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23rd Apr '17 1:03:52 PM Temporary14
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** The second movie takes place at least thirteen years after the end of the first one, and we see Ariel using a comb to brush Melody's hair in an earlier scene. Clearly, Ariel figured things out, told Scuttle what the real name and purpose of a "dinglehopper" was, and he spread the word far and wide to every creature in the seven seas!

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** The second movie takes place at least thirteen years after the end of the first one, and we see Ariel using a comb to brush to straighten Melody's hair in an earlier scene. Clearly, Ariel figured things out, told Scuttle what the real name and purpose of a "dinglehopper" was, and he spread the word far and wide to every creature in the seven seas!
23rd Apr '17 12:58:46 PM Temporary14
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** Option 1: Ariel remains vegetarian, but doesn't judge other humans for eating meat, as long as it isn't someone she knows. Option 2: Ariel mistakenly thinks that humans have to eat meat to survive as a human, and does it out of necessity. Option 3: There are non-sapient sea creatures and Ariel doesn't see anything wrong with eating those in particular, so the only change is that Eric and his men release any fish they catch who ask not to be eaten. Option 4: Ariel's gleefully becomes a meat-eater as part of her enthusiasm for human culture.

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** Option 1: Ariel remains vegetarian, but doesn't judge other humans for eating meat, as long as it isn't someone she knows. Option 2: Ariel mistakenly thinks that humans have to eat meat to survive as a human, and does it out of necessity. Option 3: There are non-sapient sea creatures and Ariel doesn't see anything wrong with eating those in particular, so the only change is that Eric and his men release any fish they catch who ask not to be eaten. Option 4: Ariel's Ariel gleefully becomes a meat-eater as part of her enthusiasm for human culture.
23rd Apr '17 12:49:33 PM Temporary14
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** Triton does resolve a lot of conflicts in the TV series with the trident, it's just that he's often absent, deliberately staying out of a conflict, causing trouble for Ariel with his restrictive parenting rather than helping, or has lost the trident to one thief or another. There's also the point that using the trident's full power seems to be a DangerousForbiddenTechnique. Not that when Ursula used its full power, she fried herself with her own lightning when Eric's ship-ramming made her lose concentration. Triton probably views it as a nuclear option to only be invoked in emergencies, lest he destroy the whole city or something.

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** Triton does resolve a lot of conflicts in the TV series with the trident, it's just that he's often absent, deliberately staying out of a conflict, causing trouble for Ariel with his restrictive parenting rather than helping, or has lost the trident to one thief or another. There's also the point that using the trident's full power seems to be a DangerousForbiddenTechnique. Not Note that when Ursula used its full power, she fried herself with her own lightning when Eric's ship-ramming made her lose concentration. Triton probably views it as a nuclear option to only be invoked in emergencies, lest he destroy the whole city or something.
23rd Apr '17 12:44:04 PM Temporary14
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** A deleted scene shows Ursula tricking and transforming a merman who unwittingly accepted an ImpossibleTask from her: she sent him to find a plant that was out of season. Besides, the contracts she draws up have no protection against her interfering with the task directly, so it's safe to assume that Ursula doesn't care one bit about making things fair as long as she gets what she wants.
20th Apr '17 3:21:42 PM Temporary14
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** The second movie takes place at least thirteen years after the end of the first one, and we see Ariel using a comb to brush Melody's hair in an earlier scene. Clearly, Ariel figured things out, told Scuttle what the real name and purpose of a "dinglehopper" was, and he spread the word far and wide to every creature in the seven seas!
20th Apr '17 3:18:54 PM Temporary14
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** All the other magic in the movies relies on some sort of physical object, whether potions like Ursula uses to transform Ariel, or physical talismans like the trident. Scuttle recognized Ursula's reflection as "the sea-witch!" and the necklace is the only thing that she wears in both forms. He put two and two together.
20th Apr '17 3:16:09 PM Temporary14
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** Who says she needs explanation at all? There's a scene in the TV series where she watches a mammal give birth and clearly understands what she's seeing, mermaids and mermen have navels that suggest live birth, and real-world dolphins reproduce in the same manner as humans. Probably the only surprise would be that human men keep their genitals on the outside.
20th Apr '17 3:09:58 PM Temporary14
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** Option 1: Ariel remains vegetarian, but doesn't judge other humans for eating meat, as long as it isn't someone she knows. Option 2: Ariel mistakenly thinks that humans have to eat meat to survive as a human, and does it out of necessity. Option 3: There are non-sapient sea creatures and Ariel doesn't see anything wrong with eating those in particular, so the only change is that Eric and his men release any fish they catch who ask not to be eaten. Option 4: Ariel's gleefully becomes a meat-eater as part of her enthusiasm for human culture.
20th Apr '17 3:03:55 PM Temporary14
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** Ariel wanted to be a human even without Eric being part of the equation--that's what "Part of Your World" is all about, really. Also, Triton made it clear to her by destroying her things that he was going to keep interfering with her fascination with humans and with Eric in particular, so the only real way she could get out from under his thumb was by becoming human. Besides that, she wants to go all the way with Eric, not is probably well aware of TheMermaidProblem, especially since Triton pointedly reminded her of it by shouting "You're a mermaid, he's a human!" in her face. She probably would steal the trident and use it to transform herself if she knew about it, but she's the youngest and thus probably the last in line to the throne and would have received the least training in it, would be wary of blasting herself to bits if she did it wrong, and she seemed very surprised when Triton did finally use it to make her human. That the trident could switch species is probably the ''last'' thing that the human-hating Triton would reveal to the daughter who's so fascinated with humans.

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** Ariel wanted to be a human even without Eric being part of the equation--that's what "Part of Your World" is all about, really. Also, Triton made it clear to her by destroying her things that he was going to keep interfering with her fascination with humans and with Eric in particular, so the only real way she could get out from under his thumb was by becoming human. Besides that, she wants to go all the way with Eric, not and is probably well aware of TheMermaidProblem, especially since Triton pointedly reminded her of it by shouting "You're a mermaid, he's a human!" in her face. She probably would steal the trident and use it to transform herself if she knew about it, but she's the youngest and thus probably the last in line to the throne and would have received the least training in it, would be wary of blasting herself to bits if she did it wrong, and she seemed very surprised when Triton did finally use it to make her human. That the trident could switch species is probably the ''last'' thing that the human-hating Triton would reveal to the daughter who's so fascinated with humans.
20th Apr '17 3:02:54 PM Temporary14
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** Ariel wanted to be a human even without Eric being part of the equation--that's what "Part of Your World" is all about, really. Also, Triton made it clear to her by destroying her things that he was going to keep interfering with her fascination with humans and with Eric in particular, so the only real way she could get out from under his thumb was by becoming human. Besides that, she wants to go all the way with Eric, not is probably well aware of TheMermaidProblem, especially since Triton pointedly reminded her of it by shouting "You're a mermaid, he's a human!" in her face. She probably would steal the trident and use it to transform herself if she knew about it, but she's the youngest and thus probably the last in line to the throne and would have received the least training in it, would be wary of blasting herself to bits if she did it wrong, and she seemed very surprised when Triton did finally use it to make her human. That the trident could switch species is probably the ''last'' thing that the human-hating Triton would reveal to the daughter who's so fascinated with humans.
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