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20th Jul '16 5:57:07 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* In the second movie, the penguin's first line upon seeing the trident he's helping Melody to steal is "A ''fork?'' We're risking our tails...for ''a fork?''" Even if we accept that Scuttle was just a bit scatterbrained, how would a penguin who seems to live far away from humans know what an eating utensil was?
19th Jul '16 2:32:14 PM JPO398
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** You're forgetting that Triton is a merman who lives at the bottom of the sea, while Ariel is up on land without her ability to breathe underwater. Even if, by some chance, Sebastian and/or Flounder head back to Triton, there's little chance he would be able to help.
14th Jul '16 2:31:29 PM NOYB
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** He said "you can't speak?" and she shook her head which he took to assume she couldn't talk ''at all''. From the time period it's set in, I don't think Eric would know about laryngitis or illnesses that would render someone mute. And if he did, isn't this only one or two days after the storm? He'd hardly be delusional enough to believe his mysterious girl with a perfect singing voice somehow developed a disease that rendered her mute within a couple of days.

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** He said "you can't speak?" and she shook her head head, which he took to assume she couldn't talk ''at all''. From the time period it's set in, I don't think Eric would know about laryngitis or illnesses that would render someone mute. And if he did, isn't this only one or two days after the storm? He'd hardly be delusional enough to believe his mysterious girl with a perfect singing voice somehow developed a disease that rendered her mute within a couple of days.



** Eric spent the entire movie being prone at jumping to conclusions: it's not an idle though thinking that the same guy believing (despite everyone telling him how impossible that was) that a beautiful girl with a perfect singing voice came to his rescue professing her love to him decided that Ariel's gestures implied a permanent loss of voice and consider her a mute instead of her saviour with laryngitis.

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** Eric spent the entire movie being prone at jumping to conclusions: it's not an idle though thinking that the same guy believing (despite everyone telling him how impossible that was) that a beautiful girl with a perfect singing voice came to his rescue professing her love to him decided that Ariel's gestures implied a permanent loss of voice and consider her a mute instead of her his saviour with laryngitis.
7th Jun '16 11:27:24 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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*** Given that we only see one walrus amongst dozens of penguins, I'm more willing to believe that Morgana's lair ''is'' in Anarctica. If Eric's kingdom were in Denmark, though, then it could just be that it took longer for Melody to cross between them than you're suggesting - it ''was'' long enough to her to fall asleep during the trip, after all, and it would explain why she needed a map to get to Atlantica.
6th Jun '16 10:00:15 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* It's the morning of her third day on land when Ariel sees Eric announcing his proposal to Vanessa, but the wedding boat doesn't depart until sunset. What did she spend her whole day doing? Just moping? She didn't try to do what most teenage girls would think to do and go and see her father for help?
6th Jun '16 9:56:34 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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*** Also, Ursula rigged and sabotaged the deal in her favor twice during the three days, to make it almost impossible for Ariel to fulfill her end of the bargain, and she did it for the purpose of ''conquering the entire ocean''. That's hardly just a girl not liking a contract she signed and getting her boyfriend to murder the one who proposed it to her.
29th May '16 3:51:03 PM Daedalis
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*** It's possible Triton and the underwater citizens see fish-on-fish violence as an acceptable part of the life cycle. In contrast, humans eating fish are outsiders intruding on undersea culture and taking resources that bigger fish need to live. So the same action is viewed as good or bad based on who's doing it.
29th May '16 12:08:52 PM Daedalis
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* In "Under the Sea", they say "The seaweed is always greener/in somebody else's lake". How could they know what a lake is? Lakes
are freshwater and all the singing creatures live in salt water, they couldn't even know about lakes.

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* In "Under the Sea", they say "The seaweed is always greener/in somebody else's lake". How could they know what a lake is? Lakes
Lakes are freshwater and all the singing creatures live in salt water, they couldn't even know about lakes.



** TranslationConvention. Mer-language has a word for "discrete three-dimensional underwater region bounded by natural features" that translates best to English as "lake".



*** Actually they shouldn´t... fish eat each other all the time. Everything seems to indicate the shark doesn´t speak, and probably isn´t considered a "friend" by the rest of the sea folks, but still, many animals including seagulls and crabs (both friends to Ariel) eat fish. To merfolks, this should be seen as normal and a natural fact of life, although I agree that dinner time would probably be very akward...

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*** Actually they shouldn´t...shouldn't... fish eat each other all the time. Everything seems to indicate the shark doesn´t doesn't speak, and probably isn´t isn't considered a "friend" by the rest of the sea folks, but still, many animals including seagulls and crabs (both friends to Ariel) eat fish. To merfolks, this should be seen as normal and a natural fact of life, although I agree that dinner time would probably be very akward...



*** Could be that fisheating is condoned within underwater society, but taboo when done by outsiders. Many groups allow offensive behavior between members (insults, arguments, fights), but get very hostile toward outsiders doing the same thing. At least if a fish eats a fish, it's staying within the underwater society.




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*** She's specifically invoking the Winds of the Caspian Sea, like summoning a god or demon by name. Could be common cause; the winds may be self-aware with their own name that they have communicated to both humans and magic-users like Ursula.
19th May '16 1:57:33 PM JPO398
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** It's moreso she doesn't know when or how she'll become human, but she knows she's going to figure things out after the song (hence the "right now"). Of course, it didn't go as smoothly as she intended...
6th May '16 3:36:16 AM DrDougsh
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* In "Part of Your World", Ariel sings "I don't know when, I don't know how, but I know something's starting right now". Doesn't the "right now" part imply that she does, in fact, know when?
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