his slinky is around 12 inches long in ''Toy Story'', but while he gets stretched out as a result of trying to help Woody and Buzz it stretches to at ''least'' 50ft. How/why is this possible? I don't think that RuleOfFunny or RuleOfCool apply here since seeing him get hurt was neither cool [[DudeNotFunny nor funny]] (unless you have a warped sense of humor).]]
* Well, a standard slinky can stretch up to 87 feet long, so it's not really movie magic. However, how Slinky, after getting stretched so far out, can still retain his shape in the scene after is still a mystery. And I agree, it wasn't funny.
** It wasn't supposed to be funny.
** It's not supposed to be funny. That was Slinky's heroic moment. The more peril he's in the more heroic he becomes. He was injured desperately trying to rescue his friends with no regard for himself, it just might be the most commendable thing any character does in the first movie. Note that, despite being in obvious pain with the other toys tending to him, his only comment is "I should have held on longer."
*** But it was a useless act. With Slinky getting stretched out, it [[BoringFailureHero accomplished nothing]] to move the plot, apart from perhaps adding suspense to the rocket scene. Why was it here? What purpose did watching him get hurt serve to move the story forward? Honestly, they could have done without it and the scene would still be the same.
*** The point was to get the other toys involved. Slinky was trying to reach Buzz, Woody and RC so they could be pulled back onto the truck but RC was losing power and Slinky couldn't get a strong enough hold. It's basically so the other toys don't
come across as useless dicks. They turned on Woody when they thought he'd killed Buzz and threw him off the truck when they thought he'd don something similar to RC, this was them winning the audience back and re-establishing that Slinky was completely loyal to Woody. Plus it added to the drama.
* Has anyone else noticed how
Slinky's midsection seems to retain a lot more strength in ''2'' than ''1''? To list off some features, he offered it to used to bungee cord off from a two-story house, to descend and stretch 10ft to get to a suitcase, and then stretched past 20 feet in the baggage handling area.






* [[MyLittlePanzer Since when was safety ever a concern with toys]]?

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* [[MyLittlePanzer Since when was safety ever a concern with toys]]?toys?



** I think that in that instant, Buzz's wings were faster and more powerful than they would be normally, because Buzz was in control and not Andy. It's like how Woody can move all of his fingers when he's talking to the other toys, but to Andy, all he'll ever have is a thumb and four closed-up fingers. To Andy, Buzz's wings will only ever be [[StrongAsTheyNeedToBe a light pop and fwoosh, while when Buzz needs them to tear duct tape, they will.]] Besides, maybe the duct tape was old and dilapidated.

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** I think that in that instant, Buzz's wings were faster and more powerful than they would be normally, because Buzz was in control and not Andy. It's like how Woody can move all of his fingers when he's talking to the other toys, but to Andy, all he'll ever have is a thumb and four closed-up fingers. To Andy, Buzz's wings will only ever be [[StrongAsTheyNeedToBe a light pop and fwoosh, while when Buzz needs them to tear duct tape, they will.]] Besides, maybe the duct tape was old and dilapidated.



* My theory is that it depends on what exactly the batteries are powering. For example, Buzz Lightyear's batteries mostly power his electronics, like his lights and his sound chip. If Buzz didn't have batteries, he would still be able to walk and talk when no humans are around, but his laser and his "pre-programmed" talking wouldn't do anything. For a toy like RC, batteries are much more vital, because they power his source of locomotion. If RC has no batteries, he'd still be "alive," but he would be incapable of moving under his own power, since his "engine" wouldn't have power, like a car with no gasoline.

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* My theory is that it depends It might depend on what exactly the batteries are powering. For example, Buzz Lightyear's batteries mostly power his electronics, like his lights and his sound chip. If Buzz didn't have batteries, he would still be able to walk and talk when no humans are around, but his laser and his "pre-programmed" talking wouldn't do anything. For a toy like RC, batteries are much more vital, because they power his source of locomotion. If RC has no batteries, he'd still be "alive," but he would be incapable of moving under his own power, since his "engine" wouldn't have power, like a car with no gasoline.



* And speaking of One-Eye Bart, was anyone else bothered that his missing eye in the third was not the same as in the first? Yes, it makes perfect sense since he is a young kid, not a professional screenplay writer or director, but still it would have been nice. (And this may be my OCD speaking, but it would have made for some nice symmetry for One-Eyed Bart's missing eye to stay the same, One-Eyed Betty to be missing her left eye, and the aliens to each be missing a different eye each.)
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[[WMG: While Slinky is my fave character by far, his Slinky middle always bugs me. First off, his slinky is around 12 inches long in ''Toy Story'', but while he gets stretched out as a result of trying to help Woody and Buzz it stretches to at ''least'' 50ft. How/why is this possible? I don't think that RuleOfFunny or RuleOfCool apply here since seeing him get hurt was neither cool [[DudeNotFunny nor funny]] (unless you have a warped sense of humor).]]
* Well, a standard slinky can stretch up to 87 feet long, so it's not really movie magic. However, how Slinky, after getting stretched so far out, can still retain his shape in the scene after is still a mystery. And I agree, it wasn't funny.
** It wasn't supposed to be funny.
** It's not supposed to be funny. That was Slinky's heroic moment. The more peril he's in the more heroic he becomes. He was injured desperately trying to rescue his friends with no regard for himself, it just might be the most commendable thing any character does in the first movie. Note that, despite being in obvious pain with the other toys tending to him, his only comment is "I should have held on longer."
*** But it was a useless act. With Slinky getting stretched out, it [[BoringFailureHero accomplished nothing]] to move the plot, apart from perhaps adding suspense to the rocket scene. Why was it here? What purpose did watching him get hurt serve to move the story forward? Honestly, they could have done without it and the scene would still be the same.
*** The point was to get the other toys involved. Slinky was trying to reach Buzz, Woody and RC so they could be pulled back onto the truck but RC was losing power and Slinky couldn't get a strong enough hold. It's basically so the other toys don't come across as useless dicks. They turned on Woody when they thought he'd killed Buzz and threw him off the truck when they thought he'd don something similar to RC, this was them winning the audience back and re-establishing that Slinky was completely loyal to Woody. Plus it added to the drama.
* Has anyone else noticed how Slinky's midsection seems to retain a lot more strength in ''2'' than ''1''? To list off some features, he offered it to used to bungee cord off from a two-story house, to descend and stretch 10ft to get to a suitcase, and then stretched past 20 feet in the baggage handling area.
** That's probably more related to the length and strain put on his middle section differing greatly in the movies. In the first one he was completely stretched out for several minutes while being pulled in two directions (he was basically the only thing keeping RC moving for a while there). In the second one all his stretching is for brief periods with the other side free to recoil back to the stretching end. Just like how if you stretch a slinky for a few seconds it'll be fine but if you stretch it out and keep it like that it'll warp.
[[WMG: Buzz's wings pop out with enough force to easily tear through duct tape (it was how he got off the rocket in time). Isn't that kinda unsafe for little children to play with?]]
* Plus, why wouldn't he have just used the wings to escape from the rocket earlier?
** When Sid attached the rocket to Buzz he was all depressed about being a "stupid, insignificant toy" and therefore had accepted his fate of being blown up. By the time Woody had convinced him otherwise, Sid had woken up and taken him outside for the "launch" and couldn't escape without being noticed.
* [[MyLittlePanzer Since when was safety ever a concern with toys]]?
* Maybe someone decided to put that in as the "recalled Buzz Lightyears" SequelHook for the original second film.
** I think that in that instant, Buzz's wings were faster and more powerful than they would be normally, because Buzz was in control and not Andy. It's like how Woody can move all of his fingers when he's talking to the other toys, but to Andy, all he'll ever have is a thumb and four closed-up fingers. To Andy, Buzz's wings will only ever be [[StrongAsTheyNeedToBe a light pop and fwoosh, while when Buzz needs them to tear duct tape, they will.]] Besides, maybe the duct tape was old and dilapidated.
[[WMG: Battery powered toys]]
If all the toys can move on their own when their owners are not around, do the battery-powered toys like the remote controlled car and Buzz Lightyear, move regardless or not they have batteries inside them? Usually companies install batteries in toys to make them more mobile, but if toys like Woody and Lotso (a doll and a stuffed bear) can walk around fine without any electrical currents to keep them moving, why bother with them at all?
* My theory is that it depends on what exactly the batteries are powering. For example, Buzz Lightyear's batteries mostly power his electronics, like his lights and his sound chip. If Buzz didn't have batteries, he would still be able to walk and talk when no humans are around, but his laser and his "pre-programmed" talking wouldn't do anything. For a toy like RC, batteries are much more vital, because they power his source of locomotion. If RC has no batteries, he'd still be "alive," but he would be incapable of moving under his own power, since his "engine" wouldn't have power, like a car with no gasoline.
[[WMG:How come humans are so loud every time they are coming to where toys are. Everyone yells or talks to themselves and walks loudly. Maybe the toys have super hearing or some kind of 6th sense?]]
* Maybe it helps that humans (even the children) are huge giants compared to the toys. Even if a human is walking and talking normally, it probably sounds extremely loud in the toys' ears. You would probably hear Godzilla's steps even if he was just going about his business.
* I ascribe to the Epileptic Tree that toys can hear humans louder and at greater distances than humans can hear; likewise, what sounds like "talking" between toys would barely sound like a whisper to humans. It's the only way the {{masquerade}} could be maintained.
[[WMG:In first Toy Story, Woody and Sid's toys are able to save Buzz by [[BrokenMasquerade revealing to Sid that toys are alive]]. Woody more or less states that acting like toys when humans are around is only a rule and that the rule can be broken when it's important. So why is this strategy never employed in the sequels? It's certainly not for lack of equally life-threatening situations where it would have come in handy.]]
* I'd say it's because Sid is just a child. No one would believe him, and there's not much he'd be likely to do about it. Seems to me that most of the times in which the toys are alive around humans, there's a lot of them around, so keeping up the charade would be worth it, even though they ''could'' be seen, like during the yard sale rescue in ''Toy Story 2''. There are other parts in the series where they take risky action in order to do things, just none where they reveal themselves to people because there are no other ''children'' threatening them. There's even some where something just ''barely'' turns out okay without the humans being suspicious, like a few examples in ''Toy Story 3''. In the credits, Stretch puts a ''note'' in Bonnie's backpack for no other reason than to talk to Bonnie's toys, and what do you think would happen if Bonnie found the note? Or her parents? Plus, there's the fact that Woody wrote a note to Andy telling him to bring them to Bonnie, and if Andy's question to his mom had been any less vague than just "Mom, you really think I should donate these?" then she could've found out the toys somehow made it back to the house. She and Andy both thought that his mom accidentally threw them away, but Andy now thinks his mom got them back for him. If he'd thanked her, she'd tell him she didn't do it and then he'd be creeped out. Or, she could've seen the note and told him she didn't write it, resulting in similar consequences. In his mom's mind, all he was asking about were some other non-favorite toys in his room that he is thinking of donating somewhere, probably Sunnyside. So, it worked out like a GambitRoulette; Woody was risking a lot to write that note, but it still managed to work perfectly. So, uh... '''long story short''', they ''have'' done things that at least severely ''risk'' revealing themselves in ''Toy Story 2'' and ''3'', but they didn't directly demonstrate their sentience both because it was never necessary and because doing it to adults is ''too'' risky.
* My personal theory is that overriding the instinct of becoming lifeless when there's a human directly looking is a very hard thing to do and/or requires supertoy strength/willpower, so very few toys are able to do it at all. Woody being an old and loved toy would be able to and Sid's constructions being made of several toys may be able to sum all the willpower together. Think about CastFromHitPoints or Theatre/OnceInALifetime thing.
** In short, the toys are very well aware that humans will understandably get the holy bejeezus scared out of them if they saw what were supposed to be ''inanimate objects'' moving and talking. There's a reason why this sort of stuff is a staple of horror movies. Would ''you'' be chill about finding your beloved toy standing on your bed seemingly on its own accord? Smiling, waving and acting all, "Hi! How are you? It's so good to meet you again!"
[[WMG: Mr. Potato Head's eyebrows lack consistency. They are not shown to have any peg or hole to attach to, nor does there seem to be any piece to attach them to his eyes (like his nose and 'stache), yet they always separate from his eyes whenever he falls apart. While this could be a special trait only when alive (such as plastic being able to detach or magically spawn in order for a toy to blink or talk, such as Woody's teeth), it also happens during the "Death By Monkeys" bit in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', and during the Caterpillar playtime scene in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'' both of the Potato Heads' eyebrows are shown attached to their bodies without their eyes. (Yet during the original's opening, when Andy takes off "One-Eyed Bart's" eye, his eyebrow is attached to his eye.) Also, his expression seems to be inconsistent (in the previously mentioned monkey scene, his eyelid can be seen, whereas his eyes are usually completely open while not "alive").]]
* And speaking of One-Eye Bart, was anyone else bothered that his missing eye in the third was not the same as in the first? Yes, it makes perfect sense since he is a young kid, not a professional screenplay writer or director, but still it would have been nice. (And this may be my OCD speaking, but it would have made for some nice symmetry for One-Eyed Bart's missing eye to stay the same, One-Eyed Betty to be missing her left eye, and the aliens to each be missing a different eye each.)
[[WMG: When Woody explains his plan near the end of the first movie, he says: "we're gonna have to break a few rules." So the toys hold still in front of people because it's a rule? Who makes these rules? Is there an organization, a deity? Obviously there's no punishment for breaking the rules.]]
* I'd presume it's a universally accepted facet of toy society -- being animate in sight of humans is something that simply Is Not Done. A taboo.
* I think they know it would freak their owners out, which would normally have bad consequences - they'd be thrown out, exorcised, maybe destroyed.
** By that token, maybe it's the same type of thing as the wizard/{{Muggle|s}} relationship in ''Literature/HarryPotter'': toys had to pretend to be lifeless after a history of being persecuted and destroyed or whatnot. Regular people have been none the wiser for centuries now, and think that all the old stories about toys coming to life are nothing more than legends of old.
* See the WordOfGod link above. The toys becoming inanimate when humans are looking is an involuntary instinct. Obviously, a lot of social conditioning has been laid on top of it, like the way they always make sure to return to their prior position when someone walks in the room. And also, it seems like toys CAN resist this instinct, as seen at the end of the first film. But unless they make the effort, they'll go still automatically when a human shows up.
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** Because he's a child with a limited attention span. The movie makes it obvious that he didn't notice. That it "should have been obvious" doesn't really matter.


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* When they stopped at the gas station, Andy really should have noticed immediately that Woody was gone, especially since he had Woody right beside him. But after Buzz knocked Woody out of the car, Andy’s mom drove away as if neither of them noticed him missing. If he looked and saw that Woody wasn't there, all they would need to do was look around their car. Since Andy had him with him just a minute ago, they should figure he had to be somewhere around there.

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** Sid's behaviour is actually pretty similar to a lot of kids, the explosions are a touch worrying but again nothing that's too out of the ordinary. Though the big one likely would have got him in some trouble.



* Turns out that anything the kid considers a toy comes alive. We see this happen in the fourth movie. Not sure what the limits of it are, even some normal toys aren't alive, but it does seem to work that way.




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** Not only did Andy make a big deal out of Buss but he also knocked Woody onto the floor to place Buzz in his normal spot. That's going to leave Woody feeling awfully insecure, under normal circumstances a new toy that had been left on the bed with Woody likely would have simply received a welcome instead.
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[[WMG:Why does Andy put Woody in the toy box, while the secondary cast ''and even [[ThoseTwoGuys Snake and Robot]]'' get to stay out? It's not like he suddenly dropped from favorite to least favorite! And it can't be that being in the toy box is more of an honour than being on the shelf, since we know that Mr. Potato Head/Slinky/Rex/Hamm are in Andy's "third tier" right below Buzz (and eventually Jessie/Bullseye/Mrs. Potato Head/possibly the aliens join that tier).]]
* To keep the dust off him?
* Maybe they all got out of the toy box after Andy went to sleep so they could spread out comfortably. Woody was just too depressed to join them.
* Everything else already had a place. Woody's place was in bed with Andy, a place which was being occupied by Buzz so Andy put Woody in the place where everything else goes for the night.
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** I don't exactly remember where I got this information, but I remember him being eight. (Or seven, turning eight.) He strikes me as looking a tad too old-looking for a six-year-old.
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** Plus the exact words were "Made in Taiwan". "Made" as in manufactured and mass produced for commercial sale. That, combined with the commercial and Woody constantly telling him he's a toy convinced him of the truth.
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* I read somewhere that he was six years old in the first film. The film begins with him having a birthday party, but it is mentioned that his birthday is “not until next week.” Also, Mr. Potato Head says that Woody has “been Andy’s favorite since kindergarten.” That line seems to suggest that Andy is at the very least in the first grade. So is it Andy’s sixth birthday, or his seventh?

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* I read somewhere that he was six years old in the first film. The film begins with him having a birthday party, but it is mentioned that his birthday is “not until next week.” Also, Mr. Potato Head says that Woody has “been Andy’s favorite since kindergarten.” That line seems to suggest that Andy is at the very least in the first grade. Also, the film takes place in the summer, so Andy presumably would not have gone back to school at this point. So is it Andy’s sixth birthday, or his seventh?
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[[WMG: How old is Andy supposed to be turning in this movie?]]
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* Seemed to me like he was kinda, "Aw, that's terrible, but we can't do anything to stop it." Honestly, Sid likely does this every day, so Woody and the other toys might've been desensitized to it by now. But yeah, he probably was thinking that about Buzz.

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* Seemed to me like he He was kinda, "Aw, that's terrible, but we can't do anything to stop it." Honestly, Sid likely does this every day, so Woody and the other toys might've been desensitized to it by now. But yeah, he probably was thinking that about Buzz.



[[WMG: This wouldn't bug me if the other sequels didn't have 'em but there isn't one Star Wars reference at all, not even to the original. after watching the second with a scene parodying the "Luke I am Your Father" scene and the third with that scene parodying The Emperor's Death, it's really hard to watch the movie again and find no reference to A New Hope.]]

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* This made me curious; the toys are minding their business when Woody yells at them from Sid's house. They don't wanna help Woody because he knocked Buzz out the window due to jealousy. Woody tries to get Buzz to come to the window to prove he's fine, but Buzz is too depressed to do it, and instead throws his detached arm at him. Woody, like an idiot, tries to use the arm to fool the toys into helping him escape, but the plan fails and everyone is disgusted by him. Everything is fine and dandy here, but one thing sticks out: Potato Head calls Woody a "Murderer". But think; Woody is at Sid's house. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the toys to simply think Woody was using '''another''' Buzz's arm while their Buzz was still out and about? Why would they think that it's '''their''' Buzz? And on top of that, even if it was, why would they think '''Woody''' killed Buzz? Why couldn't Sid do that?

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* I think it depends, but that it would lean towards head. Hannah's headless toys appear to have their own personality, and the Doll heads in Sid's room don't talk. I think it also depends on the intention of the toy. Since your not supposed to remove Woody's or Buzz's arm they can't be used independently. Mr. Potatohead appeared to feel the attack to the tortia. The rule is probably whatever the owner thinks.

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* I think it depends, but that it would lean towards head. Hannah's headless toys appear to have their own personality, and the Doll heads in Sid's room don't talk. I think it also depends on the intention of the toy. Since your you're not supposed to remove Woody's or Buzz's arm they can't be used independently. Mr. Potatohead Potato Head appeared to feel the attack to the tortia.tortilla. The rule is probably whatever the owner thinks.



* I'm not sure about ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'', but the {{troper}} above is wrong about it being in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2''. I just watched the movie, and the burn mark doesn't appear anywhere, before or after the repair scene.

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* I'm not sure about ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'', but the {{troper}} above is wrong about it being in ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2''. I just watched the movie, and In ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'', the burn mark doesn't appear anywhere, before or after the repair scene.



** You must be mistaken; if it was gone during the Christmas party we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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* The storyline that Buzz thought he was following, that of having secret plans to a superweapon the evil emperor is building with the power to destroy an entire planet, is ''identical'' to R2-D2's mission in A New Hope.

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* This made me curious; the toys are minding their business when Woody yells at them from Sid's house. They don't wanna help Woody because he knocked Buzz out the window due to jealousy. Woody tries to get Buzz to come to the window to prove he's fine, but Buzz is too depressed to do it, and instead throws his detached arm at him. Woody, like an idiot, tries to use the arm to fool the toys into helping him escape, but the plan fails and everyone is disgusted by him. Everything is fine and dandy here, but one thing sticks out: Potato Head calls Woody a "Murderer". But think; Woody is at Sid's house. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the toys to simply think Woody was using '''another''' Buzz's arm while their Buzz was still out and about? Why would they think that it's '''their''' Buzz? And on top of that, even if it was, why would they think '''Woody''' killed Buzz? Why couldn't Sid do that? --DingoWalley

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* This made me curious; the toys are minding their business when Woody yells at them from Sid's house. They don't wanna help Woody because he knocked Buzz out the window due to jealousy. Woody tries to get Buzz to come to the window to prove he's fine, but Buzz is too depressed to do it, and instead throws his detached arm at him. Woody, like an idiot, tries to use the arm to fool the toys into helping him escape, but the plan fails and everyone is disgusted by him. Everything is fine and dandy here, but one thing sticks out: Potato Head calls Woody a "Murderer". But think; Woody is at Sid's house. Wouldn't it have made more sense for the toys to simply think Woody was using '''another''' Buzz's arm while their Buzz was still out and about? Why would they think that it's '''their''' Buzz? And on top of that, even if it was, why would they think '''Woody''' killed Buzz? Why couldn't Sid do that? --DingoWalley



** And they were likely sickened that Woody would stoop so low to play with a toy's dismembered limb, regardless of whether or not they thought the arm belonged to their Buzz. (And they likely did, because as far as they knew, Sid never had a Buzz toy of his own, otherwise he would've blown that Buzz up a long time ago. They saw a Buzz arm and concluded it was their Buzz.) And let's assume they thought it was SID that killed Buzz and dismembered him. Judging from Woody's reaction, it's clear that Woody isn't at all affected that his fellow toy from Andy's room was torn apart as one would think and is happy to fake out the other toys with Buzz's arm. To them, he's profiting off of Buzz's demise to get his own freedom. That's why Mr. Potatoehead and Hamm did not believe him.

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** And they were likely sickened that Woody would stoop so low to play with a toy's dismembered limb, regardless of whether or not they thought the arm belonged to their Buzz. (And they likely did, because as far as they knew, Sid never had a Buzz toy of his own, otherwise he would've blown that Buzz up a long time ago. They saw a Buzz arm and concluded it was their Buzz.) And let's assume they thought it was SID that killed Buzz and dismembered him. Judging from Woody's reaction, it's clear that Woody isn't at all affected that his fellow toy from Andy's room was torn apart as one would think and is happy to fake out the other toys with Buzz's arm. To them, he's profiting off of Buzz's demise to get his own freedom. That's why Mr. Potatoehead Potato Head and Hamm did not believe him.



* Dude/Dudette, if I walked into my room as a child and saw my toys moving around on my bed like miniature people, I would scream bloody murder and run out of the house. My first thought would be, "OH MY GOD! THEY'RE ALLIIIIIVE!!!" like Sid, coupled with the fear of what if they killed me. [[Film/ChildsPlay I mean, Hollywood loves to make movies about killer]] [[Film/PinocchiosRevenge toys coming to life to off their owners, true?]] Maybe this is why the toys keep the info that they're alive a secret. They're GenreSavvy enough to know that humans will explode into full-blown panic first.

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* Dude/Dudette, if I walked into my room as a child and saw my toys moving around on my bed like miniature people, I would scream bloody murder and run out of the house. My first thought would be, "OH MY GOD! THEY'RE ALLIIIIIVE!!!" like Sid, coupled with the fear of what if they killed me. [[Film/ChildsPlay I mean, Hollywood loves to make movies about killer]] [[Film/PinocchiosRevenge toys coming to life to off their owners, true?]] Maybe this is why the toys keep the info that they're alive a secret. They're GenreSavvy enough to They know that humans will explode into full-blown panic first.



** I don’t know. When I was a kid I always felt my toys were alive (I knew they didn’t move it was just a kid’s thing) but, in real life, what kid does not think the same? Children love their toys and in many cases they treat them like living things. So, may be, for most of the toys they somehow feel like their children already treat them like alive. Even more, in some parts of the movie we can see toys living adventures in scenes as part of Andy’s imagination, may be during those periods the movie is not just showing how Andy sees the games but also how the toys feel when Andy plays with them (moving, running, fighting, etc.) eliminating the need to show that their alive because they are treated and loved as such already, and they perhaps know that if show they alive when the kid grows to teen can be dangerous for them. If the kid is a bad owner, like Sid, well they do show it to scar him in self-defense (it was a exceptional case?). By-the-way, in Latin America I heard a lot of stories about creepy living toys and dolls that attack bad children so…

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** I don’t know. When I was a kid I always felt my toys were alive (I knew they didn’t move it was just a kid’s thing) but, in real life, what kid does not think the same? Children love their toys and in many cases they treat them like living things. So, may be, for most of the toys they somehow feel like their children already treat them like alive. Even more, in some parts of the movie we can see toys living adventures in scenes as part of Andy’s imagination, may be during those periods the movie is not just showing how Andy sees the games but also how the toys feel when Andy plays with them (moving, running, fighting, etc.) eliminating the need to show that their alive because they are treated and loved as such already, and they perhaps know that if show they alive when the kid grows to teen can be dangerous for them. If the kid is a bad owner, like Sid, well they do show it to scar him in self-defense (it was a an exceptional case?). By-the-way, in Latin America I heard a lot of stories about creepy living toys and dolls that attack bad children so…



As far as anyone could've seen Al's bag came open during the transport processs, which given how adamant he was on threatening the clerk about keeping the bag safe it makes sense that he would blame it on careless attendants and employees. He would probably have a pretty good case, as long as he could prove the toys were in the bag before being shipped.

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As far as anyone could've seen Al's bag came open during the transport processs, process, which given how adamant he was on threatening the clerk about keeping the bag safe it makes sense that he would blame it on careless attendants and employees. He would probably have a pretty good case, as long as he could prove the toys were in the bag before being shipped.



** Potatohead's pretty much shown as a bitter, pessimistic jerk who automatically thinks the worst of everyone, for the most part. Even in the later movies where he mellows he's still pretty much the "grumpy sourpuss dad" character.

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** Potatohead's Potato Head's pretty much shown as a bitter, pessimistic jerk who automatically thinks the worst of everyone, for the most part. Even in the later movies where he mellows he's still pretty much the "grumpy sourpuss dad" character.



* How do those Green Army men with Baby Monitor keep so well hidden in the Christmas Tree? In the beginning, where they took the Baby Monitor to the Bush, it made sense, because it was out of the way of the main party, it looked thick and healthy, and no one was really going to pay close attention to the Bush. But the Christmas Tree? It was right where everyone was! Christmas trees are never thick enough that they can disguise stuff (Unless those things are behind the Tree, which the Baby Monitor wasn't), and if they're anything like my family, we like to take a good couple of pictures in front of the Tree, which would probably increase the chances of Andy's Mom seeing the Baby Monitor/Green Army men. Also, I highly doubt a Christmas Tree branch can support a giant Baby monitor like that. Surely they could have hidden in something else? - DingoWalley

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* How do those Green Army men with Baby Monitor keep so well hidden in the Christmas Tree? In the beginning, where they took the Baby Monitor to the Bush, it made sense, because it was out of the way of the main party, it looked thick and healthy, and no one was really going to pay close attention to the Bush. But the Christmas Tree? It was right where everyone was! Christmas trees are never thick enough that they can disguise stuff (Unless those things are behind the Tree, which the Baby Monitor wasn't), and if they're anything like my family, we like to take a good couple of pictures in front of the Tree, which would probably increase the chances of Andy's Mom seeing the Baby Monitor/Green Army men. Also, I highly doubt a Christmas Tree branch can support a giant Baby monitor like that. Surely they could have hidden in something else? - DingoWalley



** I don't wish to be rude, but did you by some chance miss the part immediately before that where he watched the rather lengthy toy commercial that repeatedly demonstrated and reiterated that he was just a toy? He probably would have dismissed it in such a fashion (or just not thought about it) had he not seen that first, but the "Made In Taiwan" stamp was just confirming the blindingly obvious for him at that point. In any case, he might be an astronaut, but he still comes from Earth, so has presumably heard about the country of Taiwan (and it being a base for cheap manufacturing of consumer products, including toys).

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** I don't wish to be rude, but did you by some chance miss the The part immediately before that was where he watched the rather lengthy toy commercial that repeatedly demonstrated and reiterated that he was just a toy? He probably would have dismissed it in such a fashion (or just not thought about it) had he not seen that first, but the "Made In Taiwan" stamp was just confirming the blindingly obvious for him at that point. In any case, he might be an astronaut, but he still comes from Earth, so has presumably heard about the country of Taiwan (and it being a base for cheap manufacturing of consumer products, including toys).



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* c'mon! what the hell did the whole Toys Come Alive Orginated? (Further Back to the days Of Ancient Rome, Stone age etc.)

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* If there are Toys in the Toy Story verse based on The Magic Roundabout, what are their traits and roles?

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* c'mon! what the hell How did the whole Toys Come Alive Orginated? (Further Back to the days Of Ancient Rome, Stone age etc.)

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** Unlike the Weeping Angels though, the toys are not forced to stay frozen whenever they're being watched, right? Or else surely Woody wouldn't have been able to remind Sid to [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome "play nice."]]

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** Unlike the Weeping Angels though, the toys are not forced to stay frozen whenever they're being watched, right? Or else surely Woody wouldn't have been able to remind Sid to [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome "play nice."]]

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*c'mon! what the hell did the whole Toys Come Alive Orginated? (Further Back to the days Of Ancient Rome, Stone age etc.)

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As far as anyone could've seen Al's bag came open during the transport process, which given how adamant he was on threatening the clerk about keeping the bag safe it makes sense that he would blame it on careless attendants and employees. He would probably have a pretty good case, as long as he could prove the toys were in the bag before being shipped.

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As far as anyone could've seen Al's bag came open during the transport process, processs, which given how adamant he was on threatening the clerk about keeping the bag safe it makes sense that he would blame it on careless attendants and employees. He would probably have a pretty good case, as long as he could prove the toys were in the bag before being shipped.



[[WMG: Creating the the most hated Pixar baddie ever.]]
* Why would Pixar made Lotso from Toy Story 3 the most truly Vile and Villainous Villain ever, sure he left the gang die in the furnace [[MoralEventHorizon without remorse]] and gets punished by being strapped in the truck at the end and since the previous 2 movies had Antagonists as Anti-Villains with redeemable qualities,why?

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* Why would Pixar made Lotso from Toy Story 3 the most truly Vile and Villainous Villain ever,
sure he left the gang die in the furnace [[MoralEventHorizon without remorse]] and gets punished by being strapped in the truck at the end and since the previous 2 movies had Antagonists as Anti-Villains with redeemable qualities,why?

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* Why would Pixar made Lotso from Toy Story 3 the most truly Vile and Villainous Villain ever,
ever, sure he left the gang die in the furnace [[MoralEventHorizon without remorse]] and gets punished by being strapped in the truck at the end and since the previous 2 movies had Antagonists as Anti-Villains with redeemable qualities,why?

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sure he left the gang die in the furnace [[MoralEventHorizon without remorse]] and gets punished by being strapped in the truck at the end and since the previous 2 movies had Antagonists as Anti-Villains with redeemable qualities,why?
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*** According to one of the unpurchased Buzz Lightyear dolls in the second movie, Star Command has ordered all the space rangers to wait in "hyper-sleep" (read: the Buzz Lightyear dolls sitting in their boxes without revealing their sentience). With that in mind, it's possible that Buzz Lightyear understands the "rule" of not revealing his sentience to humans, but simply thinks that the rule comes from Star Command.
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** Why does Buzz hide his living being condition to Andy and other characters in the first Toy Story if he isn't aware of the fact that he is a toy?

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** Why does Buzz hide his living being condition to from Andy and other characters in the first Toy Story if he isn't aware of the fact that he is a toy?

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