History Headscratchers / TheWizardOfOz

8th Aug '17 12:34:50 PM WildeOscar
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* The book was published in 1900, Return to Oz taking place a year earlier. If that is true, Miss Gulch riding a bicycle is easily justified.

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* The book was published in 1900, Return to Oz taking place a year earlier. If that is true, Miss Gulch riding a bicycle is easily justified.justified.

* What are a "dingaderry" and a " kizzard"? The Scarecrow uses both these words while singing and nobody even asks him what they mean.
31st Jul '17 11:01:01 AM Puterboy1
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* Take a look at those roads we see in the film! A bicycle could go where a car couldn't go, allows her to avoid paying for gasoline (her clothing suggests she is quite thrifty, perhaps even miserly), and provides her exercise at the same time. Dorothy also mentions that Ms. Gulch's home is one that Dorothy passes by every day on the way to school, so it can't be that far away. Even today, it's not uncommon for wealthy people in small rural communities to ride a bicycle (or a horse) when visiting nearby areas with poor road systems.

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* Take a look at those roads we see in the film! A bicycle could go where a car couldn't go, allows her to avoid paying for gasoline (her clothing suggests she is quite thrifty, perhaps even miserly), and provides her exercise at the same time. Dorothy also mentions that Ms. Gulch's home is one that Dorothy passes by every day on the way to school, so it can't be that far away. Even today, it's not uncommon for wealthy people in small rural communities to ride a bicycle (or a horse) when visiting nearby areas with poor road systems.systems.
* The book was published in 1900, Return to Oz taking place a year earlier. If that is true, Miss Gulch riding a bicycle is easily justified.
31st Jul '17 10:52:15 AM Puterboy1
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*** The Desert (Most likely after East Munchkinland Town, considering it surrounds the entirety of Oz, at least in the books).

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*** The Deadly Desert (Most likely after East Munchkinland Town, considering it surrounds the entirety of Oz, at least in the books).




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*** Kansas: Confirmed if you play ''LEGODimensions''.
25th Jul '17 5:43:01 PM name_already_chosen
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This question is from assuming the movie takes place in the same time period as it was made (late 1930s). If Ms. Gulch owns half the county, that would make her extremely wealthy so why would she choose to ride a bicycle everywhere instead of drive around or be chauffeured in a car? She doesn't appear to be too old to drive a car and even if she was, she could easily be chauffeured around. It can't be because she may have not wanted to get it dirty because wealthy people at the time usually lived in or near a city and if they had to visit a farm for any reason, they would still get there by car, one reason to flaunt their wealth. So why would a wealthy middle-aged woman like Ms. Gulch go around on a bicycle rather than an automobile?

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This question is from assuming the movie takes place in the same time period as it was made (late 1930s). If Ms. Gulch owns half the county, that would make her extremely wealthy so why would she choose to ride a bicycle everywhere instead of drive around or be chauffeured in a car? She doesn't appear to be too old to drive a car and even if she was, she could easily be chauffeured around. It can't be because she may have not wanted to get it dirty because wealthy people at the time usually lived in or near a city and if they had to visit a farm for any reason, they would still get there by car, one reason to flaunt their wealth. So why would a wealthy middle-aged woman like Ms. Gulch go around on a bicycle rather than an automobile?automobile?
* Take a look at those roads we see in the film! A bicycle could go where a car couldn't go, allows her to avoid paying for gasoline (her clothing suggests she is quite thrifty, perhaps even miserly), and provides her exercise at the same time. Dorothy also mentions that Ms. Gulch's home is one that Dorothy passes by every day on the way to school, so it can't be that far away. Even today, it's not uncommon for wealthy people in small rural communities to ride a bicycle (or a horse) when visiting nearby areas with poor road systems.
25th Jul '17 5:37:46 PM name_already_chosen
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** The Wicked Witch in the film is something of a [[PlayingWithFire Fire Elementalist]]: she first appears in a roiling ball of flame, then later she attacks them with a fireball from atop a house, and in the end she is killed by fire's elemental nemesis, water, in much the same way that fire is doused by water, leaving behind only steam and smoke. So it makes sense that she would first attack whoever is most vulnerable to fire.



*** And she isn't a human, she's a [[WitchSpecies witch]], which is another species according to both the film and the books.




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** She would only have been running away again if she had known it from the start. Remember, the Dorothy who first entered Oz was a little girl who constantly needed help, and she would have remained that way if she had teleported back home immediately after accidentally killing a witch. However, by the time she realizes she can click her heels, she has rescued the Scarecrow from the pole and helped him realize his own wisdom, rescued the Tin Woodsman from his [[AndIMustScream rusted stasis]], helped the Cowardly Lion discover his courage, freed the Winkies from the tyranny of the Wicked Witch, and helped the Wizard acknowledge his humbuggery and motivated him to return to his own home -- and it is this stronger, wiser, most heroic Dorothy -- a Dorothy who knows better than to run away from her troubles now -- who is able to use the magic of the slippers to return to home.
25th Jul '17 5:17:39 PM name_already_chosen
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** For the film, I had always assumed the reason was that only someone as innocent as Dorothy could wear the slippers without harm and without making them vulnerable to the Wicked Witch. (I know the reasons in the books involving the Silver Slippers is different.) Years later in college, when a group of us were discussing TheLordOfTheRings, I mentioned that Frodo's ability to resist corruption by the One Ring had always reminded me of the movie Dorothy's ability to resist corruption by the Ruby Slippers.




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** Before, Ms. Gulch was going to take away a "mad dog" that had bitten her; now, she would have to take away the faithful animal companion of a local little girl who was almost killed by a tornado and had the entire town worried (notice that no one is surprised that Mr. Marvel had heard about her injury?), a much harder sell on the townspeople regardless of her level of wealth.


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*** Notice that even Glinda the Good seems a little surprised that anything could kill the witch. Also, despite seeing her body clearly crushed by the house, the munchkins still insist on having a coroner doublecheck that she is "really most sincerely dead" after all.
25th Jul '17 5:00:56 PM name_already_chosen
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** He reassures them that she is "really most sincerely dead", suggesting that his primary goal was to ensure that she was not faking or feigning her death.
14th Jun '17 10:49:20 PM FatPumpkinRex
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** Well, 1) This is a movie only issue, as in the original book Glinda did know about the shoes and is the one to tell Dorothy. It was another witch who Dorothy initially meets at the start who doesn't know what powers the shoes have. Anyway, in context of the film, it could be magical logic. Dorothy has to believe in herself and in the power of the magic. When she first arrived, she was still struggling with the fact she wasn't at home anymore, let alone with the fact that witches and magic and a different dimension were real. If Glinda had told Dorothy, it may very well have been useless as Dorothy would simply be performing the action (click heels, think about home) as opposed to truly feeling it with her heart as she more than likely does after her entire ordeal in Oz. As with most fantasy stories, magic is more than saying a few words. In essence, Dorothy had to become more open to the magical world she was in before she could use the magic.

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** Well, 1) This is a movie only issue, as in the original book Glinda did know about the shoes and is the one to tell Dorothy. It was another witch who Dorothy initially meets at the start who doesn't know what powers the shoes have. Anyway, in context of the film, it could be magical logic. Dorothy has to believe in herself and in the power of the magic. When she first arrived, she was still struggling with the fact she wasn't at home anymore, let alone with the fact that witches and magic and a different dimension were real. If Glinda had told Dorothy, it may very well have been useless as Dorothy would simply be performing the action (click heels, think about home) as opposed to truly feeling it with her heart as she more than likely does after her entire ordeal in Oz. As with most fantasy stories, magic is more than saying a few words. In essence, Dorothy had to become more open to the magical world she was in before she could use the magic.magic.

This question is from assuming the movie takes place in the same time period as it was made (late 1930s). If Ms. Gulch owns half the county, that would make her extremely wealthy so why would she choose to ride a bicycle everywhere instead of drive around or be chauffeured in a car? She doesn't appear to be too old to drive a car and even if she was, she could easily be chauffeured around. It can't be because she may have not wanted to get it dirty because wealthy people at the time usually lived in or near a city and if they had to visit a farm for any reason, they would still get there by car, one reason to flaunt their wealth. So why would a wealthy middle-aged woman like Ms. Gulch go around on a bicycle rather than an automobile?
7th Jun '17 6:18:45 AM Jonnybeng
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** Because the hourglass was a reason for the Witch to delay until she could squash all the annoying bugs at once. Give Dorothy some hope, the wring it from her by killing her friends in front of her, since she didn't turn it until Totot ran off to fetch them.

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** Because the hourglass was a reason for the Witch to delay until she could squash all the annoying bugs at once. Give Dorothy some hope, the wring it from her by killing her friends in front of her, since she didn't turn it until Totot Toto ran off to fetch them.
18th May '17 9:00:34 PM GammaCavy
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** The other branches are from other cities in the middle of nowhere meeting at this crossroads, all except the one that heads towards the Emerald City.
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