History Headscratchers / TheWizardOfOz

7th Mar '17 9:06:20 AM marbehraglaim
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*** Indeed, Glinda's logic more or less implies that bad witches can be either ugly or beautiful, but that good witches are always beautiful (or at any rate, not ugly). If she had meant that all bad witches are ugly and that all good witches are beautiful, she wouldn't have needed to ask Dorothy whether she was a good or bad witch.
2nd Feb '17 1:28:43 PM Overfiend
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*** Munchkinland's Red Light District, where some of the most depraved carnal acts that could ever (or only be) executed by beings under three feet tall are commonplace and for sale. WMG, or does this belong under "Fridge Horror"?
2nd Feb '17 12:13:39 PM Overfiend
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** Because it's MAGIC. That's why (as noted above) Dorothy's flipping it over wouldn't have worked.


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*** Perhaps "ugly" is meant to be metaphorical here? Not just in the physically unnatractive sense, but "ugly" personality traits like meaness, greed, and other negative qualities that go hand in hand with being "evil". Glinda was questioning Dorothy's character.
4th Nov '16 6:54:22 PM 4power4
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** Glinda: '''[[MeaninglessMeaningfulWords "Because she had to find out for herself"]]'''

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** Glinda: '''[[MeaninglessMeaningfulWords "Because she had to find out for herself"]]'''herself"]]'''
** Well, 1) This is a movie only issue, as in the original book Glinda did know about the shoes and is the one to tell Dorothy. It was another witch who Dorothy initially meets at the start who doesn't know what powers the shoes have. Anyway, in context of the film, it could be magical logic. Dorothy has to believe in herself and in the power of the magic. When she first arrived, she was still struggling with the fact she wasn't at home anymore, let alone with the fact that witches and magic and a different dimension were real. If Glinda had told Dorothy, it may very well have been useless as Dorothy would simply be performing the action (click heels, think about home) as opposed to truly feeling it with her heart as she more than likely does after her entire ordeal in Oz. As with most fantasy stories, magic is more than saying a few words. In essence, Dorothy had to become more open to the magical world she was in before she could use the magic.
26th Oct '16 8:36:43 AM 134340Goat
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* This may be the biggest question ever for this page, but if the Good Witch knew that the red shoes Dorothy was wearing had the ability to teleport her home, '''[[SuddenlyShouting WHY IN THE HOLY HELL COULDN'T SHE TELL HER SOONER, RATHER THAN AFTER DOROTHY BELIEVED THAT SHE COULDN'T GO HOME DUE TO THE WIZARD FLYING AWAY IN HIS HOT AIR BALLOON?!]]'''

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* This may be the biggest question ever for this page, but if the Good Witch knew that the red shoes Dorothy was wearing had the ability to teleport her home, '''[[SuddenlyShouting WHY IN THE HOLY HELL COULDN'T SHE TELL HER SOONER, RATHER THAN AFTER DOROTHY BELIEVED THAT SHE COULDN'T GO HOME DUE TO THE WIZARD FLYING AWAY IN HIS HOT AIR BALLOON?!]]'''BALLOON?!]]'''
** Glinda: '''[[MeaninglessMeaningfulWords "Because she had to find out for herself"]]'''
7th Sep '16 4:53:36 PM 4power4
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*** It wasn't in the original book, the pure water thing was in the Wicked book, and even then her own tears burned against her skin when she cried. In terms of the original book, as was stated, the witch is completely dried out, is more than likely very old and sustained on magic, and being bombarded with a rush of water/liquid just did her in and washed her away. Are we really thinking very hard about a story where monkeys can talk and fly?
7th Sep '16 4:08:33 AM The12thDoctor
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*** That doesn't fit with the original book at all, though. The water that melted her in the book was the lion's tears, collected by Dorothy. Tear water is not pure, but salted.

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*** That doesn't fit with the original book at all, though. The water that melted her in the book was the lion's tears, collected by Dorothy. Tear water is not pure, but salted.salted.

* This may be the biggest question ever for this page, but if the Good Witch knew that the red shoes Dorothy was wearing had the ability to teleport her home, '''[[SuddenlyShouting WHY IN THE HOLY HELL COULDN'T SHE TELL HER SOONER, RATHER THAN AFTER DOROTHY BELIEVED THAT SHE COULDN'T GO HOME DUE TO THE WIZARD FLYING AWAY IN HIS HOT AIR BALLOON?!]]'''
5th Aug '16 9:56:04 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* Speaking of which, what's the deal with that hourglass? At first it seems to be just a big hourglass, but when the Witch throws it from a height, it explodes.






** It's been suggested it's where the Good Witch Of The North lives as she flies off there after talking to Dorothy (although she flies in from the other direction). In the books, Glinda's world has a red theme.



** The Sapphire City (based on the color of the road and a guess, as far as I know it doesn't actually exist), Hell (red road, and there would be the convenient pun of Toto going to hell in a handbasket for bad behavior, East Munchkinland could have just been there for the spiral pattern, and trailed of shortly after leaving the town... square. Circle. whatever), or The Desert (Most likely after East Munchkinland Town, considering it surrounds the entirety of Oz, at least in the books).
** It's been suggested it's where the Good Witch Of The North lives as she flies off there after talking to Dorothy (although she flies in from the other direction). In the books, Glinda's world has a red theme.
** The Land of the Quadlings.

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** Possibly:
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The Sapphire City (based on the color of the road and a guess, as far as I know it doesn't actually exist), exist),
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Hell (red road, and there would be the convenient pun of Toto going to hell in a handbasket for bad behavior, East Munchkinland could have just been there for the spiral pattern, and trailed of shortly after leaving the town... square. Circle. whatever), or whatever)
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The Desert (Most likely after East Munchkinland Town, considering it surrounds the entirety of Oz, at least in the books).
** It's been suggested it's where the Good Witch Of The North lives as she flies off there after talking to Dorothy (although she flies in from the other direction). In the books, Glinda's world has a red theme.
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*** The Land of the Quadlings.Quadlings.





















* For what it's worth, in the (presumably) non-canon crossover with ''Tom and Jerry'', they take one of the other roads, and discover that although they are meant to merge back into the main road, they have fallen into disrepair and are thus extremely dangerous.



**** Would he remember it, though? And if other travelers chatted with him at length before as you suggest, how come no one untied him before Dorothy arrived?









** How can a Lion talk? How can a man made of straw live? How can a man be made of tin? It's a fantasy world and has fantasy rules. Oz has stranger things than a witch with no bodily fluids. However, other mediums have attempted to explain this. In Wicked, for example, the witch does have bodily fluids, but pure water is what can hurt or kill her. She can eat and drink and touch anything so long as it isn't pure water. So assuming that were the case, the witch would be fine.

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*** Ahem, AWizardDidIt. Literally. (Well, a witch.)
** How can a Lion talk? How can a man made of straw live? How can a man be made of tin? It's a fantasy world and has fantasy rules. Oz has stranger things than a witch with no bodily fluids. However, other mediums have attempted to explain this. In Wicked, for example, the witch does have bodily fluids, but pure water is what can hurt or kill her. She can eat and drink and touch anything so long as it isn't pure water. So assuming that were the case, the witch would be fine.fine.
*** That doesn't fit with the original book at all, though. The water that melted her in the book was the lion's tears, collected by Dorothy. Tear water is not pure, but salted.
28th Jun '16 8:03:20 PM 4power4
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** How does she still function if she doesn't have water?

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** How does she still function if she doesn't have water?water?
** How can a Lion talk? How can a man made of straw live? How can a man be made of tin? It's a fantasy world and has fantasy rules. Oz has stranger things than a witch with no bodily fluids. However, other mediums have attempted to explain this. In Wicked, for example, the witch does have bodily fluids, but pure water is what can hurt or kill her. She can eat and drink and touch anything so long as it isn't pure water. So assuming that were the case, the witch would be fine.
26th Jun '16 4:02:30 AM k410ren
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** Actually, the witch isn't made of water at all. The original book clearly states that she was so evil that her body had completely dried up many years ago.

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** Actually, the witch isn't made of water at all. The original book clearly states that she was so evil that her body had completely dried up many years ago.ago.
** How does she still function if she doesn't have water?
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