History Headscratchers / TheSalvationWar

16th Jun '16 5:53:55 AM Salmon
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*** Start buying it because you think wrong. The publisher had already read both the written novels -- not the essentially pre-first-draft versions on the Star Destroyer dot Net forums, but the cleaned-up, edited, nearly-ready-for-publication copy -- before signing on to publish them so they knew exactly what they were getting before they signed on the dotted line. Indeed, the controversial aspect was something they found appealing because nothing sells books like a good scandal. The fact is that plans to publish the Salvation War were a direct casualty of literary piracy. (And the unprintable epithet who stole and torrented them actually had the gall to write to Slade and tell him not only that he was the one who'd done so, but that he'd done it precisely to ensure they could never be published.)

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*** Start buying it because you think wrong. The publisher had already read both the written novels -- not the essentially pre-first-draft versions on the Star Destroyer dot Net forums, but the cleaned-up, edited, nearly-ready-for-publication copy -- before signing on to publish them so they knew exactly what they were getting before they signed on the dotted line. Indeed, the controversial aspect was something they found appealing because nothing sells books like a good scandal. The fact is that plans to publish the Salvation War were a direct casualty of literary piracy. (And the unprintable epithet who stole and torrented them actually had the gall to write to Slade and tell him not only that he was the one who'd done so, but that claimed he'd done it precisely to ensure they could never be published.)


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*** The issue is something called "First Rights". They're like virginity; once gone, they're gone forever. When a literary pirate steals a product and torrents it, he has stolen the first rights and essentially prevented publication. If the original author torrents something, then he has used (but still owns) his First Rights but can still sell the work for conventional publication although he'll get a lot less money for the deal. Note, posting is not publishing, torrenting is. It may not make much sense but that's the way it is. Literacy piracy is a very bad thing and having one's work pirated prior to publication really screws the author over.
4th Jun '16 8:38:40 PM chaotic-nipple
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*** Start buying it because you think wrong. The publisher had already read both the written novels -- not the essentially pre-first-draft versions on the Star Destroyer dot Net forums, but the cleaned-up, edited, nearly-ready-for-publication copy -- before signing on to publish them so they knew exactly what they were getting before they signed on the dotted line. Indeed, the controversial aspect was something they found appealing because nothing sells books like a good scandal. The fact is that plans to publish the Salvation War were a direct casualty of literary piracy. (And the unprintable epithet who stole and torrented them actually had the gall to write to Slade and tell him not only that he was the one who'd done so, but that he'd done it precisely to ensure they could never be published.)
*** In that case, we will never, ever see another web-published property get a dead-tree edition from a major publisher ever again. What conventional publisher would risk it, if any idiot with BitTorrent could queer the deal for them?

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*** **** Start buying it because you think wrong. The publisher had already read both the written novels -- not the essentially pre-first-draft versions on the Star Destroyer dot Net forums, but the cleaned-up, edited, nearly-ready-for-publication copy -- before signing on to publish them so they knew exactly what they were getting before they signed on the dotted line. Indeed, the controversial aspect was something they found appealing because nothing sells books like a good scandal. The fact is that plans to publish the Salvation War were a direct casualty of literary piracy. (And the unprintable epithet who stole and torrented them actually had the gall to write to Slade and tell him not only that he was the one who'd done so, but that he'd done it precisely to ensure they could never be published.)
*** ***** In that case, we will never, ever see another web-published property get a dead-tree edition from a major publisher ever again. What conventional publisher would risk it, if any idiot with BitTorrent could queer the deal for them?
4th Jun '16 8:37:46 PM chaotic-nipple
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**** In that case, we will never, ever see another web-published property get a dead-tree edition from a major publisher ever again. What conventional publisher would risk it, if any idiot with BitTorrent could queer the deal for them?
17th May '16 8:04:24 PM StevieC
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*** Which only proves pride really '''is''' the deadliest sin, after all.
9th Dec '15 2:06:22 PM FF32
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** McNamara died after the text was written and was judged by a very cursory "reading of their aura" not by detailed knowledge of their acts on earth. So Macnamara went to the ninth circle because he was judged as being a treacherous, evil betrayer rather than for the enormously long list of dreadful acts he committed on earth. Instead, the 9th circle of Hell 'waiting pits' mentioned are reserved for 'the network executives who cancelled Firefly'.

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** McNamara [=McNamara=] died after the text was written and was judged by a very cursory "reading of their aura" not by detailed knowledge of their acts on earth. So Macnamara went to the ninth circle because he was judged as being a treacherous, evil betrayer rather than for the enormously long list of dreadful acts he committed on earth. Instead, the 9th circle of Hell 'waiting pits' mentioned are reserved for 'the network executives who cancelled Firefly'.Series/{{Firefly}}'.
1st Dec '15 8:44:47 AM Berrenta
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*** 1939? I do not think the daemons would have stood a chance even then. I have TwoWords for you: chemical warfare. If nerve gas had not yet been invented, phosgene and mustard gas would nonetheless have remained every bit as nasty as they had been in 1918. You'd have to go back further for it to be a fair fight. Even in the Russo-Japanese War of 1907 they had artillery forward observation officers using radio and field telephones to communicate with artillery to coordinate indirect fire, and shells filled with TNT. In the large-scale battles in Iraq it was massed artillery fire that was the real killer (this is what we would expect from Twentieth Century warfare, where, in every major war, artillery inflicts 90%+ of casualties among the infantry) and that most definitely existed on Earth in 1907. European armies were making heavy use of the Maxim gun and other similar designs from Hotchkiss and Vickers--belt-fed heavy machine guns--in 1890, and massed HMGs would have doubtless inflicted a great many casualties on daemons. Before high explosives the state-of-the-art anti-personnel fragmentation artillery round was the UK's Armstrong shell, larger examples of which, despite being filled with black powder, were effective, if inefficient, even by 21st Century standards. Handling large-sized Harpy units without chemical warfare would have been difficult, though. Then again chemical warfare was very rapidly implemented once someone had the idea for it in 1915, and nothing that it required in 1915 would have been impossible in 1890. Indirect artillery fire could have been done using telegraph communication between observers and firing units, too, if someone had thought of it.

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*** 1939? I do not think the daemons would have stood a chance even then. I have TwoWords two words for you: chemical warfare. If nerve gas had not yet been invented, phosgene and mustard gas would nonetheless have remained every bit as nasty as they had been in 1918. You'd have to go back further for it to be a fair fight. Even in the Russo-Japanese War of 1907 they had artillery forward observation officers using radio and field telephones to communicate with artillery to coordinate indirect fire, and shells filled with TNT. In the large-scale battles in Iraq it was massed artillery fire that was the real killer (this is what we would expect from Twentieth Century warfare, where, in every major war, artillery inflicts 90%+ of casualties among the infantry) and that most definitely existed on Earth in 1907. European armies were making heavy use of the Maxim gun and other similar designs from Hotchkiss and Vickers--belt-fed heavy machine guns--in 1890, and massed HMGs would have doubtless inflicted a great many casualties on daemons. Before high explosives the state-of-the-art anti-personnel fragmentation artillery round was the UK's Armstrong shell, larger examples of which, despite being filled with black powder, were effective, if inefficient, even by 21st Century standards. Handling large-sized Harpy units without chemical warfare would have been difficult, though. Then again chemical warfare was very rapidly implemented once someone had the idea for it in 1915, and nothing that it required in 1915 would have been impossible in 1890. Indirect artillery fire could have been done using telegraph communication between observers and firing units, too, if someone had thought of it.
29th Nov '15 1:22:21 PM ham-peas
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If you're not going to '''READ THE STORY''' (your loss, it's quite good) then at least [[http://www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4555 READ THE FAQ]]. If you ask a question here that's long since been answered there, don't be surprised if you come back later to find a response that's somewhat snippy in tone, or no response at all.

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If you're not going to '''READ THE STORY''' (your loss, it's quite good) then at least [[http://www.'''[[http://www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4555 READ THE FAQ]].FAQ]]'''. If you ask a question here that's long since been answered there, don't be surprised if you come back later to find a response that's somewhat snippy in tone, or no response at all.
29th Nov '15 1:22:11 PM ham-peas
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If you're not going to '''READ THE STORY''' (your loss, it's quite good) then at least '''[[www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4555 READ THE FAQ]]'''. If you ask a question here that's long since been answered there, don't be surprised if you come back later to find a response that's somewhat snippy in tone, or no response at all.

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If you're not going to '''READ THE STORY''' (your loss, it's quite good) then at least '''[[www.[[http://www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4555 READ THE FAQ]]'''.FAQ]]. If you ask a question here that's long since been answered there, don't be surprised if you come back later to find a response that's somewhat snippy in tone, or no response at all.
29th Nov '15 1:21:42 PM ham-peas
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Before you post something here, it is best that you actually '''READ THE STORY'''. This is a JustBugsMe page, not a place for you to Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike.

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Before you post something here, it is best that you actually '''READ THE STORY'''. This is a JustBugsMe page, not a place for Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike.

If you're not going to '''READ THE STORY''' (your loss, it's quite good) then at least '''[[www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4555 READ THE FAQ]]'''. If
you ask a question here that's long since been answered there, don't be surprised if you come back later to Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike.find a response that's somewhat snippy in tone, or no response at all.
29th Nov '15 1:14:33 PM ham-peas
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** According to Isaiah, "the angel of the Lord", but he refuses to be drawn on exactly which one that was. Perhaps he didn't know; perhaps Appoloin was in error regarding the details of Uriel's last action on Earth.



** No. The attempts to rationalize succubus telepathy via quantum mechanics are an example of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, and the MST3KMantra applies. It is very likely that, in a published version, the whole rationale would've been edited out and {{HandWave}}d over, as was done with (for example) angels and demons having the ability to fly, even on Earth, despite the manifest physical impossibility of any such thing.



** It has a glowing diffuse light source powered by the contraction of the universe of which it is a part and that light source waxes and wanes on a set schedule just like a variable star

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** It has a glowing diffuse light source powered by the contraction of the universe of which it is a part part, and that light source waxes and wanes on a set schedule just like periodically in similar fashion to a variable star
star.




* Not sure if someone will read this or even respond to it, but what are the sizes of the big players of the novels -Yahweh, Michael, Uriel, Satan... (at most I can imagine that Dumah, in order to ride the Scarlet Beast (height of 200') as if it was a horse, must have a height on the order of 100')-?. How look them (ie: does Uriel have black wings and black hair?)?.

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\n* Not sure if someone will read this or even respond to it, but what are the sizes of the big players of the novels -Yahweh, Michael, Uriel, Satan... (at most I can imagine that Dumah, in order to ride the Scarlet Beast (height of 200') as if ** If you sent a rocket up, it was a horse, must have a height would come down somewhere. Where, precisely, would depend largely on the order specific impulse of 100')-?. its motor(s) and the azimuth and elevation of its launch. If you dug down far enough, you'd surface somewhere else in Hell. Where, precisely, would depend on details of its topology which haven't been described in the text. How look them (ie: does Uriel have black wings gravity works in Heaven, Hell, and black hair?)?.other such universes hasn't been described, either.



Go back to ''Literature/TheSalvationWar''. Don't forget to bring MoreDakka. And '''[[MemeticMutation READ THE STORY]]'''.

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Go back to ''Literature/TheSalvationWar''. Don't forget to bring MoreDakka. And '''[[MemeticMutation READ THE STORY]]'''.STORY]]''' -- your questions are almost certainly answered there.
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