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* ''A Link to the Past'' shows that the Triforce is capable of resurrection, so why don't Twinrova try to assemble it to resurrect Ganon? My only guess is that they're GenreSavvy enough to know that trying to assemble the Triforce usually ends badly.
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* Ralph, from Oracle of Ages, is listed on the Video Games page as TheScrappy in legend of Zelda. This is a case of YMMV, but how is Ralph annoying? He only shows up a couple of times in the game, and when he does, he only says a few lines before running off.
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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime before Veran showed up and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".
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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime before Veran showed up and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".
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** Except stuff like the petrified kid and the Maku Tree getting RetGone happens instantly, so SanDimasTime isn't in effect for everything... I'm willing to accept that the Black Tower exists outside of time [[AWizardDidIt because magic or something]], but in that case the other changes to the timeline should be staggered as well. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot That actually could have been interesting]], if things start fine but the present progressively becomes more and more of a BadFuture, thus raising the stakes and heightening tension as you get closer to the climax...
** Except stuff like the petrified kid and the Maku Tree getting RetGone happens instantly, so SanDimasTime isn't in effect for everything... I'm willing to accept that the Black Tower exists outside of time [[AWizardDidIt because magic or something]], but in that case the other changes to the timeline should be staggered as well. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot That actually could have been interesting]], if things start fine but the present progressively becomes more and more of a BadFuture, thus raising the stakes and heightening tension as you get closer to the climax...
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* Two: Why can't she just re-possess Nayru after Link breaks the possession?
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* After the ClimaxBoss against Veran-possessed Nayru in ''Ages'', Veran jumps hosts to Ambi, and Nayru rescues the heroes by teleporting them into the future. Why didn't she bring Ambi with them? Bringing Veran into the future would end her evil plot then and there, and she would then be free for another smackdown without the guards to protect her. The fact that Ralph and Link are so close to her when she casts the spell implies she has to be right next to people to travel with them, but she still couldn't have, I don't know, run up to Ambi?
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* The time portals are inactive without the Harp of Ages. Ralph does not have the Harp. How does he manage to follow Link through time?
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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime before Veran showed up and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".
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** There are two ways you could look at this; The first one is that both the Temple of Seasons and the Cap'n ship have portals below the ground that they've teleported through. In Cap'n case, his ship got stuck halfway through. The second idea is that if the worlds are indeed opposing sides, then the Temple of Seasons didn't land in Subrosia but rather rose from the ground.
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*** Or Link ''did'' meet and kill them, but after Link was then killed, Ganondorf revived them sometime before he finally was sealed. Probably because he thought they might be useful at some point. Which they were, sorta.
*** The Hero of Time is implied to have lost during the final battle of OOT in the Decline Timeline, so Kotake and Koume would be already dead. Then again, it's not like resurrection is impossible in the ''Zelda'' series, and it seems to be within Ganondorf's ability to do this sort of thing when he has the Triforce of Power (Volvagia in OOT is an old dead dragon he revived). There's also the possibility that, since the series in general and the ''Oracle'' games specially are very fond of the LegacyCharacter trope, this is simply a different incarnation of the witches, who Ganon took under his wing later.
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* Why is the "Present" in ''Ages'' not a BadFuture? The Black Tower should have been completed in the past, giving Veran everything she needs to create her "Age of Shadow".
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*** The Hero of Time is implied to have lost during the final battle of OOT in the Decline Timeline, so Kotake and Koume would be already dead. Then again, it's not like resurrection is impossible in the ''Zelda'' series, and it seems to be within Ganondorf's ability to do this sort of thing when he has the Triforce of Power (Volvagia in OOT is an old dead dragon he revived). There's also the possibility that, since the series in general and the ''Oracle'' games specially are very fond of the LegacyCharacter trope, this is simply a different incarnation of the witches, who Ganon took under his wing later.
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* How Subrosia and Holodrum interact. On the one hand, the Temple of Seasons simply sinks into the ground and lands in Subrosia, implying it's simply a subterranean area underneath Holodrum. On the other hand, Cap'n ship has it's prow sticking out of the sand in the Holodrum desert and its aft sticking out of Subrosian ground, implying they're on opposing sides of a (rather thin) flat world...
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* Ambi is still lovesick over someone who [[TearJerker is revealed to be dead if you link from Ages to seasons]]... so where did Ralph come from? Ralph is her descendant after all.
** Maybe at some point Ambi married for political reasons, or she ''did'' get over her old lover.
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* Ralph, from Oracle of Ages, is listed on the Video Games page as TheScrappy in legend of Zelda. This is a case of YMMV, but how is Ralph annoying? He only shows up a couple of times in the game, and when he does, he only says a few lines before running off.
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** Ambi explicitly states that she had Nayru send her into the future the first time she appears.
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*** The Lost Woods have always had strange teleporting abilities.
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* Hyrule Historia marks these games as a sequel to A Link to the Past. Implication suggests that the Lv. 2 sword (Noble Sword) and Lv. 3 sword (Master Sword) are one and the same, in different stages of power. It is also heavily implied of both that this is the very same Master Sword seen in many other Zelda games. So... how did it get from Hyrule to Holodrum/Labrynna?
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* Hyrule Historia marks these games as a sequel to A Link to the Past. Implication Past, and for the most part the games themselves suggest the same thing. However, implication suggests that the Lv. 2 sword (Noble Sword) and Lv. 3 sword (Master Sword) are one and the same, in different stages of power. It is also heavily implied of both that this is the very same Master Sword seen in many other Zelda games. So... how did it get from Hyrule to Holodrum/Labrynna?
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**of special note, it's found sitting in a pedestal in Holodrum, in a place called the Lost Woods. Geographically speaking, if it was the same place as in Alttp, then Link would have been in Holodrum all along.
**Alternatively, it is a broken sword given to you in the distant past in Labrynna. The previous owner states that it was given to them by "the legendary hero". If The Hero of Time broke the Master Sword and gave it to someone, how does Link find it in A Link to the Past?
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*** Or Link ''did'' meet and kill them, but after Link was then killed, Ganondorf revived them sometime before he finally was sealed. Probably because he thought they might be useful at some point. Which they were, sorta.
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** Seeing as the Oracle games take place in the [[TheHeroDies Decline timeline]], their deaths simply might not have happened that time around. After all, the sages that sealed away Ganon in OOT seem to be different ones than the ones in ALTTP (it's hard to believe the former all having Hylian descendants) - Link may have never even ''met'' them in this timeline.
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** Seeing as the Oracle games take place in the [[TheHeroDies Decline timeline]], their deaths simply might not have happened that time around. After all, the sages that sealed away Ganon in OOT seem to be different ones than the ones in ALTTP (it's hard to believe the former all having Hylian descendants) - Link may have never even ''met'' them Koume and Kotake in this timeline.
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** Seeing as the Oracle games take place in the [[TheHeroDies Decline timeline]], their deaths simply might not have happened that time around. After all, the sages that sealed away Ganon in OOT seem to be different ones than the ones in ALTTP (it's hard to believe the former all having Hylian descendants) - Link may have never even ''met'' them in this timeline.
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** Well, they did seem to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence in Ocarina, so... Maybe they're not really "dead" and the [[AWizardDidIt goddesses]] let them [[JerkassGods just come back]] for some reason.
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** Actually it was suppose to be Naryu's game with color, it was called Oracle of Light and would deal with the 6 pieces of the rainbow of color in crystals....you also traveled between a Light World and a Dark World...
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** That and all the bosses are the same! I understand OoS was originally going to be a remake of the original game, but those plans didn't get very far.
** Yeah, that's the case. OoS was supposed to be the first game and an unmade third game (left alone because of problems with the password system) was supposed to be the second game.
** Yeah, that's the case. OoS was supposed to be the first game and an unmade third game (left alone because of problems with the password system) was supposed to be the second game.
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** That and all the bosses are the same! I understand OoS [=OoS=] was originally going to be a remake of the original game, but those plans didn't get very far.
** Yeah, that's the case.OoS [=OoS=] was supposed to be the first game and an unmade third game (left alone because of problems with the password system) was supposed to be the second game.
** Yeah, that's the case.
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**I didn't think about it before, but now I wish they did that :(
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* So if there was a third game; do you think maybe Farore would have been a painter, and the villain would kidnap her, the Oracle of Secrets, and then transform the world into [[RealIsBrown Morrowind or a modern-day FPS game]] while Link had to gather the essences of colour (ROYGBIV plus something like pink maybe) to restore the world back to its natural and colourful state?
